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Hiya,



My reply to a thread on
http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2268235#post2268235



the picture of D. intermedia in the image you have copied is that of a very
immature fish of what we know as the common Skate, the body shape changes to
a slightly less angular shape as they mature.

As according to the PDF Dipturus flossada has a max weight of 30kg so at
that weight D. intermedia (our Common skate) looks nothing like Dipturus
flossada both in body shape & physical features. Also at those sizes our
Common skate has a jet black underside that only fades once the fish passes
around the 50lb mark. So how they could have been thought to be the same
species is a bit of a mystery to me.

So in short from what I can see a "Flapper" skate is what we know to be a
Common skate, which we already know to be critically endangered.





From: Glaucus@... [mailto:Glaucus@...] On Behalf
Of DOUGLAS HERDSON
Sent: 19 November 2009 19:13
To: British Marine Wildlife; Shark-L
Cc: Ali Hood
Subject: [Glaucus] ID Error Leaves Fish at Edge of Extinction





Dear All

The Common Skate of the North East Atlantic is apparently actually two
species.  Both endangered, but which do we get around the British Isles, or
if both what are there relative distributions?

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/11/extinction-error and
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=skate-punkd-taxonomic-oop
s-put-rare-2009-11-18

regards, Doug

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#1124

From: DOUGLAS HERDSON <douglas.herdson@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:12 pm
Subject: ID Error Leaves Fish at Edge of Extinction

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Dear All

The Common Skate of the North East Atlantic is apparently actually two species. 
Both endangered, but which do we get around the British Isles, or if both what
are there relative distributions?

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/11/extinction-error and
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=skate-punkd-taxonomic-oops-pu\
t-rare-2009-11-18
 
regards, Doug

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#1123

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:41 am
Subject: "Sea Urchins II" by Heinke Schultz

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From: "Neumann, Christian" <Christian.Neumann@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:54 AM
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Subject:      "Sea Urchins II" by Heinke Schultz

> Dear all,
>
> I would like to announce Heinke Schultz' new book "Sea Urchins II".
> Following Part 1 (2005), which was devoted to shallow water echinoids,
> Volume 2 covers about 270 species of irregular echinoids from deeper
> waters. Volume 3, which is in preparation, will cover the deep-water
> regular echinoids. More information is available on the author's website:
> http://www.sea-urchins.com/.
>
> Cheers,
> Christian
>
>
>
> Dr. Christian Neumann
> Section Leader of Invertebrate Palaeozoology
> Museum fuer Naturkunde
> Leibniz Institute for Research on Evolution and Biodiversity
> at the Humboldt University Berlin
> Invalidenstrasse 43
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#1122

From: "mosborne59" <mosborne59@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: Sussex nemerteans

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Hi, I'm a 2nd year Biology student, and I'm currently writing an eassay on the
phylum Nemertea. I am including a section on whether any nemerteans have been
found in the sussex area. If anyone knows of any and their whereabouts, or any
papers or articles I can research, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

(sorry about the double message and the typo!)

#1121

From: "mosborne59" <mosborne59@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:27 pm
Subject: Sussex nemerteans

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Hi, I'm a 2nd year Biology student, and I'm currently writing an eassay on the
phylum Nemertea. I am including a section on whether any nemerteans have been
found in the sussex area. If anyone knows of any and there where abouts, or any
papers or articles I can research, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

#1120

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:17 pm
Subject: Images of British Cnidarians

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Hello

Images of British Cnidarians

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1166097@N25/

Cnidarians of the World

http://www.flickr.com/groups/cnidaria/pool/

Sea Anemones

http://www.flickr.com/groups/anenome/pool/

Jellyfish
http://www.flickr.com/groups/beautiful_jellyfish/pool/

Cheers


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#1119

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 4:02 pm
Subject: Protected zones will help to save Britain's marine wildlife

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Protected zones will help to save Britain's marine wildlife

Harmful fishing practices will be banned from UK coastal waters under new
legislation to protect endangered species

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/08/protected-zones-for-marine-wil\
dlife

#1118

From: "O'Neill, David" <doneill@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 6:47 pm
Subject: RE: Forth Oysters

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Is the excitement due to the fact that oysters can survive there or because
there is hope that these two represent a relict population that might recover?

