ment to send a link:

http://www.allianzmusicalinsurance.co.uk/

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "john wade" <john79uk@...>
wrote:
>
> Can anyone reccomend a decent insurance policy for HG's? I've been
on a
> couple of websites for a quote, but so far it seems a Gurdy is not
> listed or 'not recognised'. Any suggestions gratefully rec'd.
> John W
>

We have all our musical instruments (including gurdy, bagpipes,
flugelhorn, etc.) insured with CIS. We have an "all risks" policy which
covers the instruments not only when in the house but also if we are
gigging (provided it is not our major income) and when in transit too. I
think the Musicians'Union do an insurance scheme too which might be
worth investigating.

Cheers
Ruthie

john wade wrote:
> Can anyone reccomend a decent insurance policy for HG's? I've been on a
> couple of websites for a quote, but so far it seems a Gurdy is not
> listed or 'not recognised'. Any suggestions gratefully rec'd.
> John W
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Hello

I would like some advice please, I wish to learn the Hurdy Gurdy and as
yet do not have an instrument. What should I be looking for. Something
second hand or a new student model?

Is there anyone in the Warrington, Cheshire area who gives HG lessons.

As a Bass trombone player I have an affinity for unusual instruments ;-)

Thanks

Kevan

Can anyone reccomend a decent insurance policy for HG's? I've been on a
couple of websites for a quote, but so far it seems a Gurdy is not
listed or 'not recognised'. Any suggestions gratefully rec'd.
John W

Well I am a newbie player from Liverpool (so not much help) and have only,
ever, seen one player locally and that was in the art gallery in the town
centre (playing, not a painting).
Maybe we are a bit thin on the ground here in the NW.
I'm sure there will be anther "get together" you can come to soon (you
missed Lancaster I take it?). I wasn't able to go but remember, you will
have the gurdy for a long time so it's worth the wait to get it looked at
properly and set up correctly. Take your time. Someone will offer you the
help you need and, if not that close by, it'll be worth a journey to visit
them.
Colin Hill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Campbell" <roycampbell@...>
To: <HurdyGurdyForum@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:24 PM
Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Re: Advice for a beginer


Hi Kevan,

I have just bought a Gurdy from e-bay and as I dont know anything
about them I have now got a struggle ahead of me to get the
instrument up and running.    It needs repaired as well as set up.

There is no-one living close by to me who can give me instant advise
and help me get going.    Thankfully the forum is here.

I still think my purchase is going to be worth it in the long run,
but my advice for what its worth is to make sure you see the
instrument being played and try to get someone who knows how to play
to advise you as a third party.

Its even worse I think than the Trombone :-) In Glasgow I am sure I
could probably find about forty players if I went looking, but there
are only another two Gurdy players that I know about and I have still
to meet them.

A well set up playable instrument is always the best thing learn on.


--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "bwana_mrefu"
<bwana_mrefu@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I would like some advice please, I wish to learn the Hurdy Gurdy
and as
> yet do not have an instrument. What should I be looking for.
Something
> second hand or a new student model?
>
> Is there anyone in the Warrington, Cheshire area who gives HG
lessons.
>
> As a Bass trombone player I have an affinity for unusual
instruments ;-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Kevan
>

Hi Kevan,

I have just bought a Gurdy from e-bay and as I dont know anything
about them I have now got a struggle ahead of me to get the
instrument up and running.    It needs repaired as well as set up.

There is no-one living close by to me who can give me instant advise
and help me get going.    Thankfully the forum is here.

I still think my purchase is going to be worth it in the long run,
but my advice for what its worth is to make sure you see the
instrument being played and try to get someone who knows how to play
to advise you as a third party.

Its even worse I think than the Trombone :-) In Glasgow I am sure I
could probably find about forty players if I went looking, but there
are only another two Gurdy players that I know about and I have still
to meet them.

A well set up playable instrument is always the best thing learn on.


--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "bwana_mrefu"
<bwana_mrefu@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I would like some advice please, I wish to learn the Hurdy Gurdy
and as
> yet do not have an instrument. What should I be looking for.
Something
> second hand or a new student model?
>
> Is there anyone in the Warrington, Cheshire area who gives HG
lessons.
>
> As a Bass trombone player I have an affinity for unusual
instruments ;-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Kevan
>

Hello

I would like some advice please, I wish to learn the Hurdy Gurdy and as
yet do not have an instrument. What should I be looking for. Something
second hand or a new student model?

