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Re: [HurdyGurdyForum] Re: New England region of the U.S.

Dear Jon,
   You mention unison chanter tuning as being "harsh".I have not found that to be the case at all ONCE I got each of the two unison chanters perfectly tuned with no wave interference pulsing.Of course,doing this took HOURS.The perfect unison blend is awesome.No harshness,tension,pulsing...Robert

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Jon <jon@...> wrote:

From: Jon <jon@...>
Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Re: New England region of the U.S.
To: HurdyGurdyForum@...
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 2:34 PM

Robert and Mary,

My HurdyGurdyCrafters.com Monarch kit - came with strings for unison G/C tuning only because I requested G/C tuning. 

The Monarch instrument can be tuned down to D/G just fine, or even up to A/D (which I am considering so that I have three different intruments: G/C (Wren), D/G (Weiss) and A/D (the Monarch) for playing in my Celtic band - hurdy-gurdy, Galician gaita bagpipes, crumhorn, French bombard, penny whistle, fiddle, guitar, one-row button accordion, bodhran).

My G/C Wren is octave tuned, i.e. chanters g and g'. I MUCH prefer octave G/C and octave D/G tuning.  I find unison G/C tuning rather harsh ragardless of the instrument used, and D/G octave tuning is pretty standard. 

Would love to have a 3-chanter D/G instrument with chanterelles tuned d, d' and d" like the Baroni model that Neil Nrook is playing here  on YouTube - but first must save up $5,000.00 USD in a morbid economy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUKY41JBb7w

Jon

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., robert loechler <robertloechler@...> wrote:
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> Dear Mary,
>    My hurdygurdycrafters HG is a modified Monarch kit model.the standard $999 do-it-yourself kit with a slightly larger body and a chanter bridge with wheels for adjustment which I consider VERY important.Also,the 2 chanter melody strings are unison 040 gauge.I started with an octave 025 chanter with the standard 040 initially.BUT,it was nearly impossible to get them tuned right.Plus,the chanter melody volume was far too weak to balance against the two drones.It works MUCH better -is far louder,balanced,and easy to tune with two 040 unison chanters.Incidentally,my 4 drones are:low D,G(fourth above the low D) as wound strings on the far side of the wheel.In French:Gros and Petit Bourdon.And,a gut g mouche(one octave higher than the Petit Bourdon G) plus a gut d Trompette drone(which is the buzzing bridge).However,I have been experimenting with the Trompette placing it at an A(a fourth lower) when playing in D tuning with the low D bass drone.Also,I have
>  taken it down to a G(a fifth lower) and thus in unison with the low G Petit Bourdon when playing in G tuning.Finally,obviously,I chose a D/G tuning scheme rather than the higher G/C scheme.Plus,I chose to have a high c# upper row chromatic note in the second octave included which is usually left out to help preserve space in the bottom row.I am glad to have this note,but some of the bottom row keys are rather narrow in the second octave and,thus,require very precise control.A tradeoff.To further complicate matters,my HG is far more resonant and clear tuned up a half step to D#/G#.Go figure.But since I perform solo,it is no big deal to me.It just sounds,sings better up a half step higher.Finally,I have metal tangents with medium clear plastic sleeves.They are a bit of a pain to tune,but the tone is fantastic...Melvin Dorries is great with questions too!...good luck...Robert
>
> --- On Wed, 10/28/09, victoryfarm <ms-victoryfarm@...> wrote:
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> From: victoryfarm <ms-victoryfarm@...>
> Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Re: New England region of the U.S.
> To: HurdyGurdyForum@...
> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 10:34 PM
>
>
> Robert -
>
> I forgot to ask- what model did you get? What do you particularly like/dislike about it?
>
> I'd actually like to hear that about any of the HG Crafters or Olympic Instruments - if anyone else would like to share about their American-made instruments. 
>
> Mary
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., robert loechler <robertloechler@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mary,
> >    I am a HG player of the past 6 months in southern NH.I have a HG by Melvin Dorries of Hurdygurdycrafters.com.
>
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Hello all! I've joined recently and been "lurking" a bit - reading the archives, and enjoying the current threads. I don't play the hurdy gurdy - yet! - but I...
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Oct 25, 2009
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Hi Mary, I suggest you join the USA mail list and put your question there There are several East Coast players You can join via http://www.hurdygurdy.com That...
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Thank you, Graham- I have joined that list already. It is a very "quiet" list, though, compared to this one, and I've found through experience with other...
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Dear Mary,    I am a HG player of the past 6 months in southern NH.I have a HG by Melvin Dorries of Hurdygurdycrafters.com.Whereas tis HG has required quite...
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Dear Robert: Thank you so much for the encouragement - and all the good info. :-) Yes, the internet is a wonderful resource. I even know people who give harp...
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Robert - I forgot to ask- what model did you get? What do you particularly like/dislike about it? I'd actually like to hear that about any of the HG Crafters...
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Dear Mary,    My hurdygurdycrafters HG is a modified Monarch kit model.the standard $999 do-it-yourself kit with a slightly larger body and a chanter bridge...
robert loechler
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Robert and Mary, My HurdyGurdyCrafters.com Monarch kit - came with strings for unison G/C tuning only because I requested G/C tuning. The Monarch instrument...
Jon
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Oct 29, 2009
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Dear Jon,    You mention unison chanter tuning as being "harsh".I have not found that to be the case at all ONCE I got each of the two unison chanters...
robert loechler
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Oct 30, 2009
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Greetings,   Few things I like better than talkin' HG! What strings you ask?   There is so much subjectivity to string selection.... "Wow that sounds good...
Melvin Dorries
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Oct 31, 2009
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I may be in the unique position of owning an instrument by Neil Brook, the Wren, and an instrument built from a kit by Mel Dorries, HurdyGurdyCrafters.com. See...
Jon
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Hi Robert: I don't know what your scale length is, but have you tried violin strings for your chanters? A wound string (like the violin string) would give...
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Dear George,    Thanks for the tip.In the meantime,I have checked with Jon Steel who has the same HG model and is using a Corelli Crystal violin string for...
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