Bismillah,
Assalamualikum Brothers and Sisters,
I wanted to share some of the positions our Deobandi/Tablighi Brothers are sharing to their congregations and followers in Toronto , North America, England and Worldwide in
general. Their views are aligned to the larger network of Tablighi/Deobandi's throughout the world. I have spent many years with these brothers of Tabligh and Deoband while I was always aligned to Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah internally thru my upbringing in a Qadiri house (my mother's side) and studying works of our Sunni scholars like (Abdul Hakim Murad, Shakyh Nuh, Dr. Hadaad, Imam Ghazali, Suyuti, Abdul Qadir Jilani (Rahi), etc.). My Dad studied under the senior Khalifa of Molvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi who is better known as Masheullah Khan Sahib in India.
Our Dawah should be a message of love and tolerance but we should be well
educated to know the issues and the haqq on the matters concerned. Please take your time to go thru this short document I prepared out of my love for the sunni brothers of tariqa.
The website www.jucanada.org represents the views and opinions of the Deobandi scholars of GTA and Worldwide. See the links section and question and answers section. It is perfectly aligned with the South African Tablighi/Brothers 'Ask the Imam's website of Mufti Ibrahim Desai.
Last year on the eve of Rabiul Awal these brothers made an open attack against the Ahle Sunnah in Toronto that made me and many others upset because of the great confusion and dissension it created in the community. I felt how our Barelwi brothers in the Indo/Pak subcontinent have been feeling for the past 100 years.
I am providing links to their writing so it is first hand evidence and nothing from my own.
1. Mawlid of the Prophet (10 000 Pamphelts were distributed last year and posted on their website): http://www.jucanada.org/library/RabiulAwwal.htm Mufti Taqi a later comtemporary Deobandi Scholar has shifted Mawlid to a 'Pagan practice' in perfect alignment to his masters such as Rashid Ahmed Gangohi. Sidi Gibrael refuted Mufti Taqi very well alhamdollilah.
2. Is the Prophet Noor (a response to Shaykh Nuh's article on noor) from www.masud.co.uk the deobandi respnse is http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=14124
3. Is the prophet omnipresent http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=11762
4. Can you marry a person who believes that Rasullah is omnipresent ? http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=11419
5. Reading Salam before Azan http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=10950
6. To Kiss thumbs and apply to eyes upon hearing Rasullah (saws) name http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=10609
7. Attending Fatiha Ceremony http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=7991
8. Again on Omnipresence of Prophets http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=3100
9. Celebrating 'Eid Milad un Nabi' is an evil innovation http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2967
10. Ahmed Raza Khan and Barelvi's have positions contrary to Shariah http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=964
11. Is it persmissible to 'assalam alayka Ya Rasullah' http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2323
12. Standing up (tazeem during Milad) http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2323
13. Saying Ya Ali Madad, Ya Shaykh Abdul Qadir Madad http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=12722
14. Calling on Saints during Zikr Majlis http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=9491
15. Can you say Maula Ali ? http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=5524
16. Is Naat and Salam on the Prophet permissible? http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=5168
17. Erecting tombstones on graves http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=17212
Sidi Faraz is directly attacked by Deobandi's on building domes on Graves http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6786
18. Can we gather to recite Quran for the Deceaased http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=
19. They also have issues with Talqeen that the Sunni's perform in Janaza's. Sidi Zahir has first hand experience in The Islamic Foundation Masjid. You can discuss with him.
Besides these they are the leading opponents of Miraj un Nabi programs that take place on the night of 27th of Rajab and they don't agree with SHaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani's followers and Imam Ahmed Rajab al Hanbali's position on fasting on the 27th.
Of course our positions are based on the practices of the Sahaba and the hadith that they have ignored.
2. Celebrating or commeration of Aulia's like Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani's programs that take place in most Sunni Mosques they definately oppose.
3. The practices of Sufi orders like Istigatha, Madad, Hadara, etc they don't practice it and plus they oppose it. Although
they is discrepancy in their ranks on Hadara from my conversations with Shaykh Nuh's students. If you ask them they will say we have no problem but when it comes to practice they will oppose it. The hadith of the blind man which is a canon hadith of Tawassul is largely ignorned by their followers. This is why they oppose saying "Ya Muhammad" and declare Istigatha as a form of shirk.
4. Commeration of Ashura and the Martyrdom of Imam Hussain in Muharram: Jalaluddin Suyuti (rah) and the majority of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah hold lectures and programs (minus the Shia exaggeration) in Masjid's which they don't practice and discourage others to participate.
To summarize the differences a deobandi scholar of Binori town Maderessa in Karachi , Muhammad Yusuf Ludhianvi wrote a book called "Differences of the Ummah and the Straight Path" This is a recent work in English along a chain of hundreds of books from both sides over the last 80 years.
