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Hi all....below is a summary of the things we discussed in the Captain's meeting as Hus Bos..pls let me know ASAP if I have got anything wrong or missed anything?



General aim is to make this a 'fun introduction to competition flying', rather than a '2 day regionals'.   The following items were discussed:



Use of 'Reserve Weekend':

We have agreed that 5 weekends is the maximum number to run interclub weekends on.  When we have more than 5 clubs wishing to host a weekend then the following clubs will pencil in a reserve weekend, only to be used if 3 or less scoring days have been completed by the end of the third I/C weekend.  The date of the reserve weekend is to be agreed at the start of the season along with all the other weekends.  ( Clubs / years were decided by drawing names from a hat at the Captain's meeting)

2007 Dunstable
        2008 Saltby
        2009 Cranwell
        2010 Gransden
        2011 Four Counties
        2012 Hus Bos


Loggers:

Encourage use of IGC loggers, but accept alternative traces, such as from winpilot or GPS logs, so long as the format can be easily read by software such as Tasknav / Seeyou

Scores on the day based on 'honest reporting' by pilot (start time, TP's etc), with .igc file e-mailed within 7 days.  No .IGC file = no score.  Encourage pilots to post IGC files on the BGA Ladder.


Discussed the idea of having a site dedcated to UK Interclubs that scores / dates / reports could be posted on.


Launching


If the weather is such that a gridded launch system is more suitable, then this is preferable, but consider use of non-gridded launching if weather is less predictable.  This would encourage flying even if the weather is not capable of sustaining 3 classes x 6 teams.   It is still acceptable to cancel the task / scrub day so long as not pilots have called start.    "Y" needs to be made clear at briefing and stuck to, but can bring down to 40km for Novices or 60Km/40% for Intermediates.   Still to use a fix task, but ensure tasks are small enough to allow for delayed lauch due to club traffic.

Tugs should aim to drop gliders in lift / under clouds, rather than using a strict drop zone as in Regionals.




Definition of classes


Pundits can fly in intermediate if flying club class glider under club class rules...ie no water.


If someone has flown as P1 in rated comp then cannot be novice.

Pundit = 500k or any nationals other than juniors


Task setting


Novice tasks should be set with a 'novice flying a Libelle' in mind...vs the extremes of Discus 2 or K6cr.


Start Height


A maximum start height should only be used for airspace reasons.


Briefing by 'pundit'


Useful for Novices and Intermediates if a 5 min briefing 'my initial thoughts' on the task and weather is given by a Pundit...plus a post task briefing in the evening or following days briefing.


Wet weather sessions


In the unlikely event of poor weather, it would be good for each club to have a talk / discussion they could offer...again targetting Novice / Intermediates


Scoring


Scoring to be based on 3,2,1 rather than 6,5,4 (ie maximum points on a day is the number of pilots that compete, rather than number of teams in league)

Any competition launch counts as scoring at least a point (vs having to make a valid start).


Aim is to spread the flying across a large number of pilots, so aim is for no more than 4 scoring flights per person per season, but prepared to be flexible where clubs have an issue with available pilots.  Team Captains can lodge a complaint if they think this flexibility is being abused.


Original copy of 2003 rules below




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Hi all....below is a summary of the things we discussed in the Captain's meeting as Hus Bos..pls let me know ASAP if I have got anything wrong or missed...
Chris Davison
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May 8, 2007
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I agree with the minutes below except the section on Scoring where it says: ‘Scoring to be based on 3,2,1 rather than 6,5,4 (ie maximum points on a day is...
Colin Cownden
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May 8, 2007
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Hi Guys and Gals I obviously was not at the meeting so cannot confirm what you decided to do re scoring. However, I would like to implore you not to change the...
Russell Cheetham
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May 9, 2007
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Well - I didn't read the minutes which I now find attached below Colin's input - it would appear that you guys have not changed the scoring in a way as per my...
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May 9, 2007
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That pretty much summed it up. Paul ... From: Chris Davison To: East_Mids_ICL@... Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:30 AM Subject: [East_Mids_ICL]...
Paul Machacek
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May 9, 2007
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Russell, The same pilot did a very impressive solo 270K of a 300K task off the back of the grid at the Bicester Regionals last year when Foxy and I struggled...
Paul Machacek
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May 9, 2007
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Paul She MIGHT be nearly as good as you at soaring but as she only went solo recently, is otherwise highly inexperienced and has never had a single season as a...
Russell Cheetham
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May 10, 2007
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We did in fact mention this pilot at the Captain's meeting on Saturday but I think that the consensus was that we cannot examine every single possible entrant...
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May 10, 2007
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Hi Miriam That was at least four pence worth :-) ________________________________ From: East_Mids_ICL@... ...
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...If Miriam says it was tuppence, it was tuppence! Chris Chris Davison BPO Channel Expansion Manager Chris_Davison@... 634249 mx 273983 Tel +44...
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I'm willing to go halves and say that it might have been thruppence worth! Miriam ... 115 ... Our ... captain's ... captain's ... not ... were ... went ... get...
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I totally agree about overall experience, and the natural talent that's already shining through should not disguise that fact. Can't wait for her to leave the...
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