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Re: The true cost of grid v. solar/wind power

You must have misunderstood me. I DO own a solar installation company in
Colorado. I was not being sarcastic. Have a great day!

Jeff

--- In Beyond_cheap_fuel@..., "lamar5292" <lamar5292@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe you thought to be funny so I will correct you.
>
> I am a solar installer and sub contractor in a small town in Utah. I do not
leave my town to do installations anywhere else. I don't think there is anyone
from Roosevelt here- raise your hands if you are ?
>
> This post was meant to educate people to the real cost of grid electricity vs.
solar/wind and nothing else. Shouldn't that be the focus of a group titled
beyond-cheap-fuel ?
>
> LaMar
>
>
>
>
> --- In Beyond_cheap_fuel@..., "gixxer1255" <gixxer1255@> wrote:
> >
> > I own a solar installation company and I will put up the solar system you
want...
> >
> > Jeff
> > --- In Beyond_cheap_fuel@..., "lamar5292" <lamar5292@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since there has been debate over the financial aspects of installing
solar/wind vs. a standard grid connection I think it would help to see the true
cost of each.
> > >
> > > Lets say Alex and I want to build an identical new home with identical
appliances and we will need 5kw to run those appliances.
> > >
> > > Alex and I don't like each other or neighbors so we buy ten acres of
property on opposite sides of any highway, county road, or rural road with a
grid system in place. We build our homes at the back of the property and say
this is 1 mile distance.
> > >
> > > Alex wants to be grid connected so he he will pay for 4 utility poles at
$7000 per pole plus $2000-$3000 for transformer and connection fee.
> > >
> > > His cost to attach to the grid is 4x$7000=$28000 plus $2000= $30,000
> > > Alex will need to pay for this upfront to get connected.
> > >
> > > I on the other hand want to use solar so I purchase a 5kw system at todays
prices of about $40,000. I am smart so I also use the present tax and state
rebates to get a 30% deduction of $12000 on my system. My total cost is then
$28,000. So my system cost $2000 less than Alex system for the same power.
> > >
> > > Wait it gets better- My system is paid for and I have no utility bills
while Alex still has to pay about $100 a month at current electricity prices for
the rest of his life.
> > >
> > > I like to have nice things so I spend that $100 a month savings a new car
payment, golf club membership or a new Harley. Or maybe I want more electricity
so I increase my system with the savings.
> > >
> > > You see folks people make the mistake of thinking your power bill is the
only cost for your grid electricity. If you buy a home the builder paid for the
connection and adds it to the cost of the home. You are still paying for that
connection.
> > >
> > > Plus I hired a local solar contractor and two employees to install my
system providing local jobs and purchased my panels from a US company also
providing jobs. My neighbors kids work for those companies and now they have
jobs and can afford their own solar homes.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, Alex chose a state with coal generators and the cap and
trade has raised his rates by 75% and they just keep going up. His $100 a month
bill is now $175 with no end in sight.
> > >
> > > Alex and I want to live in a healthy environment and while my solar
electric produces no toxins his dirty coal electricity poisons the air near his
house and he gets sick, his flowers die, and his water is undrinkable.
> > >
> > > These are the true costs of solar/wind vs. grid electric folks!
> > >
> > > *prices are based on Utah figures and many states charge more.
> > >
> > > LaMar
> > > www.simplesolarhomesteading.com
> > >
> >
>





Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:48 pm

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Since there has been debate over the financial aspects of installing solar/wind vs. a standard grid connection I think it would help to see the true cost of...
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Mar 26, 2009
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I'm currently looking in to providing power for a remote chicken farm where the electric company wanted a fortune to run grid power over to the field. My...
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Mar 26, 2009
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I own a solar installation company and I will put up the solar system you want... Jeff...
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Maybe you thought to be funny so I will correct you. I am a solar installer and sub contractor in a small town in Utah. I do not leave my town to do...
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Mar 29, 2009
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You must have misunderstood me. I DO own a solar installation company in Colorado. I was not being sarcastic. Have a great day! Jeff...
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Mar 30, 2009
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I apologize for the miss-understanding. Have a great day! LaMar...
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I agree that there is a cost in connecting to the grid for a new property. In your situation the solar makes absolute sense. However most people don't live a...
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Installation is included in your monthly service charge. About $20 per month adds up to $7000 in 30 years. Go price new construction set ups. Most people do...
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No worries. I have seen alot of sarcastic posts on various forums. I could have misconstrued if I was the one reading your post. Take care, Jeff ...
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