His table of contents and contentions are:
1. The Prophet is not Noor and he is Bashar - they oppose
2. Aalim ul Ghaib title of the Prophet - they don't agree with
3. Haazir and Naazir (Omnipresent) - they dont agree
4. Calling for assistance from Aulia -this they consider a form of shirk
5. Erection of walls and sheets on graves - they are against it and don't build anything for their scholars
6. Milad un Nabi - they would like this to disappear as it is a bida for them and leads to shirk.
7. Tawassul - They believe asking dua from Aulia and Prophet's in the present tense at their graves is a form of shirk. Although Fazail i Amaal has the hadith of the blind man in virtues of Hajj section on Ziyarat.
They are many more but these are from their own documents of recent and not the past.
The Tabligh movement is a key propogation wing for Deobandi ideology as the founder Maulana Ilyas said:
Quote 1: Malfoozat Moulana Ilyaas, p.50 , Hasan Ali Nadwi, - Moulana Ilyas said, “Hazrat Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi has done a great service (to the religion). It is my heart’s desire that the teachings should be his and the Manhaj (methodology) of Dawah (propagation) be mine, so that this way his teachings become
well-known.”
The Barelwi brothers I find thru study and experience are the true Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah we find throughout the Muslim World. In fact the Barelwi Ulema are the extension of the ulema of Al Azhar, Damascus and the original Hijaz/Iraq region. They are duplicates of one another. Deobandi's are quiet different in all matters and don't fit into the 'Sunni Culture of the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah' we see in places such as Iraq/Syria/Yemen/Africa/Central Asia, Indonesia/Malaysia, etc.
There is also a difference of opinion amongst Deobandi's with regards to Abdul Wahab of Najd . They claim that he came to 'rid' arabia of bida. I have first hand knowledge of this with my conversations with their ulema.
The great scholar Malik Al Alawi (rah) after studying this area for many years concluded that they (Deobandi's) are outside the pale of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah. The followers of Shaykh Ahmed Rida Khan Barelwi have survived the test of time and have proven their group to be the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah of India/Pak/Bangladesh. The followers of Molvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi and Deobandi's are getting closer and closer to the culture of Wahabi's in terms of celebrations/festivities/Takfir, etc.
Lastly, Shaykh Ahmed
Rida Khan wrote many letters directly to Rashid Ahmed Gangohi to clarify his positions along with 4 other Deobandi Ulema who made statements in stark contrast to the aqeedah of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah. After then consulting with 301 top Ulema of India/pak/Bangladesh he set out to Syria/Egypt and Hijaz to produce and review the book he would publish to put the Deobandi's straight.
HISAAM-UL-HARAMAIN (The famous refutation of the Deobandi's by SHaykh Ahmed Rida Khan (rah))
34 Ulama of Makka and Medina issued the kufr fatwa on the Ulema of Deoband in 1320AH(1900 AD) and are listed below. For a detailed explanation of the fatwa read TAMHEED-E-IMAAN and MUSTATAAB HISAAM-UL-HARAMAIN ALAA MANHER-UL-KUFR WAL MAIN . This same Fatwa was translated and reproduced in Shaykh Hisham al-Kabbani's Encyclopaedia of Islamic Doctrine (vol. 3).
