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#468 From: "Andrew" <andrew@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Dates for 2010
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Hi,
 
I can confirm that Saltby can host the reserve round on 10/11 July should this be necessary.
 
 
So fixtures now look thus:

1/2/3    May     Hus Bos            Confirmed
15/16   May     Cranwell           (please confirm or suggest alternative dates)
   5/6   June     Four counties
19/20  June     Dunstable -       Confirmed but happy to swap dates if necessary
10/11  July      Saltby                Confirmed.   (Reserve date)
 
Andrew




#467 From: Julian Bane <julianbane@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Dates for 2010
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We need to be careful. This amount of forward planning and organization may have us having to run regionals comps for our clubs too!

Cheers,

Julian

At 14:58 20/11/2009, mark969davis wrote:
 

Thanks Colin,

So fixtures now look thus:

1/2/3 May Hus Bos - confirmed
15/16 May Cranwell (please confirm or suggest alternative dates)
5/6 June Four counties
19/20 June Dunstable - confirmed but happy to swap dates if necessary
3/4 or 10/11 July Saltby (reserve weekend if required)

Regards,

Mark.

--- In East_Mids_ICL@..., <colin.davey@...> wrote:
>
> Can I provisionally book 5/6 June for 4 Counties please
>
>
> From: East_Mids_ICL@... [ mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
> Sent: 20 November 2009 11:46
> To: East_Mids_ICL@...
> Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Dates for 2010
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Are we happy to stick with 4 weekends, of do we want to go back to 5? If we are happy with 4, then using the rota Chris supplied, Cambridge will be resting and Saltby will be covering the reserve (as Dunstable was down as reserve in 2009). If we stick to the same weekends as last year this is the first pass at the fixture list:
>
> 1/2/3rd May Hus Bos
> 15/16th May Four counties/Cranwell (captains please confirm)
> 5/6th June Four counties/Cranwell (captains please confirm)
> 19/20th June Dunstable (happy to swap dates if necessary)
> 3/4th or 10/11th July Saltby (reserve weekend if required)
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark.
>


#466 From: "mark969davis" <mark969davis@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Dates for 2010
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Thanks Colin,

So fixtures now look thus:

1/2/3 May   Hus Bos   - confirmed
15/16 May   Cranwell (please confirm or suggest alternative dates)
5/6   June  Four counties
19/20 June  Dunstable - confirmed but happy to swap dates if necessary
3/4 or 10/11 July Saltby (reserve weekend if required)

Regards,

Mark.


--- In East_Mids_ICL@..., <colin.davey@...> wrote:
>
> Can I provisionally book 5/6 June for 4 Counties please
>
>
> From: East_Mids_ICL@... [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...]
On Behalf Of mark969davis
> Sent: 20 November 2009 11:46
> To: East_Mids_ICL@...
> Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Dates for 2010
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Are we happy to stick with 4 weekends, of do we want to go back to 5? If we
are happy with 4, then using the rota Chris supplied, Cambridge will be resting
and Saltby will be covering the reserve (as Dunstable was down as reserve in
2009). If we stick to the same weekends as last year this is the first pass at
the fixture list:
>
> 1/2/3rd May Hus Bos
> 15/16th May Four counties/Cranwell (captains please confirm)
> 5/6th June Four counties/Cranwell (captains please confirm)
> 19/20th June Dunstable (happy to swap dates if necessary)
> 3/4th or 10/11th July Saltby (reserve weekend if required)
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark.
>

#465 From: <colin.davey@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:58 am
Subject: RE: Dates for 2010
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Can I provisionally book 5/6 June for 4 Counties please

 

 

From: East_Mids_ICL@... [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
Sent: 20 November 2009 11:46
To: East_Mids_ICL@...
Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Dates for 2010

 

 

Hi All,

Are we happy to stick with 4 weekends, of do we want to go back to 5? If we are happy with 4, then using the rota Chris supplied, Cambridge will be resting and Saltby will be covering the reserve (as Dunstable was down as reserve in 2009). If we stick to the same weekends as last year this is the first pass at the fixture list:

1/2/3rd May Hus Bos
15/16th May Four counties/Cranwell (captains please confirm)
5/6th June Four counties/Cranwell (captains please confirm)
19/20th June Dunstable (happy to swap dates if necessary)
3/4th or 10/11th July Saltby (reserve weekend if required)

Regards,

Mark.


