----- Original Message -----

From: Melvin Dorries

To: HurdyGurdyForum@...

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:06 AM

Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Wolf Note/keychest rattle

 

Dear Friends,   Just completed a 355mm, two octave D/G six string (plus 8 sympathetic strings) instrumet that is made of bubinga and spruce. It is highly resonant and has a wonderful sound and good balance. As I was going through the scale using only the d" string  I got up to the second octave e and it just came uncontrollably alive. The key chest started vibrating, the note got extra loud and unclear and the sound was just about unbearable. The bad noises went away when the wheel was turned at half speed and the fundamental note returned to its normal sound (which is louder that the other notes). The string is a .070 badminton string Yonex bg-65 which normally works rather well in simmilar applications.   I would like to humbly ask what you folks do to bring such a beast into subjection? In all fairness this is what I have done so far to partially correct the problem. This way you won't tell me something that I have tried and I like some boaster have to say "I tried that already".   1. Replace the d" with a .66mm Yonex bg66  2. Damp the tangents with extra silicone tubing below the contact point 3. Change to a different tangent sleeve material that is more damped and soft (the metal tangent allow this to be done easily) 4. Check all tangents to assure that they are dead flat on the bottom 5. Recheck key fit to assure that the fit is not excessively loose. 6. Damp the bottom of the keychest with 1" accoustic foam to minimize keychest vibrations. 7. Go extra light on the string/wheel pressure to minimize that string's sound volume.  8. Cotton with long strand English cotton instead of the former foxfibre that I had been using on this string. 9. Creatively cotton the string at various contact points on the wheel so that the bridge to contact point is changed.    OK guys please help this Newbee get to the next level. Teach me how to "tame the wolf".   Thanks Mel

Hi Phil

Don't like to be difficult, but 5th Dec is a Saturday...and 6th is a
Sunday...

Cheers
Ruthie

JULIE BARKER wrote:
>
>
> January.
> Cliff Stapleton will be doing a gurdy workshop in Kent on the third
> weekend in January.
> www.walshaw.plus.com/kerry/EurobashKent10/
> <http://www.walshaw.plus.com/kerry/EurobashKent10/> for full details.
> It isn't mentioned on the website but prior to the workshop I will be
> doing a short gurdy set-up surgery to try and ensure all gurdies are
> working well enough for people to get the best out of the workshop.
> Sunday 5th Dec
> French music session at The Unicorn, Bekesbourne, near Canterbury.
> Monday 6th Dec
> French dance workshop and bal with Kerry Fletcher, Drohne and guest
> musicians at Lower Hardres Village Hall near Canterbury.
>
> Philip G Martin aka Drohne
> www.drohne.co.uk
>
>
>
>

Here is a plug for one of Steve's gigs :) :


A Concert of Traditional and
Medieval Music and Stories



with
Adam Bushnell (seasonal spooky tales),
Steve Tyler (hurdy gurdy, citole, gothic harp),
Helen Barber (soprano, hurdy gurdy),
Nick Wiseman-Ellis (melodion), Jennie Page (oboe),
Paul Martin (bagpipes, fiddle) and others

in Brancepeth Castle, Ballroom
7.30pm on Saturday 5th. December.

Tickets �10 / �8 concessions. Advanced booking on 01837 849030,
or 0191 3783836, sj.tyler@...

(Brancepeth is on the A690, five miles south-west of Durham)

It's surprising how loud a trompette sounds to listeners compared to the
apparent volume to the player. You only have to listen to a recording of your
playing to verify that. I'd usually start with a 0.9mm and see how it sounds.
0.8, 0.7, 0.6 are all possibilities. As you reduce the size of the string, as
well as making the trompette quieter, you also increase the sensitivity of it so
it's win win really.

