Hi,
There was a discussion at my model railway club last night about
signals and how to reproduce the 'bounce'. Co-incidentally in the
current issue of MRJ there is a letter on this topic from Allan
Sibley.
Question:- Is there a simple way in which I can extract all the
messages on this topic from the group and produce a document for my
club.
The only way I can think of at the moment is to download each message
and then do a cut and paste. I am looking for a quicker method.
Best wishes
Frank Metcalf
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:00:48 -0000, frank_metcalf wrote:
> Question:- Is there a simple way in which I can extract all the
> messages on this topic from the group and produce a document for my
> club.
>
> The only way I can think of at the moment is to download each message
> and then do a cut and paste. I am looking for a quicker method.
Do you know perl? or python?
Bill Bedford
"Nothing is as important as model railways and even that isn't very
important"
-some wiseguy somewhere
Steven
If I remember correctly the buffers you require are the square (actually
rectangular)shank variety with either round or oval heads.
I can supply lost wax brass castings of either style head with matching bodies.
These are not suitable for internal springing but there are a number of methods
whereby a sprung effect can be achieved behind the headstock.
I should add that the bodies are cast with the rectangular hole all the way
through and that with a little judicious application of a file to the
rectangular shank behind the head a sliding fit can be achieved quite easily.
A set of 4 buffers (heads plus bodies) of either kind costs 8.50 GBP post free
in UK.
regards
Peter Dobson
Newbold Models
Hi Martin
Apologies to everyone for keeping an "off topic" thread going too long, but when
you say my mail service provider has been soft bouncing emails from YahooGroups,
why does my email bounce history log only 17 soft bounces in the problem period
(mid to late october - and none before that since June) yet nearly 200 emails
from different Groups were affected? Just trying to get my head around that
one...
Incidentally, this morning everything came up to speed - the last few days mails
(40+)in one big lump. Hurrah - I think!
Snowed under in emails
Ade
Martin Wynne <martin@...> wrote:
Hi Ade,
> For the past couple of weeks these have been
> arriving in my inbox two to three days late
Your mail service provider has been soft bouncing emails
from YahooGroups. YahooGroups is very unforgiving about
this, and unlike most mail systems, sometimes waits several
days before re-trying. Most people then blame YahooGroups,
whereas the real culprit is your own ISP. It is just that
YahooGroups is very intolerant of their failings, so it appears
that YahooGroups messages are the only ones affected.
What is slightly hilarious in this case is that your mail service
provider is Yahoo themselves! Here is the latest reason
given for a groups email to you being delayed:
"Mail server for "yahoo.co.uk" unreachable for too long"
You can see your own bounce history by going to
http://groups.yahoo.com/myprefs
regards,
Martin.
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:02:02 -0000, Frank Metcalf wrote:
>> Bill Bedford asked :-
>> Do you know perl? or python?
>>
They would make your task a lot easier
Bill Bedford
"Nothing is as important as model railways and even that isn't very
important"
-some wiseguy somewhere
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:09:51 +0000 (GMT), A Marks wrote:
> Hi Martin
>
> Apologies to everyone for keeping an "off topic" thread going too
> long, but when you say my mail service provider has been soft
> bouncing emails from YahooGroups, why does my email bounce history
> log only 17 soft bounces in the problem period (mid to late october -
> and none before that since June) yet nearly 200 emails from different
> Groups were affected? Just trying to get my head around that one...
If you mean there has been 200 mailings that you can see on the groups
website but have not received in your mailbox then it means that the
MTA at yahoo.co.uk has received them, but has not passed them on to
your POP3 account. It could mean they have been lost or it could mean
that they are being stored ready for onward transmission once problems
with the network have been sorted.
Bill Bedford
"Nothing is as important as model railways and even that isn't very
important"
-some wiseguy somewhere
Hi Ade,
> Why does my email bounce history log only 17 soft
> bounces in the problem period (mid to late october -
> and none before that since June) yet nearly 200 emails
> from different Groups were affected?
Once YahooGroups have decided that your address is
bouncing, they stop sending emails. They then try again
after a few days, and restore emails if successful.
When this happens, there will be a note for you on the
MyGroups web page. You can then follow the procedure
to manually restore your emails immediately.
If your account is "hard" bouncing (i.e. positively rejected
by your ISP), only a manual reset is available.