#464 From: "mark969davis" <mark969davis@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:45 am
Subject: Dates for 2010
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Hi All,

Are we happy to stick with 4 weekends, of do we want to go back to 5? If we are
happy with 4, then using the rota Chris supplied, Cambridge will be resting and
Saltby will be covering the reserve (as Dunstable was down as reserve in 2009).
If we stick to the same weekends as last year this is the first pass at the
fixture list:

1/2/3rd May       Hus Bos
15/16th May       Four counties/Cranwell (captains please confirm)
5/6th June        Four counties/Cranwell (captains please confirm)
19/20th June      Dunstable (happy to swap dates if necessary)
3/4th or 10/11th July   Saltby (reserve weekend if required)

Regards,

Mark.

#463 From: "Luton, Christopher" <chto@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:12 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Interclub 2010
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I guess I should add my bit – as I will probably continue as team captain for HUS into 2010.

 

I have slight concerns with the one year dispensation (for novices, etc) that we were simply trying to fit circumstances (lack of novices, etc) into a workable short term solution, but that said, we should try it out for the season and, as Julian rightly suggests, let’s try to work towards some type of continuity!

 

Delving back into the original setting up of the Interclub for which Brian Spreckley (believe it or not!!) played quite a part, it was aimed more at progressing the starters and middle level pilots in a friendly but competitive event. Clearly all clubs are different with – as Russell points out – bigger clubs having more pundits, whereas some clubs attract more of a novice element such as Cranwell with its student links, etc.

 

Haven’t even checked the dates fully yet, but could I suggest as usual HUS offer the 3-day Bank holiday event (1-3 May) which always seems to be a success (and I don’t mean the flying success with the old rules at the beginning of 2009!).

 

Cheers  

 

Chris

 

From: East_Mids_ICL@... [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of Chris Davison
Sent: 19 November 2009 13:54
To: East_Mids_ICL@...
Subject: Re: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010

 

 


Re the 'miss a week rota' here is what was agreed in 2007.  So 2010 is Gransden's turn to miss a week

Chris

 

Use of 'Reserve Weekend':

We have agreed that 5 weekends is the maximum number to run interclub weekends on.  When we have more than 5 clubs wishing to host a weekend then the following clubs will pencil in a reserve weekend, only to be used if 3 or less scoring days have been completed by the end of the third I/C weekend.  The date of the reserve weekend is to be agreed at the start of the season along with all the other weekends.  ( Clubs / years were decided by drawing names from a hat at the Captain's meeting)


2007 Dunstable

        2008 Saltby

        2009 Cranwell

        2010 Gransden

        2011 Four Counties

        2012 Hus Bos




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Hi all,

Re dates: I believe that it is Cambridge's year to have a rest. Having said that I can't find any documentation to proove it! I know it was what I was told when I took over as ICL rep from Colin Cownden.

Re rules: I would like to keep what we have and agree with Russell's comments. In either case I would like them fixed earlier than last time as I had pilots in place and then the rules started changing again!

All the best,

Julian

--- In East_Mids_ICL@..., "Russell Cheetham" <russellcheetham@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
> I would not have thought that we have really tried out the NEW rules as
> yet as we had the spectacularly unsuccessful 10% pundit rule blighting
> the early season.
> Mark - I dont understand your point about the small pundit pool as
> anyone can be a pundit? - the new regs sought to limit the novice and
> intermediate pool for supposed benefit but can never limit the pundit
> pool!
> Cheers
> Russell
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: East_Mids_ICL@...
> [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
> Sent: 19 November 2009 11:34
> To: East_Mids_ICL@...
> Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010
>
>
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Sorry none of us has replied earlier but I guess none of us bothers to
> look at the message board untill November. Anyway, welcome aboard!
>
> RULES:
>
> With regard to the current 'rules', we experimented with some changes
> last year to balance the classes and help encourage participation. The
> final version was thus:
>
> Novice - a pilot who has not flown a UK 300km in UK as P1 in any year
> except the current and previous year, has not entered more than 1
> Regional's(Junior Championship excepted), and has not flown a UK 500km
> as P1
>
> Intermediate - a pilot who has not flown a 750km in UK as P1 and has not
> achieved a top 50% position in any Nationals last ten years
>
> Pundit - anyone can be a pundit
>
> So in short if a pilot flew his first 300km and/or participated in his
> fist regionals in 2009, he is still a novice for 2010. Anyone who has
> flown a 300km before 2009 and has participated in more than one
> regionals is an intermediate unless they have finished in the top 50% of
> a nationals in the last 10 years or have flown a 750km in which case
> they are a pundit.
>
> I would however like to open the question to all captains whether they
> feel these rules were sucessfull and whether they need any tweeking? My
> only concern is that the top 50% of nationals leaves the pool of pundits
> rather small and could be opened up to 75%. Comments please!
>
> I'm not sure if we have this formally documented along with the other
> rules regarding scoring, etc. If we have could somebody perhaps let me
> know, if not I would be happy to put it together.
>
> DATES:
>
> On dates we decided last year to have four weekends with one reserve to
> be envoked if we had less than two scoring weekends. I'm not sure which
> club is due a 'rest' this year but I do know Dunstable should be hosting
> a weekend. The dates we have generally held to over recent years
> (adjusted for 2010) have been
>
> 1st-3rd May
> 15th/16th May
> 5th/6th June
> 19th/20th June
> 3rd/4th or 10th/11th July (Reserve)
>
> Perhaps team captains could propose which dates they can do, or
> alternatives if these aren't suitable. For Dunstable we are flexible,
> but I would prefer the 19th/20th June or if not the 5th/6th June.
>
> Hope this starts the ball rolling for 2010. Look forward to your
> replies.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Davis
> LGC Team Captain.
>
> --- In East_Mids_ICL@...
> <mailto:East_Mids_ICL%40yahoogroups.co.uk> , "andrew28t@"
> <andrew@> wrote:
> >
> > Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby
> interclub duties from Sarah.
> >
> > Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current
> interclub "rules" and when dates and locations for next season are
> likely to be discussed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrew Cluskey
> >
>





