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#30 From: <ian.m.law@...>
Date: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:35 am
Subject: RE: Romford Ring Road
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Hi Guys, I've been away for a few days, so may be a little late in replying to RR thoughts.
 
 
A thought or two regarding Ring Road Cycle lane markings.
 
Maybe both options could be considered,
 
1 - The Short, sharp and shocking ring road route, moving the traffic lane markings. Although having progressed with the scheme against the general wishes of the meeting I don't know why the 'consultants' didn't consider this a better idea in the first place? I perceive that there is a cost in terms of budget and negative publicity to consider here. On this point there is a need to raise a couple of question:
a) Establish some justification as to why, as experts, the consultants failed an obvious requirement. (by adjusting traffic lane widths)
b) establish why the Council had to rush the deployment of these markings when there was clearly outstanding areas of concern? (and at the start of a financial year, i.e. 12 months to spend the budget)
 
2 - A safer, slower route is required, for those less experienced. If the resent survey is to be acknowledged, that 99% of the borough don't cycle, therefore this is safe route is of far greater significance than fiddling with the ring road. (a partial route already exists)
 
However, I do feel that the object must be to encourage others onto their bikes and I don't feel that the ring road will ever achieve that objective.
 
Cheers
Ian 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 13 July 2005 19:00
To: Have_Bike@...
Subject: [Have_Bike] Romford Ring Road

Dear All,
 
Thanks to Ian for what I hope will be the first of many emails on the strategy.
 
Meanwhile, Musood contacted me earlier in the week an asked if we could consider the following - Bearing in mind the width of the traffic lanes on the ring road, he is considering moving the motor traffic dividing line over so as to give a little more room to the nearside lane to account for the cycle lane.
 
Do we agree? On reflection, I am coming to the view that they are not a lot of use and we'd do better having them removed and redoubling our efforts to have the alternative (albeit longer) routes made good.
 
What do you think?
 
regards
Terry

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#28 From: "Philip Coghlan" <Philip.coghlan@...>
Date: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: Romford Ring Road
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Hello Terry.
     In my view, the ring road will inevitably serve as a route for
general cycling in Romford, even if alternative and preferred routes are
promoted. For that reason , it should be safe and usable, so I support
Musood's suggestion.
     The problem of the way the lanes "abandon" users at the roundabouts
has been an item for discussion at the CLG meetings, and as you may
remember I have asked for this to be included as a subject for
progressing and monitoring at furure meetings.
     Regards Philip

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Havering Cycling Campaign <hcc@...>
     To: Have_Bike@... <Have_Bike@...>
     Date: 13 July 2005 18:58
     Subject: [Have_Bike] Romford Ring Road


     Dear All,

     Thanks to Ian for what I hope will be the first of many emails on
the strategy.

     Meanwhile, Musood contacted me earlier in the week an asked if we
could consider the following - Bearing in mind the width of the traffic
lanes on the ring road, he is considering moving the motor traffic
dividing line over so as to give a little more room to the nearside lane
to account for the cycle lane.

     Do we agree? On reflection, I am coming to the view that they are
not a lot of use and we'd do better having them removed and redoubling
our efforts to have the alternative (albeit longer) routes made good.

     What do you think?

     regards
     Terry


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#27 From: "Angela Smith" <smith_angela_m@...>
Date: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: Romford Ring Road
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Sorry, what was the question?

Quite right I would just negotiate the roundabouts, but it is extremely irritating the way cycle lanes either END without warning or try to lead cyclists round the periphery of roundabouts regardless of which way they are turning.  This is (a) disconcerting and (b) dangerous particularly for inexperienced cyclists.

Regards

Angela




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Subject: Re: [Have_Bike] Romford Ring Road
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:26:10 +0100

Hi Angela,

This is why I am asking - To me, the cycle lanes are intended for learner cyclists, younger cyclists and cyclists from other areas who are unfamilar and need a reasonably safe route to follow.

Experienced local cyclists probably don't need them.

I would say that if you're confident and competent enough to negotiate the roundabouts on the ring road where the cycle lanes dump you, you probably don't need them. If you're not, the roundabouts will be a nasty suprise.

What do you say?

Regards
Terry
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To: Have_Bike@...
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Have_Bike] Romford Ring Road


I have a fundamental dislike of being forced onto longer routes and tend to stick to direct routes whenever feasible.

Regards

Angela




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Subject: [Have_Bike] Romford Ring Road
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:00:05 +0100

MessageDear All,

Thanks to Ian for what I hope will be the first of many emails on the strategy.

Meanwhile, Musood contacted me earlier in the week an asked if we could consider the following - Bearing in mind the width of the traffic lanes on the ring road, he is considering moving the motor traffic dividing line over so as to give a little more room to the nearside lane to account for the cycle lane.

Do we agree? On reflection, I am coming to the view that they are not a lot of use and we'd do better having them removed and redoubling our efforts to have the alternative (albeit longer) routes made good.

What do you think?

regards
Terry



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#26 From: "Havering Cycling Campaign" <hcc@...>
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: Romford Ring Road
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Hi Angela,
 
This is why I am asking - To me, the cycle lanes are intended for learner cyclists, younger cyclists and cyclists from other areas who are unfamilar and need a reasonably safe route to follow.
 
