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Hello,

Is the Angel Shark, Squatina squatina, extinct around the UK ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatina_squatina

In the 1960's it was frequently caught off the Sussex coast in seine nets to
take Grey Mullet (nets now forbidden) and sold as Monkfish. The small shark
with a large mouth (potentially dangerous) was known to feed on Plaice
(stomach contents contained five).

Cheers


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The angel shark used to be caught around Guernsey many years ago - but no more.

Best wishes,

Richard


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On 4 Oct 2010, at 11:26, Andy Horton wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is the Angel Shark, Squatina squatina, extinct around the UK ?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatina_squatina
>
> In the 1960's it was frequently caught off the Sussex coast in seine nets to
> take Grey Mullet (nets now forbidden) and sold as Monkfish. The small shark
> with a large mouth (potentially dangerous) was known to feed on Plaice
> (stomach contents contained five).
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy Horton.
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Hi Andy

The decline of the Angel Shark Squatina squatina in northern European waters has
been catastrophic but has not taken the population to extirpation yet.

It was once relatively common.  The last edition of the Plymouth Marine Fauna,
published in 1957 states - "SQUATINA SQUATINA `Angel Fish'.
"A haul of the trawl in Cawsand Bay (just outside of Plymouth Sound) will
generally yield several specimens; occasionally trawled on other grounds.  Known
locally as Buffon; occasionally Monk Fish."

In the 1970s juvenile specimens were still being caught in the Cawsand area.

By the 1990s the situation had changed and they became exceeding rare.  Since
1998 I have records of eight; the last in July 2010, an adult male caught off
Porthcawl (South Wales), prior to that last September(2009)a young one (37 cm
TL) was caught and released alive during a CEFAS survey in Cardigan Bay in
Wales.

Other than that two are from South Devon, one Newlyn (possibly caught off the
Isles of Scilly), two from Padstow, North Cornwall and one from Mumbles.  So it
seems that the Bristol Channel and Wales may be a last hideout of the species. 
Also I understand that anglers in north Wales and northeast Ireland have been
reporting them for the last few years, about half a dozen last summer.

Regards, Doug

Doug Herdson
Marine Fish Information Services
94 Dunstone View, Plymstock
Plymouth. PL9 8QW
Email: Douglas.Herdson@...
Telephone: +44(0)1752 405155

P.S. I forgot to add that of course from now on records will be scarcer, as
since March 2009 it has been illegal to retain Squatina.  Some fishermen may
report ones they catch and release but market based records will be few and far
between.

Doug

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Hi,
I photographed some bivalves, clinging to the side of a boat on The Isles of
Scilly last week and have no idea what species they are.
Would anyone be able to help me with the identification?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28288748@N03/5088707923/

Many thanks,
Graham

Graham

These are goose barnacles, which are crustaceans (related to crab, shrimp and
lobster etc.) and not bivalves, which are molluscs (oyster, clam, mussel etc.)

See http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Barnacles.htm

Best wishes,

Richard

Richard Lord
Guernsey GY1 1BQ
Great Britain

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http://www.sealordphotography.net



On 17 Oct 2010, at 12:53, grahametherington wrote:

> Hi,
> I photographed some bivalves, clinging to the side of a boat on The Isles of
Scilly last week and have no idea what species they are.
> Would anyone be able to help me with the identification?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28288748@N03/5088707923/
>
> Many thanks,
> Graham
>
>



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These are stalked barnacles belonging to the genus Lepas. They are typical
for flotsam. Most specimens look to me to belong to Lepas anatifera, but
care should be taken for the biggest specimens. They could belong to L.
hilli, but this should be checked with the material at hand. Did you keep
the material?

Best regards,
Guido Rappé
Belgian marine biology working group

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:53 PM, grahametherington
<etherington@...>wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
> I photographed some bivalves, clinging to the side of a boat on The Isles
> of Scilly last week and have no idea what species they are.
> Would anyone be able to help me with the identification?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28288748@N03/5088707923/
>
> Many thanks,
> Graham
>
>
>


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Hey, im doing a little research on Crustaceans in British Waters for a College
mock report. I was just wondering if someone could supply a full list of
crustaceans that can be found in the UK so i can pick the ones i want to talk
about and how they are part of the ecosystems etc.
Thanks
Steve

Hey Steve,
The full list will run into many hundreds if not thousands... Think you
might want to restrict it a bit. Try the Marlin website for a range of
representative species.
HTH
Malcolm