Is there anyone in the Warrington, Cheshire area who gives HG lessons.

As a Bass trombone player I have an affinity for unusual instruments ;-)

Thanks

Kevan

Hi,

Those of us going to Steve's workshop at the Blowout can find
the dots for a couple of tunes on the GurdyFest download page:

http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/gurdyfest/

under  "Extra Tunes for Workshops at the Blowout"

Thanks to Richard Robinson for continued use of his web space.

regards,

Paul

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
<roycampbell@...> wrote:
> WHEN I FIRST STARTED PLAYING  IREMEMBER READING THAT THE STRING
(BEFORE THE COTTON IS ON)SHOULD HOLD A CIGARETE PAPER UNDER IT. THIS
IS QUITE A GOOD GUIDE. ALSO THE PAPERS ARE THIN AND ARE GOOD FOR
LIFTING THE STRING ON THE BRIDGE.



> Thanks for that Robin, It helped me to see I was on the right
track
> with fixing my Gurdy, especially checking the height of the bridge.
>
> I made new temporary nuts and as the bridge was way out I made a
new
> slot for the second chanter and stuffed lots of cotton wool into
the
> existing slot for the first.
>
> I get a fairly good tone from the first eight keys then it goes
wonky.
>
> As I am a complete beginner I dont mind persisting with it the way
it
> is and working on it as I learn.    However, it really needs a
> professional to do a proper repair in the future and set it up to
its
> best advantage.
>
> Its incredible how much difference the correct application of
cotton
> and resin makes as is the height of the string off the bridge onto
> the wheel.
>
> I can see why Steve wants the exact mathematical relationship
before
> going ahead and making any major changes.
>
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@>
> > wrote:
> > > SORRY WRONG ADDRESS
> > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xaime/vielle/evieldescr.html
> >
> > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > > >HI STEVE HI ROY
> > > IS THIS SITE ANY USE TO YOU
> > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xaime/vielle/evoeldescr.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I have been looking for the same type of article or
information
> > > but
> > > > cant find it either.   Is it possible that the article was
from
> > > the
> > > > Britannica or other Encyclopoedia?  These often have full on
> > > > explanations of their topics including calculations and
theory
> > etc.
> > > >
> > > > I intend going to one of the bigger deposit libraries some
time
> > > soon
> > > > to go through back editions and see what there is.    I'll
let
> > you
> > > > know if I find anything.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Steve Evans"
> > > > <brunfelsia@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > I'm getting to the tricky bits in my restoration of a
Bernard
> > > Ellis
> > > > > guitar shaped gurdy and I wonder if any members have a
link
> to
> > > an
> > > > > article or possibly a research paper on wheel and string
> > > geometry
> > > > and
> > > > > scale length and string gauge. I remember it from a couple
of
> > > years
> > > > > ago but have forgotten where I found it. It was quite a
> > > technical
> > > > > article and was illustrated; seem to remember lots of
> formulae
> > > and
> > > > > tables etc. Any info greatly appreciated.
> > > > > I have posted a couple of average films from the fest on U
> > Tube.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMrxjaL
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AXqc8qC9yc
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Evans
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Thanks for that Robin, It helped me to see I was on the right track
with fixing my Gurdy, especially checking the height of the bridge.

I made new temporary nuts and as the bridge was way out I made a new
slot for the second chanter and stuffed lots of cotton wool into the
existing slot for the first.

I get a fairly good tone from the first eight keys then it goes wonky.

As I am a complete beginner I dont mind persisting with it the way it
is and working on it as I learn.    However, it really needs a
professional to do a proper repair in the future and set it up to its
best advantage.

Its incredible how much difference the correct application of cotton
and resin makes as is the height of the string off the bridge onto
the wheel.

I can see why Steve wants the exact mathematical relationship before
going ahead and making any major changes.