Experienced local cyclists probably don't need them.
 
I would say that if you're confident and competent enough to negotiate the roundabouts on the ring road where the cycle lanes dump you, you probably don't need them. If you're not, the roundabouts will be a nasty suprise.
 
What do you say?
 
Regards
Terry
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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Have_Bike] Romford Ring Road

I have a fundamental dislike of being forced onto longer routes and tend to stick to direct routes whenever feasible.

Regards

Angela




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Subject: [Have_Bike] Romford Ring Road
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:00:05 +0100

MessageDear All,

Thanks to Ian for what I hope will be the first of many emails on the strategy.

Meanwhile, Musood contacted me earlier in the week an asked if we could consider the following - Bearing in mind the width of the traffic lanes on the ring road, he is considering moving the motor traffic dividing line over so as to give a little more room to the nearside lane to account for the cycle lane.

Do we agree? On reflection, I am coming to the view that they are not a lot of use and we'd do better having them removed and redoubling our efforts to have the alternative (albeit longer) routes made good.

What do you think?

regards
Terry

#25 From: mathewparkinson@...
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:52 pm
Subject: Thoughts
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Thank you for your email, the information about CTC and your role within the organisation.
I have given the idea of getting involved some consideration and decided not to proceed.  I need to prioritise my time and energies and having read with interest the communications between have_bike members decided that there are better qualified candidates out there.  Or at least ones with a firmer grip on political niceties!
 
I downloaded the draft cycling /walking strategies on Sunday and have still to fully get to grips with their import which speaks volumes about either my commitment to the cause or my already considerable workload!
 
The tone of many cyclists and pedestrians response to the strategies seems to me a little "cap in hand" if that is the correct phrase.  We seem to be saying "Oh, thank you very much for considering us in your plans" when to my way of thinking we should be pressing for something a little more radical.
 
May I say at this point that I am a middle aged car driving (60 miles per week), walking, jogging, bike riding, end terraced, labrador owning average Joe and NOT some far left eco warrior with anarchy in his heart.
 
I did a snap survey at work (40 people) to find out why people who lived within one to ten miles of work did not cycle to work even when good facilities exist i.e parking sheds and shower/locker rooms etc.  The overwhelming response was that they believed there are too many cars on the road to make cycling safe and the weather is generally "pissy"
 
Well we can't do much about the weather but there doesn't seem to be anything in the strategies to actually discourage car use and ownership.  The inference seems to me that both cyclists and pedestrians should be required to protect themselves from the driver!  This would appear to be madness to me.  Until we nationally adopt some scheme whereby drivers who are in collision with pedestrians or cyclists are held to be at fault until proven otherwise and radically increase the cost of car use and ownership we will be fighting a losing battle.
 
You've probably heard all this before but I'm very new to this game so forgive me if I am preaching to the converted.  I have no experience of dealing with campaigns or bureacrats in Town Halls which is why as I started out by saying I'll "leave it to the experts".
 
Mathew Parkinson

#24 From: "Angela Smith" <smith_angela_m@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:07 pm
Subject: RE: Romford Ring Road
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I have a fundamental dislike of being forced onto longer routes and tend to stick to direct routes whenever feasible.

Regards

Angela




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To: <Have_Bike@...>
Subject: [Have_Bike] Romford Ring Road
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:00:05 +0100

MessageDear All,

Thanks to Ian for what I hope will be the first of many emails on the strategy.

Meanwhile, Musood contacted me earlier in the week an asked if we could consider the following - Bearing in mind the width of the traffic lanes on the ring road, he is considering moving the motor traffic dividing line over so as to give a little more room to the nearside lane to account for the cycle lane.

Do we agree? On reflection, I am coming to the view that they are not a lot of use and we'd do better having them removed and redoubling our efforts to have the alternative (albeit longer) routes made good.

What do you think?

regards
Terry

#23 From: "Havering Cycling Campaign" <hcc@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:00 pm
Subject: Romford Ring Road
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Dear All,
 
Thanks to Ian for what I hope will be the first of many emails on the strategy.
 
Meanwhile, Musood contacted me earlier in the week an asked if we could consider the following - Bearing in mind the width of the traffic lanes on the ring road, he is considering moving the motor traffic dividing line over so as to give a little more room to the nearside lane to account for the cycle lane.
 
Do we agree? On reflection, I am coming to the view that they are not a lot of use and we'd do better having them removed and redoubling our efforts to have the alternative (albeit longer) routes made good.
 
What do you think?
 
regards
Terry

#22 From: <ian.m.law@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:13 am
Subject: RE: Cycling Strategy consultation
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Hi all

 

I haven't used this group mechanism before, (be gentle with me?) but spurred on by Terry's strategy comments, I thought I'd circulate mine. Collectively this may assist others. I've also urged a few office colleagues to respond, so hopefully the review will include a few unfamiliar names and a healthy response.