 

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#462 From: "mark969davis" <mark969davis@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: Interclub 2010
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Thanks Julian,

Does anybody know/remember the rota that was agreed regarding who is 'resting'
each year? If so can they post it so that we have it for future reference.

Thanks,

Mark.

--- In East_Mids_ICL@..., "jay220861" <julianbane@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Re dates: I believe that it is Cambridge's year to have a rest. Having said
that I can't find any documentation to proove it! I know it was what I was told
when I took over as ICL rep from Colin Cownden.
>
> Re rules: I would like to keep what we have and agree with Russell's comments.
In either case I would like them fixed earlier than last time as I had pilots in
place and then the rules started changing again!
>
> All the best,
>
> Julian
>
> --- In East_Mids_ICL@..., "Russell Cheetham" <russellcheetham@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone
> > I would not have thought that we have really tried out the NEW rules as
> > yet as we had the spectacularly unsuccessful 10% pundit rule blighting
> > the early season.
> > Mark - I dont understand your point about the small pundit pool as
> > anyone can be a pundit? - the new regs sought to limit the novice and
> > intermediate pool for supposed benefit but can never limit the pundit
> > pool!
> > Cheers
> > Russell
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: East_Mids_ICL@...
> > [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
> > Sent: 19 November 2009 11:34
> > To: East_Mids_ICL@...
> > Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Sorry none of us has replied earlier but I guess none of us bothers to
> > look at the message board untill November. Anyway, welcome aboard!
> >
> > RULES:
> >
> > With regard to the current 'rules', we experimented with some changes
> > last year to balance the classes and help encourage participation. The
> > final version was thus:
> >
> > Novice - a pilot who has not flown a UK 300km in UK as P1 in any year
> > except the current and previous year, has not entered more than 1
> > Regional's(Junior Championship excepted), and has not flown a UK 500km
> > as P1
> >
> > Intermediate - a pilot who has not flown a 750km in UK as P1 and has not
> > achieved a top 50% position in any Nationals last ten years
> >
> > Pundit - anyone can be a pundit
> >
> > So in short if a pilot flew his first 300km and/or participated in his
> > fist regionals in 2009, he is still a novice for 2010. Anyone who has
> > flown a 300km before 2009 and has participated in more than one
> > regionals is an intermediate unless they have finished in the top 50% of
> > a nationals in the last 10 years or have flown a 750km in which case
> > they are a pundit.
> >
> > I would however like to open the question to all captains whether they
> > feel these rules were sucessfull and whether they need any tweeking? My
> > only concern is that the top 50% of nationals leaves the pool of pundits
> > rather small and could be opened up to 75%. Comments please!
> >
> > I'm not sure if we have this formally documented along with the other
> > rules regarding scoring, etc. If we have could somebody perhaps let me
> > know, if not I would be happy to put it together.
> >
> > DATES:
> >
> > On dates we decided last year to have four weekends with one reserve to
> > be envoked if we had less than two scoring weekends. I'm not sure which
> > club is due a 'rest' this year but I do know Dunstable should be hosting
> > a weekend. The dates we have generally held to over recent years
> > (adjusted for 2010) have been
> >
> > 1st-3rd May
> > 15th/16th May
> > 5th/6th June
> > 19th/20th June
> > 3rd/4th or 10th/11th July (Reserve)
> >
> > Perhaps team captains could propose which dates they can do, or
> > alternatives if these aren't suitable. For Dunstable we are flexible,
> > but I would prefer the 19th/20th June or if not the 5th/6th June.
> >
> > Hope this starts the ball rolling for 2010. Look forward to your
> > replies.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark Davis
> > LGC Team Captain.
> >
> > --- In East_Mids_ICL@...
> > <mailto:East_Mids_ICL%40yahoogroups.co.uk> , "andrew28t@"
> > <andrew@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby
> > interclub duties from Sarah.
> > >
> > > Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current
> > interclub "rules" and when dates and locations for next season are
> > likely to be discussed.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andrew Cluskey
> > >
> >
>