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., robert loechler <robertloechler@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Gurdymaker,
> �� Thanks for the string tips...Here is my setup with a D#/G# from
hurdygurdycrafters in the US:Gros and Petit bourdons:Pirastro wound cello c and
d(?).These are fine.Unison chanters:gut .041".Mouche:gut .048".A tad quiet but
acceptable.Trompette:gut .036 with superglue added to string slot.Still a tad
loud...Thus,I am interested in what gauge perlon you are using for the trompette
in case I decide to go for a quieter trompette/buzz.Actually,with this HG I can
run 5 strings in G# tuning at once even with the somewhat loud trompette:Petit
bourdon,2 chanters,Mouche,Trompette.However,the trompette obscures the melody
line a bit,so a quieter trompette would be perfect...Thanks for the perlon gauge
info...Robert
>
> --- On Tue, 11/17/09, gurdymaker <hurdygurdy@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: gurdymaker <hurdygurdy@...>
> Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Re: Strings - alternative chanterelle strings for
veggies/vegans:
> To: HurdyGurdyForum@...
> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 3:42 PM
>
>
> Hi Bridget
>
> Synthetic strings are so much more stable than gut that I'm surprised gut is
still the standard material. They do give a gut sound of course but once you get
used to the sound of synthetic strings, the benefits would seem to outweigh the
drawbacks
>
> I use the Corelli Crystal violin d medium for the 2nd chanter and a
"Wonderstring" for the 1st in d/g tuning.
>
> I've just bought a Corelli Crystal violin a to try on a new G/C gurdy. The
Crystal violin g string works well as an octave down chanterelle but a lot
depends on the resonant properties of the instrument.
>
> The customer is a vegetarian so my usual Pirastro Aricore cello c & d are the
bourdons and B&Q 1.4mm strimmer line works great for a mouche.
> I've lately moved to perlon for my trompettes and can't fault it. The
fundamental volume is nice and light and they give a really crisp buzz -
possobly because they are slightly oval in section so present a larger surface
area to the wheel and also will have less air resistance. It's not just any old
fishing line unfortunately. I sent off to " Broxxline" in Germany and got a reel
of every size they had. I can now empirically select the trompette sound .
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Bridget" <bridget.halpin@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the information Neil.
> > Peter Streng, the guy who had the strings at the w/e workshop, did mention
that you have to be careful when putting cotton on the strings because of the
fine windings.� I'm not sure how long he's had the strings on his HG - I don't
think it's that long.� Well, I guess I'll see how long they last.
> > The Corelli Crystal strings you've tried, were they for a D/G or G/C HG and
could you give me details of the strings?� Thanks!
> > Bridget
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "gurdymaker" <hurdygurdy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've tried these and they are a good sound. My problem was the windings
seemed to break too easily at the wheel so they did not last long. Corelli
Crystal are a similar synthetic core string and the windings seem to be much
tougher.
> > >
> > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., nicolas@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I use Vision stings on my instruments to - but for viola
> > > > Work fine for me.
> > > >
> > > > Nicolas
> > > >
> > > > > A couple of weeks ago I was at a weekend HG workshop near Frankfurt.�
One
> > > > > of the tutors had new (chanterelle) strings on his hurdy gurdy and
they
> > > > > sounded fantastic so I� ordered one high g and one low g for my G/C
HG. I
> > > > > am very pleased with the sound and response of the strings.
> > > > >
> > > > > They are Thomastik "Vision" strings (for 4/4 violin), metal wound with
a
> > > > > nylon (?) - definitely non-gut - core and are inexpensive as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the high g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi02st, 4/4 violin, a
> > > > > (G.634114) = EUR 6.60 incl. VAT
> > > > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11608?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > > > >
> > > > > For the low g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi04w, 4/4 violin, g-4
> > > > > (G.634121) = EUR 10.10 incl. VAT
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11610?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > > > >
> > > > > The strings are suitable for HGs with a sounding length of up to 350mm
> > > > > (it's a tight fit but just works).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bridget
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Greetings All

Australian TV has just finished showing the series Aussie Ladette to Lady.

http://channelnine.ninemsn.com.au/aussieladettetolady/

Don't ask me why I was watching it, because I have no idea.

Imagine my surprise when in the final extended episode it include a 'Summer
Revel' and featured a 4 piece Medieval group that included a Hurdy Gurdy player.

I didn't see who the group was in the credits.  Does anyone have any ideas as to
their identity?

Cheers
Lee the Lad
Canberra
Australia

Hi Neil,
Thanks for the information.  May try out an alternative trompette string one of
these days.  And I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the Corelli
Crystal strings (for the G/C HG).
I think you're right about the gut strings - they were on my gurdy as they are
standard with Reichmann HGs (although Kurt is also keen to find suitable
alternatives).
And also thanks to Roddy for his input.  I hadn't written anything about strings
until now as I hadn't had any experience with any alternative ones.  But I think
it's great to be able to read about the strings forum users use on their HGs and
what experience they have with them.
Cheers!
Bridget

