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Re: Appliances NOT on standby!!

I really lik e the timer idea. There are things I can't use it on
though, like the VCR (Yes I still have one), because it forgets the
pre-programmed channels evey time it's unplugged. A real pain after
a power outage. The TV would be great on a timer, though.


--- In Beyond_cheap_fuel@..., "laurence200857"
<laurence.wilkins@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's
> "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9
times
> out of 10 will not get up off his @rse to cross the living room to
> switch off an appliance when he could just press the red button on
the
> remote instead. And manufacturers wont really start to lower standby
> power until it hurts sales not to. But you knew all that :)
>
> I have been doing some research. I have an old analogue 14 inch TV.
> Switched on, it burns 60W. That's OK; I'm watching it. Switched off,
> it burns 7W. It gets worse. Attached to it is a Digibox. Switched on
> it burns 14W. Switched off (i.e. little green light on the front
turms
> red) it burns - wait for it - 14W. ARE THEY HAVING A LAUGH??
>
> My nice new plasma screen burns 250W when switched on, 29W (!!) on
> standby AND 24 WATTS WHEN SWITCHED OFF BY THE "MAINS" BUTTON ON THE
> TV! I wonder how many people even REALISE that? The only way to kill
> the consumption fully is to RIP THE PLUG OUT. And how many can be
> bothered to do that? (See para 1).
>
> I already have an easy half-answer to this. On such devices where
> there might be at least reasonably regular useage patterns (I am not
> generally watching TV after midnight or before 5PM weekdays,
different
> at the weekends) I have simply installed a 7 day TIMESWITCH. Simple,
> and it works.
>
> Here's another even better idea - I reckon I could easily build a
> prototype, but proper type approval for mainstream production rules
> out small guys like me - a variation on the timeswitch or "Smart
> Socket(r)" (which are really good, by the way). Imagine a plug-in
> socket which ONLY switches on its output when it sees an IR pulse
(ANY
> IR pulse - it doesn't need to decode it) and then switches off after
> (say) two hours if it has seen no further pulses. Few of us can
watch
> the same channel for much longer than that without reaching for the
> remote to adjust the volume of something.That would sort out Mr
LARDY
> BLOKE in para 1 (which, let's face it, is all of us), and probably
> save the planet, to. A bit.
>
> So, you energy concious types out there, tell me if YOU would be
> interested in such a device, and what you think you would be
prepared
> to pay - I might look into a handful of prototypes if the demand is
> there
>
> Remember- every wasted standby-watt is costing you around a pound a
> year in round numbers
>
> While you are figuring out what such a device might be worth to you
or
> anyone else, here's something else to make you think. I have read
more
> than once that it is FIVE TO SEVEN TIMES CHEAPER to not waste energy
> in the first place, than to try and generate it locally from
renewable
> resources (wind/solar/hydro/tidal or whatever). Make ya think,
dunnit?
>
> Laurence Wilkins
>





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If having appliances on standby wastes so much energy, I can't understand why manufacturers make things with a standby facility. In the old days we switched...
Peter
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Mar 8, 2007
7:16 pm

... Yes - an 'OFF' switch is definately the best way to save energy, pity they went out of fashion! Clive :-))...
clive1471
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We didn't have remote controls in those days, either. Whats the point of having a remote control if you have to visit your tv to turn it on and off? All part...
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I read recently that the off button is returning as manufacturers realise that people want to save electricity. BTW for those who may have missed it there's a...
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Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's...
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thank you, this is an excellent topic of conversation. i've been aware of the 'standby' power problem for years having been both on and off grid here in the...
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Mar 14, 2007
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Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...
laurence200857
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I really lik e the timer idea. There are things I can't use it on though, like the VCR (Yes I still have one), because it forgets the pre-programmed channels...
the_unagog
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Mar 13, 2007
5:04 pm

A simple way to judge whether an appliance is wasting power or not on standby, is to feel how hot it's getting when left overnight - easier with a plug in...
clive1471
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Mar 13, 2007
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... I've been wondering about the possibilities of having a low-voltage (probably 12v) "ring main" in addition to the normal 230v. This would allow the many...
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Mar 30, 2007
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12V ring mains is certainly an interesting idea, but probably rather expensive if you're going to make a "proper" job of it (decorating costs, mainly). As a...
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The problem with a low voltage ring main is you get a big voltage reduction over long cable distances. That is why the distribution companies transform up to...
Peter Eggleston
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Mar 30, 2007
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I agree with Peter's point about high current and ensuing voltage drops. But I guess you've never owned an original Mini, Pete!! :) But seriously, Folks....
laurence200857
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Mar 31, 2007
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I have actually owned 3 original minis, plus my Dad and sister had one each. I also had a Beetle Volkswagen with a 6 volt battery under the back seat and the...
Peter Eggleston
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Ah, yes, peter, but then at 28mph you'd have time to avoid anything which entered the dim glow of the headlights! And it occurred to me after I wrote the last...
Laurence Wilkins
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Apr 2, 2007
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Yes and under the back seat is quite close to a Beetle's engine. I did manage 80 mph in the 1200 cc Beetle, but blew the piston rings as a result. Peter ... ...
Peter Eggleston
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Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...
laurence200857
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Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...
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