#461 From: "Russell Cheetham" <russellcheetham@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:10 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Interclub 2010
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Hi Mark
Understood - I wish we had the same distribution as you do - much healthier long term - it appears different clubs have vastly different mixes - the new rules certainly suit us with many pundits and very few novices and intermediates so its easier for us to ensure that full teams turn out.
When we checked our pundit list compiled by the old criteria, 2/3 of them remained pundits by the new criteria so suggest its about right for our clubs mix?
However, it is appreciated that if a club has a shortage of pundits whether actual or due to lack of wish to participate, then putting Intermediates in to fill will inevitably weaken the team.
??????
Regards
Russell


From: East_Mids_ICL@... [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
Sent: 19 November 2009 13:38
To: East_Mids_ICL@...
Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010

 

Hi Russell,

I realise anyone can be a pundit, but my point was that some of the smaller clubs may not have any pilots that fall into the pundit category and so will always be having to have intermediates flying as pundits. I am not saying anything was wrong with the post HusBos rules, only was everybody happy with them and was any tinkering required i.e. did we need to widen the pundit criteria slightly?

We had 3/4 of a season with the new regs is everyone happy with them to be carried forward for the 2010 season? comments please.

Regards,

Mark.

--- In East_Mids_ICL@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Russell Cheetham" <russellcheetham@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
> I would not have thought that we have really tried out the NEW rules as
> yet as we had the spectacularly unsuccessful 10% pundit rule blighting
> the early season.
> Mark - I dont understand your point about the small pundit pool as
> anyone can be a pundit? - the new regs sought to limit the novice and
> intermediate pool for supposed benefit but can never limit the pundit
> pool!
> Cheers
> Russell
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: East_Mids_ICL@yahoogroups.co.uk
> [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@yahoogroups.co.uk] On Behalf Of mark969davis
> Sent: 19 November 2009 11:34
> To: East_Mids_ICL@yahoogroups.co.uk
> Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010
>
>
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Sorry none of us has replied earlier but I guess none of us bothers to
> look at the message board untill November. Anyway, welcome aboard!
>
> RULES:
>
> With regard to the current 'rules', we experimented with some changes
> last year to balance the classes and help encourage participation. The
> final version was thus:
>
> Novice - a pilot who has not flown a UK 300km in UK as P1 in any year
> except the current and previous year, has not entered more than 1
> Regional's(Junior Championship excepted), and has not flown a UK 500km
> as P1
>
> Intermediate - a pilot who has not flown a 750km in UK as P1 and has not
> achieved a top 50% position in any Nationals last ten years
>
> Pundit - anyone can be a pundit
>
> So in short if a pilot flew his first 300km and/or participated in his
> fist regionals in 2009, he is still a novice for 2010. Anyone who has
> flown a 300km before 2009 and has participated in more than one
> regionals is an intermediate unless they have finished in the top 50% of
> a nationals in the last 10 years or have flown a 750km in which case
> they are a pundit.
>
> I would however like to open the question to all captains whether they
> feel these rules were sucessfull and whether they need any tweeking? My
> only concern is that the top 50% of nationals leaves the pool of pundits
> rather small and could be opened up to 75%. Comments please!
>
> I'm not sure if we have this formally documented along with the other
> rules regarding scoring, etc. If we have could somebody perhaps let me
> know, if not I would be happy to put it together.
>
> DATES:
>
> On dates we decided last year to have four weekends with one reserve to
> be envoked if we had less than two scoring weekends. I'm not sure which
> club is due a 'rest' this year but I do know Dunstable should be hosting
> a weekend. The dates we have generally held to over recent years
> (adjusted for 2010) have been
>
> 1st-3rd May
> 15th/16th May
> 5th/6th June
> 19th/20th June
> 3rd/4th or 10th/11th July (Reserve)
>
> Perhaps team captains could propose which dates they can do, or
> alternatives if these aren't suitable. For Dunstable we are flexible,
> but I would prefer the 19th/20th June or if not the 5th/6th June.
>
> Hope this starts the ball rolling for 2010. Look forward to your
> replies.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Davis
> LGC Team Captain.
>
> --- In East_Mids_ICL@yahoogroups.co.uk
> <mailto:East_Mids_ICL%40yahoogroups.co.uk> , "andrew28t@"
> <andrew@> wrote:
> >
> > Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby
> interclub duties from Sarah.
> >
> > Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current
> interclub "rules" and when dates and locations for next season are
> likely to be discussed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrew Cluskey
> >
>


