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We didn't have remote controls in those days, either. Whats the point of having
a remote control if you have to visit your tv to turn it on and off?
All part of the convience culture I guess

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter
To: Beyond_cheap_fuel@...
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:01 PM
Subject: [Beyond_cheap_fuel] Appliances on standby

If having appliances on standby wastes so much energy, I can't
understand why manufacturers make things with a standby facility.
In the old days we switched the television on when we wanted it and
when we finished we switched it off. What is wrong with that?
Peter

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If having appliances on standby wastes so much energy, I can't understand why manufacturers make things with a standby facility. In the old days we switched...

Peter
electruckpeter

Mar 8, 2007
7:16 pm

... Yes - an 'OFF' switch is definately the best way to save energy, pity they went out of fashion! Clive :-))...

clive1471

Mar 8, 2007
7:47 pm

We didn't have remote controls in those days, either. Whats the point of having a remote control if you have to visit your tv to turn it on and off? All part...

Dave
dasilvor

Mar 8, 2007
7:47 pm

I read recently that the off button is returning as manufacturers realise that people want to save electricity. BTW for those who may have missed it there's a...

Paul
paul_myatt_uk

Mar 8, 2007
10:41 pm

Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's...

laurence200857

Mar 8, 2007
10:42 pm

thank you, this is an excellent topic of conversation. i've been aware of the 'standby' power problem for years having been both on and off grid here in the...

youngchaz

Mar 14, 2007
9:36 pm

Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...

laurence200857

Mar 8, 2007
10:41 pm

I really lik e the timer idea. There are things I can't use it on though, like the VCR (Yes I still have one), because it forgets the pre-programmed channels...

the_unagog

Mar 13, 2007
5:04 pm

A simple way to judge whether an appliance is wasting power or not on standby, is to feel how hot it's getting when left overnight - easier with a plug in...

clive1471

Mar 13, 2007
5:56 pm

... I've been wondering about the possibilities of having a low-voltage (probably 12v) "ring main" in addition to the normal 230v. This would allow the many...

Dave Gordon
dg32768

Mar 30, 2007
1:27 pm

12V ring mains is certainly an interesting idea, but probably rather expensive if you're going to make a "proper" job of it (decorating costs, mainly). As a...

laurence200857

Mar 30, 2007
5:25 pm

The problem with a low voltage ring main is you get a big voltage reduction over long cable distances. That is why the distribution companies transform up to...

Peter Eggleston
electruckpeter

Mar 30, 2007
7:12 pm

I agree with Peter's point about high current and ensuing voltage drops. But I guess you've never owned an original Mini, Pete!! :) But seriously, Folks....

laurence200857

Mar 31, 2007
8:06 am

I have actually owned 3 original minis, plus my Dad and sister had one each. I also had a Beetle Volkswagen with a 6 volt battery under the back seat and the...

Peter Eggleston
electruckpeter

Apr 1, 2007
8:39 am

Ah, yes, peter, but then at 28mph you'd have time to avoid anything which entered the dim glow of the headlights! And it occurred to me after I wrote the last...

Laurence Wilkins
laurence200857

Apr 2, 2007
7:44 am

Yes and under the back seat is quite close to a Beetle's engine. I did manage 80 mph in the 1200 cc Beetle, but blew the piston rings as a result. Peter ... ...

Peter Eggleston
electruckpeter

Apr 2, 2007
7:17 pm

Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...

laurence200857

Mar 8, 2007
10:41 pm

Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...

laurence200857

Mar 8, 2007
10:42 pm

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