 

For those interested I finished the end to end cycle without incident. 15 days and 1073 miles, longest day 90 miles shortest 48 with an average of 71. It's a great way to see the country and thoroughly recommended. Bike fell apart, but the rider remained in one peace throughout.

 

Anyway back to the strategy comments. Happy reading & hope these help. NB I've added a couple of subsequent thoughts/comments in blue.

 

Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the recently published Havering Cycling Strategy document. Please consider each of my comments as follows:

 

1 – Of the five pictures on the strategy cover, two are of the same male cyclist, without a cycle helmet. Is this conveying the right message? (subsequently, I feel a little more thought needs to go into these pictures, maybe a female of similar age and an older man to reflect the diversity) 

2 – sec 1 – ‘reasons for promoting’ – should this include benefits to local employers, whereby, by encouraging local employees to cycle to their local jobs, there is a marked benefit to all parties, as expanded in the first three examples.

3 – sec 1.2 – Could this be expanded to establish the obvious reduction in motor vehicles.

4 – sec 1 – Should establish that Havering is the East London gateway to the Essex Countryside and as such is as greater significance to ‘through cyclists’ as it is to residents.

5 – Target 1 – Should be worded ‘set a target to improve year on year, through to 2010’

6 – Target 2 – Should be worded ‘produce and monitor a travel choice map’ to reflect ongoing changes.

7 - Target 4 – Would be better if the Council committed to listen to local cyclist in preference to simply meeting them.

8 – sec 4.1 & target 5 – Both of which suggest an increase of 20k over a 5 year period. In the context of the existing 40k’s worth of cycle lanes, this is a significant improvement. However, as 40k is such a woefully inadequate amount, the 20k increase is simply an insult. If Havering have any real commitment to improving the cyclist’s lot it would set a target 10 times as great. Go on, be a devil! Make it 200k! (I recognise Terry's view that experienced cyclist don't need cycle ways, but we clearly have a borough full of inexperienced cyclist (99% if you believe the figures) and the strategy should provide safer routes to encourage these would be cyclist  to, well cycle, as a first transport choice. Not providing cycle lanes is not going to get cyclist out. As we know, this is a very busy borough for transport)

8.1 – sec 4.1 & target 5 – As kilometres are not recognised in terms of UK roads, and one mile equals approximately 1.6 Kilometres, it is always going to look 60% bigger. Can we refer to miles only please?

9 – sec 5.1 – says ‘may be needed’ when clearly they ‘are’ needed. Where is the actual commitment?

10 – sec 5.3 – Suggests a review at all Train Stations in providing adequate cycle parking facilities. Is there not a case to also provide some cycle parking facilities at some strategic bus stops also?

10.1 – as sec 5.3 above - Can a commitment be established to work with the rail operators to provide the parking facilities, which also greatly benefit them by delivering passengers.

11 – sec 6.1 & target 9 – The adult training needs to be positive. It currently only offers an apology. There needs to be a commitment to provide these training sessions.

 

The following are areas I believe are not addressed or covered within the strategy, which should deserve a mention.

 

A – Where do Havering make provision to provide cycle paths to all schools? Where is the commitment to encourage the younger generation to cycle, and therefore provide the cyclists of the future?

B – Where is the commitment to reduce the ‘school run’ grid lock? Which would get the kids out of the car and onto their bikes?

C – There needs to be a statement which recognises the diversity of Havering’s residents and the need for that to be supported by the councillors, some of whom appear to take great delight in expressing and publishing objections to cyclists.

D - The document needs to spell out the next stage and how this is all to be achieved.

E – Where is the commitment to a cycling ‘single point of contact’? Currently there is no individual or department with a sole responsibility to co-ordinate cycle related requirements. This results in a process of moving from department to department until you get tired, which gets you nowhere.

F – Will Havering be offering any incentives to local business to encourage then to provide facilities for those cycling to work?

G – Where is the commitment to working in a co-ordinated fashion with adjacent boroughs and councils for the benefit of cyclists? There is little point in a cycle lane, or any other facility, which stops at the point of boundary change.

H – How serious are Havering Council. Where does it suggest that the boroughs own funds will be made available, on an annual basis, to further develop the boroughs cycle infrastructure during this period?

 

I would be interested in your comments?

 

Cheers

Ian

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 12 July 2005 23:25
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Subject: Re: [Have_Bike] Cycling Strategy consultation

Dear All,
 
I have read through the Draft Cycling Strategy, and offer the following comments for your reading pleasure.
 
There's quite a lot of it so brace yourself. It might be an idea to do this a few lines at a time:
 
If you have a hardcopy of the strategy, have this to hand. Otherwise you might like to open up the report online, the link to which is in the mail below from Jeff Stafford.
 
-oOo_
 
General
 
There seems to be two sets of numbering interleaved through the document: a), b), c) as well as 1, 2, 3. It would be easier to follow if these were integrated.
 
Section 1
Havering Council wishes to promote cycling for the following reasons:
 
All sensible. 1.6 Local context says it will take regards of the local context but this is not explained.
 
I would add into this statement: Apart from the major trunk roads running through the borough, the roads are relatively quiet and the terrain is mostly flat particularly to the south of the borough so the area is well suited to cycling and yet according to 2001 census figures, the numbers of people cycling are well below the National and London average and also significantly less than neighbouring Barking and Dagenham who have a more extensive cycle route network.
 