________________________________

From: Glaucus@... on behalf of Andy Horton
Sent: Fri 11/6/2009 10:28 AM
To: GLAUCUS
Subject: [Glaucus] Forth Oysters

Hello,

Dr Liz Ashton, a research fellow at the Institute of Aquaculture in
Stirling, made the discovery while investigating the possibility of
restoring oysters to the river, and gives real hope that there could
eventually be commercial farming of the shellfish.

At its peak, the Firth of Forth oyster fishery produced more than 30 million
oysters a year, but that was in the early 19th century when Charles Darwin
went out with the boats from Newhaven while studying in Edinburgh.
Over-harvesting caused the fishery to collapse by 1920, and surveys of the
Firth of Forth in 1957 reported that oysters were biologically extinct.

http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/12973
<http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/12973>

http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews/11138/extinct-oysters-return-to-forth
<http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews/11138/extinct-oysters-return-to-forth>

cf.
Shoreham Oyster Fishery, Sussex coast
1869 The height of the Oyster fishing industry, with a total fishing fleet
of 295 boats employing 740 men and 89 boys. The oysters, which brought
prosperity to the whole town, were fished out, and by 1913 the fishing fleet
had fallen to 184 boats employing 397 men.

Comment:

Does anybody know how many boats fished the Forth in its heyday?

Cheers

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#1117

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 3:32 pm
Subject: Cornish Blackfish, Schedophilus medusophagus

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Hello,

22 September 2009
A Cornish Blackfish, Schedophilus medusophagus, was caught in in a pelagic
trawl about five miles west of the Mull of Galloway (south-west Scotland)
and was weighed in at Portaferry (Northern Ireland) at 3.5 kg gutted weight.
The vessel which caught the fish was the FV. Ambitious, skipper/owner Eric
Cully.
Original notification from the
Agri-Food and Biosciences Institute (Northern Ireland)
via Richard Lord (Guernsey)
Detailed Report by Alan Mawhinney

Pictures, credits and further information on:

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/News2009Summer.htm#CornishBlackfish

Cheers


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#1116

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 3:28 pm
Subject: Forth Oysters

glaucus25

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Hello,

Dr Liz Ashton, a research fellow at the Institute of Aquaculture in
Stirling, made the discovery while investigating the possibility of
restoring oysters to the river, and gives real hope that there could
eventually be commercial farming of the shellfish.

At its peak, the Firth of Forth oyster fishery produced more than 30 million
oysters a year, but that was in the early 19th century when Charles Darwin
went out with the boats from Newhaven while studying in Edinburgh.
Over-harvesting caused the fishery to collapse by 1920, and surveys of the
Firth of Forth in 1957 reported that oysters were biologically extinct.

http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/12973

http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews/11138/extinct-oysters-return-to-forth

cf.
  Shoreham Oyster Fishery, Sussex coast
1869  The height of the Oyster fishing industry, with a total fishing fleet
of 295 boats employing 740 men and 89 boys. The oysters, which brought
prosperity to the whole town, were fished out, and by 1913 the fishing fleet
had fallen to 184 boats employing 397 men.

Comment:

Does anybody know how many boats fished the Forth in its heyday?

Cheers


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#1115

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Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 11:25 am
Subject: Read the latest issue of Kimmeridge Tidings

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#1114

From: "ifsmith" <ifsmith@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 7:54 pm
Subject: Nemertini, (Ribbon worms)

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Can anyone identify the striped possible Nemertine worm in my album Ian S?
links:
http://tinyurl.com/yfp2ylj
http://tinyurl.com/ykzt5ud
http://tinyurl.com/yktjyom
It has 4 eyes, the 2 on the right are clearest in the image of it extended. In
fact I think they are internal light sensors visible through the translucent
body or at the base of deep pits.
The greyish white foot can be partly seen at the posterior of the twisted image.
Behind the head are two white collars, thin and distinct on the contracted
image, wider and vaguer on the extended one.
I don't know if 6mm is the adult size or if it is a juvenile. And I don't know
if it will be possible to identify it from a picture as I understand that some
species are polymorphic.