#460 From: Chris Davison <chris_davison@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Interclub 2010
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Re the 'miss a week rota' here is what was agreed in 2007.  So 2010 is Gransden's turn to miss a week

Chris


Use of 'Reserve Weekend':

We have agreed that 5 weekends is the maximum number to run interclub weekends on.  When we have more than 5 clubs wishing to host a weekend then the following clubs will pencil in a reserve weekend, only to be used if 3 or less scoring days have been completed by the end of the third I/C weekend.  The date of the reserve weekend is to be agreed at the start of the season along with all the other weekends.  ( Clubs / years were decided by drawing names from a hat at the Captain's meeting)


2007 Dunstable

        2008 Saltby

        2009 Cranwell

        2010 Gransden

        2011 Four Counties

        2012 Hus Bos




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"jay220861" <julianbane@...>
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19/11/2009 13:20

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East_Mids_ICL@...

To
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Hi all,

Re dates: I believe that it is Cambridge's year to have a rest. Having said that I can't find any documentation to proove it! I know it was what I was told when I took over as ICL rep from Colin Cownden.

Re rules: I would like to keep what we have and agree with Russell's comments. In either case I would like them fixed earlier than last time as I had pilots in place and then the rules started changing again!

All the best,

Julian

--- In
East_Mids_ICL@..., "Russell Cheetham" <russellcheetham@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
> I would not have thought that we have really tried out the NEW rules as
> yet as we had the spectacularly unsuccessful 10% pundit rule blighting
> the early season.
> Mark - I dont understand your point about the small pundit pool as
> anyone can be a pundit? - the new regs sought to limit the novice and
> intermediate pool for supposed benefit but can never limit the pundit
> pool!
> Cheers
> Russell
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:
East_Mids_ICL@...
> [mailto:
East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
> Sent: 19 November 2009 11:34
> To:
East_Mids_ICL@...
> Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010
>
>
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Sorry none of us has replied earlier but I guess none of us bothers to
> look at the message board untill November. Anyway, welcome aboard!
>
> RULES:
>
> With regard to the current 'rules', we experimented with some changes
> last year to balance the classes and help encourage participation. The
> final version was thus:
>
> Novice - a pilot who has not flown a UK 300km in UK as P1 in any year
> except the current and previous year, has not entered more than 1
> Regional's(Junior Championship excepted), and has not flown a UK 500km
> as P1
>
> Intermediate - a pilot who has not flown a 750km in UK as P1 and has not
> achieved a top 50% position in any Nationals last ten years
>
> Pundit - anyone can be a pundit
>
> So in short if a pilot flew his first 300km and/or participated in his
> fist regionals in 2009, he is still a novice for 2010. Anyone who has
> flown a 300km before 2009 and has participated in more than one
> regionals is an intermediate unless they have finished in the top 50% of
> a nationals in the last 10 years or have flown a 750km in which case
> they are a pundit.
>
> I would however like to open the question to all captains whether they
> feel these rules were sucessfull and whether they need any tweeking? My
> only concern is that the top 50% of nationals leaves the pool of pundits
> rather small and could be opened up to 75%. Comments please!
>
> I'm not sure if we have this formally documented along with the other
> rules regarding scoring, etc. If we have could somebody perhaps let me
> know, if not I would be happy to put it together.
>
> DATES:
>
> On dates we decided last year to have four weekends with one reserve to
> be envoked if we had less than two scoring weekends. I'm not sure which
> club is due a 'rest' this year but I do know Dunstable should be hosting
> a weekend. The dates we have generally held to over recent years
> (adjusted for 2010) have been
>
> 1st-3rd May
> 15th/16th May
> 5th/6th June
> 19th/20th June
> 3rd/4th or 10th/11th July (Reserve)
>
> Perhaps team captains could propose which dates they can do, or
> alternatives if these aren't suitable. For Dunstable we are flexible,
> but I would prefer the 19th/20th June or if not the 5th/6th June.
>
> Hope this starts the ball rolling for 2010. Look forward to your
> replies.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Davis
> LGC Team Captain.
>
> --- In
East_Mids_ICL@...
> <
mailto:East_Mids_ICL%40yahoogroups.co.uk> , "andrew28t@"
> <andrew@> wrote:
> >
> > Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby
> interclub duties from Sarah.
> >
> > Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current
> interclub "rules" and when dates and locations for next season are
> likely to be discussed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrew Cluskey
> >
>