-----Original Message-----
From: Glaucus@... [mailto:Glaucus@...] On Behalf
Of Steve
Sent: 17 October 2010 19:44
To: Glaucus@...
Subject: [Glaucus] British Crustaceans

Hey, im doing a little research on Crustaceans in British Waters for a
College mock report. I was just wondering if someone could supply a full
list of crustaceans that can be found in the UK so i can pick the ones i
want to talk about and how they are part of the ecosystems etc.
Thanks
Steve



------------------------------------

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A good list is supplied in "The Species Directory of Marine Fauna and Flora of
the British Isles and Surrounding Seas" published in 1997.

Howson, C.M.; Picton, B.E. (Ed.) (1997). The species directory of the marine
fauna and flora of the British Isles and surrounding seas. Ulster Museum
Publication, 276. The Ulster Museum: Belfast, UK. ISBN 0-948150-06-8. VI, 508 (+
cd-rom) pp

You can find it in a library or you can get it on CD for £15 from here:

http://www.mcsuk.org/acatalog/Marine_Conservation__British_Marine_Life_13.html

Best wishes,

Richard

Richard Lord
Guernsey GY1 1BQ
Great Britain

fishinfo@...
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http://www.sealordphotography.net



On 17 Oct 2010, at 20:49, Malcom Storey wrote:

> Hey Steve,
> The full list will run into many hundreds if not thousands... Think you
> might want to restrict it a bit. Try the Marlin website for a range of
> representative species.
> HTH
> Malcolm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glaucus@... [mailto:Glaucus@...] On Behalf
> Of Steve
> Sent: 17 October 2010 19:44
> To: Glaucus@...
> Subject: [Glaucus] British Crustaceans
>
> Hey, im doing a little research on Crustaceans in British Waters for a
> College mock report. I was just wondering if someone could supply a full
> list of crustaceans that can be found in the UK so i can pick the ones i
> want to talk about and how they are part of the ecosystems etc.
> Thanks
> Steve
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>



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Hi,
Just to say thank you for the replies I received after my post about the
unidentified crustaceans. It's always nice to put a name to something and even
nicer to find people who want to help you to do it.
Many thanks,
Graham


>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:53 PM, grahametherington
> <etherington@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I photographed some bivalves, clinging to the side of a boat on The Isles
> > of Scilly last week and have no idea what species they are.
> > Would anyone be able to help me with the identification?
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/28288748@N03/5088707923/
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Graham
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hello Graham,

It is always worth examining clumps of Goose Barnacles for any small crabs
and other critters that may be hiding amongst them.

Cheers


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From: "grahametherington" <etherington@...>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:44 AM
To: <Glaucus@...>
Subject: [Glaucus] Re: Unidentified bivalve

> Hi,
> Just to say thank you for the replies I received after my post about the
> unidentified crustaceans. It's always nice to put a name to something and
> even nicer to find people who want to help you to do it.
> Many thanks,
> Graham
>
>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:53 PM, grahametherington
>> <etherington@...>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > I photographed some bivalves, clinging to the side of a boat on The
>> > Isles
>> > of Scilly last week and have no idea what species they are.
>> > Would anyone be able to help me with the identification?
>> >
>> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/28288748@N03/5088707923/
>> >
>> > Many thanks,
>> > Graham
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>

Hello,


Lepas Linnaeus, 1767Lepas
anatifera Linnaeus, 1767Lepas
anserifera Linnaeus, 1767Lepas
fascicularis Ellis & Solander, 1786Lepas
hilli (Leach, 1818)Lepas
pectinata Spengler, 1793

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Barnacles.htm


Lepas hillii

Hayward:  Similar but rarer species than Lepas anatifera distinguished by a
pale collar between the stalk and capitulum (Hayward, green book)

http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=89\
563

http://data.gbif.org/species/13797223/

If anybody has any comparison/contrast photographs I would like to see them.
And of Lepas anserifera (which could be called the Duck Barnacle ???)

