... NINOWY ... WHO NEXT?

pseudo-salafi lies against the Ghumari shuyukh ? Or Ninowy try to distract

Ninou (also known as Ninowy) is so out of touch with the Islamic
spirit in Hadis

I am "Ahmad Darwish, servant of hadith" why don't 'you tell us/me who
you really are? I hope you are not Ninowy's double? these posts of you
the same that Ninowy posted on ghumari group and emailed Umar
privately in the 2004s

(1) We have a video with Sidi Hasan in Arabic saying none of them
(Ghumari Hafiz Ahmed, Abdullah and Hasan) cursed Muawiyah

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8196279095019931285

You are just a distraction and trying to get Ninowy out of the corner
he locked himself in and I will not let go see Do Not Drop The Ball.
this is the same posting Ninowy posted and emailed Umar in the old
days ... Ninowy heddin agenda

Jonat al atar book was fabricated by typewriters written in Marocco by
Abukhobza

(1) You said: "letter to Allama Sharif Boukhubza"

I wrote a book attacking Boukhubza, for he is a liar like Ninowy
see it here http://www.allah.com/pdf/khaniq.pdf

All these lies were spread in English by Ninowy in the west and his
friends, the students of shaykh Habashi - who passed away recently
mayb Allah have mecry on him - who explained in in explantation of
Tahawia contrary to Ninowy and his students misquoting him:

"mentioning any wrong done by any sahabi since they are not masoom
(heavenly protected) should not be mentioned with the *intention of
insulting such sahaba* rather it was only mentioned in order that
people learn from it and NOT do the same, otherwise scholars of Hadith
would not have reported it in the first place"

This is high thought and logic and understanding beyond you and Ninowy
to comprehend ... I will not address your deviation any more not due
lack of knowlege rather to let (1) Ninowy, (2) you, and (3) the
moderator bear the burden of introducing such deviation and lied materials

(2) HERE I GO AGAIN, I NEVER DROP THE BALL:

Ninou (also known as Ninowy) is so out of touch with the Islamic
spirit in Hadith that classify any person who lies once as a Liar for
ever in this science, therefore all that he says is rejected.

Ninou (also known as Ninowy) followers are struggling and facing
troubling dilema,whether to continue to follow a liar and share his
guilt, thereby by default they too become liars or do the right thing.

Indeed, Ninou (also known as Ninowy) must be the first Lieing shaykh
in history to bluff people by fabricating dates to gain status and a
reputation of being a scholar of hadith authoring but a few booklets
and stealing the work of others, when forced to retract stolen work,
he never appologizes rather he blames it on RECKLESS followers. This
is hard to swallow, when the work (Imam Nawawi 1950 hadith) remained
stolen for 4 years on his site, HERE YOU GO AGAIN.
AT LAST THE UNDISPUTABLE PROOF THAT NINOWY NEVER ACCOMPANIED HAFIZ
AHMAD AND ABDULLAH
In the year 1379h/1959 Hafiz Abdullah Ben Siddique published this book
on faith by Baihaqi - see dates scanned original pre-computer pages on
the title-page.
B e s t b o o k o n f a i t h b y I m a m B a i h a q i
http://www.al-mostafa.info/data/arabic/depot2/gap.php?file=014048.pdf
Incidentaly 1379h/1959 is a year before his brother Hafiz Ahmad passed
away in 1380h/1960 as per tomb stone verifies. Darwish was 8 years
old. Ninowy's mother had not even married his father. It is truly
amazing that Ninowy claimed he accompanied Hafiz Ahmad and also
studied with Hafiz Abdullah around 1987, this makes Ninowy 68 years
old while his birth certificate shows Ninowy was born in 1967! Short
of 27 years

This 68 years old could only be believed if:
1. Ninowy was born in 1940
2. Since many people born in 1940 and never met the Hafiz. Therefore
even if this is hyperthetically the case, it would still have to be proved
3. Hafiz Abdullah never mentioned Ninowy in his biography as he
mentioned others such as Ahmad Darwish
Ninowy's birth certificate year analysis

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I POSTED THEIR BOOKS AND ALSO THEIR MANUSCRIPTS IN CAIRO CENTRAL
LIBRARY WHICH NEVER PRINTED YET OVER 200 BOOKS