Having said that, I'm not convinced that the bounce history
which Yahoo shows is always an entirely accurate log of
events. More about bouncing in YahooGroups at:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/uk/groups/mygroups/mygroups-07.html
regards,
Martin.
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Hi Frank,
> Question:- Is there a simple way in which I can extract
> all the messages on this topic from the group and
> produce a document for my club.
Bouncing emails and now bouncing signals! :-)
I think this thread started at groups message 5327. If you use
a URL like this you can get the text of the following 100 group
emails all on a single page (they may take a few seconds to
download):
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/7_mm_modelling/messages/5327?viscount=100&expan\
d=1
You can then do Select All on the web page and copy and
paste the entire text into your word processor or wherever.
It's then fairly easy to delete out all the Yahoo rubbish and
other topics to leave only the message texts which you want.
If 100 emails isn't enough, simply click the Next link to get
the next 100 and repeat the process.
If 100 at once is too many to handle, change the viscount=
(i.e. "visibility count") to a lower figure. (100 is the maximum.)
For threads on other topics, change the 5327 to the appropriate
starting number. You can try adding &threaded=1 to the URL,
but the thread indexing can be confusing and can miss some
relevant details mentioned under other threads. I have found
the normal date order to be the easiest to edit.
regards,
Martin.
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Hi Martin
> I think this thread started at groups message 5327. If you use
> a URL like this you can get the text of the following 100 group
> emails all on a single page (they may take a few seconds to
> download):
>
>
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/7_mm_modelling/messages/5327?viscount=100&expan\
d=1
>
> You can then do Select All on the web page and copy and
> paste the entire text into your word processor or wherever.
>
This worked a treat.
Many thanks
Frank Metcalf
Hi all
I happened to notice a a small advert in the latest MRJ from Portsdown
models who produce jigs for crossings and planing jigs for 4mm pointwork. At
the bottom of the advert, in very small writing, was a line saying
'Interested in jigs for 7mm, please let me know'.
If this sounds your sort of thing, you might like to do that by email to
dave@....
I have no connection to them whatsoever, just thought someone else might
find it useful and if you don't take MRJ, or scour the ads closely, you
wouldn't have known about it.
Regards to all
Roy Wood
Hi all
Last time I posted a message on behalf of a friend it generated all that
interesting stuff on signal bounce. Don't blame me for anything this time -
but does anyone know of a kit for a BR bulk grain wagon? I have no idea what
the wagons are properly called. There's a picture of a 4mm one in the latest
MRJ.
Thanks
Roy Wood
Hi all
Last time I posted a message on behalf of a friend it generated all that
interesting stuff on signal bounce. Don't blame me for anything this time -
but does anyone know of a kit for a BR bulk grain wagon? I have no idea what
the wagons are properly called. There's a picture of a 4mm one in the latest
MRJ.
Thanks
Roy Wood
Hi, Jim Harris does one under the Burton Models name.
Its about £50, and i think Tower Models have some .
Mike
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Hi all
Last time I posted a message on behalf of a friend it
generated all that
interesting stuff on signal bounce. Don't blame me for
anything this time -
but does anyone know of a kit for a BR bulk grain
wagon? I have no idea what
the wagons are properly called. There's a picture of a
4mm one in the latest
MRJ.
Thanks
Roy Wood
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I think I have seen one from Acorn Models.
Bob
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From: The Woods [mailto:lodgecot@...]
Sent: 02 November 2003 09:13
To: 7_mm_modelling@...
Subject: [7_mm_modelling] 7mm grain wagons
Hi all
Last time I posted a message on behalf of a friend it generated all that
interesting stuff on signal bounce. Don't blame me for anything this time -
but does anyone know of a kit for a BR bulk grain wagon? I have no idea what
the wagons are properly called. There's a picture of a 4mm one in the latest
MRJ.
Thanks
Roy Wood
Dear All
I recall an article and drawings (in 7mm scale) relating to the Wickhams
Gangers car / trolley - unfortunately I cannot find it !!
From one source I suspect it may have been in RM Nov '69 - although
memory also suggest MRC.
Can anyone advise which one ? Does anyone have a copy spare ?
Best wishes to all
Dave T
Dear Dave, pages 336/7 November 1969 Railway Modeller.