These are the Ulema:
ULAMA OF MAKKAH SHAREEF
1. Ustaad-e-Haram - Mufti Muhammad Saeed Shafe
2 Sayedul Ulama - Moulana Mufti Sheikh Ahmed Abul Khair Mirdad
3 Mufti Hanafia - Allama Sheihk Saleh Kamaal
4. Mufti - Sheikh Ali bin Siddiq Kamaal
5. Sheikud Dalail - Mufti Muhammed Abdul Haq Al-Mujahir Al-Llabadi
6. Mufti Sayed Ismail Khaleel - Librarian ofMecca
7 Allama Mufti - Saeed Abul Hoosen Al-Marzuki
8 Mufti Sheikh Abid bin Husain Maaliki
9 Mufti Ali bin Husain Maaliki
10 Mufti Muhammed Jamaal bin Muhhamed Husain
11 Mufti Sheikh Asad bin Ahmed Daha -Teacher Haram Shareef Makkah
12 Mufti Sheikh Abdur Rahman Dahan
13 Mufti Sheikh Muhammed Yusuf Afghani
14 Mufti Sheikh Ahmed Al-Maaliki Al-Imdadi - Brother in Tariqat of Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Rashid Ahmed Gangohi and Khalil Ahmed Ambhetwi
15 Mufti Muhammed Yusuf Al-Khayaat
16 Sheikh Muhammed Saleh bin Muhammed Ba-fazal
17 Sheikh Abdul Karim Naji Dagistani
18 Sheikh Muhammed Saeed bin Muhhamed Al-Yamani
19. Mufti Sheikh Haamid Muhammed Al-Jadawi
ULAMA OFMEDINA SHAREEF
20 Mufti Hanafia - Tajuddin Liyas
21 Mufti of Madina - Allama Osman bin Abdus SalaamDad istani
22 Sheikh-e-Maalikia - Mufti Sayed Ahmed ofAlgeria
23 Mufti Khaleel bin Ibrahim Karbooti
24 Shaikhud Dalail - Mufti Sayed Muhammed Saeed
25 Mufti Sheikh Mehmood bin Ahmed Omari
26 Shaikhud Dalail - Mufti Sayed Abbas bin Sayed Jaleel
27 Mufti Skeikh Omar bin Hamdaan Al-Maharasee
28 Mufti Sayed Hakeem Muhammed bin Muhaamed Madani
29 Mufti Sheikh Muhammed Kiyan - teacher Haram Shareef Madina
30 Mufti Shafaeiya - Allama Sayed Shareef Ahmed Barzanji
31 Mufti Muhammed Aziz Maaliki - ofTunisia
32 Mufti Sheikh Abdul Qader Taufeeq - Teacher Masjid-e-Nabawi Shareef
These are the Ulema:
ULAMA OF MAKKAH SHAREEF
1. Ustaad-e-Haram - Mufti Muhammad Saeed Shafe
2 Sayedul Ulama - Moulana Mufti Sheikh Ahmed Abul Khair Mirdad
3 Mufti Hanafia - Allama Sheihk Saleh Kamaal
4. Mufti - Sheikh Ali bin Siddiq Kamaal
5. Sheikud Dalail - Mufti Muhammed Abdul Haq Al-Mujahir Al-Llabadi
6. Mufti Sayed Ismail Khaleel - Librarian of
7 Allama Mufti - Saeed Abul Hoosen Al-Marzuki
8 Mufti Sheikh Abid bin Husain Maaliki
9 Mufti Ali bin Husain Maaliki
10 Mufti Muhammed Jamaal bin Muhhamed Husain
11 Mufti Sheikh Asad bin Ahmed Daha -Teacher Haram Shareef Makkah
12 Mufti Sheikh Abdur Rahman Dahan
13 Mufti Sheikh Muhammed Yusuf Afghani
14 Mufti Sheikh Ahmed Al-Maaliki Al-Imdadi - Brother in Tariqat of Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Rashid Ahmed Gangohi and Khalil Ahmed Ambhetwi
15 Mufti Muhammed Yusuf Al-Khayaat
16 Sheikh Muhammed Saleh bin Muhammed Ba-fazal
17 Sheikh Abdul Karim Naji Dagistani
18 Sheikh Muhammed Saeed bin Muhhamed Al-Yamani
19. Mufti Sheikh Haamid Muhammed Al-Jadawi
ULAMA OF
20 Mufti Hanafia - Tajuddin Liyas
21 Mufti of Madina - Allama Osman bin Abdus Salaam
22 Sheikh-e-Maalikia - Mufti Sayed Ahmed of
23 Mufti Khaleel bin Ibrahim Karbooti
24 Shaikhud Dalail - Mufti Sayed Muhammed Saeed
25 Mufti Sheikh Mehmood bin Ahmed Omari
26 Shaikhud Dalail - Mufti Sayed Abbas bin Sayed Jaleel
27 Mufti Skeikh Omar bin Hamdaan Al-Maharasee
28 Mufti Sayed Hakeem Muhammed bin Muhaamed Madani
29 Mufti Sheikh Muhammed Kiyan - teacher Haram Shareef Madina
30 Mufti Shafaeiya - Allama Sayed Shareef Ahmed Barzanji
31 Mufti Muhammed Aziz Maaliki - of
32 Mufti Sheikh Abdul Qader Taufeeq - Teacher Masjid-e-Nabawi Shareef
Was Salam,
We should also realize that the Deobandi's went back into their works and republished their books making modifications to be relieved of the attacks they were facing. So when today people are told by Deobandi's that these are accusations many people read the books and conclude that in fact the Deobandi's are right.
Shaykh Ahmed Rida Khan and the star ulema of Ahle Sunnah wal jamaah made a full effort and continue to strive to correct the Deobandi's errors and keep the Sunni's united in belief and practice.