--- In Al-Ghumari@..., "Irfan" <a_faqir999@...> wrote:
>
> as-salamu `alaikum
>
> I hope that a similar amount of time will be dedicated to defend the
> Ghumari shuyukh from what has been spread about them by the pseudo-
> salafis on the internet !
>
>
> That they attacked the ash'aris:
>
> http://ahlalhdeeth.cc/vb/showthread.php?t=150844
> http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=93924
>
> That Shaykh Ahmad recommended Kitab al-Tawhid of Ibn Khuzaymah.
>
> That the Ghumari shuyukh attacked Sayyidina Mu`awiyah [RA].
>
> To support this most serious claim the pseudo-salafis produce the
> following quotes which they attribute to them:
>
> TAKEN FROM
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/salafi-
> youth/browse_thread/thread/909a315a8283b1ee/5aa4ea5548448c9f?
> lnk=raot#5aa4ea5548448c9f
>
> Here is a copy and paste from Ahmad Al Ghumari's leter to Allama
> Sharif Boukhubza about Al Ghumari's reasoning for declaring Mouawiyah
> (ra) as Kafir. Remember, such statements are found in many of Ahmad Al
> Ghumari's writings, among them the printed version of Ju'natul Attar,
> vol2 and vol 3.
>
> Here is what Al Ghumari says about the great Sahabi Muawiyah bin Abi
> Sufyan (radiyallah anhu):
>
> If we could meet, and you can hear things about Muawiyah, you would
> clense yourself from every wrong and falsehood containing Ashari, and
> Ashari propoganda, that was fabricated and promoted by the Nawaseb, to
> fool those with weak minds. They (the Ashari's) put it (issue of
> Muawiyah being a Sahabi and just) in the books of Tawhid, and attached
> it to the attributes of Allah and His Names.
>
> Writing about this topic does not fulfill. The three mentioned
> ahadith, two of them are correct with te isnaad of Bukhari, and they
> are:
>
>
> hadith: (if you see Muawiyah on my Minbar, kill him), therefore some
> were forced to alter the Hadith, so they made it (if you see Muawiyah
> on my minbar, accept him).
> ......
> And Al Hasan Al Basri or others said after narrating this hadith: ( we
> have seen Muawiyah speaking on the Minbar and we did not kill him,
> therefore we did not succeed, nor passed).
>
>
> The second hadith: is narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad from the hadith
> of Abdullah bin Amru bin Al Aas, he said:
> ( we were sitting with Rasullallah SAW and he said: "the first man who
> will come here, will die the day he dies on a religion other than
> Islam". I have left my father (Amru bin Al Aas) putting his clothes
> on, and I was scared that he will come first, but then ........
> came).
>
> This is how Ahmad (bin Hanbal) covered it in his Musnad as usual. But
> Al Balathiri mentioned it: Muawiyah came.
> And the hadith is narrated from many ways, all its narrators are
> narrators of Bukhari and Muslim.
>
> The third hadith: is narrated by many that a man will be in Hellfire
> calling for a 1000 yars Ya Hannan Ya Mannan. Other trustworthy
> narrators narrated with the wording: Muawiyah is in a box of Hellfire
> calling from it.
>
>
> And I have mentioned these Ahadith in a speech given by Al Ma'moon,
> narrate by Ibn Jarir in the history of year 271 or after it. Sayyed
> Muhammad bin Aqil also narrated the entire Speech in his book Nasa'eh
> Al Kafiyah, and in Sahih of Muslim, through Ali Alaihi asalam said:
> (by the one who split the pea and created the breeze, it is the oath
> of the Prophet to me, that only a believer loves me, and a Munafeq
> hates me), and in Sahih of Hakim and others: (who denconces Ali has
> denounced me, and who denounced me, has dencounced Allah), and who
> denounced Allah is Kafir.
>
>
> And in an uthic narration, that is Mutawater definitiely: ( who i was
> his Mawla, then Ali is his Mawla, O Allah support those who support
> him, and be an enemy to his enemies).
> ..........
> And it should not be hidden from you that the Nawaseb were primarily
> in Syria, Basra, and Andalus. And the aim of those Ahadith that are
> agreed upon, along with the definitive narrations that Muawiyah used
> to curse Ali all his life, and through the life of his government
> until Umar bin Abdul Aziz, and fighting him, and hating him, all would
> lead you to the conclusion that he (Muawiyah) is Munafeq and kafer.
>
> All is supported by the other Hadith as well. Nawaseb claim that
> (cursing of Ali by Muawiayh) was a matter of Ijtihaad. Though the
> Prophet SAW says in the laymen people : (Cursing the Mu'min is like
> killing him). So if Cursing a Mu'min is a matter of Ijtihaad, then