Section 2
To promote Cycling:
 
2.3 Assisting local organisations ...
Sensible but Havering council should also lead by example and provide proper facilities for
its own staff. Mention could also be made of BOOOST which gives income tax relief on the purchase of a new bike used to cycle to work.
 
2.4 Agreed but more could be done: The Travel Choices Map could be part of a pack containing: the Havering travel choices map, the relevant TfL cycle guide (map), cycle training information, a guide on utility cycling - to work, college, shopping etc. These packs could be available at the events mentioned, at libraries and distributed through the borough's cycle shops for example, attached to every new bike.
 
Target 1 To Conduct a survey of cycle use - Some information exists from the 2001 census which was collated by the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists. This showed the percentage of people cycling to work in the borough near the bottom in the country at below 1% compared with 1.5% in Barking and Dagenham.
 
 
Target 3 has no due date.
 
b) Engaging the cycling community through effective liasion.
There have been some good examples of effective liasion but there are many bad ones. we need
to have a measure of how effective the liasion is - We should start counting "non-compliances" where either we have pointed out the shortcomings of a plan and we have been ignored, or we weren't consulted AND the result is either a cycle facility that is sub-standard or a highway rearrangement that poses a hazard to cyclists. we should have a target to measure these and see that they reduce.
 
c) Improving and lengthening cycle routes
Strongly supported. I would question the claim that there are 40km of routes. Does this
count all the gaps? To the best of my knowledge none of the routes are continuous nor do they connect with each other.
 
4.2 ASLs Havering council seems to have more than its share of ASLs without feeder lanes.
 
4.3 Greenways. These are great for recreation and for getting people used to cycling but in terms of helping the environment, the real benefit comes from encouraging people to cycle where they otherwise would have driven - to the shops, to work, to the sports centre. Let's not lose sight of that.
 
d) Cycle parking. Agreed and recent progress noted.
 
e) Proficiency training. This needs MUCH more prominence in the strategy. Redbridge council offered free adult training in 2004/5 and trained 200 people. I saw this advertised even though I do not live in the borough. Reference is made to a poor take up of Havering's training offering - I have to wonder how it was publicised.
 
The benefit of succeeding with good training is that we would not need to extend the cycle route network much more than we have already. Competant, confident cyclists do not need cycle routes unless they are in unfamiliar territory.
 
Target 8 reduce cyclist casualties - I don't see how the council can directly influence this. It would be more pertinent to have a zero target for cyclists using cycle routes. (As discouragement for implementing cycle lanes that run from the pavement into a busy, narrow road)
 
Target 9 continue to offer training - I would like to see a more challenging annual target for training both child and adult cyclists. eg To actively promote free cycle training to adults and children. Children (present numbers + 10% per year), Adults 50 + 20% per year.
 
Target 10 cycle audits for planning applications. Agreed.
 
target 11 deliver CLG wish lists. Agreed.
 
Target 12 planning applications provide for cyclists, Agreed.
 
Also, in order to encourage cycle-thinking in all traffic planning reports, I would like to see the planning report templates include prompts for the planner to consider the impact of each and every change on the cyclist.
 
-oOo-
 
That's all I could think of.
 
I look forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards
Terry
 
 
 
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> Does that sound reasonable?
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#21 From: "Havering Cycling Campaign" <hcc@...>
Date: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:24 pm
Subject: Re: Cycling Strategy consultation
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Dear All,
 
I have read through the Draft Cycling Strategy, and offer the following comments for your reading pleasure.
 
There's quite a lot of it so brace yourself. It might be an idea to do this a few lines at a time:
 
If you have a hardcopy of the strategy, have this to hand. Otherwise you might like to open up the report online, the link to which is in the mail below from Jeff Stafford.
 
-oOo_
 
General
 
There seems to be two sets of numbering interleaved through the document: a), b), c) as well as 1, 2, 3. It would be easier to follow if these were integrated.
 
Section 1
Havering Council wishes to promote cycling for the following reasons:
 
All sensible. 1.6 Local context says it will take regards of the local context but this is not explained.
 
I would add into this statement: Apart from the major trunk roads running through the borough, the roads are relatively quiet and the terrain is mostly flat particularly to the south of the borough so the area is well suited to cycling and yet according to 2001 census figures, the numbers of people cycling are well below the National and London average and also significantly less than neighbouring Barking and Dagenham who have a more extensive cycle route network.
 
Section 2
To promote Cycling:
 
2.3 Assisting local organisations ...
Sensible but Havering council should also lead by example and provide proper facilities for
its own staff. Mention could also be made of BOOOST which gives income tax relief on the purchase of a new bike used to cycle to work.
 
2.4 Agreed but more could be done: The Travel Choices Map could be part of a pack containing: the Havering travel choices map, the relevant TfL cycle guide (map), cycle training information, a guide on utility cycling - to work, college, shopping etc. These packs could be available at the events mentioned, at libraries and distributed through the borough's cycle shops for example, attached to every new bike.
 