For interest I have also uploaded some pictures of a small (0.5 metre) specimen
of Lineus longissimus from Menai and 10 metre specimen from Orkney. Links:
http://tinyurl.com/yjp82dg
http://tinyurl.com/yf3oxds
http://tinyurl.com/yfv78vn
http://tinyurl.com/ycn4h6l  In the picture of two people holding a worm up,
there are 5 metres accounted for by the three drops to the ground and the pieces
running across from hand to hand. There was as much worm again on the ground.
The coiled worm would have filled a very large soup bowl. 10 metres accords with
the specimen "over 30 feet" illustrated full size in the Ray Society "Monograph
of the Worms" by Prof.McIntosh.
Richard Elmhurst, superintendant of Millport Marine Biol Station in the early
20th Century, mentioned specimens over 20 yards (about 20 metres).There is a
claim on the web at:
http://yzuke.blogspot.com/2008/09/longest-things-in-world.html
for a specimen of 180 feet (55 m), making it the World's longest animal. But I
take it with a pinch of salt. Even if true, I guess tape worms of Blue Whales
would be longer. Precise measurement is impossible as it stretches like elastic,
but I think it can make claim to be the longest British animal, if Britain is
defined as land above ELWS.

The other "fisherman's tale" is of it harpooning and swallowing a fish, related
by Charles Kingsley in his book "Glaucus". I have uploaded the extract at:
http://tinyurl.com/y8j93nl
Has anyone else ever witnessed this event?

Best wishes
Ian S








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#1113

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 5:35 pm
Subject: BMLSS Glaucus Archives Lost

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Hello,

With the closure of Smart Groups at the end of November 2006 most of the
7500+ messages were filed at:

                                 Marine Wildlife of the North-east Atlantic
Ocean Jiglu
                                 http://www.Jiglu.com/spaces/glaucus/

However, in November 2009, all these messages were deleted without warning.
                                 Sorry. This was out of my control.

Cheers


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#1112

From: "ifsmith" <ifsmith@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 12:39 pm
Subject: Barnacle revision and album

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Dear All
With my recent upload of Verruca stroemia I included a "juvenile Chthamalus
stellatus".
  Francis Kerckhof contacted me to let me know that it was in fact C. montagui,
and that my previously uploaded pictures of "stellatus" are also C. montagui.

I have relabelled accordingly, and added a picture of the real C. stellatus
(Francis has checked it).

I have also added a few more pictures of Balanus balanus, including a base
plate.

I have renamed my album "Ian Smith" as "Barnacles" and moved my non-barnacle
pictures to a new folder "Ian S".

Here are links to the different spp. I have abbreviated the URL's of Yahoo with
TinyURL.com

Chthamalus montagui
http://tinyurl.com/yg6r3no
http://tinyurl.com/y95l3hc

Chthamalus stellatus
http://tinyurl.com/yj2n9om

Semibalanus balanoides
http://tinyurl.com/ycaqlq4
http://tinyurl.com/yau6txo
http://tinyurl.com/yctdpd7
http://tinyurl.com/yadfag3

Elminius modestus
http://tinyurl.com/yanksjv
http://tinyurl.com/ybwh6yx
http://tinyurl.com/ydr5kzg
http://tinyurl.com/ycwe56u

Balanus crenatus
http://tinyurl.com/yavxaks

Balanus balanus
http://tinyurl.com/ydjg4hu
http://tinyurl.com/y9uxpv4
http://tinyurl.com/ybbawle
http://tinyurl.com/y8nf7nn

Verruca stroemia
http://tinyurl.com/y9t8e25

Types of shore
http://tinyurl.com/yca77gf
http://tinyurl.com/y986kg8
http://tinyurl.com/y9gyjyl
http://tinyurl.com/ybsvo23

I hope they are of some use to others. Many thanks to Francis Kerckhof who has
patiently helped me with the identifications.
Ian S





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#1111

From: "glaucus25" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: barnacle additions

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Hello,

Direct link:

http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/18990861/sn/456531223/name/DSCN3959Verruca+stroemia.\
jpg

I have not looked at the ID details yet. Busy.