> also other Kaba'er, such as stealing, adultry, drinking, killing,
> etc.. all are subjective to be a matter of Ijtihaad. Therefore, there
> should be no punishement in the Dunya, nor in the Akhira.
>
> The topic is large, and if I had the book Taqwiyatul Iman and Nasa'eh
> Al Kafiya, I would have sent them to you as in them is sufficient. Or
> if Allah wills that we meet, then you would hear what will clear your
> heart to teh righteous belief. And if you had read Junatul Attar, the
> first volume, you would find things that will make you pleased.
>
> And the Mutawater Hadith of ( Ammar will be killed by the Baghiyah
> group, he is calling them to Janna, they are calling him to Hellfire).
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> This is in summry what te Ghumari's believe about the great Sahabi of
> the Prophet SAW, Muawiyah (RA)., and more to come on the topic of the
> stands of the Ghumari's
>
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> AND
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>
> http://groups.google.com/group/salafi-
> youth/browse_thread/thread/4925e49a99359a6a/4fba5f4b97de26ae?
> lnk=raot#4fba5f4b97de26ae
>
> There are more than a few problems with the Ghumari's. We will try to
> shed light on them one after te other. After all, Sheikh Hassan Ali
> Saqqaff is one of their fruits, among many others.
>
> Shaykh Abdullah Al Ghumari UNEQUIVICALLY declares the great Sahabi
> Muawiyah (ra) as Murtad (Kafer).
>
> The following is an excerpt from his widely available book, called
> (Nihayatul Aamaal fi Sihhati wa Shar'hi Ardi Al-Amaal), page 7.
> Sheikh Abdullah Ghumari says:
>
>
> ( Making a commentary on the hadith in Bukhari and Muslim -which talks
> about those who rejected Islam (murtadin) from the Sahaba who were
> fought by Abu Bakr (ra). Here is the Hadith as Imam Bukhari narrates
> it:
>
> Al Jaami` Al Saheeh. Version 1.07 - By Imam Al Bukhari
> Volume 4
>
> 4.568:
> Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
> The Prophet said, "You will be gathered (on the Day of Judgment),
> bare-
> footed, naked and not circumcised." He then recited:--'As We began the
> first creation, We, shall repeat it: A Promise We have undertaken:
> Truly we shall do it.' (21.104) He added, "The first to be dressed on
> the Day of Resurrection, will be Abraham, and some of my companions
> will be taken towards the left side (i.e. to the (Hell) Fire), and I
> will say: 'My companions! My companions!' It will be said: 'They
> renegade from Islam after you left them.' Then I will say as the Pious
> slave of Allah (i.e. Jesus) said. 'And I was a witness Over them while
> I dwelt amongst them. When You took me up You were the Watcher over
> them, And You are a witness to all things. If You punish them. They
> are Your slaves And if You forgive them, Verily you, only You are the
> All-Mighty, the All-Wise." (5.120-121)
>
> It basically talks about the Murtaddin (rejectors of the Deen) who
> will go to Jahannam.
> Sheikh Abdullah Al Ghumari says:
>
>
> ( "We do not -Al Ghumari is saying- have a doubt that this hadith is
> in Muawiyah and his companions, who fought the righteous Imam, and
> rejected him, and did things").
>
> Note the dangerous statement by Al Ghumari, he is not only declaring
> Muawiyah as Murtad and Kafer, but also other sahaba who fought with
> Muawiyah (ra), such as the great Sahabi Amru bin Al-Aas (ra), and many
> other Sahaba with him.
> He considers the Hadith of Murtaddin in Muawiyah (ra) and other
> companions with him.
>
> AND
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> http://groups.google.com/group/salafi-
> youth/browse_thread/thread/36882420028daa03/1aa4f6e40cc57cae?
> lnk=raot#1aa4f6e40cc57cae
>
>
> Not only Sheikh Abdullah Al Ghumari declared Muawiyah (ra) Kafer in
> his book "Niyatul Amaal", but also his brother Sheikh Abdul Aziz, says
> that unquivically.
>
> Excerpts from Sheikh Abdul Aziz Book called "Al Mu'tasi" :
>
>
> Al Ghumari says in his Book:
> (" And I have been yearning to write about the state of Muawiyah and
> his followers, and those who were unde his banner. To mention their
> evil character, expose them, and prove that they have NOT SMELLED
> Islam, let along being among the companions").
>
> Here in his Book, sheikh Abdul Azizi Al Ghumari declares unequivically
> that Muawiyah (ra), Amru bin Al-Aas (ra), and many others, have not
> even smelled Islam, let along being Muslims!!, let along being
> companions!!!
>

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