Target 1 To Conduct a survey of cycle use - Some information exists from the 2001 census which was collated by the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists. This showed the percentage of people cycling to work in the borough near the bottom in the country at below 1% compared with 1.5% in Barking and Dagenham.
 
 
Target 3 has no due date.
 
b) Engaging the cycling community through effective liasion.
There have been some good examples of effective liasion but there are many bad ones. we need
to have a measure of how effective the liasion is - We should start counting "non-compliances" where either we have pointed out the shortcomings of a plan and we have been ignored, or we weren't consulted AND the result is either a cycle facility that is sub-standard or a highway rearrangement that poses a hazard to cyclists. we should have a target to measure these and see that they reduce.
 
c) Improving and lengthening cycle routes
Strongly supported. I would question the claim that there are 40km of routes. Does this
count all the gaps? To the best of my knowledge none of the routes are continuous nor do they connect with each other.
 
4.2 ASLs Havering council seems to have more than its share of ASLs without feeder lanes.
 
4.3 Greenways. These are great for recreation and for getting people used to cycling but in terms of helping the environment, the real benefit comes from encouraging people to cycle where they otherwise would have driven - to the shops, to work, to the sports centre. Let's not lose sight of that.
 
d) Cycle parking. Agreed and recent progress noted.
 
e) Proficiency training. This needs MUCH more prominence in the strategy. Redbridge council offered free adult training in 2004/5 and trained 200 people. I saw this advertised even though I do not live in the borough. Reference is made to a poor take up of Havering's training offering - I have to wonder how it was publicised.
 
The benefit of succeeding with good training is that we would not need to extend the cycle route network much more than we have already. Competant, confident cyclists do not need cycle routes unless they are in unfamiliar territory.
 
Target 8 reduce cyclist casualties - I don't see how the council can directly influence this. It would be more pertinent to have a zero target for cyclists using cycle routes. (As discouragement for implementing cycle lanes that run from the pavement into a busy, narrow road)
 
Target 9 continue to offer training - I would like to see a more challenging annual target for training both child and adult cyclists. eg To actively promote free cycle training to adults and children. Children (present numbers + 10% per year), Adults 50 + 20% per year.
 
Target 10 cycle audits for planning applications. Agreed.
 
target 11 deliver CLG wish lists. Agreed.
 
Target 12 planning applications provide for cyclists, Agreed.
 
Also, in order to encourage cycle-thinking in all traffic planning reports, I would like to see the planning report templates include prompts for the planner to consider the impact of each and every change on the cyclist.
 
-oOo-
 
That's all I could think of.
 
I look forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards
Terry
 
 
 
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Roding Valley Nature Reserve Ride: Sunday July 17th
Meet 11am Wanstead Station
(95% off-road ride up the Roding Valley into unknown territory in Essex
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Date: Wed Jul 6, 2005 9:44 pm
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Dear All,
Thinking about responding to the strategy document.
We could go through it on our own in detail and post our views here before responding.
That way we could develop a few more ideas?
Does that sound reasonable?
Terry
Yes, Terry, I think that is a first-class idea.  No doubt, we shall all see points that others have picked up and we have missed.  We don’t all want to send in identical responses, but we can emphasise what is most important to each of us.
Regards
David
PS James has acknowledged that the Tall Stands in Collier Row have had the ‘tapping rail’ placed too high.  They shall be replaced at the Mfrs expense.  I see this as an opportunity to have a plate installed higher up (see diagram) for instructions on how to use for the uninitiated – and/or advertising: i.e. Join Havering Cycling Campaign!!!
I shall ask for the plate to be joined to the tubes at four points only, so as to leave additional gaps for attachment of locks, cables etc. 
 

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Date: Tue Jul 5, 2005 10:34 pm
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Dear James

As I pointed out in my previous e-mail, the ‘tall & narrow’ stands have been constructed in a manner that shall preclude the parking of a Bicycle in the ‘seat & pedal-brace’ fashion – thereby defeating the whole object of the Design.

The LCN Design Manual shows that the ‘Tapping Rail’ should be situated 100mm above the ground surface.  I haven’t managed to visit the location yet but, if the Stands have been manufactured to the required 1450mm overall height then, from the photographs, I calculate that the Rail has been installed at about 450mm from the ground.  I suggest that this could be at an ideal level to tempt Children or Youths to clamber on to it.

I have manipulated the image u digitally to show approximately where it should be situated for the Stand to work satisfactorily as intended.

In view of the lengthy discussions that have taken place and the wealth of annotated diagrams that I have supplied, I am at a loss to understand how such an error could have occurred; perhaps you have some explanation.  Can the Rail position be corrected with the Stand in situ or shall it need to be removed for alteration or replacement?

I have also noted several anomalies in your Report to the Councillors, so I shall be writing to you to point these out in detail in due course.

I look forward to your reply.

Regards

David

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Thinking about responding to the the strategy document.

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responding.

That way we could develop a few more ideas?

Does that sound reasonable?

Terry

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30 June 2005

 

 

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The Recorder

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Dear Sir

CSP Physical Activity ‘League Table.’

