Dear Guy,

Likewise with IE8. I've been viewing your amazing maps with this for some time
with no problems.

Do let me know when you are within a week or so of uploading Roger's database as
I still have a large number of site records which I have yet to send him for
this year. If necessary, I can then send him the highlights but I hope to make a
big advance on these just after  Christmas. As an example, I have today received
22 records from one BC member, but these are for 12 sites, so each has to have a
site created in mapmate. I have other sites, some of which have weekly mv
records. This explains why I am rather quiet at present - concentrating on
catching up!

Regards,

Other Peter

--- In Glosmoths@..., "guymere" <gmeredith308@...> wrote:
>
> Many thanks Robert & Peter for your quick responses to my request.  It seems
that the information I saw about IE8 not recognising <applet> tags was out of
date or perhaps always incorrect.  I'll leave the <object> version in place
because it should provide an easy way of downloading Java if necessary.
>
> Guy
>
> --- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <peter.cranswick@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Guy
> >
> > Likewise, works fine in IE8 for me.
> >
> > And worth saying again, this is fantastic! Very clever and very useful.
> >
> > Pedro
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Glosmoths@..., Robert Homan <theapiary@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Guy
> > >
> > > I've been using the"old" version with IE8 with no problems for a month or
two.  The "new" version is similarly problem free.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Glosmoths@...
> > > From: gmeredith308@
> > > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:58:01 +0000
> > > Subject: [Glosmoths] Updates to moth maps & lists website (incl. version
for Internet Explorer 8)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have just uploaded a new version of the moth map and list web pages, now
including links to versions which are intended for use with Internet Explorer 8
which needs <object> rather than <applet> tags in the HTML source.
> > >
> > > If you use IE8 and try the new version out, please post a message
indicating whether it worked! I used example instructions on the internet when
making the changes. These include a line which should cause a prompt to appear
to download Java into your browser if it isn't already installed (or if a
version older than 1.5.0 is installed). NB This download could also work in some
older versions of IE.
> > >
> > > Also added are new options on the species list page to show national
status (itself derived from lists on the internet which might be out of date)
and UK larval food information derived from various sources (no guarantee of
complete accuracy). The main reason for making this information available is so
that people can easily identify likely use by scarce moths of particular plants
on land they manage (e.g. GWT Nature Reserves).
> > >
> > > For 2010 the maps and lists only include my records together with those in
Roger's database early in the summer when he sent me a copy. Once Roger has
received people's 2010 records, entered them into his MapMate database and sent
me a file of the new records, I will rebuild the map & list data file and then
post a message here when it is available.
> > >
> > > Guy
> > >
> >
>

Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anyone could help me out by sending over the information on
0877 Stathmopoda pedella from the relevant volume of MBGBI? And if anyone has
any other published information that would be great.

I have just purchased Volume 3 and intend to keep adding to that set over time,
although cost currently prohibits that.

So, if there is any way this could be done legally and not infringing copyright,
I would be most grateful. Perhaps a scan of relevant pages?

It's not for commercial use!

All best,

Ben Pollard

Hello Ben

See your inbox for evidence of Santa's existence - not that you ever doubted it
of course.

Robert


--- In Glosmoths@..., "Ben Pollard" <benedict.pollard@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I was wondering if anyone could help me out by sending over the information on
0877 Stathmopoda pedella from the relevant volume of MBGBI? And if anyone has
any other published information that would be great.
>
> I have just purchased Volume 3 and intend to keep adding to that set over
time, although cost currently prohibits that.
>
> So, if there is any way this could be done legally and not infringing
copyright, I would be most grateful. Perhaps a scan of relevant pages?
>
> It's not for commercial use!
>
> All best,
>
> Ben Pollard
>

Seasons greetings to everyone

Best wishes for a moth-filled 2011

Pedro

I've received, from Butterfly Conservation, a complimentary copy of this 454
page publication, and of course, have to recommend it to all forum members. It's
the culmination of 4 years work by the Moths Count team and covers most british
macro moths, including migrants. To my mind, it's the equivalent of Roger's
Gloucestershire Moths, a Second Account" (copies still available!) in that one
can rapidly look up a macro moth without having to access the internet.