As mentioned above, other `Ulama' had written against the
Deobandis prior to Mawlana Shah Ahmad Ridâ Khan (r). In addition
to those mentioned earlier, there are:
* Hadrat `Abdus-Samî` Rampûrî (r) in his "Anwâr-e-Sâti`a"
* Sanadul-Muhaddithîn Hadrat Mawlânâ Irshâd Husayn Mujaddidî
Râmpûrî (r)
* Hâjî Imdâdullâh Muhâjir Makkî (r) in his "Faysala Haft Mas-ala"
* Mawlana Anwârullâh Haydarabâdî (r)
* Mawlana `Abdul-Qayyûm Badayûnî (r) and others.
Deobandis prior to Mawlana Shah Ahmad Ridâ Khan (r). In addition
to those mentioned earlier, there are:
* Hadrat `Abdus-Samî` Rampûrî (r) in his "Anwâr-e-Sâti`a"
* Sanadul-Muhaddithîn Hadrat Mawlânâ Irshâd Husayn Mujaddidî
Râmpûrî (r)
* Hâjî Imdâdullâh Muhâjir Makkî (r) in his "Faysala Haft Mas-ala"
* Mawlana Anwârullâh Haydarabâdî (r)
* Mawlana `Abdul-Qayyûm Badayûnî (r) and others.
It is in fact the Deobandi's who have to stop attacking and issuing statements to divide the Muslims.
Although the Deobandi's have published works to clarify the beliefs of the Deobandi's their efforts are
spoiled with the shameless language used against Shaykh Ahmad
Ridâ Khan Barelvi (rah), which is not fit for a scholar. Husayn Ahmad Tandwî (who
later changed his name to Madanî), the HEAD mudarris of the Darul-
`Ulum in Deoband writes in this "Shihâbuth-thâqib":
a) "Mujaddid Bareylwi, whose lies became famous - la`natullâhi
ta`âlâ fid-dârîn âmîn - ALLÂH CURSE HIM (MUJADDID BAREYLWI) IN
THIS WORLD AND IN THE NEXT."
(Shihâbuth-thâqib, p. 81) - wal-`iyâdhubillâh!
b) "âp hazrât zarâ insâf far mâ ye or is Bareylwi Dajjâl [!!!] se
daryâfat karê - YOU PEOPLE TODAY, HAVE SOME JUSTICE AND DISCUSS
WITH THE BAREYLWI DAJJAL."
(Shihâbuth-thâqib, p. 86) - astaghfirullâh!
c) "Mujaddid aD-Dâlîn farmâ tehê - MUJADDID OF THE MISGUIDED
[DÂLÎN] STATES…" (p. 31)
d) "ham âgê chal kar sâf tôr se zâhir kar dêN ge ke Dajjâl
Bareylwi ne yahâ mahz be samjî or be `aqlî se kâm liyâ hey - WE
WILL STRIDE FORWARD AND MAKE CLEAR THAT THE BAREYLWI DAJJÂL [!!]
HERE HAS MADE USE OF VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING AND NO LOGIC."
(Shihâbuth-thâqib, p. 95)
e) RACIST talk and an evil du`â from Husayn Ahmad:
"O LEADER OF THE INNOVATORS (YÂ RA'ÎSUL-MUBTADI`ÎN) MAY ALLAH
TA`ÂLÂ MAKE YOUR FACE BLACK AND GIVE YOU THE VERY PUNISHMENT WHICH
WAS GIVEN TO ABÛ JAHAL AND `ABDULLÂH IBN UBAY. ÂMÎN"
(Shihâbuth-thâqib, p. 104-105. Similar bad du`â’s against
Hadrat (r) exist also on p. 119 and p. 120 a`ûdhubillâh!)
He swares at Ala Hadrat over and over again, saying:
"Dajjâl Bareylwî" (p. 4)
"Dajjâl Mujaddidîn" (p. 5)
"Mujaddid Bareylwî is filled with the Shaytân" (p. 16)
"Enemy of the Prophet `alayhis-salâm" [??!!] (p. 51)
"One who holds enmity to Khayrul-Anâm" [??!!] (p. 51)
"`abdud-dunyâ wad-darâhim" (p. 99)
About Ala Hadrat's teachers, he writes:
"us ka mu`allim abû marah yani iblîs la`în"
"His teacher Abu Marah, that is Iblîs accursed." (p. 16)
He even attacks his parents:
"apne âbâ-o-ajdâd yahûdî isrâ'îlî ki hadiyo ko zindah kiyâ hey."
"His fore fathers have given life to the bones of the Israelite
Jews!" (p. 97)
It is not proper abab to use such language against scholars especially Shaykh Ahmed Rida Khan who is accepted as a major scholar of the Sunni Muslim world.
And Allah knows best.
Please continue your research.
Syed Asad Amir Dean, CMA
Chairman of the Meadowvale Islamic Centre, Canada www.mici.org
Director of CME Productions www.muslimday.ca
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