--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@>
> wrote:
> > SORRY WRONG ADDRESS
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xaime/vielle/evieldescr.html
>
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > >HI STEVE HI ROY
> > IS THIS SITE ANY USE TO YOU
> > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xaime/vielle/evoeldescr.html
> > >
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > I have been looking for the same type of article or information
> > but
> > > cant find it either.   Is it possible that the article was from
> > the
> > > Britannica or other Encyclopoedia?  These often have full on
> > > explanations of their topics including calculations and theory
> etc.
> > >
> > > I intend going to one of the bigger deposit libraries some time
> > soon
> > > to go through back editions and see what there is.    I'll let
> you
> > > know if I find anything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Steve Evans"
> > > <brunfelsia@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > I'm getting to the tricky bits in my restoration of a Bernard
> > Ellis
> > > > guitar shaped gurdy and I wonder if any members have a link
to
> > an
> > > > article or possibly a research paper on wheel and string
> > geometry
> > > and
> > > > scale length and string gauge. I remember it from a couple of
> > years
> > > > ago but have forgotten where I found it. It was quite a
> > technical
> > > > article and was illustrated; seem to remember lots of
formulae
> > and
> > > > tables etc. Any info greatly appreciated.
> > > > I have posted a couple of average films from the fest on U
> Tube.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMrxjaL
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AXqc8qC9yc
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Steve Evans
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi Robin,

thanks very much for the link: I'd forgotten about this website and didn't
realise it had this section in it; the translation is pretty howling but I
think the English pages are new anyway.
Although it's very good, unfortunately it's not the right one: the article
I'm after is about the mechanics of tone production at the wheel/string
interface and has some technical geometric diagrams of optimal
bridge/wheel/nut angles and heights. I think it has tables relating
fundamental string length to keybox slot position also.

I intend also to experiment with the Maplin heatshrink tube over my low D
chanterelle tangents[£2.99 a metre in 4 widths up to 13 mm with shrinkage of
50%], as they are a little "tired" i.e. too much pressure needed for a clean
pick-up from grooving plus I'd like a slightly richer, more muted tone, such
as you get with leather-covered tangents.
Anyone have any thoughts on this or tried it?

Steve

_________________________________________________________________
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John and other Midlands players,

I have created a poll regarding your request. Apologies to everybody else who is
not
concerned with this, just skip and ignore the topic.

Thanks, Cecilia

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "john276373" <johnmcivor@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've got a rather selfish request for the next meeting of the Forum. Is
> there any chance that we could move the meeting from the 24th June to
> the next weekend please? I've looked at my diary and realised that I
> have two gigs with my band the week before the meeting (including one
> the night before that might not finish until late in the evening -
> Can't really manage these at my age anymore!), so will be pretty
> shattered by the 24th - I appreciate that other attendees may already
> have this in their diaries by now; but how would people feel about
> moving it to the following week if at all possible??
>
> You can reply to me offline if necessary.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John Mc
>

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
HurdyGurdyForum group:

Which date is the most suitable for the next Midlands HG Meeting?  You have
multiple choice, tick as many as you can! The date that gets the most votes will
be set. I include dates for July, I think it is now realistic to have only one
more meeting during the summer, unless your votes suggest it differently. I will
run this poll until the 6th of June, to enable time for organising the meeting.

   o 17th June (Sunday)
   o 24th June (Sunday)
   o 1st July (Sunday)
   o 8th July (Sunday)
   o 15th July (Sunday)
   o 16th June (Saturday)
   o 23rd June (Saturday)
   o 30th June (Saturday)
   o 7th July (Saturday)
   o 14th July (Saturday)


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/HurdyGurdyForum/surveys?id=12582880

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

Hi All,

I've got a rather selfish request for the next meeting of the Forum. Is
there any chance that we could move the meeting from the 24th June to
the next weekend please? I've looked at my diary and realised that I
have two gigs with my band the week before the meeting (including one
the night before that might not finish until late in the evening -
Can't really manage these at my age anymore!), so will be pretty
shattered by the 24th - I appreciate that other attendees may already
have this in their diaries by now; but how would people feel about
moving it to the following week if at all possible??

You can reply to me offline if necessary.

Thanks.