As it's name suggests, these are only provisional maps and a first step in
establishing a database of our macro moths, but it's gratifying to look up a
moth which you've recorded and see its dot on the map. In my case, for instance,
the Plumed Prominent in the Cotswolds, Dew Moth at Swifts Hill, Lace Border and
Least Carpet in my garden in Stroud. There are some omissions - I don't see the
Pine Hawk which Bob recorded in his Chalford garden - but that is the point of
this atlas - to highlight any errors, and, especially, to enable one to target
under-recorded areas.

The cost, on Amazon is £20.00 post free, but it's not yet released, but I see it
is available from www.mothscount.org at £12.50 plus £5.00 carriage. However, if
ordering from Moths Count, I would suggest you phone through your order and ask
for better packaging as mine arrived in a Jiffy Bag with a damaged spine.

I hope you will all be inspired by this publication, which together with Roger's
booklet and Guy's online maps is really helping to bring moth recording to the
forefront at last.

I'd like to reiterate Pedro's message and wish you all Happy Mothing in 2011.

Peter (formerly Pierre, but a new year, a new name).

I couldn't find it on mothscount but eventually found it at
http://www.butterfly-conservation.org/product.asp?PageId=5146

Bob

--- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@...> wrote:
>
> I've received, from Butterfly Conservation, a complimentary copy of this 454
page publication, and of course, have to recommend it to all forum members. It's
the culmination of 4 years work by the Moths Count team and covers most british
macro moths, including migrants. To my mind, it's the equivalent of Roger's
Gloucestershire Moths, a Second Account" (copies still available!) in that one
can rapidly look up a macro moth without having to access the internet.
>
> As it's name suggests, these are only provisional maps and a first step in
establishing a database of our macro moths, but it's gratifying to look up a
moth which you've recorded and see its dot on the map. In my case, for instance,
the Plumed Prominent in the Cotswolds, Dew Moth at Swifts Hill, Lace Border and
Least Carpet in my garden in Stroud. There are some omissions - I don't see the
Pine Hawk which Bob recorded in his Chalford garden - but that is the point of
this atlas - to highlight any errors, and, especially, to enable one to target
under-recorded areas.
>
> The cost, on Amazon is £20.00 post free, but it's not yet released, but I see
it is available from www.mothscount.org at £12.50 plus £5.00 carriage. However,
if ordering from Moths Count, I would suggest you phone through your order and
ask for better packaging as mine arrived in a Jiffy Bag with a damaged spine.
>
> I hope you will all be inspired by this publication, which together with
Roger's booklet and Guy's online maps is really helping to bring moth recording
to the forefront at last.
>
> I'd like to reiterate Pedro's message and wish you all Happy Mothing in 2011.
>
> Peter (formerly Pierre, but a new year, a new name).
>

Good thinking Robert! Or maybe somebody on here could take orders!

Peter

--- In Glosmoths@..., Robert Homan <theapiary@...> wrote:
>
>
> If any one is going to the January conference in Birmingham, then you might be
able to save the postage!
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> To: Glosmoths@...
> From: bob.test@...
> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 11:19:03 +0000
> Subject: [Glosmoths] Re: Provisional Atlas of the UK's Larger Moths
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I couldn't find it on mothscount but eventually found it at
http://www.butterfly-conservation.org/product.asp?PageId=5146
>
> Bob
>
> --- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@> wrote:
> >
> > I've received, from Butterfly Conservation, a complimentary copy of this 454
page publication, and of course, have to recommend it to all forum members. It's
the culmination of 4 years work by the Moths Count team and covers most british
macro moths, including migrants. To my mind, it's the equivalent of Roger's
Gloucestershire Moths, a Second Account" (copies still available!) in that one
can rapidly look up a macro moth without having to access the internet.
> >
> > As it's name suggests, these are only provisional maps and a first step in
establishing a database of our macro moths, but it's gratifying to look up a
moth which you've recorded and see its dot on the map. In my case, for instance,
the Plumed Prominent in the Cotswolds, Dew Moth at Swifts Hill, Lace Border and
Least Carpet in my garden in Stroud. There are some omissions - I don't see the
Pine Hawk which Bob recorded in his Chalford garden - but that is the point of
this atlas - to highlight any errors, and, especially, to enable one to target
under-recorded areas.
> >
> > The cost, on Amazon is £20.00 post free, but it's not yet released, but I
see it is available from www.mothscount.org at £12.50 plus £5.00 carriage.
However, if ordering from Moths Count, I would suggest you phone through your
order and ask for better packaging as mine arrived in a Jiffy Bag with a damaged
spine.
> >
> > I hope you will all be inspired by this publication, which together with
Roger's booklet and Guy's online maps is really helping to bring moth recording
to the forefront at last.
> >
> > I'd like to reiterate Pedro's message and wish you all Happy Mothing in
2011.
> >
> > Peter (formerly Pierre, but a new year, a new name).
> >
>