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#459 From: "mark969davis" <mark969davis@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: Interclub 2010
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Hi Russell,

I realise anyone can be a pundit, but my point was that some of the smaller
clubs may not have any pilots that fall into the pundit category and so will
always be having to have intermediates flying as pundits. I am not saying
anything was wrong with the post HusBos rules, only was everybody happy with
them and was any tinkering required i.e. did we need to widen the pundit
criteria slightly?

We had 3/4 of a season with the new regs is everyone happy with them to be
carried forward for the 2010 season? comments please.

Regards,

Mark.

--- In East_Mids_ICL@..., "Russell Cheetham" <russellcheetham@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
> I would not have thought that we have really tried out the NEW rules as
> yet as we had the spectacularly unsuccessful 10% pundit rule blighting
> the early season.
> Mark - I dont understand your point about the small pundit pool as
> anyone can be a pundit? - the new regs sought to limit the novice and
> intermediate pool for supposed benefit but can never limit the pundit
> pool!
> Cheers
> Russell
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: East_Mids_ICL@...
> [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
> Sent: 19 November 2009 11:34
> To: East_Mids_ICL@...
> Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010
>
>
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Sorry none of us has replied earlier but I guess none of us bothers to
> look at the message board untill November. Anyway, welcome aboard!
>
> RULES:
>
> With regard to the current 'rules', we experimented with some changes
> last year to balance the classes and help encourage participation. The
> final version was thus:
>
> Novice - a pilot who has not flown a UK 300km in UK as P1 in any year
> except the current and previous year, has not entered more than 1
> Regional's(Junior Championship excepted), and has not flown a UK 500km
> as P1
>
> Intermediate - a pilot who has not flown a 750km in UK as P1 and has not
> achieved a top 50% position in any Nationals last ten years
>
> Pundit - anyone can be a pundit
>
> So in short if a pilot flew his first 300km and/or participated in his
> fist regionals in 2009, he is still a novice for 2010. Anyone who has
> flown a 300km before 2009 and has participated in more than one
> regionals is an intermediate unless they have finished in the top 50% of
> a nationals in the last 10 years or have flown a 750km in which case
> they are a pundit.
>
> I would however like to open the question to all captains whether they
> feel these rules were sucessfull and whether they need any tweeking? My
> only concern is that the top 50% of nationals leaves the pool of pundits
> rather small and could be opened up to 75%. Comments please!
>
> I'm not sure if we have this formally documented along with the other
> rules regarding scoring, etc. If we have could somebody perhaps let me
> know, if not I would be happy to put it together.
>
> DATES:
>
> On dates we decided last year to have four weekends with one reserve to
> be envoked if we had less than two scoring weekends. I'm not sure which
> club is due a 'rest' this year but I do know Dunstable should be hosting
> a weekend. The dates we have generally held to over recent years
> (adjusted for 2010) have been
>
> 1st-3rd May
> 15th/16th May
> 5th/6th June
> 19th/20th June
> 3rd/4th or 10th/11th July (Reserve)
>
> Perhaps team captains could propose which dates they can do, or
> alternatives if these aren't suitable. For Dunstable we are flexible,
> but I would prefer the 19th/20th June or if not the 5th/6th June.
>
> Hope this starts the ball rolling for 2010. Look forward to your
> replies.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Davis
> LGC Team Captain.
>
> --- In East_Mids_ICL@...
> <mailto:East_Mids_ICL%40yahoogroups.co.uk> , "andrew28t@"
> <andrew@> wrote:
> >
> > Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby
> interclub duties from Sarah.
> >
> > Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current
> interclub "rules" and when dates and locations for next season are
> likely to be discussed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrew Cluskey
> >
>

#458 From: "jay220861" <julianbane@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: Interclub 2010
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Hi all,

Re dates: I believe that it is Cambridge's year to have a rest. Having said that
I can't find any documentation to proove it! I know it was what I was told when
I took over as ICL rep from Colin Cownden.