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "gurdymaker" <hurdygurdy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bridget
>
> Synthetic strings are so much more stable than gut that I'm surprised gut is
still the standard material. They do give a gut sound of course but once you get
used to the sound of synthetic strings, the benefits would seem to outweigh the
drawbacks
>
> I use the Corelli Crystal violin d medium for the 2nd chanter and a
"Wonderstring" for the 1st in d/g tuning.
>
> I've just bought a Corelli Crystal violin a to try on a new G/C gurdy. The
Crystal violin g string works well as an octave down chanterelle but a lot
depends on the resonant properties of the instrument.
>
> The customer is a vegetarian so my usual Pirastro Aricore cello c & d are the
bourdons and B&Q 1.4mm strimmer line works great for a mouche.
> I've lately moved to perlon for my trompettes and can't fault it. The
fundamental volume is nice and light and they give a really crisp buzz -
possobly because they are slightly oval in section so present a larger surface
area to the wheel and also will have less air resistance. It's not just any old
fishing line unfortunately. I sent off to " Broxxline" in Germany and got a reel
of every size they had. I can now empirically select the trompette sound .
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Bridget" <bridget.halpin@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the information Neil.
> > Peter Streng, the guy who had the strings at the w/e workshop, did mention
that you have to be careful when putting cotton on the strings because of the
fine windings.  I'm not sure how long he's had the strings on his HG - I don't
think it's that long.  Well, I guess I'll see how long they last.
> > The Corelli Crystal strings you've tried, were they for a D/G or G/C HG and
could you give me details of the strings?  Thanks!
> > Bridget
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "gurdymaker" <hurdygurdy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've tried these and they are a good sound. My problem was the windings
seemed to break too easily at the wheel so they did not last long. Corelli
Crystal are a similar synthetic core string and the windings seem to be much
tougher.
> > >
> > > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., nicolas@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I use Vision stings on my instruments to - but for viola
> > > > Work fine for me.
> > > >
> > > > Nicolas
> > > >
> > > > > A couple of weeks ago I was at a weekend HG workshop near Frankfurt. 
One
> > > > > of the tutors had new (chanterelle) strings on his hurdy gurdy and
they
> > > > > sounded fantastic so I  ordered one high g and one low g for my G/C
HG. I
> > > > > am very pleased with the sound and response of the strings.
> > > > >
> > > > > They are Thomastik "Vision" strings (for 4/4 violin), metal wound with
a
> > > > > nylon (?) - definitely non-gut - core and are inexpensive as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the high g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi02st, 4/4 violin, a
> > > > > (G.634114) = EUR 6.60 incl. VAT
> > > > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11608?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > > > >
> > > > > For the low g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi04w, 4/4 violin, g-4
> > > > > (G.634121) = EUR 10.10 incl. VAT
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11610?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > > > >
> > > > > The strings are suitable for HGs with a sounding length of up to 350mm
> > > > > (it's a tight fit but just works).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bridget
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi Bridget

Synthetic strings are so much more stable than gut that I'm surprised gut is
still the standard material. They do give a gut sound of course but once you get
used to the sound of synthetic strings, the benefits would seem to outweigh the
drawbacks

I use the Corelli Crystal violin d medium for the 2nd chanter and a
"Wonderstring" for the 1st in d/g tuning.

I've just bought a Corelli Crystal violin a to try on a new G/C gurdy. The
Crystal violin g string works well as an octave down chanterelle but a lot
depends on the resonant properties of the instrument.

The customer is a vegetarian so my usual Pirastro Aricore cello c & d are the
bourdons and B&Q 1.4mm strimmer line works great for a mouche.
I've lately moved to perlon for my trompettes and can't fault it. The
fundamental volume is nice and light and they give a really crisp buzz -
possobly because they are slightly oval in section so present a larger surface
area to the wheel and also will have less air resistance. It's not just any old
fishing line unfortunately. I sent off to " Broxxline" in Germany and got a reel
of every size they had. I can now empirically select the trompette sound .

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Bridget" <bridget.halpin@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information Neil.
> Peter Streng, the guy who had the strings at the w/e workshop, did mention
that you have to be careful when putting cotton on the strings because of the
fine windings.  I'm not sure how long he's had the strings on his HG - I don't
think it's that long.  Well, I guess I'll see how long they last.
> The Corelli Crystal strings you've tried, were they for a D/G or G/C HG and
could you give me details of the strings?  Thanks!
> Bridget
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "gurdymaker" <hurdygurdy@> wrote:
> >
> > I've tried these and they are a good sound. My problem was the windings
seemed to break too easily at the wheel so they did not last long. Corelli
Crystal are a similar synthetic core string and the windings seem to be much
tougher.
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., nicolas@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I use Vision stings on my instruments to - but for viola
> > > Work fine for me.
> > >
> > > Nicolas
> > >
> > > > A couple of weeks ago I was at a weekend HG workshop near Frankfurt. 
One
> > > > of the tutors had new (chanterelle) strings on his hurdy gurdy and they
> > > > sounded fantastic so I  ordered one high g and one low g for my G/C HG.
I
> > > > am very pleased with the sound and response of the strings.
> > > >
> > > > They are Thomastik "Vision" strings (for 4/4 violin), metal wound with a
> > > > nylon (?) - definitely non-gut - core and are inexpensive as well.
> > > >
> > > > For the high g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi02st, 4/4 violin, a
> > > > (G.634114) = EUR 6.60 incl. VAT
> > > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11608?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > > >
> > > > For the low g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi04w, 4/4 violin, g-4
> > > > (G.634121) = EUR 10.10 incl. VAT
> > > >
> > > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11610?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > > >
> > > > The strings are suitable for HGs with a sounding length of up to 350mm
> > > > (it's a tight fit but just works).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Bridget
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hooray someone else talking about strings...you do really need to drag it out of
some people you know.