An hour or so in my local park this pm produced 3 Winter Moths (1m and 2f, one
of which had been squashed revealing a mass of bluish eggs), 2 male Mottled
Umbers and two Vapourer Moth egg masses.  Factoring in a Speckled Wood chrysalis
and some unidentified eggs on Wych Elm, not a bad haul for the end of December.

Robert

Indeed Robert - we have Winter Moths all over our living room window as I write.

Peter

--- In Glosmoths@..., "rh_chelt" <theapiary@...> wrote:
>
> An hour or so in my local park this pm produced 3 Winter Moths (1m and 2f, one
of which had been squashed revealing a mass of bluish eggs), 2 male Mottled
Umbers and two Vapourer Moth egg masses.  Factoring in a Speckled Wood chrysalis
and some unidentified eggs on Wych Elm, not a bad haul for the end of December.
>
> Robert
>

My former school friend passed away recently, leaving a vast collection of
lepidoptera, which has now been successfully relocated to the British Museum
(Natural History).

As a result, I have inherited a huge collection of Entomological Journals, some
dating back 100 years so I though I might (at risk of copyright infringement)
reproduce an item by way of light relief to pass away the (apart from Robert's
exploits) quieter winter evenings......

I won't mention which journal this is from:

Early Spring Moths - On Friday, Jan 31st (1890) I went out to take some Hybernia
progemmeria, a very variable species here, and when I had just filled my boxes I
came upon Phigalia pilosaria on the wing in scores, all flying around a dwarf
holly bush in a hedge. I had a man with a lamp with me, and fortunately we had a
net each. I had to resort to my pocket killing bottle, and my man caught them
until my bottle was full, and we then had to give up. They swarmed round the
holly bush but we could not beat any out. They ceased for about five minutes and
then came out as thick as ever. I concluded there were females about but the
most vigorous search failed to find any trace. When I reached the Inn and turned
out my killing bottle, there were 16 P.pilosaria, all freshly emerged specimens,
which were very variable. The result of my outing was 16 P.pilosaria, 13
H.progemmaria, 27 H. rupicapraria, 2 Cheimatobia brumata, and 2 Depressariae sp?
I do not consider this bad for 31st January! The night was still, warm, and
bright moonlight. (name supplied - Harrogate. 31st Jan. 1890)

Beat that Robert!

Peter

Dear Peter

What are the Hybernias? Struggling to make sense of those

Pedro

--- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@...> wrote:
>
> My former school friend passed away recently, leaving a vast collection of
lepidoptera, which has now been successfully relocated to the British Museum
(Natural History).
>
> As a result, I have inherited a huge collection of Entomological Journals,
some dating back 100 years so I though I might (at risk of copyright
infringement) reproduce an item by way of light relief to pass away the (apart
from Robert's exploits) quieter winter evenings......
>
> I won't mention which journal this is from:
>
> Early Spring Moths - On Friday, Jan 31st (1890) I went out to take some
Hybernia progemmeria, a very variable species here, and when I had just filled
my boxes I came upon Phigalia pilosaria on the wing in scores, all flying around
a dwarf holly bush in a hedge. I had a man with a lamp with me, and fortunately
we had a net each. I had to resort to my pocket killing bottle, and my man
caught them until my bottle was full, and we then had to give up. They swarmed
round the holly bush but we could not beat any out. They ceased for about five
minutes and then came out as thick as ever. I concluded there were females about
but the most vigorous search failed to find any trace. When I reached the Inn
and turned out my killing bottle, there were 16 P.pilosaria, all freshly emerged
specimens, which were very variable. The result of my outing was 16 P.pilosaria,
13 H.progemmaria, 27 H. rupicapraria, 2 Cheimatobia brumata, and 2 Depressariae
sp?
> I do not consider this bad for 31st January! The night was still, warm, and
bright moonlight. (name supplied - Harrogate. 31st Jan. 1890)
>
> Beat that Robert!
>
> Peter
>

