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RE: [East_Mids_ICL] New Rules - Bringing All the Threads Together

 
Hi Everyone
I am sure Miriam meant OR but I do feel that it was decided that more than 1 Regional's put you in Intermediate for following year and not more than 2 - also its not clear whether dispensation to allow Novice an extra year after qualifying to move up applies to Regional's - suggest NOT - if so then our novices could well be competing have done five Regional's?
Chris has a very valid point regarding Novice 500km - suggest a 500km should put pilot straight into Intermediate for following season.
We need to be careful to not go too far with this or nearly everyone will qualify as a novice :-)
Cheers
Russell


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Hi all, can we claifiy the logical operands here

is it

1)        2. An Intermediate is anyone who has flown a UK 300km AND  has competed in more than 2 UK Regionals..

If so then we are saying that a Novice can have done a 300 and a  few 500's , but as long as they have not flown 3 regionals they don't qualify as an intermediate?

So I presume we are saying 'OR' - which makes sense as if you are on your 3rd regionals you areprobably going to have cracked a 300.

I fully support the rule changes for pundit based on my performance last weekend!!

Chris




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Dear all,

There appear to be several different conversations going on at the moment so in an attempt to bring them all together, please see below:

1. A Novice is anyone who has at least a Cross Country Endorsement, has not flown a UK 300km and can have competed in up to 2 UK Regional competitions.

2. An Intermediate is anyone who has flown a UK 300km, has competed in more than 2 UK Regionals.

3. A Pundit is anyone who has flown a UK 750km or has been placed in the top half of a UK Nationals in the last 10 years.

4. There is a period of grace between the move from Novice to Intermediate of one year. For example; if a novice flies a 300km this season (2009), they will not be expected to fly as an Intermediate until the 2011 season.

5. Anyone can move up a class without any penalties. If you feel that an Intermediate could compete against Pundits (or to soothe their feelings!), there is no penalty in doing this.

Russell makes a good point that the orignal rules were designed a long time ago and these changes reflect the changes which have taken place in aircraft design, instrumentation.... etc.

Hopefully this makes it clearer!

Miriam








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Dear all, There appear to be several different conversations going on at the moment so in an attempt to bring them all together, please see below: 1. A Novice...
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Hi all, can we claifiy the logical operands here is it 1) 2. An Intermediate is anyone who has flown a UK 300km AND has competed in more than 2 UK...
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Hi Everyone I am sure Miriam meant OR but I do feel that it was decided that more than 1 Regional's put you in Intermediate for following year and not more...
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Dear All Having thrown in deliberate mistake in my last communication (well spotted Chris!) I recall the discussion regarding a pilot's move from Novice to...
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Dear All Thanks for spotting my deliberate mistake Chris - just checking everyone was reading the new rules carefully! During the conversation at HUS it was...
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So, if you have done a 750 or finished in the top half of a national you are a pundit if you have done a 300 or competed in 2 regionals you are an intermediate...
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Wouldn't this be better in reverse to illustrate that pilots of lower experience may always move up a class as required or wished. This is how the original...
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Hi Russell, I think the ORs should be ANDs in the clauses. As for the rest, it works for me. Julian...
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Hi Julian They have to be OR's otherwise, as an example, a pilot who never enters Regional's will always remain a Novice even if he/she flies a 1000km as ...
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Sorry Russell - I agree with Julian's logic, based on the fact your rules have ORs as well as NOTs. So by your rules below, for example, anyone who has NOT...
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You wouldn't believe how hard it is to write three sentences or misinterpret the same three sentences :-) I didn't get the highest grade in English "O" level...
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How about putting an "either" in the sentence instead.... An intermediate is someone who has flown either a UK 300km or more than 2 Regionals. A pundit is...
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