John Mc

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@...>
wrote:
> SORRY WRONG ADDRESS
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xaime/vielle/evieldescr.html

> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> <roycampbell@> wrote:
> >HI STEVE HI ROY
> IS THIS SITE ANY USE TO YOU
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xaime/vielle/evoeldescr.html
> >
>
> Hi Steve,
> >
> > I have been looking for the same type of article or information
> but
> > cant find it either.   Is it possible that the article was from
> the
> > Britannica or other Encyclopoedia?  These often have full on
> > explanations of their topics including calculations and theory
etc.
> >
> > I intend going to one of the bigger deposit libraries some time
> soon
> > to go through back editions and see what there is.    I'll let
you
> > know if I find anything.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Steve Evans"
> > <brunfelsia@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > > I'm getting to the tricky bits in my restoration of a Bernard
> Ellis
> > > guitar shaped gurdy and I wonder if any members have a link to
> an
> > > article or possibly a research paper on wheel and string
> geometry
> > and
> > > scale length and string gauge. I remember it from a couple of
> years
> > > ago but have forgotten where I found it. It was quite a
> technical
> > > article and was illustrated; seem to remember lots of formulae
> and
> > > tables etc. Any info greatly appreciated.
> > > I have posted a couple of average films from the fest on U
Tube.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMrxjaL
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AXqc8qC9yc
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Evans
> > >
> >
>

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
<roycampbell@...> wrote:
>HI STEVE HI ROY
IS THIS SITE ANY USE TO YOU
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xaime/vielle/evoeldescr.html
>

Hi Steve,
>
> I have been looking for the same type of article or information
but
> cant find it either.   Is it possible that the article was from
the
> Britannica or other Encyclopoedia?  These often have full on
> explanations of their topics including calculations and theory etc.
>
> I intend going to one of the bigger deposit libraries some time
soon
> to go through back editions and see what there is.    I'll let you
> know if I find anything.
>
>
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Steve Evans"
> <brunfelsia@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I'm getting to the tricky bits in my restoration of a Bernard
Ellis
> > guitar shaped gurdy and I wonder if any members have a link to
an
> > article or possibly a research paper on wheel and string
geometry
> and
> > scale length and string gauge. I remember it from a couple of
years
> > ago but have forgotten where I found it. It was quite a
technical
> > article and was illustrated; seem to remember lots of formulae
and
> > tables etc. Any info greatly appreciated.
> > I have posted a couple of average films from the fest on U Tube.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMrxjaL
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AXqc8qC9yc
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve Evans
> >
>

Hi Steve,

I have been looking for the same type of article or information but
cant find it either.   Is it possible that the article was from the
Britannica or other Encyclopoedia?  These often have full on
explanations of their topics including calculations and theory etc.

I intend going to one of the bigger deposit libraries some time soon
to go through back editions and see what there is.    I'll let you
know if I find anything.



--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Steve Evans"
<brunfelsia@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I'm getting to the tricky bits in my restoration of a Bernard Ellis
> guitar shaped gurdy and I wonder if any members have a link to an
> article or possibly a research paper on wheel and string geometry
and
> scale length and string gauge. I remember it from a couple of years
> ago but have forgotten where I found it. It was quite a technical
> article and was illustrated; seem to remember lots of formulae and
> tables etc. Any info greatly appreciated.
> I have posted a couple of average films from the fest on U Tube.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMrxjaL
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AXqc8qC9yc
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Evans
>

MM

I've been playing the Hurdy Gurdy now for a year and three months. But
  not met many other Gurdy players in the flesh (so to speak) which
means I can't get much input for my playing. So... I've put a video of
me on Youtube at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g2d-TQWBCk

If anyone has the time: I would welcome any teacher to pupil type
comments. Thank you in advance.

BB Dave Manley

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
<roycampbell@...> wrote:
>YES, IF THE TANGENTS DON'T HIT AT THE SAME TIME YOU GET A BUZZ ON
THE STRING, AND  IT ALSO MAKES IT HARD TO FINE TUNE.