In case you wanted to start the New Year without the burden of this worry:

Hybernia progemmeria = Dotted Border Agriopis marginaria

H. rupicapraria =  Early Moth Theria primaria

Best wishes

Robert


--- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <peter.cranswick@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Peter
>
> What are the Hybernias? Struggling to make sense of those
>
> Pedro
>
> --- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@> wrote:
> >
> > My former school friend passed away recently, leaving a vast collection of
lepidoptera, which has now been successfully relocated to the British Museum
(Natural History).
> >
> > As a result, I have inherited a huge collection of Entomological Journals,
some dating back 100 years so I though I might (at risk of copyright
infringement) reproduce an item by way of light relief to pass away the (apart
from Robert's exploits) quieter winter evenings......
> >
> > I won't mention which journal this is from:
> >
> > Early Spring Moths - On Friday, Jan 31st (1890) I went out to take some
Hybernia progemmeria, a very variable species here, and when I had just filled
my boxes I came upon Phigalia pilosaria on the wing in scores, all flying around
a dwarf holly bush in a hedge. I had a man with a lamp with me, and fortunately
we had a net each. I had to resort to my pocket killing bottle, and my man
caught them until my bottle was full, and we then had to give up. They swarmed
round the holly bush but we could not beat any out. They ceased for about five
minutes and then came out as thick as ever. I concluded there were females about
but the most vigorous search failed to find any trace. When I reached the Inn
and turned out my killing bottle, there were 16 P.pilosaria, all freshly emerged
specimens, which were very variable. The result of my outing was 16 P.pilosaria,
13 H.progemmaria, 27 H. rupicapraria, 2 Cheimatobia brumata, and 2 Depressariae
sp?
> > I do not consider this bad for 31st January! The night was still, warm, and
bright moonlight. (name supplied - Harrogate. 31st Jan. 1890)
> >
> > Beat that Robert!
> >
> > Peter
> >
>

Thanks Robert, you pipped me as I've only just returned to this site. I'm so
ancient that I still use some of the older names.
To add to your list:
Hybernia defoliaria - Mottled Umber
Hybernia leucophaearia - Spring Usher

Peter

--- In Glosmoths@..., "rh_chelt" <theapiary@...> wrote:
>
> In case you wanted to start the New Year without the burden of this worry:
>
> Hybernia progemmeria = Dotted Border Agriopis marginaria
>
> H. rupicapraria =  Early Moth Theria primaria
>
> Best wishes
>
> Robert
>
>
> --- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <peter.cranswick@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Peter
> >
> > What are the Hybernias? Struggling to make sense of those
> >
> > Pedro
> >
> > --- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@> wrote:
> > >
> > > My former school friend passed away recently, leaving a vast collection of
lepidoptera, which has now been successfully relocated to the British Museum
(Natural History).
> > >
> > > As a result, I have inherited a huge collection of Entomological Journals,
some dating back 100 years so I though I might (at risk of copyright
infringement) reproduce an item by way of light relief to pass away the (apart
from Robert's exploits) quieter winter evenings......
> > >
> > > I won't mention which journal this is from:
> > >
> > > Early Spring Moths - On Friday, Jan 31st (1890) I went out to take some
Hybernia progemmeria, a very variable species here, and when I had just filled
my boxes I came upon Phigalia pilosaria on the wing in scores, all flying around
a dwarf holly bush in a hedge. I had a man with a lamp with me, and fortunately
we had a net each. I had to resort to my pocket killing bottle, and my man
caught them until my bottle was full, and we then had to give up. They swarmed
round the holly bush but we could not beat any out. They ceased for about five
minutes and then came out as thick as ever. I concluded there were females about
but the most vigorous search failed to find any trace. When I reached the Inn
and turned out my killing bottle, there were 16 P.pilosaria, all freshly emerged
specimens, which were very variable. The result of my outing was 16 P.pilosaria,
13 H.progemmaria, 27 H. rupicapraria, 2 Cheimatobia brumata, and 2 Depressariae
sp?
> > > I do not consider this bad for 31st January! The night was still, warm,
and bright moonlight. (name supplied - Harrogate. 31st Jan. 1890)
> > >
> > > Beat that Robert!
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> >
>

Although it was New Year's Eve, moth recording still continues.
My 80 watt GMS catch for Friday night was as follows:

December Moth 4
Chestnut 4
Satellite 1
Red-Green Carpet 1
Winter Moth 17
Mottled Umber 2

My three GMS school traps are having a two week break. One of these coincided
with a temperature of around minus 14C so I suspect not much was missed on this
night!