It is unfortunate that your article (Recorder w/e 24 June) appeared to focus on Cycling, when the CSP survey findings related equally to walking activity.

Some of the reasons for the reluctance of more of the public to take up Cycling despite the sums spent on supposed ‘facilities’ were set out clearly in my Letter that you kindly published in October last year.  I attach a copy by way of a reminder.  The thrust of it was that virtually none of the established Borough Cycling Infrastructure has been expertly designed or implemented: consequently, it is counter-productive.

It is also my contention that most Bikes generally available to the Public in UK. are hardly suitable for everyday use; the Trade seems intent on catering almost exclusively for the youth market.  Call in to any Bike Shop, and one is greeted by wall-to-wall impractical ‘Mountain-Bikes’ or their derivatives – which I regard as little better than toys.  “Slight-incline Cycles” might be a better term, as few may see anything steeper!  To acquire a properly-equipped, user-friendly, low-maintenance adult model, I was obliged to go to The Netherlands – although such Bikes are now increasingly imported here, if one knows where to look.

Another element is the failure of Employers to provide incentives for their Staff to Cycle to work – by providing secure Bike-Parking; adequate washing, changing & storage facilities and offering a competitive mileage allowance for use of one’s own Cycle on Company Business etc.  Enlightened Firms that have taken these simple – and relatively inexpensive – measures have found many benefits in the performance, low absenteeism and general health of their Employees, and the results are well-documented (visit www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3949).

As the Borough’s largest single Employer, what is Havering Council doing to set an example and encourage its own Staff to Cycle?  For a long time, we local Activists have been asking for a few pounds to be spent installing coat hooks and a chair or small bench in the Staff Toilets to render them suitable for ‘freshening up’ after a few miles ride.  There could be Showers on some floors for those cycling in from further afield wishing to change their clothing.  All this has fallen on deaf ears and, despite the cited instance of the deputy Mayor, Cllr Jeff Stafford, how many of his Colleagues do we ever see riding?  

A few years ago, a ‘Green Travel Coordinator’ was appointed, to the accompaniment of a typical self-congratulatory publicity splash in the local Press.  Some months later, the young Lady concerned was surreptitiously assigned to other duties – so there was no further effort in this area.  

Instead of taking such a negative view, Cllr Eric Munday should be constructively addressing these anomalies.

Yours faithfully,

 

 

 

 

DAVID S GARFIELD

(Local Representative: CTC ‘Right to Ride’ Network)

 


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Date: Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:40 pm
Subject: RE: The piece that appeared in The RECORDER
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All,
 
Another thing to bear in mind is that the paper quotes me and the only thing I actually said that they printed was that I cycle 50 - 100 miles a week to work when possible.   The rest I did not say so if they decide to print any of your comments don't expect accuracy.
 
I strongly advise contributing towards the Cycling Strategy when it's published on the Council website http://www.havering.gov.uk starting from 4th July for 6 weeks.   Please don't let Cabinet Member gloat that nobody bothered to contribute when the consultation results are reported back to Cabinet later in the year.
 
Jeff
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Dear Colleagues

For those of you who maybe didn't see it, here is the piece that appeared in The RECORDER w/e 23 June.  If you reply, may I suggest that it could be mentioned that almost none of the Cycle-Infrastructure that has been installed to date is of the required standard – so is counter-productive.

Regards

David 

 


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Date: Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:16 am
Subject: Re: The piece that appeared in The RECORDER
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David,
 
It's a pity but I missed this. There's plenty to argue with about its content but there's no point in drafting a response now - the print deadline for letters etc is about Tuesday/Wednesday.
 
The best thing now is to repond to any responses in this week's edition.
 
Thanks for bringing it up.
 
Regards
Terry
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Dear Colleagues

For those of you who maybe didn't see it, here is the piece that appeared in The RECORDER w/e 23 June.  If you reply, may I suggest that it could be mentioned that almost none of the Cycle-Infrastructure that has been installed to date is of the required standard – so is counter-productive.

Regards

David 

 


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Date: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:23 pm
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Dear Colleagues

For those of you who maybe didn't see it, here is the piece that appeared in The RECORDER w/e 23 June.  If you reply, may I suggest that it could be mentioned that almost none of the Cycle-Infrastructure that has been installed to date is of the required standard – so is counter-productive.

Regards

David 

 


#11 From: "Havering Cycling Campaign" <hcc@...>
Date: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: H'ch High St situ.
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Hello David,
 
I think what we'd have to do is change the shape of the ASL to allow cyclists to move up the inside with the filter traffic and then move into the outside ASL to go straight on. So the outside lane ASL would have to be longer. One would have to be very careful of the lights changing.
 
I think you may be right that the left filter has been in situ at Billet Lane for a long time, but it is still a significant obstacle for inexperienced riders.
 
Any other views?
 