If you want copies please advise, will do them in the
morning. I will of course need your "Postman Pat"
address, I can't scan them, don't know how to use my
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Hi
has anybody built the Zero Zephyr 1366 P/T? I have just started one and wondered
if anybody had any problems.
cheers lee
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 15:54:01 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi
>has anybody built the Zero Zephyr 1366 P/T? I have just started one and
wondered if anybody had any problems.
A good friend back home in the UK did a batch of three. He told me a
couple of years ago that some of the smaller etched parts were
duplicated instead of being mirror images of each other, I seem to
remember him mentioning the rods to open the sandboxes.
Of course, it's not unique to Zero Zephyr. A lot of kits make similar
mistakes.
I remember these because he made them with bells as used at Weymouth
Quay. He needed me to send him some HO lost wax castings (from the
USA) that were the right size because he couldn't find anything
suitable in the UK. I seem to remember they were from Precision Scale.
I was waiting for Eric to do the earlier saddle tanks - I wanted to
backdate one to the ex-Cornwall Mineral Railway condition, but he
never got around to doing that one before he sold the range to Adrian.
>cheers lee
I have the article and can scan and send.
There was kit of one type available from Nationalised Railways. I built one
and put a Black Beetle/Tenshodo Spud, can't remember which, motor unit under
it. The kit's motorising instructions are based on my notes.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: David Tomlinson [mailto:djt@...]
Sent: 02 November 2003 13:31
To: 7_mm_modelling@...; Gauge0@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [7_mm_modelling] Wickham Gangers car / trolley
Dear All
I recall an article and drawings (in 7mm scale) relating to the Wickhams
Gangers car / trolley - unfortunately I cannot find it !!
From one source I suspect it may have been in RM Nov '69 - although
memory also suggest MRC.
Can anyone advise which one ? Does anyone have a copy spare ?
Best wishes to all
Dave T
Hi all
If any group bidding is being don/considered remember that these are stud
contact three rail items and you need to factor in the cost of conversion unless
you use the same system.
I was in the MRC when Tug was proposing the new 7mm layout which was suggested
to be stud contact to accommodate his stock. I went on record to the committee
to challenge this at the time as a regressive step as all new 7mm types were 2
rail 32mm. The result was Happisburgh. I do feel that the Ebay offer should
state that they are "non preferred" as to current collection.
Regards
Martin Long
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College Models did one and I think this was acquired by Acme models. I
certainly have an unmade kit from College Models.
Paul Rowlinson
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>Subject: RE: [7_mm_modelling] 7mm grain wagons
>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:16:08 -0000
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I have an old El Crappo Class 15 which I think I can do something with.
Needs a lot of work though.
Paul Rowlinson
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>Subject: [7_mm_modelling] Nationalised Railways (from Model Express)
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Peter,
Thanks - I've tried emailing a request for your address off group -
your ISP sent back an undelivered notice. If you could send it me
I'll send an order in.
General,
I'm now looking for a reference book that I can use to detail the
Toplights from. Does anyone know a suitable book?
regards
Steve
P.S. I've never built a brass coach before - it's somehow almost
enjoyable .... but will it still be the case in three coaches time!!!!
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wrote:
> Steven
>
> If I remember correctly the buffers you require are the square
(actually
> rectangular)shank variety with either round or oval heads.
>
> I can supply lost wax brass castings of either style head with
matching bodies.
> regards
>
> Peter Dobson
> Newbold Models
Hi Martin,
How are things?. Have'nt seen your name on here
for ages. Lot of work to change from stud to 2 rail.
Involves fitting new wheels anyway. I know of only
one modeller still using coarse scale 2 rail. He
has a brilliant outdoor railway and has just made an
A4 and a rake of teak stock to go on it. Superb.
If you get the chance, can you ask Barrie Walls
where he put the motor on his B17?. I am assuming
he has got one!. Very difficult to put the drive on the
rear wheels without it intruding a bit into the cab.
I did wonder about putting the motor in the firebox
with a Stubbs gearbox on the leading axle driven
via a shaft. I know he has done that on occasion.
All the best
regards
Graham Powell
Highbridge
Somerset
Hi all
If any group bidding is being don/considered remember that these are stud
contact three rail items and you need to factor in the cost of conversion unless
you use the same system.
I was in the MRC when Tug was proposing the new 7mm layout which was
suggested to be stud contact to accommodate his stock. I went on record to the
committee to challenge this at the time as a regressive step as all new 7mm
types
were 2 rail 32mm. The result was Happisburgh. I do feel that the Ebay offer
should state that they are "non preferred" as to current collection.