Geographic distribution and description of four pelagic barnacles along the
south east Pacific coast of Chile - a zoogeographical
approximation
http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=S0716-078X2006000100002&script=sci_arttext

Cheers


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From: "Guido Rappé" <guido.rappe@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 1:15 PM
To: <Glaucus@...>
Subject: Re: [Glaucus] Unidentified bivalve

> These are stalked barnacles belonging to the genus Lepas. They are typical
> for flotsam. Most specimens look to me to belong to Lepas anatifera, but
> care should be taken for the biggest specimens. They could belong to L.
> hilli, but this should be checked with the material at hand. Did you keep
> the material?
>
> Best regards,
> Guido Rappé
> Belgian marine biology working group
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:53 PM, grahametherington
> <etherington@...>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I photographed some bivalves, clinging to the side of a boat on The Isles
>> of Scilly last week and have no idea what species they are.
>> Would anyone be able to help me with the identification?
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28288748@N03/5088707923/
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Graham
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Hello,

What is the latest opinion on the treatment of

1)  Jellyfish and sea anemone stings
2)  Portuguese Man 'o War stings
3)  Cubozoan (Box Jellyfish) stings

please?

There seems to be conflicting reports.

This page may need to be updated/corrected:

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Moonjell.htm#Treatment of

Cheers


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Hello,

Procedure:

Remove the source of the venom. Cleaning in seawater may not be advised
because of possibility of fragmented tentacles and getting stung again. So
from the practical point of view rinsing in tap water seems the most
practical.  However, what is best if the stinging tentacles are still
adhering to the wound? Vinegar?

The second stage would be reducing pain and shock in the immediate term.
Most (but not cubozoans) are more like a wasp sting and only if there are
multiple stings and the injured party is allergic or in poor health would
any danger be apparent. If the hot water treatment is proven (seems the best
choice on your evidence) how hot should it be? 40°C is about half boiling
water and half cold water.

Common sense (in science this is not necessarily correct) identifies the
lesions as burns and most people would think of ice packs. Inflammation pain
would seen to indicate NSAIDS e.g. aspirin, ibuprofen, diclofenac.

Then it is advised not put a cream on a burn so it is now Doctor's advice.
Hydrocortisone cream has been suggested for the irritation, but sources say
it is useless. Oral prednisone is suggested.

The Snakelocks Anemone is British coastal pools has been responsible for
stings. Pictures at:

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Snakelok.htm#Stinging

I am not a Doctor, so my advice is 'ultra vires' as I am not qualified.
Vinegar (BBC Radio 5) is the most popular treatment. I would eschew this
(?), rinse the wound in water and get to the Doctor if the pain is too
great, and I am inclined to suggest diclofenac in the short term (two days).

First Aid suggestions please?

Cheers


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From: "Angel Yanagihara" <angel@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:16 PM
To: "'Cnidaria Newsgroup'" <cnidaria@...>; "'GLAUCUS'"
<Glaucus@...>
Subject: Re: [Cnidaria] Jellyfish Stings

> Aloha Andy,
>
> Recent clinical studies suggest that heat treatment is best for cubozoan
> stings.
> We first isolated and discovered the cubozoan hemolysin in Carybdea alata
> (now described as Alatina moseri) in 1999.  We initially demonstrated that
> the hemolysin is inactived by heat treatment at 45oC (attached).
>
> I have tested vinegar effects on cnidae from cubozoans, Physalia and
> various
> scyphozoans. Vinegar treatment somewhat impairs subsequent discharge but
> it
> does not "inactivate" the venom itself. The venom is stable at lower pH
> and
> becomes active again (hemolytic, lipolytic) as normal pH is resumed. So it
> may be useful for removing undischarged cnidae and tentacles from the
> wound
> site as well as flushing the wound but the full immersion in hot water is
> best from the standpoint of inactivating the venom hemolysin.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best,
> Angel
>
> ____________________________________
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> Assistant Research Professor
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> and Asia Pacific Inst of Trop Med, JABSOM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cnidaria-bounces@... [mailto:cnidaria-bounces@...] On Behalf
> Of Andy Horton
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:24 AM
> To: GLAUCUS; Cnidaria Newsgroup
> Subject: [Cnidaria] Jellyfish Stings
>
> Hello,
>
> What is the latest opinion on the treatment of
>
> 1)  Jellyfish and sea anemone stings
> 2)  Portuguese Man 'o War stings
> 3)  Cubozoan (Box Jellyfish) stings
>
> please?
>
> There seems to be conflicting reports.
>
> This page may need to be updated/corrected:
>
> http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Moonjell.htm#Treatment of
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Andy Horton.
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A few things I have found of interest on this subject:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20116454
(Particularly interesting about the lack of evidence for various treatments and
the use of lidocaine).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18251731
(Cold vs Heat)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2464643/?tool=pubmed
(UK-specific review)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12492389
(The last sentence)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442242
(Heat not vinegar in at least one species)