Cheers


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--- In Glaucus@..., "ifsmith" <ifsmith@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have added Verruca stroemia to my collection of barnacle photos in album Ian
Smith (If I am in error, I hope Francis or another member will correct me)
>
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/456531223/v\
iew?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
>
> I have also added the following which I hope adds to what I have already
posted on the species:
>
> Chthamalus stellatus juvenile with discernible plates
>
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/1683078537/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
>
> Columnar form of Elminius modestus resulting from crowding
>
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/1262643391/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
>
> Crowded E. modestus covered in silt
>
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/27175620/vi\
ew?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
>
> E. modestus crowded round Mytilus
>
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/382242696/v\
iew?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
>
> Picture of Wirral sea coast, near Liverpool, dominated by Elminius modestus.
>
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/1003233343/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=21&count=20&dir=asc
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#1110

From: "ifsmith" <ifsmith@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:16 pm
Subject: barnacle additions

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I have added Verruca stroemia to my collection of barnacle photos in album Ian
Smith (If I am in error, I hope Francis or another member will correct me)
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/456531223/v\
iew?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

I have also added the following which I hope adds to what I have already posted
on the species:

Chthamalus stellatus juvenile with discernible plates
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/1683078537/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

Columnar form of Elminius modestus resulting from crowding
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/1262643391/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

Crowded E. modestus covered in silt
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/27175620/vi\
ew?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

E. modestus crowded round Mytilus
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/382242696/v\
iew?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

Picture of Wirral sea coast, near Liverpool, dominated by Elminius modestus.
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Glaucus/photos/album/1635988301/pic/1003233343/\
view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=21&count=20&dir=asc

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#1109

From: davy@...
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: Rockling Quiz

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Hiya,

the three of them are Shore Rockling (Gaidropsarus mediterraneus)


Quoting Andy Horton <Glaucus@...>:

> Hello,
>
> Three Rocklings were caught by John Mason off the coast of NW Wales. Can you
> put a name to them from the photographs?
>
> http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Rockling.htm#ID
>
> Or the best guess if the ID features are not visible? They are all small
> fish about the size of Gaidropsarus mediterraneus.
>
> Cheers
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#1108

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:50 am
Subject: Rockling Quiz

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Hello,

Three Rocklings were caught by John Mason off the coast of NW Wales. Can you
put a name to them from the photographs?

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Rockling.htm#ID

Or the best guess if the ID features are not visible? They are all small
fish about the size of Gaidropsarus mediterraneus.

Cheers


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#1107

From: DAVIDJOSEPH MCGRATE <d.mcgrate@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: Common Seal sightings in Sussex rivers.

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A few years ago a Grey Seal made it up the River Wyre (Lancs) and in to the
drainage system ending up some 6 miles inland at the spillway of Marton Mere, a
'semi natural' lake. It was taken to a rescue centre and found be suffering from
a severe lung infectio which was treated successfullly and the animal was
eventually returned to the sea.
 
Dave

--- On Thu, 22/10/09, Stephen <stevep.savage@...> wrote:


From: Stephen <stevep.savage@...>
Subject: [Glaucus] Common Seal sightings in Sussex rivers.
To: Glaucus@...
Date: Thursday, 22 October, 2009, 4:42 PM


 



Hi all

Another common seal sighting in the River Adur in West Sussex. The seal was seen
swimming in the lower estuary area of the river on Saturday 17th October. On
Sunday, a seal (almost certainly the same one) was spotted seen a few miles up
river near Upper Beeding.

I am hoping to obtain photographs of this seal. Looking at the picture that
appeared in the Shoreham Herald it is almost certainly the same seal we have
seen in the past in the nearby River Ouse where it swims many miles up river
above Lewes.

I also received two common seal sightings on 9th October, both also river
sightings. The first was reported on the river Arun near Pulborough (West
Sussex). The second was reported near Alfriston on the River Ouse (East Sussex).
Its not uncommon for common seals to swim up river, especially the Ouse and the
Arun. Its thought that these seals travel up river following fish. Unlike whales
and dolphins, seals are quite happy up river, being able to haul out from time
to time and rarely get into trouble.

A common seal was also seen just outside the Brighton Marina in East Sussex last
Saturday 10th October.

Does anyone have any river sightings of seals in other parts of the UK as I
would be interested to hear about these sightings, thanks.

