From: East_Mids_ICL@... [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of Russell Cheetham
Sent: 09 May 2007 17:05
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Subject: RE: [East_Mids_ICL] 2007 Interclub rules / minutes from captain's meeting
From: East_Mids_ICL@
Sent: 08 May 2007 18:31
To: East_Mids_ICL@
Subject: RE: [East_Mids_ICL] 2007 Interclub rules / minutes from captain's meeting
I agree with the minutes below except the section on Scoring where it says:
‘Scoring to be based on 3,2,1 rather than 6,5,4 (ie maximum points on a day is the number of pilots that compete, rather than number of teams in league)’
I thought that we simplified it even further and said in effect – 1st = 5 pts, 2nd = 4pts, 3rd = 3pts and so on in each class regardless of how many pilots competed.
So for example if one club were unable to compete in a round that fact would not devalue the score for the other clubs.
A pilot taking a competition launch would also still get a single point even if they could not achieve a scorable task.
I suspect that this last point would affect our stance on the ‘no .IGC trace no score’ decision. – should we give them a single point instead?
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Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] 2007 Interclub rules / minutes from captain's meeting
Hi all....below is a summary of the things we discussed in the Captain's meeting as Hus Bos..pls let me know ASAP if I have got anything wrong or missed anything?
General aim is to make this a 'fun introduction to competition flying', rather than a '2 day regionals'. The following items were discussed:
Use of 'Reserve Weekend':
We have agreed that 5 weekends is the maximum number to run interclub weekends on. When we have more than 5 clubs wishing to host a weekend then the following clubs will pencil in a reserve weekend, only to be used if 3 or less scoring days have been completed by the end of the third I/C weekend. The date of the reserve weekend is to be agreed at the start of the season along with all the other weekends. ( Clubs / years were decided by drawing names from a hat at the Captain's meeting)
2007 Dunstable
2008 Saltby
2009 Cranwell
2010 Gransden
2011 Four Counties
2012 Hus Bos
Loggers:
Encourage use of IGC loggers, but accept alternative traces, such as from winpilot or GPS logs, so long as the format can be easily read by software such as Tasknav / Seeyou
Scores on the day based on 'honest reporting' by pilot (start time, TP's etc), with .igc file e-mailed within 7 days. No .IGC file = no score. Encourage pilots to post IGC files on the BGA Ladder.
Discussed the idea of having a site dedcated to UK Interclubs that scores / dates / reports could be posted on.
Launching
If the weather is such that a gridded launch system is more suitable, then this is preferable, but consider use of non-gridded launching if weather is less predictable. This would encourage flying even if the weather is not capable of sustaining 3 classes x 6 teams. It is still acceptable to cancel the task / scrub day so long as not pilots have called start. "Y" needs to be made clear at briefing and stuck to, but can bring down to 40km for Novices or 60Km/40% for Intermediates. Still to use a fix task, but ensure tasks are small enough to allow for delayed lauch due to club traffic.
Tugs should aim to drop gliders in lift / under clouds, rather than using a strict drop zone as in Regionals.
Definition of classes
Pundits can fly in intermediate if flying club class glider under club class rules...ie no water.
If someone has flown as P1 in rated comp then cannot be novice.
Pundit = 500k or any nationals other than juniors
Task setting
Novice tasks should be set with a 'novice flying a Libelle' in mind...vs the extremes of Discus 2 or K6cr.
Start Height
A maximum start height should only be used for airspace reasons.
Briefing by 'pundit'
Useful for Novices and Intermediates if a 5 min briefing 'my initial thoughts' on the task and weather is given by a Pundit...plus a post task briefing in the evening or following days briefing.
Wet weather sessions
In the unlikely event of poor weather, it would be good for each club to have a talk / discussion they could offer...again targetting Novice / Intermediates
Scoring
Scoring to be based on 3,2,1 rather than 6,5,4 (ie maximum points on a day is the number of pilots that compete, rather than number of teams in league)
Any competition launch counts as scoring at least a point (vs having to make a valid start).
Aim is to spread the flying across a large number of pilots, so aim is for no more than 4 scoring flights per person per season, but prepared to be flexible where clubs have an issue with available pilots. Team Captains can lodge a complaint if they think this flexibility is being abused.
Original copy of 2003 rules below
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