Re rules: I would like to keep what we have and agree with Russell's comments.
In either case I would like them fixed earlier than last time as I had pilots in
place and then the rules started changing again!

All the best,

Julian

--- In East_Mids_ICL@..., "Russell Cheetham" <russellcheetham@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
> I would not have thought that we have really tried out the NEW rules as
> yet as we had the spectacularly unsuccessful 10% pundit rule blighting
> the early season.
> Mark - I dont understand your point about the small pundit pool as
> anyone can be a pundit? - the new regs sought to limit the novice and
> intermediate pool for supposed benefit but can never limit the pundit
> pool!
> Cheers
> Russell
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: East_Mids_ICL@...
> [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
> Sent: 19 November 2009 11:34
> To: East_Mids_ICL@...
> Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010
>
>
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Sorry none of us has replied earlier but I guess none of us bothers to
> look at the message board untill November. Anyway, welcome aboard!
>
> RULES:
>
> With regard to the current 'rules', we experimented with some changes
> last year to balance the classes and help encourage participation. The
> final version was thus:
>
> Novice - a pilot who has not flown a UK 300km in UK as P1 in any year
> except the current and previous year, has not entered more than 1
> Regional's(Junior Championship excepted), and has not flown a UK 500km
> as P1
>
> Intermediate - a pilot who has not flown a 750km in UK as P1 and has not
> achieved a top 50% position in any Nationals last ten years
>
> Pundit - anyone can be a pundit
>
> So in short if a pilot flew his first 300km and/or participated in his
> fist regionals in 2009, he is still a novice for 2010. Anyone who has
> flown a 300km before 2009 and has participated in more than one
> regionals is an intermediate unless they have finished in the top 50% of
> a nationals in the last 10 years or have flown a 750km in which case
> they are a pundit.
>
> I would however like to open the question to all captains whether they
> feel these rules were sucessfull and whether they need any tweeking? My
> only concern is that the top 50% of nationals leaves the pool of pundits
> rather small and could be opened up to 75%. Comments please!
>
> I'm not sure if we have this formally documented along with the other
> rules regarding scoring, etc. If we have could somebody perhaps let me
> know, if not I would be happy to put it together.
>
> DATES:
>
> On dates we decided last year to have four weekends with one reserve to
> be envoked if we had less than two scoring weekends. I'm not sure which
> club is due a 'rest' this year but I do know Dunstable should be hosting
> a weekend. The dates we have generally held to over recent years
> (adjusted for 2010) have been
>
> 1st-3rd May
> 15th/16th May
> 5th/6th June
> 19th/20th June
> 3rd/4th or 10th/11th July (Reserve)
>
> Perhaps team captains could propose which dates they can do, or
> alternatives if these aren't suitable. For Dunstable we are flexible,
> but I would prefer the 19th/20th June or if not the 5th/6th June.
>
> Hope this starts the ball rolling for 2010. Look forward to your
> replies.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Davis
> LGC Team Captain.
>
> --- In East_Mids_ICL@...
> <mailto:East_Mids_ICL%40yahoogroups.co.uk> , "andrew28t@"
> <andrew@> wrote:
> >
> > Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby
> interclub duties from Sarah.
> >
> > Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current
> interclub "rules" and when dates and locations for next season are
> likely to be discussed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrew Cluskey
> >
>

#457 From: "Russell Cheetham" <russellcheetham@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:38 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Interclub 2010
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Hi everyone
I would not have thought that we have really tried out the NEW rules as yet as we had the spectacularly unsuccessful 10% pundit rule blighting the early season.
Mark - I dont understand your point about the small pundit pool as anyone can be a pundit? - the new regs sought to limit the novice and intermediate pool for supposed benefit but can never limit the pundit pool!
Cheers
Russell
 
 


From: East_Mids_ICL@... [mailto:East_Mids_ICL@...] On Behalf Of mark969davis
Sent: 19 November 2009 11:34
To: East_Mids_ICL@...
Subject: [East_Mids_ICL] Re: Interclub 2010

 

Hi Andrew,

Sorry none of us has replied earlier but I guess none of us bothers to look at the message board untill November. Anyway, welcome aboard!