> Thanks Robin,  I will go ahead and reset the keybox and then work
on
> the bridge.     I take it that the strings should normally be
> parallel from the nut to the bridge then, so the tangents hit at
the
> same time?
>
>
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > > HI ROY ROBIN HERE
> > IF I WHERE YOU I WOULD MODIFY THE BRIDGE. I HAVE HAD PLENTY OF
> > EXPERIENCE OF TANGENTS NOT HITTING THE STRINGS AT THE SAME TIME
AND
> > BELEIVE ME IT IS NOT A NICE SOUND.
> >
> >
> > > OK got my glue, bought new strings and decided today would be
> time
> > to
> > > start a repair.     However, just noticed some discrepency in
> > > measurements.
> > >
> > > The strings come out of the keybox 2cms apart.   There is also
> > 2cms
> > > difference between each of the tangents for the two
strings.
> > > However, the notches on the bridge are several mm's larger so
> that
> > > the tangents would not stop the strings evenly when you get to
> the
> > > top keys closer to the wheel.
> > >
> > > Is this normal or should I modify the bridge?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin"
<lorna.robin@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > > > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > > > >  YES THEY ARE VERY TIGHT, THIS ALSO HELPS TO KEEP THEV
> STRINGS
> > > THE
> > > > RIGHT DISTANCE APART.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm glad you pointed that out as I didn't notice when I
> looked
> > at
> > > > > them before.    I'll need to build this in when I'm
repairing
> > the
> > > > > keybox.    The small platform is actually at a slope which
> > seems
> > > > odd
> > > > > as the nut would be liable to move down the slope towards
the
> > > > bridge
> > > > > as the string vibrates.   Are the nuts usually very tight
> > against
> > > > > the edges?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin"
> > <lorna.robin@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > > > > > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > > > > > > HI ROY
> > > > > > FROM LOOKING AT YOUR PHOTO,S I THINK THAT YOUR GURDY
SHOULD
> > > HAVE
> > > > > TWO
> > > > > > NUTS AT THE TOP. THESE ARE USUALLY AJUSTABLE AND CAN BE
> > MOVED
> > > UP
> > > > > AND
> > > > > > DOWN THE SMALL PLATFORM. THERE IS USUALLY A STRIP OF
WOOD
> > THAT
> > > > > > SEPERATES THE TWO NUTS. IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR STRIP OF WOOD
> HAS
> > > > BEEN
> > > > > > REMOVED FROM YOURS SO THAT A SCREW COULD BE PUT THROUGH.
IF
> > YOU
> > > > > HAVE
> > > > > > A LOOK ON THE SECOND WEB SITE THAT I FORWARDED YOU WILL
SEE
> > > THIS
> > > > > SET
> > > > > > UP ON THE END OF THE KEYBOX
> > > > > > GOOD LUCK WITH THE REPARE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dont worry I wont use superglue LoL.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have some fiddle glue somewhere if I can find it
else I
> > > will
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > some more.    I will definately do some research first
as
> > I
> > > > cant
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > sure that it was well positioned before.   When I got
it
> > > there
> > > > > was
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > nut at the top end of the strings and they were just
> > coming
> > > > off
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > peg box.    I need to get a better idea of what I
> actually
> > > > have
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > before I do anything.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., Jon Redpath
> > > > > > > <penicuik05@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Roy. sorry to here about your problem. If you are
> > going
> > > > to
> > > > > > glue
> > > > > > > the box back on you MUST NOT use anything like super
> > glue ,
> > > > this
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > only cause major problems later. Do you know any
violin
> > > > > restorers
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > makers, they would be able to get you the glue (hot
water
> > > > > > soluable)
> > > > > > > and the clamps that are essential. If you are going to
> fix
> > it
> > > > > mask
> > > > > > > off the area outside the box on the sound board to
keep
> > the
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Thanks Robin,  I will go ahead and reset the keybox and then work on
the bridge.     I take it that the strings should normally be
parallel from the nut to the bridge then, so the tangents hit at the
same time?