Steve Savage

Sussex County recorder for Sea Mammals
Sea Watch Foundation Sussex Regional Coordinator
















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#1106

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:52 am
Subject: Re: MARINE LIFE NEWS BULLETIN TORPEDO (October 2009)

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A technical problem has arisen for downloading the Torpedo News Bulletin and
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> Hello,
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> MARINE LIFE NEWS BULLETIN TORPEDO (October 2009)
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#1105

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:21 am
Subject: The 36th World Festival of Underwater Pictures from 29 October to 1st November 2009

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From: "Centre National de la Mer NAUSICAA" <communication@...>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:12 AM

Subject: The 36th World Festival of Underwater Pictures from 29 October to
1st November 2009

The 36th World Festival of Underwater Pictures

at the Palais du Pharo in MARSEILLE

From Thursday 29 October to Sunday 1st November 2009

The 36th World Festival of Underwater Pictures will be held at the Palais du
Pharo in MARSEILLE. More than anything else the Festival is a place where
the sea and its admirers can unite to enjoy a host of prize competitions for
the best of the year's underwater photography and film. This year, the
Festival's Honorary President will be Jacques ROUGERIE, who will present the
Sea Orbiter project recently announced by French President Nicolas SARKOZY
and  Jean-Louis BORLOO, Minister of State, Minister for Ecology, Energy,
Sustainable Development and the Sea.

The Festival's venue : the Palais du Pharo in Marseille

The Palais, which is located at the maritime entrance to the town of
Marseille, has 1,800 square metres of exhibition space, a 900-seat lecture
hall and two film theatres.

Marseille is a long-established centre for diving and with its exceptional
underwater heritage, the town of Marseille is the natural choice for our
Festival. With excellent transport links (TGV, airport...) and accommodation
the 'Phocaean city' has everything to ensure the success of year's event.

Overview of the 2009 Festival

The World Festival of Underwater Pictures is not to be missed for marine
world enthusiasts. Last year, close to 169 films, 400 paper photographs,
1,500 slides, 29 audo-visual productions, 52 books and 40 web sites were
shown or exhibited. Over and above their exceptional quality, these
audio-visual productions, help to promote the undersea world and teach the
general public about its incredible richness, but also about its incredible
fragility.

Every year, the World Festival of Underwater Pictures brings together
visitors, who can't help but fall under the charm of the artwork on show,
competitors from all over the planet, and high quality exhibitors. The
Festival attracts more than 25,000 visitors and, whether they are
professionals, aficionados or just marine world enthusiasts, they all come
to the Festival to marvel at the ocean-artwork of some 1,000 participants
from nearly 58 countries from around the globe. Finally, a wide range of
exhibitors will be present, including : film producers, publishers,
specialist press, tour operators, specialist equipment manufacturers,
associations and diving clubs.

Soon after its creation by Daniel MERCIER in 1974, who named the event «
Journées du Monde Subaquatique » (Underwater World Days), the Festival
became so popular that, as early as 1979, a « tour » was arranged enabling
around fifty towns in France, Europe and around the world to show the
prize-winning films from previous year's Festivals, thus sharing the riches
of the underwater world as widely as possible. In addition, the growing
stock of productions shown at the World Festival of Underwater Pictures,
led, in 2002, to the creation of the « Fondation du Festival ». Its purpose
is to preserve the winning films in good condition, manage copyright and
usage, allow for the creation of Bursaries to support young film-makers and,
using every available resource, to encourage and promote the protection of
the marine environment. Its President is Philippe VALLETTE and its Chief
Representative is Daniel MERCIER.

Jacques ROUGERIE : Honorary President of the 36th World Festival of
Underwater Pictures

This year the Festival's Honorary guest will be Jacques ROUGERIE. Born in
1945 Jacques ROUGERIE is a French architect who derives his inspiration from
the sea and describes himself as a «merrien» (inhabitant of the sea). The
oceans, but also outer space, inspire dreams that he turns into reality. On
the 25 June 2008 he was elected to the Académie des Beaux-Arts' André
WOGENSCKY (1916-2004) Seat. His investiture took place at the Académie's
'Dome' (La Coupole) on 3 June 2009 in the presence of its vice-president,
Roger TAILLIBERT.

On the occasion of the 36th World Festival of Underwater Pictures, he will
present the 'Sea Orbiter' project to festival-goers. Sea Orbiter was
officially launched this summer by Nicolas SARKOZY, President of France, and
Jean-Louis BORLOO, Minister of State, Minister for Ecology, Energy,
Sustainable Development and the Sea.

The Sea Orbiter project at the this year's Festival

Designed by the architect Jacques ROUGERIE, the Sea Orbiter station is a
unique ocean-going vessel. Its technology allows men and women to live in
the heart of the ocean and to navigate by drifting along with the main ocean
currents, making access to the marine world easier and observation and
research possible at all times.