A few personal thoughts:
I would have thought washing off with seawater would be definitely better than
tapwater so as not to cause osmotic damage to the nematocysts in case that
stimulates them to fire.  Ice (in a bag not direct) ought to help with pain from
inflammation and by a direct numbing action but use of heat is often suggested
as being able to inactivate the venom (but how many species does that work
for?).  The lidocaine study above is very interesting but it's not exactly what
most people have to hand!
Primarily it'll be general symptomatic treatment - eg Antihistamines and also
steroids if it warrants it.

Coastal saline lagoons and the Water Framework Directive (NECR039)

A number of coastal saline lagoons in the UK have been identified as 'water
bodies' under the Water Framework Directive. This means that there is a
requirement to develop type-based classification tools to help assess their
ecological status. This study was commissioned by Natural England to inform
future work of the UK Technical Advisory Group and Marine Task Team in
developing a national consistent approach to the assessment of lagoons under
the Water Framework Directive.

http://naturalengland.etraderstores.com/NaturalEnglandShop/NECR039

The sustainability of shellfish harvesting and its effects on the reef
habitats within the north east Kent European marine sites (inter-tidal)
(NECR044)

This assesses the impact and sustainability of current levels of shellfish
harvesting on the inter-tidal reef habitats.

http://naturalengland.etraderstores.com/NaturalEnglandShop/NECR044

Marine Protected Areas


Guidance on the size and spacing of Marine Protected Areas in England
(NECR037)


This report reviews existing evidence on adult movements and larval
dispersal distances of species found in our waters; and provides suggestions
on how to maximise connectivity between areas and ensure viability of
individual sites within the Marine Protected Area network. Connectivity and
viability are two of the network design principles we are using to help
deliver an ecologically coherent Marine Protected Area network.

The findings have been used by Natural England and the Joint Nature
Conservation Committee to inform the Ecological Network Guidance for
identifying Marine Conservation Zones.

http://naturalengland.etraderstores.com/NaturalEnglandShop/NECR037


Adopting effective stakeholder engagement processes to deliver regional
Marine Protected Area networks (NECR008)

This report was commissioned by Natural England and the Joint Nature
Conservation Committee to provide an evidence base and advice on effective
stakeholder engagement for the four regional Marine Conservation Zone
projects.

http://naturalengland.etraderstores.com/NaturalEnglandShop/NECR008


Meeting the Marine Protected Area Network Principle of Viability:

Feature specific recommendations for species and habitats of conservation
importance (NECR043)

The Marine and Coastal Access Act 2009 created a new type of Marine
Protected Area, called a Marine Conservation Zone, which will contribute to
an ecologically coherent network of well managed Marine Protected Areas in
English waters.

This report was commissioned to provide advice on viability, one of the
seven Marine Protected Area network design principles. The research used
existing literature to provide evidence on the viable area required to
conserve habitats and species of conservation importance.

The findings have been used by Natural England and the Joint Nature
Conservation Committee to inform the Ecological Network Guidance for
identifying Marine Conservation Zones.

http://naturalengland.etraderstores.com/NaturalEnglandShop/NECR043

Monitoring intertidal sandflats of the Isles of Scilly Special Area of
Conservation:

Survey of the infaunal organisms of St. Martin's sedimentary shore,
September 2009 (NECR042)

Special Areas of Conservation are established under the European Union's
Habitats Directive 1992 as the best examples in Europe of a suite of listed
habitats. One of the features for which the Isles of Scilly were selected as
a Special Area of Conservation (SAC) is their rich infaunal communities of
intertidal and subtidal marine sediment.


The Directive requires a SAC to be monitored at least every six years to
ensure that the features for which it was selected are being conserved. The
results will inform site managers as to future management of the Isles of
Scilly Special Area of Conservation.

http://naturalengland.etraderstores.com/NaturalEnglandShop/NECR042

Hello,

Fire Coral

To treat fire coral stings, divers recommend a variety of remedies such as
urine, vinegar, and rinsing with salt water. Do not wash a fire coral sting with
fresh water, as this will cause the stinging cells lodged in the diver's skin to
fire, increasing the burning sensation. If possible, divers should remove the
stinging hairs from the wounded area with tweezers. Antibiotic and anti-itch
cream may be applied to the injury as needed. Fire coral stings become infected
easily, and the burning sensation can lead to scratching, which increases the
chance of infection and irritation. Always monitor any patient with a marine
life injury for faintness, shortness of breath, and other signs of an allergic
reaction.

from

http://scuba.about.com/od/fishidentification/ss/FireCoralID_6.htm

This is slightly different from jellyfish stings. With Weever stings the spine
is sometimes embedded.
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/weever2.htm

Why would fresh water cause the nematocycts (not technically cells) to fire?