Peter

Wow! And I thought my 5 December Moths was quite impressive.

New Year Resolution to plant a mature woodland in the back garden...

Pedro

--- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@...> wrote:
>
> Although it was New Year's Eve, moth recording still continues.
> My 80 watt GMS catch for Friday night was as follows:
>
> December Moth 4
> Chestnut 4
> Satellite 1
> Red-Green Carpet 1
> Winter Moth 17
> Mottled Umber 2
>
> My three GMS school traps are having a two week break. One of these coincided
with a temperature of around minus 14C so I suspect not much was missed on this
night!
>
> Peter
>

Thanks both.

It would be nice to say this lack of knowledge reflected my lack of years, but
that's clearly not true, on two counts nowadays!

Pedro



--- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Robert, you pipped me as I've only just returned to this site. I'm so
ancient that I still use some of the older names.
> To add to your list:
> Hybernia defoliaria - Mottled Umber
> Hybernia leucophaearia - Spring Usher
>
> Peter
>
> --- In Glosmoths@..., "rh_chelt" <theapiary@> wrote:
> >
> > In case you wanted to start the New Year without the burden of this worry:
> >
> > Hybernia progemmeria = Dotted Border Agriopis marginaria
> >
> > H. rupicapraria =  Early Moth Theria primaria
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > --- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <peter.cranswick@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Peter
> > >
> > > What are the Hybernias? Struggling to make sense of those
> > >
> > > Pedro
> > >
> > > --- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My former school friend passed away recently, leaving a vast collection
of lepidoptera, which has now been successfully relocated to the British Museum
(Natural History).
> > > >
> > > > As a result, I have inherited a huge collection of Entomological
Journals, some dating back 100 years so I though I might (at risk of copyright
infringement) reproduce an item by way of light relief to pass away the (apart
from Robert's exploits) quieter winter evenings......
> > > >
> > > > I won't mention which journal this is from:
> > > >
> > > > Early Spring Moths - On Friday, Jan 31st (1890) I went out to take some
Hybernia progemmeria, a very variable species here, and when I had just filled
my boxes I came upon Phigalia pilosaria on the wing in scores, all flying around
a dwarf holly bush in a hedge. I had a man with a lamp with me, and fortunately
we had a net each. I had to resort to my pocket killing bottle, and my man
caught them until my bottle was full, and we then had to give up. They swarmed
round the holly bush but we could not beat any out. They ceased for about five
minutes and then came out as thick as ever. I concluded there were females about
but the most vigorous search failed to find any trace. When I reached the Inn
and turned out my killing bottle, there were 16 P.pilosaria, all freshly emerged
specimens, which were very variable. The result of my outing was 16 P.pilosaria,
13 H.progemmaria, 27 H. rupicapraria, 2 Cheimatobia brumata, and 2 Depressariae
sp?
> > > > I do not consider this bad for 31st January! The night was still, warm,
and bright moonlight. (name supplied - Harrogate. 31st Jan. 1890)
> > > >
> > > > Beat that Robert!
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