Sea Orbiter is a habitable automated ocean-drifting station. It has a 51m
tall semi-submersible vertical structure with a submersible section of 31m.
It is equipped with oceanographic observational and sonic equipment coupled
with satellite facilities. It will house an international team of 18 people:
10 of whom will live in atmospheric pressure conditions while 8 'aquanauts'
will live in a pressurised zone.

Living under the sea. SeaOrbiter has a multi-level atmospheric pressure
module and a pressurised module. The latter is open undersea, allowing the
aquanauts to live permanently at the heart of the ocean and thus have
immediate access to the marine world. The lock chamber connects with the
atmospheric pressure upper decks housing the crew members responsible for
logistics and for preparing supplies for the aquanauts. Sea Orbiter isn't
the only long-term underwater project. The astronauts involved in the NASA's
NEEMO programme are already preparing long distance manned journeys from
their fixed undersea habitat, Aquarius, located off the coast of Florida.

Prize competition categories

To encourage creativity the World Festival of Underwater Pictures has
decided to give free rein to the imaginations of all participants.
Participants can therefore submit an entry to any one of the following
categories: films (which are split into 2 groups : long and medium length
films or short video (clips) and short films), photographs (portfolio,
colour photos, black and white photos, conchology), audio-visual productions
(artistic or educational slide shows), or even books, music, internet sites,
advertisements, applied arts and design, architecture.

And there are many and various award categories. As well as the Festival's
famous «Palm»,  awards, which are synonymous with any major
cinematographic-undersea-world event, there will be awards from the jury for
the best work in the following special categories: by the general public,
comedy, fiction and the unusual. There will also be awards for the best
young talent so that each generation is able to take part in and enjoy the
Festival's tribute to the Ocean.

Jury Presidents

This year's jury Presidents will include the following personalities:

Frédéric DI MEGLIO, photographer: category: photography

Cathy CHURCH, photographer: category: slides, portfolios, educational slide
shows

Alain BOYER, film-maker: category: films, group B

Krov MENUHIN, diver film-maker: category films, group A

The jurys' Presidents will each be accompanied by a number of personalities
from the underwater world. Leslie LEANEY, for example, will be accompanied
by a delegation of american personalities from the diving world. Bill TODD,
who is currently, amongst other things, Director of NASA's underwater marine
laboratory, Aquarius*, where astronauts, who may one day walk on the moon,
learn to work underwater, will also be present at the Festival.

FURTHER INFORMATION: www.underwater-festival.com
Tel.: 04.93.61.45.45 . Fax.: 04.93.67.34.93 .  E-mail:
info@...

#1104

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:16 am
Subject: MARINE LIFE NEWS BULLETIN TORPEDO (October 2009)

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Hello,

MARINE LIFE NEWS BULLETIN TORPEDO (October 2009)
Issue 157
ISSN 1464-8156

The monthly news bulletin has been sent out to subscribers and should arrive
in subscriber's mail boxes before you receive this message.

If you are a subscriber have not received it, please find a copy of the
bulletin at:
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#1103

From: "Andy Horton" <Glaucus@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:18 am
Subject: New office-bearers for Sea Trout Group

glaucus25

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From: "Fiona Cameron" <fiona@...>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:11 AM
To: <info@...>
Subject: New office-bearers for Sea Trout Group

