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Re: Appliances on Standby - is it hot or is it not??
Clive wrote:
> A simple way to judge whether an appliance is wasting
> power or not on standby, is to feel how hot it's getting
> when left overnight - easier with a plug in power pack
> then a TV I must admit. The small solid state 'switch
> mode' plug in charger that came with my mobile 'phone
> is stone cold when left plugged in and on, yet the power
> supply to my external disk drive sits there roasting hot,
> even with the switch on the drive set to 'off', so I
> only plug it in when I need the external 'archive' drive.
> My old BT voyager 105 broadband modem was powered by the
> USB port, the new faster one they brought out is powered
> by a separate transformer, and both it and the transformer
> used to sit there 24/7 wasting energy. As I didn't notice
> much of an improvement in surfing speed, I went back to
> the old one.
I've been wondering about the possibilities of having a
low-voltage (probably 12v) "ring main" in addition to
the normal 230v. This would allow the many small power
conversion transformers common today to be replaced with
a single larger one.
In general transformer efficiency increases with size,
so this should save power. The low-voltage circuit could
also be used to supply low-voltage lighting circuits,
which again often have their own transformers. This will
be a particular win as low-voltage halogen is superceded
by low-voltage LED lighting ...
If having appliances on standby wastes so much energy, I can't understand why manufacturers make things with a standby facility. In the old days we switched...
We didn't have remote controls in those days, either. Whats the point of having a remote control if you have to visit your tv to turn it on and off? All part...
I read recently that the off button is returning as manufacturers realise that people want to save electricity. BTW for those who may have missed it there's a...
thank you, this is an excellent topic of conversation. i've been aware of the 'standby' power problem for years having been both on and off grid here in the...
Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...
I really lik e the timer idea. There are things I can't use it on though, like the VCR (Yes I still have one), because it forgets the pre-programmed channels...
A simple way to judge whether an appliance is wasting power or not on standby, is to feel how hot it's getting when left overnight - easier with a plug in...
... I've been wondering about the possibilities of having a low-voltage (probably 12v) "ring main" in addition to the normal 230v. This would allow the many...
12V ring mains is certainly an interesting idea, but probably rather expensive if you're going to make a "proper" job of it (decorating costs, mainly). As a...
The problem with a low voltage ring main is you get a big voltage reduction over long cable distances. That is why the distribution companies transform up to...
I agree with Peter's point about high current and ensuing voltage drops. But I guess you've never owned an original Mini, Pete!! :) But seriously, Folks....
I have actually owned 3 original minis, plus my Dad and sister had one each. I also had a Beetle Volkswagen with a 6 volt battery under the back seat and the...
Ah, yes, peter, but then at 28mph you'd have time to avoid anything which entered the dim glow of the headlights! And it occurred to me after I wrote the last...
Yes and under the back seat is quite close to a Beetle's engine. I did manage 80 mph in the 1200 cc Beetle, but blew the piston rings as a result. Peter ... ...
Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...
Oh, Pete, I fear you may have opened the floodgates! OK, here's "what's wrong with that" as you ask. Mankind is BONE IDLE and 9 times out of 10 will not get up...