Cheers


Andy Horton.
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--- In Glaucus@..., "cantorisdecani" <cantoris@...> wrote:
>
> A few things I have found of interest on this subject:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20116454
> (Particularly interesting about the lack of evidence for various treatments
and the use of lidocaine).
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18251731
> (Cold vs Heat)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2464643/?tool=pubmed
> (UK-specific review)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12492389
> (The last sentence)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442242
> (Heat not vinegar in at least one species)
>
> A few personal thoughts:
> I would have thought washing off with seawater would be definitely better than
tapwater so as not to cause osmotic damage to the nematocysts in case that
stimulates them to fire.  Ice (in a bag not direct) ought to help with pain from
inflammation and by a direct numbing action but use of heat is often suggested
as being able to inactivate the venom (but how many species does that work
for?).  The lidocaine study above is very interesting but it's not exactly what
most people have to hand!
> Primarily it'll be general symptomatic treatment - eg Antihistamines and also
steroids if it warrants it.
>

The last horse fishermen of Belgium, Oostduinkerke on the West Flanders
coast is the only place in the world where you will still see the
500-year-old tradition of fishermen trawling for shrimp on horseback.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/video/2010/feb/04/belgium-coast-fishing


Horseback Shrimp Fishing, Oostduinkerke
http://writinghorseback.com/2010/06/working-horseback-riding-vacation-in-oostdui\
nkerke-belgium/


BMLSS Shrimping page
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/SHRIMPING.htm

This attempt to answer Andy's question is based on invertebrate Zoology
dating from the 1970s.  There may be better information available now.



Think of a nematocyst as a surgical glove.  Three fingers and the thumb
tied and cut off off close to the hand.  The other finger is inverted so
that it projects into the glove.  If you increase pressure in the glove
(blow into the wrist opening) the finger will evert and project
outwards.



This is analogous to the way a nematocyst works.  The nematocyst is
embedded in a cnidoblast cell, and has the harpoon like structure
inverted into the cyst.  The "harpoon"  may have barbs, or spines. The
open end of the harpoon like structure is capped by an operculum.  When
stimulated, the nematocyst contracts, increasing fluid pressure on the
inside, the operculum pops open and the "harpoon" fills with fluid and
everts with enough force to extend for its full length, penetrate skin
and deliver toxin as the nematocyst sac contracts.  In some species I
think that a threadlike projection is threadlike and entangles fine
spines on the prey (copepods for example).  Many are coated with a
proteanaceous digestive enzyme  or toxin.



I have always thought that the nematocyst contracted by means of
contractile proteins wrapping the cyst, but there are other potential
mechanisms.



Fresh water will flow into the nematocyst through osmosis, increasing
the osmotic pressure in the nematocyst until the operculum pops and the
harpoon everts causing an additional sting.



If anyone wants a more thorough explanation of osmosis and resulting
pressure, please e-mail me off line and I will be glad to give one.



On a personal note I was stung by fragments from a Portuguese Man of War
that had broken apart in the surf on the hand, arm and corner of the
eye.  I tried application of urine (hand and arm) but found that there
was no appreciable relief.    Internal application of two pints of a
carbonated herb (hops) and barley derived ethanol solution 45 min after
the sting seemed to provide some comfort, or perhaps the effect was
simply wearing off by then.