--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > HI ROY ROBIN HERE
> IF I WHERE YOU I WOULD MODIFY THE BRIDGE. I HAVE HAD PLENTY OF
> EXPERIENCE OF TANGENTS NOT HITTING THE STRINGS AT THE SAME TIME AND
> BELEIVE ME IT IS NOT A NICE SOUND.
>
>
> > OK got my glue, bought new strings and decided today would be
time
> to
> > start a repair.     However, just noticed some discrepency in
> > measurements.
> >
> > The strings come out of the keybox 2cms apart.   There is also
> 2cms
> > difference between each of the tangents for the two strings.
> > However, the notches on the bridge are several mm's larger so
that
> > the tangents would not stop the strings evenly when you get to
the
> > top keys closer to the wheel.
> >
> > Is this normal or should I modify the bridge?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > > >  YES THEY ARE VERY TIGHT, THIS ALSO HELPS TO KEEP THEV
STRINGS
> > THE
> > > RIGHT DISTANCE APART.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm glad you pointed that out as I didn't notice when I
looked
> at
> > > > them before.    I'll need to build this in when I'm repairing
> the
> > > > keybox.    The small platform is actually at a slope which
> seems
> > > odd
> > > > as the nut would be liable to move down the slope towards the
> > > bridge
> > > > as the string vibrates.   Are the nuts usually very tight
> against
> > > > the edges?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin"
> <lorna.robin@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > > > > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > > > > > HI ROY
> > > > > FROM LOOKING AT YOUR PHOTO,S I THINK THAT YOUR GURDY SHOULD
> > HAVE
> > > > TWO
> > > > > NUTS AT THE TOP. THESE ARE USUALLY AJUSTABLE AND CAN BE
> MOVED
> > UP
> > > > AND
> > > > > DOWN THE SMALL PLATFORM. THERE IS USUALLY A STRIP OF WOOD
> THAT
> > > > > SEPERATES THE TWO NUTS. IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR STRIP OF WOOD
HAS
> > > BEEN
> > > > > REMOVED FROM YOURS SO THAT A SCREW COULD BE PUT THROUGH. IF
> YOU
> > > > HAVE
> > > > > A LOOK ON THE SECOND WEB SITE THAT I FORWARDED YOU WILL SEE
> > THIS
> > > > SET
> > > > > UP ON THE END OF THE KEYBOX
> > > > > GOOD LUCK WITH THE REPARE.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dont worry I wont use superglue LoL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have some fiddle glue somewhere if I can find it else I
> > will
> > > > get
> > > > > > some more.    I will definately do some research first as
> I
> > > cant
> > > > > be
> > > > > > sure that it was well positioned before.   When I got it
> > there
> > > > was
> > > > > no
> > > > > > nut at the top end of the strings and they were just
> coming
> > > off
> > > > > the
> > > > > > peg box.    I need to get a better idea of what I
actually
> > > have
> > > > > here
> > > > > > before I do anything.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., Jon Redpath
> > > > > > <penicuik05@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Roy. sorry to here about your problem. If you are
> going
> > > to
> > > > > glue
> > > > > > the box back on you MUST NOT use anything like super
> glue ,
> > > this
> > > > > will
> > > > > > only cause major problems later. Do you know any violin
> > > > restorers
> > > > > or
> > > > > > makers, they would be able to get you the glue (hot water
> > > > > soluable)
> > > > > > and the clamps that are essential. If you are going to
fix
> it
> > > > mask
> > > > > > off the area outside the box on the sound board to keep
> the
> > > glue
> > > > > off.
> > > > > > The positioning is critical for many reasons. It would be
> > > better
> > > > > to
> > > > > > contact a professional maker and ask their advice. JON
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--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
<roycampbell@...> wrote:
> HI ROY ROBIN HERE
IF I WHERE YOU I WOULD MODIFY THE BRIDGE. I HAVE HAD PLENTY OF
EXPERIENCE OF TANGENTS NOT HITTING THE STRINGS AT THE SAME TIME AND
BELEIVE ME IT IS NOT A NICE SOUND.