There is actually Robert! try The Chap. www.thechap.net

Joff

--- In Glosmoths@..., Robert Homan <theapiary@...> wrote:
>
>
> I had better advertise for "a man".  Is there a magazine that is the
equivalent of "The Lady"?
>
> Robert
>
>
> To: Glosmoths@...
> From: mothrecording@...
> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:09:25 +0000
> Subject: [Glosmoths] 110 years ago
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My former school friend passed away recently, leaving a vast collection of
lepidoptera, which has now been successfully relocated to the British Museum
(Natural History).
>
> As a result, I have inherited a huge collection of Entomological Journals,
some dating back 100 years so I though I might (at risk of copyright
infringement) reproduce an item by way of light relief to pass away the (apart
from Robert's exploits) quieter winter evenings......
>
> I won't mention which journal this is from:
>
> Early Spring Moths - On Friday, Jan 31st (1890) I went out to take some
Hybernia progemmeria, a very variable species here, and when I had just filled
my boxes I came upon Phigalia pilosaria on the wing in scores, all flying around
a dwarf holly bush in a hedge. I had a man with a lamp with me, and fortunately
we had a net each. I had to resort to my pocket killing bottle, and my man
caught them until my bottle was full, and we then had to give up. They swarmed
round the holly bush but we could not beat any out. They ceased for about five
minutes and then came out as thick as ever. I concluded there were females about
but the most vigorous search failed to find any trace. When I reached the Inn
and turned out my killing bottle, there were 16 P.pilosaria, all freshly emerged
specimens, which were very variable. The result of my outing was 16 P.pilosaria,
13 H.progemmaria, 27 H. rupicapraria, 2 Cheimatobia brumata, and 2 Depressariae
sp?
> I do not consider this bad for 31st January! The night was still, warm, and
bright moonlight. (name supplied - Harrogate. 31st Jan. 1890)
>
> Beat that Robert!
>
> Peter
>

A friend of mine is thinking of investing in Robert Goodens £300 Moonlander Moth
trap. Any views or thoughts ?.

I have no personal experience of this trap but if you check the BirdForum site
under Butterflies and Moths Forum you will see that this trap was discussed in
August 2010 (the thread was "Travel Moth Trap?") and Angus Tyner, from Ireland,
had some fairly definite views on its merits, or rather lack of them.  Having
read Angus's posts on the GMS site over the last couple of years I should say
that his experience and judgement is worth taking note of.  Sorry I can't manage
to work out how to give you a direct link to the BirdForum thread.

Regards,  Tony






--- In Glosmoths@..., "g.best@..." <G.Best@...> wrote:
>
> A friend of mine is thinking of investing in Robert Goodens £300 Moonlander
Moth trap. Any views or thoughts ?.
>

Hello

Before your friend spends that much money have a look at the comments here:

http://back-garden-moths.co.uk/community/showthread.php?8929-Update-on-Moonlande\
r-trap-and-Goodden-light

Robert

--- In Glosmoths@..., "g.best@..." <G.Best@...> wrote:
>
> A friend of mine is thinking of investing in Robert Goodens £300 Moonlander
Moth trap. Any views or thoughts ?.
>

Thanks for the info. on Moonlanders. Have passed it all onto my friend( (and
told him to join our group)

Hello

Just over 2 weeks later and another 8 Winter Moths found on Oak trunks in the
park this morning, including a very fresh, well-marked example.  Other odds and
ends included a possible Vapourer cocoon with a caterpillar that has perhaps
failed to pupate; a rather odd looking caterpillar approx 1cm in length intent
on climbing one of the trunks and a crumpled wing geometrid (ID unknown). 
Pictures in the RH album.

Robert

--- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@...> wrote:
>
> Indeed Robert - we have Winter Moths all over our living room window as I
write.
>
> Peter
>
> --- In Glosmoths@..., "rh_chelt" <theapiary@> wrote:
> >
> > An hour or so in my local park this pm produced 3 Winter Moths (1m and 2f,
one of which had been squashed revealing a mass of bluish eggs), 2 male Mottled
Umbers and two Vapourer Moth egg masses.  Factoring in a Speckled Wood chrysalis
and some unidentified eggs on Wych Elm, not a bad haul for the end of December.
> >
> > Robert
> >
>

Hi Robert

Yes Winter Moths still around but numbers are starting to drop here.
Managed to do quite well last night until the wind picked up. Ten species
between three traps.
Posted a couple of photos in my album.