Cheers,



Dave O'Neill



From: Glaucus@... [mailto:Glaucus@...] On
Behalf Of glaucus25
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:59 AM
To: Glaucus@...
Subject: [Glaucus] Fire Coral





Hello,

Fire Coral

To treat fire coral stings, divers recommend a variety of remedies such
as urine, vinegar, and rinsing with salt water. Do not wash a fire coral
sting with fresh water, as this will cause the stinging cells lodged in
the diver's skin to fire, increasing the burning sensation. If possible,
divers should remove the stinging hairs from the wounded area with
tweezers. Antibiotic and anti-itch cream may be applied to the injury as
needed. Fire coral stings become infected easily, and the burning
sensation can lead to scratching, which increases the chance of
infection and irritation. Always monitor any patient with a marine life
injury for faintness, shortness of breath, and other signs of an
allergic reaction.

from

http://scuba.about.com/od/fishidentification/ss/FireCoralID_6.htm

This is slightly different from jellyfish stings. With Weever stings the
spine is sometimes embedded.
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/weever2.htm

Why would fresh water cause the nematocycts (not technically cells) to
fire?

Cheers

Andy Horton.
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--- In Glaucus@... <mailto:Glaucus%40yahoogroups.co.uk> ,
"cantorisdecani" <cantoris@...> wrote:
>
> A few things I have found of interest on this subject:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20116454
> (Particularly interesting about the lack of evidence for various
treatments and the use of lidocaine).
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18251731
> (Cold vs Heat)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2464643/?tool=pubmed
> (UK-specific review)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12492389
> (The last sentence)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442242
> (Heat not vinegar in at least one species)
>
> A few personal thoughts:
> I would have thought washing off with seawater would be definitely
better than tapwater so as not to cause osmotic damage to the
nematocysts in case that stimulates them to fire. Ice (in a bag not
direct) ought to help with pain from inflammation and by a direct
numbing action but use of heat is often suggested as being able to
inactivate the venom (but how many species does that work for?). The
lidocaine study above is very interesting but it's not exactly what most
people have to hand!
> Primarily it'll be general symptomatic treatment - eg Antihistamines
and also steroids if it warrants it.
>



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Hello,


MARINE LIFE NEWS BULLETIN TORPEDO (October 2010)
Issue 169
ISSN 1464-8156

For technical reasons, TORPEDO is no longer being sent out by EMail. It is
simply easier to view the bulletins on the web pages.

Please find a copy of the bulletin at:
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Torpedo2010Oct.htm

includes

Sunfish, Ray's Bream and Triggerfish Reports
Feature on
Henricia oculata )Starfish)
Langstone Rock, Dorset



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Cheers


Andy Horton.
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Hello,

Thanks for the message.

There is consensus summary :

http://www.jellyfish.ie/downloads/firstaid_treatment_of_jellyfish_stings.pdf

or

http://www.jellyfish.ie/jellyfish_stings_firstaid.asp

The only open question (for British seas) is the likelihood of further
jellyfish, broken tentacles in the sea water. Or other irritants, diatoms,
salts, harmful bacteria, etc.

What is the medical recommendation for an injury in sea water?  Is it washed in
fresh water? I find grazes in seawater are a bit of a problem.

Cheers


Andy Horton.
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--- In Glaucus@..., "cantorisdecani" <cantoris@...> wrote:
>
> A few things I have found of interest on this subject:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20116454
> (Particularly interesting about the lack of evidence for various treatments
and the use of lidocaine).
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18251731
> (Cold vs Heat)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2464643/?tool=pubmed
> (UK-specific review)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12492389
> (The last sentence)
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442242
> (Heat not vinegar in at least one species)
>
> A few personal thoughts:
> I would have thought washing off with seawater would be definitely better than
tapwater so as not to cause osmotic damage to the nematocysts in case that
stimulates them to fire.  Ice (in a bag not direct) ought to help with pain from
inflammation and by a direct numbing action but use of heat is often suggested
as being able to inactivate the venom (but how many species does that work
for?).  The lidocaine study above is very interesting but it's not exactly what
most people have to hand!
> Primarily it'll be general symptomatic treatment - eg Antihistamines and also
steroids if it warrants it.
>

Ref the subject of stings.In 2006 I tried to contact an eminent authority
on jellyfish stings a professor Fenner in Australia but unfortunately the e-mail
address I was given was no longer valid.The x-ray and blood test results I tried
to forward to him are detailed below together with my experience of being stung
by species Anemonia viridis.A Marine Biologist stated my elbow locking up could
not be the result of the sting.Doctors claim that the sting was the cause.Not
really sure from what I have read recently that anybody knows the potential
effects of anemone stings or is there anybody out their who can enlighten me.

       regards

       jim gibson
















       All Test Results



       07/06/2006 Plain X-ray elbow



       Right Elbow X-ray



       Clinical history: Pain, inflamed for 4 weeks. Stung by



       anemome ? infected joint.