Regards
Martin Long
Martin
I agree with you about the lack of reference to current collection method in
the eBay description, at least from the first time round. I haven't been able
to find this new composite offering, can you point me to it please?
However, there are many modellers, albeit a minority, still pursuing coarse
scale standards, and including a significant number below retirement age in the
UK. I know this is factual through my experience with the Exley businesses,
and still through the evergrowing Bassett-Lowke Society. We must be very
careful not to alienate this group of people with interests other than Finescale
or
ScaleSeven from this and other groups. Personally I support and follow the
work of all 3 'scales.'
Regards,
Quentin Lucas
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Martin,
I agree, and suggested to the seller that he make that disclosure. There
was no response, and no disclosure when the items were re-listed.
Scott Maze
-----Original Message-----
From: QuentinRQL@... [mailto:QuentinRQL@...]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:29 AM
To: 7_mm_modelling@...
Subject: [7_mm_modelling] Re:Tug Wilson Ian Cherry
Hi all
If any group bidding is being don/considered remember that these are stud
contact three rail items and you need to factor in the cost of conversion
unless
you use the same system.
I was in the MRC when Tug was proposing the new 7mm layout which was
suggested to be stud contact to accommodate his stock. I went on record to
the
committee to challenge this at the time as a regressive step as all new
7mm types
were 2 rail 32mm. The result was Happisburgh. I do feel that the Ebay
offer
should state that they are "non preferred" as to current collection.
Regards
Martin Long
Martin
I agree with you about the lack of reference to current collection method
in
the eBay description, at least from the first time round. I haven't been
able
to find this new composite offering, can you point me to it please?
However, there are many modellers, albeit a minority, still pursuing
coarse
scale standards, and including a significant number below retirement age
in the
UK. I know this is factual through my experience with the Exley
businesses,
and still through the evergrowing Bassett-Lowke Society. We must be very
careful not to alienate this group of people with interests other than
Finescale or
ScaleSeven from this and other groups. Personally I support and follow the
work of all 3 'scales.'
Regards,
Quentin Lucas
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Quentin,
My thoughts entirely.
Peter Bloomfield
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Subject: [7_mm_modelling] Re:Tug Wilson Ian Cherry
.....Personally I support and follow the work of all 3 'scales.' Regards,
Quentin Lucas
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Hi Graham
> If you get the chance, can you ask Barrie Walls
> where he put the motor on his B17?. I am assuming
> he has got one!. Very difficult to put the drive on the
> rear wheels without it intruding a bit into the cab.
Why not ask Brian Clapperton at ABC. He has all sorts of configurations of
gearboxes and may well be able to help.
Regards
Roy Wood
Hi Graham
Barrie has got 3 B17's and he made me a chassis for another. The motor is a
JH type with gearbox driving on the rear axle with the motor facing forward.
This leaves cab clear and the boiler without a cut out
Of course it runs superbly.
He is now up to 85 locomotives and he told me last week that he only
reckons to build another 12 or so!. These will be 2 Fowler 2-6-4 tanks, a
Peppercorn A2 (already started) a N1 tank with condensing gear, an N2 tank
with GNR style condensing gear, an 8F, a F3 2-4-2, 2 GCR Atlantics, a GCR
Immingham, the others still to be decided. He is unable to house all the
locos on the layout so there is a "museum store" where those not in use
rest!
Regards
Martin
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From: "Graham Powell" <Graham.G.P.Powell@...>
To: "7mm Modelling" <7_mm_modelling@...>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:09 PM
Subject: [7_mm_modelling] Attn Martin Long
> Hi Martin,
> How are things?. Have'nt seen your name on here
> for ages. Lot of work to change from stud to 2 rail.
> Involves fitting new wheels anyway. I know of only
> one modeller still using coarse scale 2 rail. He
> has a brilliant outdoor railway and has just made an
> A4 and a rake of teak stock to go on it. Superb.
> If you get the chance, can you ask Barrie Walls
> where he put the motor on his B17?. I am assuming
> he has got one!. Very difficult to put the drive on the
> rear wheels without it intruding a bit into the cab.
> I did wonder about putting the motor in the firebox
> with a Stubbs gearbox on the leading axle driven
> via a shaft. I know he has done that on occasion.
> All the best
> regards
> Graham Powell
> Highbridge
> Somerset
>
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