Hiya - just to let you know that I'm here :-D

AX

Alison,

Fantastic.

How does the Daled file look to you?

Best wishes,

Mick

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "ladymcbeth627"
<alison.cross2@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya - just to let you know that I'm here :-D
>
> AX
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Frankel

To: HebrewForTarotReaders@...

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:53 PM

Subject: [HebrewForTarotReaders] Re: Hi Mick

Alison,

Fantastic.

How does the Daled file look to you?

Best wishes,

Mick

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@yahoogroups.co.uk, "ladymcbeth627"
<alison.cross2@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya - just to let you know that I'm here :-D
>
> AX
>

Alison,

I had a go at embedding a link to the sound file into the web page but
I couldn't get it to work. To be honest, I haven't got a clue how to
make it work.

But I've uploaded the daled.wav file into the files section.

Any ideas to try? Please feel free to have a go yourself.

In the meantime, I'll upload the next lesson with separate .wav file.

Best wishes,

Mick

From: Michael Frankel

To: HebrewForTarotReaders@...

Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:47 PM

Subject: [HebrewForTarotReaders] Re: Hi Mick

Alison,

I had a go at embedding a link to the sound file into the web page but
I couldn't get it to work. To be honest, I haven't got a clue how to
make it work.

But I've uploaded the daled.wav file into the files section.

Any ideas to try? Please feel free to have a go yourself.

In the meantime, I'll upload the next lesson with separate .wav file.

Best wishes,

Mick

Alison,

:~)

After a bit of messing around, I think I've got it to work.

I checked the properties of the uploaded Daled.wav file and created a
hyperlink to it in the Daled.doc then converted that to a web page.

Please give it a try to see if it works from your computer as well.

Thanks very much for the initial idea :~)

Best wishes,

Mick

Everyone,

Welcome to the group :~)

Please start off by reading the introduction in the files section.

If you're happy with that, please work your way slowly through the
lessons. There are pronunciation guides for the first few lessons and
I'll be uploading more over the next week.

You are testing out this material for me and I'm very grateful to you.

Could I ask you to post any general questions or comments to the group
so that I can build up a list of "Frequently Asked Questions". Thanks.

Best wishes,

Mick

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "Michael Frankel"
<Frankelmick@...> wrote:
> After a bit of messing around, I think I've got it to work.

Hey, Mick - Thanks for letting me in! :-)

Wouldn't preempt what you want to do. But if you can convert (As is
pretty well convention) .wav files to something SMALLER. i.e. "Real
Audio", MP3 etc. (1/10th the file size) might help, eventually! :-)

I must admit the casual search re. MODERN ways to EMBED (sic) sound
in a Wewbsite were predicatably not that all that encouraging. LOL.
Especially for the more novice websters...

Perhaps <embed src="Dream On.mp3" autostart="true" hidden="yes"> :-D

I sense the ideal would be just to have a BUTTON next to the Hebrew
Letter? But I'm sure our "collective", will be able to HELP. ;-)

Chris/Macavity

P.S. At the risk of a little self-publicity, I don't mind donating a
few .gif files of Hebrew Letter etc. (Larger if need be!)

http://www.macavity.eclipse.co.uk/Tarot/articles-home.shtml

I do like this particular Compact/Blocky Hebrew Character font, that
appears to be ESSENTIALLY public domain... :-P

Mick,

Thanks for the invitation :~)

Site looks excellent :~)

Karen

Everyone,

Thanks to all of you for joining this group and for the lovely things
that you said :~)

You are helping me to test out the material so I'm very grateful.

If you have any comments or if you spot anything at all that could be
improved, please post a note to the group or contact me off-list if
you'd prefer.

I hope to build up a "frequently asked questions" section so please
feel free to ask anything at all. If you don't understand something
in the course, it's because I haven't explained it clearly enough.

- - -

At the moment, the course just deals with learning to recognise the
Hebrew letters and learning how to pronounce them in the Classical
Hebrew Ashkenazi tradition.

But you will pick up some Hebrew vocabulary and I've tried to explain
how Hebrew uses prefixes.

There is no Tarot content yet, nor is there any mention of Jewish
mysticism. That will come later.

My next task is to finish recording and uploading the pronunciation
guides.

I hope that the course materials are useful to you.