> OK got my glue, bought new strings and decided today would be time
to
> start a repair.     However, just noticed some discrepency in
> measurements.
>
> The strings come out of the keybox 2cms apart.   There is also
2cms
> difference between each of the tangents for the two strings.
> However, the notches on the bridge are several mm's larger so that
> the tangents would not stop the strings evenly when you get to the
> top keys closer to the wheel.
>
> Is this normal or should I modify the bridge?
>
>
>
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > >  YES THEY ARE VERY TIGHT, THIS ALSO HELPS TO KEEP THEV STRINGS
> THE
> > RIGHT DISTANCE APART.
> >
> >
> > > I'm glad you pointed that out as I didn't notice when I looked
at
> > > them before.    I'll need to build this in when I'm repairing
the
> > > keybox.    The small platform is actually at a slope which
seems
> > odd
> > > as the nut would be liable to move down the slope towards the
> > bridge
> > > as the string vibrates.   Are the nuts usually very tight
against
> > > the edges?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin"
<lorna.robin@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > > > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > > > > HI ROY
> > > > FROM LOOKING AT YOUR PHOTO,S I THINK THAT YOUR GURDY SHOULD
> HAVE
> > > TWO
> > > > NUTS AT THE TOP. THESE ARE USUALLY AJUSTABLE AND CAN BE
MOVED
> UP
> > > AND
> > > > DOWN THE SMALL PLATFORM. THERE IS USUALLY A STRIP OF WOOD
THAT
> > > > SEPERATES THE TWO NUTS. IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR STRIP OF WOOD HAS
> > BEEN
> > > > REMOVED FROM YOURS SO THAT A SCREW COULD BE PUT THROUGH. IF
YOU
> > > HAVE
> > > > A LOOK ON THE SECOND WEB SITE THAT I FORWARDED YOU WILL SEE
> THIS
> > > SET
> > > > UP ON THE END OF THE KEYBOX
> > > > GOOD LUCK WITH THE REPARE.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dont worry I wont use superglue LoL.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some fiddle glue somewhere if I can find it else I
> will
> > > get
> > > > > some more.    I will definately do some research first as
I
> > cant
> > > > be
> > > > > sure that it was well positioned before.   When I got it
> there
> > > was
> > > > no
> > > > > nut at the top end of the strings and they were just
coming
> > off
> > > > the
> > > > > peg box.    I need to get a better idea of what I actually
> > have
> > > > here
> > > > > before I do anything.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., Jon Redpath
> > > > > <penicuik05@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Roy. sorry to here about your problem. If you are
going
> > to
> > > > glue
> > > > > the box back on you MUST NOT use anything like super
glue ,
> > this
> > > > will
> > > > > only cause major problems later. Do you know any violin
> > > restorers
> > > > or
> > > > > makers, they would be able to get you the glue (hot water
> > > > soluable)
> > > > > and the clamps that are essential. If you are going to fix
it
> > > mask
> > > > > off the area outside the box on the sound board to keep
the
> > glue
> > > > off.
> > > > > The positioning is critical for many reasons. It would be
> > better
> > > > to
> > > > > contact a professional maker and ask their advice. JON
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OK got my glue, bought new strings and decided today would be time to
start a repair.     However, just noticed some discrepency in
measurements.

The strings come out of the keybox 2cms apart.   There is also 2cms
difference between each of the tangents for the two strings.
However, the notches on the bridge are several mm's larger so that
the tangents would not stop the strings evenly when you get to the
top keys closer to the wheel.

Is this normal or should I modify the bridge?




--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> <roycampbell@> wrote:
> >  YES THEY ARE VERY TIGHT, THIS ALSO HELPS TO KEEP THEV STRINGS
THE
> RIGHT DISTANCE APART.
>
>
> > I'm glad you pointed that out as I didn't notice when I looked at
> > them before.    I'll need to build this in when I'm repairing the
> > keybox.    The small platform is actually at a slope which seems
> odd
> > as the nut would be liable to move down the slope towards the
> bridge
> > as the string vibrates.   Are the nuts usually very tight against
> > the edges?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Robin" <lorna.robin@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Roy Campbell"
> > > <roycampbell@> wrote:
> > > > HI ROY
> > > FROM LOOKING AT YOUR PHOTO,S I THINK THAT YOUR GURDY SHOULD
HAVE
> > TWO
> > > NUTS AT THE TOP. THESE ARE USUALLY AJUSTABLE AND CAN BE MOVED
UP
> > AND
> > > DOWN THE SMALL PLATFORM. THERE IS USUALLY A STRIP OF WOOD THAT
> > > SEPERATES THE TWO NUTS. IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR STRIP OF WOOD HAS
> BEEN
> > > REMOVED FROM YOURS SO THAT A SCREW COULD BE PUT THROUGH. IF YOU
> > HAVE
> > > A LOOK ON THE SECOND WEB SITE THAT I FORWARDED YOU WILL SEE
THIS
> > SET
> > > UP ON THE END OF THE KEYBOX
> > > GOOD LUCK WITH THE REPARE.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dont worry I wont use superglue LoL.
> > > >
> > > > I have some fiddle glue somewhere if I can find it else I
will
> > get
> > > > some more.    I will definately do some research first as I
> cant
> > > be
> > > > sure that it was well positioned before.   When I got it
there
> > was
> > > no
> > > > nut at the top end of the strings and they were just coming
> off
> > > the
> > > > peg box.    I need to get a better idea of what I actually
> have
> > > here
> > > > before I do anything.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., Jon Redpath
> > > > <penicuik05@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Roy. sorry to here about your problem. If you are going
> to
> > > glue
> > > > the box back on you MUST NOT use anything like super glue ,
> this
> > > will
> > > > only cause major problems later. Do you know any violin
> > restorers
> > > or
> > > > makers, they would be able to get you the glue (hot water
> > > soluable)
> > > > and the clamps that are essential. If you are going to fix it
> > mask
> > > > off the area outside the box on the sound board to keep the
> glue
> > > off.
> > > > The positioning is critical for many reasons. It would be
> better
> > > to
> > > > contact a professional maker and ask their advice. JON
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Hope you don't mind me doing this....