Regards
Terry
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Dear Terry
Regarding the H’ch High St situ., if memory serves, I think the matters I wanted to bring to Cunningham’s notice were:—
• There could be an exemption for Cycle-users wishing to proceed straight ahead from the left-hand lanes in question.  However, this’ll be no good if there is a different Traffic Signal for each of the lanes (i.e. Vehicles in the left lane may be able to turn, while the straight ahead lane is still halted) as it could mean a rider sitting there in the ASL and receiving a shunt from the rear from an inattentive Driver.
• I’m also concerned that there is not enough advance notice of the lane discipline: if there is a long-ish traffic queue, the carriageway arrow markings can be obscured.  Any elevated signs at the junction cannot be seen clearly from a distance.
Hasn’t there always been a separate left-turn-only lane at Billet Lane junction?  I can always remember moving into the right lane when proceeding eastwards through that point.
Regards
David
 

 


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Dear Terry
Regarding the H’ch High St situ., if memory serves, I think the matters I wanted to bring to Cunningham’s notice were:—
• There could be an exemption for Cycle-users wishing to proceed straight ahead from the left-hand lanes in question.  However, this’ll be no good if there is a different Traffic Signal for each of the lanes (i.e. Vehicles in the left lane may be able to turn, while the straight ahead lane is still halted) as it could mean a rider sitting there in the ASL and receiving a shunt from the rear from an inattentive Driver.
• I’m also concerned that there is not enough advance notice of the lane discipline: if there is a long-ish traffic queue, the carriageway arrow markings can be obscured.  Any elevated signs at the junction cannot be seen clearly from a distance.
Hasn’t there always been a separate left-turn-only lane at Billet Lane junction?  I can always remember moving into the right lane when proceeding eastwards through that point.
Regards
David
 

 


#9 From: "David S Garfield" <diesgy@...>
Date: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:57 pm
Subject: Cycle Paths getting cleaned
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Hello everybody
Do cycle paths ever get cleaned? And if yes how often?
Just lately the Havering CTC have been using the cycle path along the 
A127 (Southend bound) between Hall Lane and Folkes Lane to reach a new 
bridleway. And the cycle path never seems to be clear of glass and 
other rubbish.
 
Safe Cycling
Brian Stevens 
 
Brian, I suggest that you take this up with Streetcare: streetcare@... giving precise locations and, if you have a digital camera or mobile ‘phone with camera, you could do worse than send in a pic. of any trouble spots.  Copy the report to Andrew.Mann@... – who is the lead member for Streetcare.  I take it that you are still resident outside Havering; if not, please copy it also to your local Councillor(s.)
 
Regards,
 
David S Garfield  
 

 


#8 From: "Angela Smith" <smith_angela_m@...>
Date: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:19 pm
Subject: RE: Cycle Path cleaning
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In my experience cycle paths are seldom if ever swept - sometimes if they are cycle lanes on roads they get swept as part of the road. 

Incidentally, where do Havering CTC meet?  I might even get on my bike one day if I have somewhere to go!

Regards

Angela




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Hello everybody
Do cycle paths ever get cleaned? And if yes how often?
Just lately the Havering CTC have been using the cycle path along the
A127 (Southend bound) between Hall Lane and Folkes Lane to reach a new
bridleway. And the cycle path never seems to be clear of glass and
other rubbish.

Safe Cycling
Brian Stevens



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Date: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:44 pm
Subject: Cycle Path cleaning
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Hello everybody
Do cycle paths ever get cleaned? And if yes how often?
Just lately the Havering CTC have been using the cycle path along the
A127 (Southend bound) between Hall Lane and Folkes Lane to reach a new
bridleway. And the cycle path never seems to be clear of glass and
other rubbish.

Safe Cycling
Brian Stevens

#6 From: "David S Garfield" <diesgy@...>
Date: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:12 pm
Subject: A1306 Junction with Cherry Tree Lane, Rainham
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Dear Angela

A1306 Junction with Cherry Tree Lane, Rainham

I think you’ll find that the current works at the junction are part of the A1306 “Environmental Improvement Programme” second phase and, as such, are funded by TfL.  That doesn’t justify wasting money in the way you describe, but at least it’s not Havering money — unless they overspend like they did on the first phase!

Regards

David


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Date: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: Another waste of Council money
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Angela,

I have asked the question of the Council department involved, I'll let
you know the answer as soon as I have one.

Jeff

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>>> smith_angela_m@... 22/06/2005 14:25:56 >>>

I noticed today that the perfectly adequate pavement on New Road near
Cherry Tree Lane is being converted to bricks - no doubt at enormous
expense, never mind the inconvenience of local residents - which is
another case of fixing something that wasn't broke.  I wish they'd spent
the money on fixing the cycle path.
Does anyone know the Council plan for the Cherry Tree Lane/New Road
intersection?  There have been coned areas here and there for weeks but
no plan seems to be evolving.
Regards
Angela


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I noticed today that the perfectly adequate pavement on New Road near Cherry Tree Lane is being converted to bricks - no doubt at enormous expense, never mind the inconvenience of local residents - which is another case of fixing something that wasn't broke.  I wish they'd spent the money on fixing the cycle path.

Does anyone know the Council plan for the Cherry Tree Lane/New Road intersection?  There have been coned areas here and there for weeks but no plan seems to be evolving.