Best wishes,

Mick

Chris,

I'm nearly half-way through recording and uploading the sound files and
the space-o-meter is only up to 20% so it doesn't look like space is an
issue at the moment.

But I'll have a go at converting a file to mp3 to see if it's
appreciably smaller, thanks.

Best wishes,

Mick

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "Chris R" <jhcr@...>
wrote: (respectfully snipped)
> But if you can convert (As is
> pretty well convention) .wav files to something SMALLER. i.e. "Real
> Audio", MP3 etc. (1/10th the file size) might help, eventually! :-)
>

Just to let you know I'm here too.... Thanks for the invite, Mick!

Alison (the other one - in Leeds)

I’m here, too J Great idea, Mick!

Christiane

Chris,

I've now uploaded all the sound files in mp3. You're right they're
1/10th the size of the wav. files.

So with all the lessons and all the sound files, there's still only
3% used up on the space-o-meter :~)

Next, I plan to begin the Tarot section here.

Thanks and best wishes,

Mick


--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "Chris R" <jhcr@...>
wrote: (Respectfully snipped)
>
> --- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "Michael Frankel"
> <Frankelmick@> wrote:
> > After a bit of messing around, I think I've got it to work.
>
> Hey, Mick - Thanks for letting me in! :-)
>
> Wouldn't preempt what you want to do. But if you can convert (As is
> pretty well convention) .wav files to something SMALLER. i.e. "Real
> Audio", MP3 etc. (1/10th the file size) might help, eventually! :-)
>

Alison/Christiane and everyone,

Welcome to Hebrew for Tarot Readers :~)

Please start with the Introduction in the files section.

Then work your way through the lessons. You can check your
pronunciation for the words at the end of the lessons using the sound
files.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments at all. If
you can post your comments here, that would be great so I can start
to build up a Frequently Asked Questions section.

You're helping me to test out this material so please let me know how
you're getting on, thanks.

Best wishes,

Mick

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "C. Hayes"
<cc.hayes@...> wrote:
>
> I'm here, too :-) Great idea, Mick!
>
> Christiane
>

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "Michael Frankel"
<Frankelmick@...> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I've now uploaded all the sound files in mp3. You're right they're
> 1/10th the size of the wav. files.

Hi Mick - I suspect it can only HELP in the long run? :-D I Don't want
to belabour such a point though - There's always "technical advice" to
be had here and elsewhere? But inveterate "back room boys/gals"... :-P

Cheers, Chris

P.S. If of course you DID keep the wav files, nothing is ever "lost".
But, if you didn't, I admit I did "dump" all my "classic rock" VINYL
LP's to mp3! Perhaps I'll sell the originals to an "MC" or "DJ"! :-O

I am here too Mick and everyone...

Looking good!

Love
Emma

Emma,

Thank you. I'm delighted to see you here :~)

All the lessons and the sound files are now uploaded to the files
section.

Please take your time going through them. If you wouldn't mind, please
post any comments or questions on the list so that I can build up
some "Frequently Asked Questions".

You are helping me to test out this material so I'd be very grateful if
you spot anything that you think could be improved.

The next stage is for me to put together my thoughts on how the Hebrew
Alphabet has been linked to the 22 Tarot Trumps.

Best wishes,

Mick

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., Emma Sunerton-Burl
<emma@...> wrote:
>
> I am here too Mick and everyone...
>
> Looking good!
>
> Love
> Emma
>

Everyone,

I've created a "Tarot" folder in the files section here and I've
uploaded my understanding of how people have created correspondences
between the Hebrew letters and the Tarot Trumps.

I start off with the letter Aleph.

Ideally, you'll go through everything in the "Lessons" folder first but
if you fancy taking a look at the overview, please let me know what you
think.

This is really just to get the ball rolling. I intend to upload one
file for each Hebrew letter. It's very much a work-in-progress so
please let me know what you think.

Thanks and best wishes,

Mick

Alison,

Excellent idea.

I was thinking about including somewhere here how the letters look in
different fonts. Combining the two ideas, I've created a new folder
here called Writing the Letters.

I've put together and uploaded a file which has the letter in
different fonts and my shaky freehand step-by-step Aleph :~)

What do you think?

- - -

One thing to be aware of. When people write Ivrit (Modern Hebrew),
they use another version of the Hebrew Alphabet known as "script".
This won't feature at all in this course.