RULES:

With regard to the current 'rules', we experimented with some changes last year to balance the classes and help encourage participation. The final version was thus:

Novice - a pilot who has not flown a UK 300km in UK as P1 in any year except the current and previous year, has not entered more than 1 Regional's(Junior Championship excepted), and has not flown a UK 500km as P1

Intermediate - a pilot who has not flown a 750km in UK as P1 and has not achieved a top 50% position in any Nationals last ten years

Pundit - anyone can be a pundit

So in short if a pilot flew his first 300km and/or participated in his fist regionals in 2009, he is still a novice for 2010. Anyone who has flown a 300km before 2009 and has participated in more than one regionals is an intermediate unless they have finished in the top 50% of a nationals in the last 10 years or have flown a 750km in which case they are a pundit.

I would however like to open the question to all captains whether they feel these rules were sucessfull and whether they need any tweeking? My only concern is that the top 50% of nationals leaves the pool of pundits rather small and could be opened up to 75%. Comments please!

I'm not sure if we have this formally documented along with the other rules regarding scoring, etc. If we have could somebody perhaps let me know, if not I would be happy to put it together.

DATES:

On dates we decided last year to have four weekends with one reserve to be envoked if we had less than two scoring weekends. I'm not sure which club is due a 'rest' this year but I do know Dunstable should be hosting a weekend. The dates we have generally held to over recent years (adjusted for 2010) have been

1st-3rd May
15th/16th May
5th/6th June
19th/20th June
3rd/4th or 10th/11th July (Reserve)

Perhaps team captains could propose which dates they can do, or alternatives if these aren't suitable. For Dunstable we are flexible, but I would prefer the 19th/20th June or if not the 5th/6th June.

Hope this starts the ball rolling for 2010. Look forward to your replies.

Regards,

Mark Davis
LGC Team Captain.

--- In East_Mids_ICL@yahoogroups.co.uk, "andrew28t@..." <andrew@...> wrote:
>
> Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby interclub duties from Sarah.
>
> Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current interclub "rules" and when dates and locations for next season are likely to be discussed.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew Cluskey
>


#456 From: "mark969davis" <mark969davis@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:34 am
Subject: Re: Interclub 2010
mark969davis
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Hi Andrew,

Sorry none of us has replied earlier but I guess none of us bothers to look at
the message board untill November. Anyway, welcome aboard!

RULES:

With regard to the current 'rules', we experimented with some changes last year
to balance the classes and help encourage participation. The final version was
thus:

Novice - a pilot who has not flown a UK 300km in UK as P1 in any year except the
current and  previous year, has not entered more than 1 Regional's(Junior
Championship excepted), and has not flown a UK 500km as P1

Intermediate - a pilot who has not flown a 750km in UK as P1 and has not
achieved a top 50% position in any Nationals last ten years

Pundit - anyone can be a pundit

So in short if a pilot flew his first 300km and/or participated in his fist
regionals in 2009, he is still a novice for 2010. Anyone who has flown a 300km
before 2009 and has participated in more than one regionals is an intermediate
unless they have finished in the top 50% of a nationals in the last 10 years or
have flown a 750km in which case they are a pundit.

I would however like to open the question to all captains whether they feel
these rules were sucessfull and whether they need any tweeking? My only concern
is that the top 50% of nationals leaves the pool of pundits rather small and
could be opened up to 75%. Comments please!

I'm not sure if we have this formally documented along with the other rules
regarding scoring, etc. If we have could somebody perhaps let me know, if not I
would be happy to put it together.

DATES:

On dates we decided last year to have four weekends with one reserve to be
envoked if we had less than two scoring weekends. I'm not sure which club is due
a 'rest' this year but I do know Dunstable should be hosting a weekend. The
dates we have generally held to over recent years (adjusted for 2010) have been

1st-3rd May
15th/16th May
5th/6th June
19th/20th June
3rd/4th or 10th/11th July (Reserve)

Perhaps team captains could propose which dates they can do, or alternatives if
these aren't suitable. For Dunstable we are flexible, but I would prefer the
19th/20th June or if not the 5th/6th June.

Hope this starts the ball rolling for 2010. Look forward to your replies.

Regards,

Mark Davis
LGC Team Captain.




--- In East_Mids_ICL@..., "andrew28t@..." <andrew@...> wrote:
>
> Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby interclub duties
from Sarah.
>
> Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current interclub
"rules"  and when dates and locations for next season are likely to be
discussed.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew Cluskey
>

#455 From: "andrew28t@..." <andrew@...>
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:11 pm
Subject: Interclub 2010
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Just a note to let you know that I have taken over the Saltby interclub duties
from Sarah.

Can anyone let me know where I might find a copy of the current interclub
"rules"  and when dates and locations for next season are likely to be
discussed.

Thanks

Andrew Cluskey

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