Steve
--- In Glosmoths@..., "rh_chelt" <theapiary@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Just over 2 weeks later and another 8 Winter Moths found on Oak trunks in the
park this morning, including a very fresh, well-marked example.  Other odds and
ends included a possible Vapourer cocoon with a caterpillar that has perhaps
failed to pupate; a rather odd looking caterpillar approx 1cm in length intent
on climbing one of the trunks and a crumpled wing geometrid (ID unknown). 
Pictures in the RH album.
>
> Robert
>
> --- In Glosmoths@..., "Peter" <mothrecording@> wrote:
> >
> > Indeed Robert - we have Winter Moths all over our living room window as I
write.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > --- In Glosmoths@..., "rh_chelt" <theapiary@> wrote:
> > >
> > > An hour or so in my local park this pm produced 3 Winter Moths (1m and 2f,
one of which had been squashed revealing a mass of bluish eggs), 2 male Mottled
Umbers and two Vapourer Moth egg masses.  Factoring in a Speckled Wood chrysalis
and some unidentified eggs on Wych Elm, not a bad haul for the end of December.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> >
>

Roger Gaunt has sent me a spreadsheet of records he has received (& made) for
2010, and I have just uploaded a new version of the map & list data built using
these, and revised the map and list web pages to indicate this.

http://www.gloucestershire-butterflies.org.uk/Guys_maps/mothmap.html

http://www.gloucestershire-butterflies.org.uk/Guys_maps/mothlist.html

If you have made records which aren't shown on the maps, please send them to
Roger if you haven't already done so.

I'm intending to update the scientific names to match the current "official"
ones, but name mismatches shouldn't have caused any missing records because I
use the Bradley numbers when building the map and list data file, not the
species names.

Guy

Hello

A drop in temps might mean reduced trapping, but Bramble bushes at this time of
the year can be very productive.  So, if you have a bit of time have a look at
the young leaves near the shoot tips for winter generation tenanted mines of
Stigmella aurella (despite the "big freeze" they seem to have survived).  This
time of the year is probably the safest time to record this species as there can
be no confusuion with Stigmella splendidissimella.  The same leaves might have
mines of Emmetia marginea, while larger leaves might show feeding evidence of
Carcina quercina.  Pictures of the latter in the RH folder.

Robert

My late school friend, who died last August, leaving a vast array of equipment,
used a Moonlander and I was of the opinion that it was fairly useless and very
expensive, most of the moths sitting on the outside of the trap, waiting to be
picked off by birds, with very few arriving inside.

Having used just about every trap on the market, including the very first Heath
trap, having once worked alongside the inventor, John Heath, my opinion is that
his original 6 watt trap, with the ORIGINAL ELECTRICS remains by far the best
overall in terms of energy used / overall catch. Unfortunately, this is no
longer available. DON'T buy the latest 6 watt Heath traps as the circuitry is
inferior resulting in a poor catch.

Maybe I shouldn't mention this on here but I've designed a trap - the "Hugo"
trap - using an 8 watt actinic tube. Preliminary results are far superior to
anything I've ever used, when compared to similar wattages, often 30% to 50%
higher and quite a few recorders and schools are now using these in
Gloucestershire and elsewhere. The highest catch to date is around 250 moths,
most of whom were inside the trap. The latest request for the trap is from one
of the co-ordinaters of the Garden Moth Scheme.

The trap is NOT FOR SALE FOR PROFIT as there are better ways for me to  make a
living, but I have been happy to make these up for a few people as a way of
increasing the number of recorders.

I'm expecting this post to be deleted....

Peter



--- In Glosmoths@..., "g.best@..." <G.Best@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info. on Moonlanders. Have passed it all onto my friend( (and
told him to join our group)
>

Hi all,

Does anyone still record Small Eggar in Gloucestershire? Can anyone suggest
possible sites or even suitable habitat - I suspect untouched Blackthorn is
getting as rare as the moth!

Martin
VC38

Hi Robert

Posted a couple of photos in my album of a possible Stigmella aurella mine i
found before i started running my traps Sunday night.
Do you think this is likely to be one,obviously it was in bramble.

Steve
--- In Glosmoths@..., "rh_chelt" <theapiary@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> A drop in temps might mean reduced trapping, but Bramble bushes at this time
of the year can be very productive.  So, if you have a bit of time have a look
at the young leaves near the shoot tips for winter generation tenanted mines of
Stigmella aurella (despite the "big freeze" they seem to have survived).  This
time of the year is probably the safest time to record this species as there can
be no confusuion with Stigmella splendidissimella.  The same leaves might have
mines of Emmetia marginea, while larger leaves might show feeding evidence of
Carcina quercina.  Pictures of the latter in the RH folder.
>
> Robert
>