Best wishes,

Mick


--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "Alison Cross"
<alison.cross2@...> wrote:
>
> Mick - what about a document that maybe shows us how we write/form
these letters?  For example, is Aleph formed by drawing the diagonal
from top left down to bottom right and then adding on the top 'head'
and then the bottom 'leg'?
>
> This could help us when we need to write the letters down?
>
> AliX
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Emma Sunerton-Burl

To: HebrewForTarotReaders@...

Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:27 PM

Subject: [HebrewForTarotReaders] Aleph

Hi Mick and everyone

Just been looking at the Aleph and its correspondences that you outline Mick, very interesting. I thought I would look up a little about it as it relates to the Thoth and share some of my thoughts here.

Aleph is attributed in the Thoth to the Fool as the Golden dawn did. It is the beginning and the emptyness and also source of all that follows in the remainder of the major arcana. Some how it feels right to me - the thought that aleph doesn't have its own sound but allows vowels to be said alone kind of sits well with it also being the fool with all that myriad of potential there just waiting for a force of some sort to nudge it into a direction. Apparently Aleph means ox - I am not sure quite how this would fit though.

Still working through the letters 10 - 22 so am getting there - this is great Mick - bitesize chunks making it possible to digest and remember. Thanks

Love and blessings
Emma

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Emma,

Thank you so much for posting your thoughts here. I'm glad that you
found the Aleph document in the Tarot section useful.

I struggled to condense it into a bite-size chunk, as you rightly
say :~)

I'd be very grateful if you could continue to give your thoughts on
the Thoth correspondences for the other letters as well as we go
through them here.

- - -

The silent Aleph fits perfectly with the invisible element of Air for
me, hence the connection to The Fool.

Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh gives these meanings for Aleph, "oxen,
thousand, teaching, master." He describes the Aleph as looking like
the yoke of an ox.

I would certainly recommend this site as a source of deep knowledge
about the Hebrew letters:

http://www.inner.org/hebleter/default.htm

Rabbi Ginsburgh says, "The twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet
are the building blocks of creation."

- - -

I'm so pleased that you're enjoying working through the lessons.

Thanks and best wishes,

Mick

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., Emma Sunerton-Burl
<emma@...> wrote: (Respectfully snipped)
>
> Aleph is attributed in the Thoth to the Fool as the Golden dawn did.

Alison,

Must have been a big step forward to recognise that Aleph is a letter.

I can only quote Rabbi Ginsburgh who says, "The ox, the most basic
animal image, symbolizes worldly reality in general."

We start to get very deep, very quickly with these Hebrew letters :~)

The image of Aleph is of a connection between the spiritual and the
worldly. That and the fact that Aleph has a numerical value of 1 has
led people to connect Aleph to I The Magician. Perhaps Eliphas Lévi
thought along those lines?

Thanks and best wishes,

Mick

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "Alison Cross"
<alison.cross2@...> wrote: (Respectfully snipped)
>
> It took me a while to get to grips with the fact that Aleph is NOT
> a vowel... As far as the oxen association goes, I don't know why
> an ox would be associated with the primary consonant. Wealth?
> Ownership? Status?
>

--- In HebrewForTarotReaders@..., "Alison Cross"
<alison.cross2@...> wrote:
>
> Mick - yes, I kept thinking to myself - aleph at the beginning of a
word? But words can't start with a vowel? I am to learning Hebrew
what Homer Simpson is to classical ballet, methinks :-D

I think the "Alef Business" is one of the harder concepts re. SEVERAL
languages of the region. Hey I only know this, 'cos of my interest in
learning Egyptian Hieroglyphs. The same feature exists in Arabic too.

(Hopefully) Not to distub flow, but the Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph is quite interesting.
Notwithstanding the "Family of Man" thing too <sniff> :-)

The glottal stop thing is interesting - As exhibited in the "Cokney"
Bot'tle (Glass thing containing BEER!) and sometimes cited as a near
analogy to the general idea of "something not pronounced" effecting
surrounding letters! Maybe I should stop watching "East Enders". :-P

Chris/Macavity

Of course the Anglo/WELSH(!) - Scots too, mebbe (LOL) have a natural
advantage in pronouncing a VARIETY of "foreign" languages... <VBG>