> Blank
> New office–bearers for Sea Trout Group
>
> The Sea Trout Group is delighted to announce that it has a new Chairman
> and Vice-chairman, following a meeting earlier this month.
>
> The new Chairman is Dr Andy Walker, who is well-known throughout the UK
> and abroad as an expert on sea trout.
>
>
>
> Andy was a fishery biologist at the Government Freshwater Laboratory, at
> Faskally, Pitlochry from 1963 until his retirement in 2005.  The author of
> many research papers and reports, he is perhaps best known since the 1980s
> for studies on sea trout, including controversies surrounding the impacts
> of salmon farming.  Working initially through the West Highland Sea Trout
> and Salmon Group, he was instrumental in setting up the west coast fishery
> trust network and the Shieldaig sea trout trapping research programme.
> Since retirement, he Chaired the first three years of the Tweed Trout and
> Grayling Initiative, now serves on the Working Group of the Moray Firth
> Sea Trout Project, carries out advisory visits for the Wild Trout Trust
> and recently has been invited to join the Board of the Atlantic Salmon
> Trust. He is a widely experienced and accomplished angler, with several
> Scottish caps for trout fishing Internationals and World Championships,
> who has a deep love of wildlife and the countryside.
>
>
>
> The Sea Trout Group’s new Vice-chairman is Anthony Steel, who served as
> the Group’s Chairman from 2002 to 2005.  Anthony is a fanatical fisherman,
> the owner of the Kirkwood beat on the River Annan, where he runs a fishing
> holiday business.  He’s been a Member of the Annan Fishery Board from 1991
> to 2008, on the Council of the Association of Salmon Fishery Boards for
> roughly the same time, and is the Secretary of the Annan’s Fisheries
> Improvement Association.  He founded the National Sea Trout Festival, on
> the Annan, in 1997 and it has been run every 4 years or thereabouts since.
> He writes regularly for magazines,  and also runs the
> www.SalmonSchool.co.uk.
>
> The Sea Trout Group (STG) was formed in 1997 in order to make a concerted
> lobbying effort on behalf of the threatened sea trout stocks of the
> Scottish West Highlands & Islands. The STG is supported by the Salmon &
> Trout Association (S&TA) and Scottish Anglers National Association
> (SANA) – representing some 145 000 fishermen.   It campaigns for the
> protection and restoration of stocks of sea trout and salmon in Scotland,
> particularly in regard to minimising damage caused by marine and
> freshwater aquaculture.
>
>
>
>
>
> For further information please contact Fiona Cameron on 07771 577686,
> fiona@...
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>
>
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#1102

From: "David Fenwick Snr." <davidfenwicksnr@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:26 am
Subject: Re: Dead Porpoise

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Ian / Jonathan,
Thanks very much for your replies; I did think 'trophy' regarding the head
but was appauled to think that heads may be removed on purpose.

Best Wishes,
Dave

David Fenwick
Nr. St. Austell,
Cornwall.

#1101

From: JONATHAN BRAMLEY <jonathan.bramley@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:34 am
Subject: Dead Porpoise

jonathan9085

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David,

In Kent we have had the odd one lose a head to folks wanting a skull as an
exhibit.

Regards
Jon
Kent SeaWatch


 
--- On Thu, 22/10/09, David Fenwick Snr. <davidfenwicksnr@...> wrote:

From: David Fenwick Snr. <davidfenwicksnr@...>
Subject: [Glaucus] Dead Porpoise
To: Glaucus@...
Date: Thursday, 22 October, 2009, 8:38 PM






 





                   Dear Group,

Just come across a young dead porpoise at Par Beach in Cornwall today

(reported it when I got home). The thing is, is that it had its head cut

off.



I have been told by a friend that it's probably been caught by a fishing

boat and had its head chopped off so that it would sink. If this is the case

it makes me wonder if some fishermen are trying to reduce the number of

carcases washed up on beaches, thus reduce the number of recordings.



I am wondering if this is now common practise or not; or if others have come

across similar. I've only found entire animals in the past.



Best Wishes,

Dave



David Fenwick

Nanpean,

Nr. St. Austell,

Cornwall.




























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#1100

From: "Ian" <iansndwn@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: Dead Porpoise

ianmac92

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--- In Glaucus@..., "David Fenwick Snr." <davidfenwicksnr@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Group,
> Just come across a young dead porpoise at Par Beach in Cornwall today
> (reported it when I got home). The thing is, is that it had its head cut
> off.
>
> I have been told by a friend that it's probably been caught by a fishing
> boat and had its head chopped off so that it would sink. If this is the case
> it makes me wonder if some fishermen are trying to reduce the number of
> carcases washed up on beaches, thus reduce the number of recordings.
>
> I am wondering if this is now common practise or not; or if others have come
> across similar. I've only found entire animals in the past.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Dave
>
> David Fenwick
> Nanpean,
> Nr. St. Austell,
> Cornwall.
>
Hi David.  I am a fisherman, I have a fishing boat at Trefor, north Wales.  Now
I or anyone that I know would ever think of harming a porpoise, dolphin or seal
or anything that is warm blooded.  I have never heard of anything being harmed
at all round where I fish from though there is no doubt that it happens.   Ian
Macleod

#1099

From: "David Fenwick Snr." <davidfenwicksnr@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:38 pm
Subject: Dead Porpoise

davidfenwicksnr

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Dear Group,
Just come across a young dead porpoise at Par Beach in Cornwall today
(reported it when I got home). The thing is, is that it had its head cut
off.