Regards

Angela


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Subject: All Party Parliamentary Cycling Group elects new Chair - APPCG press release
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ALL PARTY PARLIAMENTARY CYCLING GROUP (APPCG)

CHAIR: Emily Thornberry MP.

VICE-CHAIRS: Gwynn Prosser MP, Andrew Robathan, & Andrew Stunnell MP

SECRETARY: Lord Berkeley MP TREASURER: Viscount Craigavon

 

 

20th June 2005

 

All Party Parliamentary Cycling Group elects new Chair

 

The All Party Parliamentary Cycling Group has elected as its new Chair, Emily Thornberry (Lab), the newly elected MP for Islington South and Finsbury.

 

Emily said “I shall use every opportunity I’m given to promote this green, healthy and efficient means of transport”.

 

The announcement came after MPs and Peers marked Bike Week with their annual Bike Ride on Tuesday 14th June, which this year took them into Westminster from Russell Square. 

 

Secretary of the All Party Cycling Group, Lord Berkeley, welcomed attendees to the ride, in particular the new Minister for cycling, Derek Twigg MP. Lord Berkeley noted that Mr Twigg’s responsibilities include rail as well as cycling, and hoped that the two could be better linked in future. The Minister himself used the occasion to launch a new leaflet for employers telling them about the tax incentives available for promoting cycle use for work-related travel.

 

The group’s three vice-chairs are Gwyn Prosser (Lab), Andrew Rowbathan (Con) and Andrew Stunnell (LD).  Lord Berkeley, Lord Craigavon and former Transport Secretary Sir George Young MP have been re-elected as the group’s Secretary, Treasurer and Patron respectively.

 

Ends

 

Contact Emily Thornberry on 07885 476 387

 

For more information including photography contact Yannick Read on 0870 873 0063

 

Notes to editors

 

  • This press release has been sent on behalf of the All Party Cycling Group by CTC – the UK’s national cyclists’ organisation. www.ctc.org.uk

 


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#2 From: David Garfield <diesgy@...>
Date: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:12 pm
Subject: Fwd: Tall Parking Stands - Edited
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Hello, Jeff…….

I still didn’t manage to get on to that URL – but I’m presuming that it was the Cycling Action Plan to be presented to the Cabinet.

The only suggestion for you, therefore, is to bring up the question of Officer Training in the Design and Implementation of Cycle-friendly Infrastructure. 

I attended a CTC ‘Spring Rights Conference’ in Godalming a few weeks ago: one of the presentations (by Alex Solly) was in regard to the CTC’s ‘Cycle-friendly Infrastructure’ publication which has undergone an update.  He mentioned that they had devised a Course which can be offered to Council Highway Engineers — long overdue, in my opinion.  You could make some suggestion that a Budget should be identified to allow Officers to attend such a Course, if and when it becomes available.

For more details of the Conference and the above item, you could call Cherry Allen or Roger Geffen (Campaigns and Policy Manager: 01483 520 754) at CTC HQ.  Mention my name as a ‘Right to Ride’ Rep. if you wish, and explain the situation and the fact that you are a Councillor — or check www.ctc.org.uk .

As you may be aware, the Officers have installed a couple of the tall & narrow Design of Parking-Stand in Collier Row (as far as they could from my own place!) but the dopes have set the ‘tapping rail’ far too high — such that it would prevent the intended pedal-brace action!  I’m hoping to attach the shot with this.

I’ve opened up the discussion group (Have_Bike@...), but am not yet in a position to invite participants to subscribe.  I’ll get on to that in a day or two.

Regards

David     

                                                         



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#1 From: David Garfield <diesgy@...>
Date: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:04 pm
Subject: Cycling Action Plan to be presented to the Cabinet
diesgy
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Hello, Jeff…….

I still didn’t manage to get on to that URL – but I’m presuming that it was the Cycling Action Plan to be presented to the Cabinet.

The only suggestion for you, therefore, is to bring up the question of Officer Training in the Design and Implementation of Cycle-friendly Infrastructure. 

I attended a CTC ‘Spring Rights Conference’ in Godalming a few weeks ago: one of the presentations (by Alex Solly) was in regard to the CTC’s ‘Cycle-friendly Infrastructure’ publication which has undergone an update.  He mentioned that they had devised a Course which can be offered to Council Highway Engineers — long overdue, in my opinion.  You could make some suggestion that a Budget should be identified to allow Officers to attend such a Course, if and when it becomes available.

For more details of the Conference and the above item, you could call Cherry Allen or Roger Geffen (Campaigns and Policy Manager: 01483 520 754) at CTC HQ.  Mention my name as a ‘Right to Ride’ Rep. if you wish, and explain the situation and the fact that you are a Councillor — or check www.ctc.org.uk .

As you may be aware, the Officers have installed a couple of the tall & narrow Design of Parking-Stand in Collier Row (as far as they could from my own place!) but the dopes have set the ‘tapping rail’ far too high — such that it would prevent the intended pedal-brace action!  I’m hoping to attach the shot with this.

I’ve opened up the discussion group (Have_Bike@...), but am not yet in a position to invite participants to subscribe.  I’ll get on to that in a day or two.

Regards

David     

                                                         


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