My band, Nuada, are about to release a new CD. We're very excited about
it as it's been a long time in the making, but the time is finally
almost here. We hope to receive the finished CDs just before the
Blowout, so I'll bring some along. Needless to say there's lots of gurdy
stuff on it (plus 3 different sorts of pipes, gemshorn, garklein, lute,
bouzouki, didgeridoo, percussion, guitar, etc.) You can hear excerpts of
all 15 tracks on our website, www.nuada.net and there is also lots of
information about the tracks, with photos, anecdotes and lyrics. Thre
are also a couple of complete tracks on our MySpace page
www.myspace.com/nuadauk. Enjoy :-)

OK, advert break over...I'll get my coat.

Ruthie

PS. CDs cost £10 if purchased at gigs etc. or £12 inc. P&P. We may also
sell downloads through CD Baby and/or Woven Wheat Whispers

I think (hope) possibly many of us will have already received this - maybe
several times -or do I just have a lot of friends?
None of the ones I have had have had a picture either so I presume it's been
removed."in transit" or security settings won't allow it through.
I hope it's genuine - it's just the sort of sick thing someone may use to
pass on a virus (sad world) and most of us will open it, of course.

Colin Hill
----- Original Message -----
From: "MARK VEEVERS" <markveevers@btinternet.com>
To: <HurdyGurdyForum@yahoogroups.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [HurdyGurdyForum] Please help.

> I notice that it hasn't allowed the showing of the photograph
anyway.!!!!!!!!
>
> MARK VEEVERS <markveevers@btinternet.com> wrote: Hello everyone
on the hurdygurdy forum.
> My brother sent this to me asking me to pass it onto everyone I know. I
thought the forum might prove to be a big arena to help in the expansion of
this chain. Please pass on to everyone you know. It might just help to find
this little girl.
> Regards Mark.
> I have done this as a reply to one of the messages because when I tried
to set up a 'new topic' to be placed on the forum, it wouldn't accept the
photgraph.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
>
> Please read this message and pass it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> As you are aware my niece is still missing and I am asking everyone I
know to send this as a chain letter i.e. you send it to everyone you know
and ask them to do the same, as the story is only being covered in
Britain, Eire and Portugal. We don't believe that she is in Portugal
anymore and need to get her picture and the story across Europe as quickly
as possible. Suggestions are welcome.
>
> Phil McCann
>
>
> Steve Evans <brunfelsia@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: Dear All,
> correct UTube link for first film is
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMrxjaL_UQ
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I think (hope) possibly many of us will have already received this - maybe
several times -or do I just have a lot of friends?
None of the ones I have had have had a picture either so I presume it's been
removed."in transit" or security settings won't allow it through.
I hope it's genuine - it's just the sort of sick thing someone may use to
pass on a virus (sad world) and most of us will open it, of course.

Colin Hill
----- Original Message -----
From: "MARK VEEVERS" <markveevers@...>
To: <HurdyGurdyForum@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [HurdyGurdyForum] Please help.


> I notice that it hasn't allowed the showing of the photograph
anyway.!!!!!!!!
>
> MARK VEEVERS <markveevers@...> wrote:            Hello everyone
on the hurdygurdy forum.
>   My brother sent this to me asking me to pass it onto everyone I know. I
thought the forum might prove to be a big arena to help in the expansion of
this chain. Please pass on to everyone you know. It might just help to find
this little girl.
>   Regards Mark.
>   I have done this as a reply to one of the messages because when I tried
to set up a 'new topic' to be placed on the forum, it wouldn't accept the
photgraph.
>
>   Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
>
>   Please read this message and pass it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>   As you are aware my niece is still missing and I am  asking everyone I
know to send this as a chain letter i.e. you send it  to everyone you  know
and ask them to do the same, as the story is  only being covered in
Britain, Eire and Portugal. We don't believe that  she is in Portugal
anymore and need to get her picture and the story  across Europe as  quickly
as possible. Suggestions are welcome.
>
>     Phil McCann
>
>
> Steve Evans <brunfelsia@...> wrote:       Dear All,
> correct UTube link for first film is
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMrxjaL_UQ
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>