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Re: [Glaucus] Re: Foraging

I think this should read "man has always done this and will go on
doing this for as long as there are species on the shore to collect."

Shore foraging cannot continue unabated. Many species are in serious
decline. Populations of inter-tidal molluscs have been over exploited
in many areas.

One factor to cause this over-exploitation has been the remarkable
growth in the human population.

According to a UK government paper in 1377 the English population was
estimated at 2.2 to 3.1 million people. This grew to 5.74 million in
1750. The first official census was held in 1801 and the population
for England was 8.3 million. The total UK population was 10.5
million. By 1851 the UK population had grown to 16.8 million and to
30.5 million by 1901. In July 2008 the UK population was estimated at
60.9 million. Shore gathering was probably sustainable for millennia
but with so many visitors to the shore now even if they individually
collect much less than their ancestors their sheer numbers can easily
decimate the shore of marine life.

In Guernsey I have seen fish collected for marine aquaria; crabs,
molluscs and worms collected for bait, and ormers, topshells and
limpets collected for food.

There are too many people to support too little forage. If we all
take just a little bit there will not be enough to go around.

Best wishes,

Richard

Richard Lord

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http://www.sealordphotography.net

On 8 May 2009, at 14:58, ianmac92 wrote:

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> >I agree with what you say as regards foraging on the sea shore. Man
> has always done this and will go on doing it for as long as he
> exists ! Ian Macleod
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Exercised as I am over the Marine conservation bill and of the access to the coast one I am concerned again about the rights to forage. In a discussion with...
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I think this should read "man has always done this and will go on doing this for as long as there are species on the shore to collect." Shore foraging cannot...
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... I will agree with what you say but, mankind is always making rules for other men to obey, rightly or wrongly. I am an OAP and have spent my life within...
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Hello, In the consultation period we were aked what shore speices have been affected by collection. We stressed commercial collection only and noted the demise...
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But as people could over exploit now and they don't in a lot of areas why should they suddenly start? I have no problem with limiting mechanical harvesting....
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]Well I have done it all my life and I am not stopping doing it until I drop, its as simple as that. Beaurocrats and none fishermen can go and play in their...
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Totally agree with Ian Macs sentiments.   Geedee ... From: ianmac92 <iansndwn@...> Subject: [Glaucus] Re: Foraging To: Glaucus@... Date:...
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