I have been told by a friend that it's probably been caught by a fishing
boat and had its head chopped off so that it would sink. If this is the case
it makes me wonder if some fishermen are trying to reduce the number of
carcases washed up on beaches, thus reduce the number of recordings.

I am wondering if this is now common practise or not; or if others have come
across similar. I've only found entire animals in the past.

Best Wishes,
Dave

David Fenwick
Nanpean,
Nr. St. Austell,
Cornwall.

#1098

From: "Ian" <iansndwn@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Common Seal sightings in Sussex rivers.

ianmac92

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--- In Glaucus@..., JONATHAN BRAMLEY <jonathan.bramley@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> in Kent we get them occasionally down to near Maidstone on the Medway, where
they get stopped by a physical barrier at Allington Lock. In the Medway and
Swale estuaries they are present but in low numbers. In the Great Stour which
flows out at Pegwell Bay there is a colony in the upper reaches of the river.
Very occasionally they swim up the Stour to just below Canterbury, where they
get stopped at obstacles near the village of Sturry.
>
> Most of our other rivers like the Dour in Dover are crippled with culverts
which makes access from the sea rather difficult but I have had the odd record
from the marshes in Romney.
>
> Hope this is useful
>
> All the best
> Jon
> Kent SeaWatch
>
> Bramley Associates  Ecological Consultants & Surveyors  01227 750092     07810
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> --- On Thu, 22/10/09, G MOFFAT <gdmoffat@...> wrote:
>
> From: G MOFFAT <gdmoffat@...>
> Subject: Re: [Glaucus] Common Seal sightings in Sussex rivers.
> To: Glaucus@...
> Date: Thursday, 22 October, 2009, 6:23 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>                   I used to live in Northumberland and often saw seals in the
Tweed and Coquet estuaries. In the Coquet there is a barrage not too far from
the mouth to hold back fresh water for extraction so i guess seals would not get
much higher than that. In the Tweed however they have been reported quite far
upstream no doubt following migrating salmonids also there is a large eel
population.
>
>  
>
> George
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 22/10/09, Stephen <stevep.savage@ ntlworld. com> wrote:
>
>
>
> From: Stephen <stevep.savage@ ntlworld. com>
>
> Subject: [Glaucus] Common Seal sightings in Sussex rivers.
>
> To: Glaucus@yahoogroups .co.uk
>
> Date: Thursday, 22 October, 2009, 4:42 PM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> Another common seal sighting in the River Adur in West Sussex. The seal was
seen swimming in the lower estuary area of the river on Saturday 17th October.
On Sunday, a seal (almost certainly the same one) was spotted seen a few miles
up river near Upper Beeding.
>
>
>
> I am hoping to obtain photographs of this seal. Looking at the picture that
appeared in the Shoreham Herald it is almost certainly the same seal we have
seen in the past in the nearby River Ouse where it swims many miles up river
above Lewes.
>
>
>
> I also received two common seal sightings on 9th October, both also river
sightings. The first was reported on the river Arun near Pulborough (West
Sussex). The second was reported near Alfriston on the River Ouse (East Sussex).
Its not uncommon for common seals to swim up river, especially the Ouse and the
Arun. Its thought that these seals travel up river following fish. Unlike whales
and dolphins, seals are quite happy up river, being able to haul out from time
to time and rarely get into trouble.
>
>
>
> A common seal was also seen just outside the Brighton Marina in East Sussex
last Saturday 10th October.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any river sightings of seals in other parts of the UK as I
would be interested to hear about these sightings, thanks.
>
>
>
> Steve Savage
>
>
>
> Sussex County recorder for Sea Mammals
>
> Sea Watch Foundation Sussex Regional Coordinator
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Hi Steve.  We have a lot of seals at Trefor, north Wales, some of them come
round the boats when we are fishing, we see the same ones year after year.  Ian
Macleod
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#1097

From: JONATHAN BRAMLEY <jonathan.bramley@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:50 pm
Subject: Common Seal sightings in Sussex rivers.

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