       There is soft tissue swelling behind the olecranon. No



       underlying bony abnormality is seen. The elbow joint is



       normal. No joint effusion.



       Consultant Radiologist, Dr M F A Badran-Cons / JCW



       Dr F J Kamlow



       09/06/2006 Plain X-ray elbow Right - There is soft tissue swelling behind
the olecranon. No underlyin

       normal. No joint effusion.

       06/06/2006 Red blood cell distribution width

       *** NUMERIC VALUE SUPPLIED: = 13.7% *** Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Percentage basophils = 0 % Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Basophil count = 0 10*9/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Haematocrit = 0.43 L/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Full blood count - FBC Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Percentage lymphocytes = 38 % Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Lymphocyte count = 3 10*9/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Total white cell count = 8.1 10*9/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Red blood cell (RBC) count = 4.82 10*12/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Platelet count = 266 10*9/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Percentage neutrophils = 52 % Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Neutrophil count = 4.2 10*9/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Percentage monocytes = 8 % Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Monocyte count = 0.6 10*9/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Mean corpuscular volume (MCV) = 89.2 fl_ Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Mean corpusc. Hb. cone. (MCHC) = 33.9 g/dL Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Mean corpusc. haemoglobin(MCH) = 30.2 pg Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Haemoglobin estimation = 14.6 g/dL Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Percentage eosinophils = 2 % Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Eosinophil count = 0.2 10*9/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Erythrocyte sedimentation rate = 27 mm/h High Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 GFR calculated abbreviated MDRD = 75 mL/min Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Serum C reactive protein level = 29.3 mg/L High Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Plasma urate level = 0.43 mmol/L High Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Renal profile Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Plasma urea level = 5.5 mmol/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Plasma triglyceride level = 2.13 mmol/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Plasma sodium level = 140 mmol/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Plasma potassium level = 4.1 mmol/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Plasma creatinine level = 100 umol/L Dr F J Kamlow

       06/06/2006 Serum cholesterol = 5.81 mmol/L High Dr F J Kamlow







For the attention of Prof Peter Fenner.
Peter,
a mutual friend Prof Ray Williams suggested I pass on to you my experience of
being stung by anemone 'Anemonia viridis (=sulcata), in the hope that you may
have some recommended first aid treatment if it happens again.I retired from
Ford Motor Co 4 years ago and because I live near a salt river set up a 900
litre salt water tank, for the last 2 years I have collected several specimens
of anemone from the river and around the UK coast.I do not have a background in
medicine or marine biology.
FIRST CASE.
April 7th 2006-I received a sting from the anemone which I can only liken to a
powerful electric shock to the inside of my elbow.I had removed the brown
variety of the species from the tank and accidently lent on it.An area of approx
60mm diameter immediately went very hard and white in colour and looked like a
skin graft.After a couple of hours the 60mm area changed to random lines of red
and mauve and started to itch.The marks were still visible months after I was
stung.A local nurse prescribed me some antihistermine cream which did not have
any immediate effect but the itch stopped some 8 days later.
May 10th -during the night my arm locked up,the pain was excruciating in the
elbow area and a half golf ball size swelling came up on my elbow.
May 11th-A Doctor diagnosed that bacteria from the sting had got into my elbow
and he was adament that the pain was not caused by gout.I was never tested for
bacteria infection.I have had a history of gout in my toes and knees but never
in the elbow.As I was on holiday at the time he prescribed 2 weeks of
antibiotics.
May-25th-As there was some improvement after taking the antibiotics I decided to
put up with the discomfort for a further week expecting the improvement to
continue.
May-31st-Elbow locked up again and was more painful than before,my local doctor
prescribed a further week of antibiotics and penicillin.
June 6th-blood test results attached.
June 7th-x-ray results attached.
June 13th- I was prescribed anti inflammatory (Ibuprofen 400) and antihistermene
tablets.
June 25th-I stopped taking all pills.There was a big improvement.
Aug 3rd-very slight pain in the elbow.No further treatment or action taken.
SECOND CASE
Mid June 2006 I was stung by the same species on the side of my hand between my
small finger and wrist,the anemone was completely submerged.The area itched for
a couple of days and it was extremely painful for me to clinch my fist,all the
finger joints appeared to be affected.I did not report this incident to my
doctor as he would probably have responded 'Did you not learn your lesson from
last time.'
Hope this is of interest and await your comments
regards



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