1stly I raised the issue for debating purposes. I personally have no issue
with 5 weekends (though I can't make Dunstable as I'm in Spain) :-(

Last year, despite of (or because of) the generally dire weather we had, I'm
aware that some clubs struggled to field full teams. At the HB weekend, the
1st one so enthusiasm was high after so long away, Saltby managed 14-15
people and 6-7 gliders arrive in total throughout the weekend.
Unfortunately, by the time we launched on the last day only 3 pilots and 1
crew (sort of, Ania's great but doesn't tow or rig/derig) were left. The 3
of us landed out! Thanks to an impromptu last minute save by a mate who
trundled along on his motorbike to say hi, plus the help of the 4 Counties
mob and an aerotow we got back. I know that other clubs had fewer people
around.

I also wasn't necessarily suggesting that it would be Cranwell simply
because they're last. Indeed, the timing of their weekend is probably more
likely than any other at this stage to provide some decent weather.
Dunstable's inclusion was last minute and given what Mel told us it seems
she had to use thumb screws to get the weekend.

Indeed, her response to this question indicates there may still be merit in
raising the issue.

I'd really like to fly at Dunstable because I like the club, I'd like to fly
at Cranwell as it's local (I may also like it but I haven't been there yet).

Is this issue worth a vote? Shall we just set 5 dates in stone and debate
the issue again for next year?

Paul


----- Original Message -----
From: "adrianhatton" <Adrian.hatton1@...>
To: <East_Mids_ICL@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:15 AM
Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: 2006 final dates


>I know it was me that encouraged Mel to go for a weekend at Dunstable
> but we were only looking at a forth weekend at that stage.
> And yes, I am very pleased to be able to go fly at Cranwell as it is
> the nearest club to me of all the ICL clubs (including my own).
> However....
>
> I am going to struggle to put together full teams (and crews) for
> five whole weekends - we have regional and national
> comps,taskweeks,x.c training weekends etc. etc. to fit around. Club
> gliders are already committed to some of those events and pilots have
> time problems committing to entire weekends just before or just after
> another event.
>
> If we do decide to go for eleven possible ICL comp days on 5 weekends
> then I suggest we will need to relax the max days/pilot rule - to
> say 5 or 6 days/pilot?
>
> BTW I agree that while forecasting is not a precise art, it is
> relatively easy to tell if the next two days are going to be good
> comp type days or no hopers - driving a hundred odd miles to 'maybe'
> fly a 100km triangle in 25kts wind and 2000ft cloudbase is not as
> attractive as it used to be to people who value their time highly,
> unlike us dedicated team captain types.
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
>
> --- In East_Mids_ICL@..., "Melissa Jenkins" <melissa-
> yahoo@l...> wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to struggle to get novices for all the events! Anything
> that
>> makes this less of a problem would be gratefully received ;)
>>
>> Mel
>>
>> On 01/03/06, Paul Machacek <pm.home@v...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey All,
>> >
>> > I was chatting to Adrian last night and made a suggestion that he
> thought
>> > I ought to put to you all for discussion.
>> >
>> > There was some debate about whether 5 weekends may be too much,
> but we've
>> > currently got 5 clubs offering to host to try to overcome the
> horrible
>> > weather problems we've had in the last couple of years
> (especially 2005).
>> >
>> > What I suggested as an option is that if one of the clubs with
> the later
>> > dates would prefer then they could be listed as a spare weekend.
> We'd see
>> > how the 1st 2 weekends go and if we've had some luck with the
> weather then
>> > the team captains could get together and maybe agree that the
> spare weekend
>> > is not used. However, if after the 1st 2 rounds we've had bad
> luck then we
>> > could agree to use the spare weekend to try and salvage something.
>> >
>> > The issue Adrian highlighted is that some clubs may struggle to
> field a
>> > full team for 5 whole weekends.
>> >
>> > Anyone got any thoughts on this?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > *From:* Chris Davison <chris_davison@u...>
>> > *To:* East_Mids_ICL@...
>> > *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2006 8:47 AM
>> > *Subject:* [East_Mids_ICL] 2006 final dates
>> >
>> >
>> > Wow, let's make this as complicated as possible! 5 weekends is
> good...if
>> > they are ALL competition days....GREAT! If the weather forecast
> looks
>> > crap, then each team captain can make a decision...but since when
> has UK
>> > weather forecasting been able to tell us what a sunday will be
> like on the
>> > friday??
>> >
>> > Final dates are:
>> > April 29/30 May 1st (bank hol) Hus Bos
>> >
>> > May 20/21 Saltby
>> >
>> > June 3/4
> Gransden
>> >
>> > June 24/25
> Dunstable
>> >
>> > July 8/9 Cranwell
>> >
>> > Paul, get that poster up in the clubroom!
>> >
>> > Gentlemen (and women)...start your engines........
>> >
>> >
>> > Chris
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>> > *"Adrian Hatton" <Adrian.hatton1@b...>*
>> > Sent by: East_Mids_ICL@...
>> >
>> > 25/02/2006 07:03 Please respond to
>> > East_Mids_ICL
>> >
>> > To
>> > <East_Mids_ICL@...> cc
>> >
>> > Subject
>> > RE: [East_Mids_ICL] Cranwell Weekend
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ged, all,
>> >
>> > I think having five weekends is good given the run of poorer
> weather we
>> > have
>> > had over the last few years.
>> >
>> > We can always opt to see how many days we get from the earlier
> weekends
>> > and
>> > if 'x' days are scored then the last weekend can be used as an
> informal
>> > get
>> > together rather than a scoring weekend.
>> >
>> > Alternatively, (and in my opinion, a bit dodgy this one but
> putting it out
>> > for discussion) if on the Friday evening of an ICL weekend the
> forecast
>> > looks like being a no-hope comp weekend we could have the
> flexibility of
>> > cancelling at that stage with approval of all captains (deputies)
> and know
>> > we still have another spare weekend available.
>> >
>> > Your thoughts?
>> >
>> > Adrian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: East_Mids_ICL@...
>> > [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...]On Behalf Of gedmcknight
>> > Sent: 23 February 2006 12:46
>> > To: East_Mids_ICL@...
>> > Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Cranwell Weekend
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > The RAF have agreed to Cranwell GC hosting an Interclub Weekend
> on the
>> > 9th & 10th July.
>> > This gives us the luxury of 5 weekends this year.
>> >
>> > If ecery one is ok with this I will confirm with the RAF, this
> will
>> > give us the same access to the South A/F as last year.
>> >
>> > Normal arrangements required before hand will be list of people
>> > attending and car reg (not just for pilots)
>> >
>> > Cheers for now
>> >
>> > Ged
>> >
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