I have tried almost everything possible by now...cost a small fortune as well.
And only three people actually gave me any help which was gratefully received.
Why the silence from everone else? Do they ALL use gut? Impossible.

Here's what I found:
The Thomastic Vision strings have a fantastic sound. the viola d for a lower d
2nd chanter is lovely but self destucts instantly if you don't deal with it very
carefully. Same as the violin ones unfortunately. You can put a brang spanking
new string on there and the wind breaks the minute you twist for cottom...string
ruined. Useless in a gigging situation but lovely for studio work.
Shame because the coreli strings don't sound as good. I have alliance viola d
for second chanter on my Boireaud lute back and it is as good as I am going to
get unless someone else can give me that lovely viola/cello sound from the
Viosion strings without them breaking! Or another string that fits the bill. I
also use the crystal strings too but prefer alliance. Cost more unfortunately.
My first chanter is an Aquila nylgut .66 It has a sweet tone although a little
quiet. But that quietness blends nicely with the viola string and you get a
smooth and mellow tone. It really is lovely...especially since I fitted
'pegheads' from Neil Brook and managed to get the tuning a bit more stable. It
is a sweet gentle tone.
I use nylgut for trompette too. .97 for that one. works well. Cello strings for
mouche (thomastic dominant) and Viola da gmba 7th for the low D drone. My mouche
is A and the small drone G
Strange in that a higher percentage of musicians are veggie and yet we have
little conversation about stringing which is pretty crucial to a Vielle
player.Unless people just use gut as that is what was on the instrument when it
arrived and they really haven't had to change a string yet. Obviously as
compassionate people we would not waste a gut string by throwing it away just
because it is gut...a bit like throwing away your old leather shoes or a fur
coat so I can understand that but at sometime that string is going to need to be
replaced.



--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Bridget" <bridget.halpin@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information Neil.
> Peter Streng, the guy who had the strings at the w/e workshop, did mention
that you have to be careful when putting cotton on the strings because of the
fine windings.  I'm not sure how long he's had the strings on his HG - I don't
think it's that long.  Well, I guess I'll see how long they last.
> The Corelli Crystal strings you've tried, were they for a D/G or G/C HG and
could you give me details of the strings?  Thanks!
> Bridget
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "gurdymaker" <hurdygurdy@> wrote:
> >
> > I've tried these and they are a good sound. My problem was the windings
seemed to break too easily at the wheel so they did not last long. Corelli
Crystal are a similar synthetic core string and the windings seem to be much
tougher.
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., nicolas@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I use Vision stings on my instruments to - but for viola
> > > Work fine for me.
> > >
> > > Nicolas
> > >
> > > > A couple of weeks ago I was at a weekend HG workshop near Frankfurt. 
One
> > > > of the tutors had new (chanterelle) strings on his hurdy gurdy and they
> > > > sounded fantastic so I  ordered one high g and one low g for my G/C HG.
I
> > > > am very pleased with the sound and response of the strings.
> > > >
> > > > They are Thomastik "Vision" strings (for 4/4 violin), metal wound with a
> > > > nylon (?) - definitely non-gut - core and are inexpensive as well.
> > > >
> > > > For the high g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi02st, 4/4 violin, a
> > > > (G.634114) = EUR 6.60 incl. VAT
> > > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11608?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > > >
> > > > For the low g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi04w, 4/4 violin, g-4
> > > > (G.634121) = EUR 10.10 incl. VAT
> > > >
> > > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11610?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > > >
> > > > The strings are suitable for HGs with a sounding length of up to 350mm
> > > > (it's a tight fit but just works).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Bridget
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Thanks for the information Neil.
Peter Streng, the guy who had the strings at the w/e workshop, did mention that
you have to be careful when putting cotton on the strings because of the fine
windings.  I'm not sure how long he's had the strings on his HG - I don't think
it's that long.  Well, I guess I'll see how long they last.
The Corelli Crystal strings you've tried, were they for a D/G or G/C HG and
could you give me details of the strings?  Thanks!
Bridget

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "gurdymaker" <hurdygurdy@...> wrote:
>
> I've tried these and they are a good sound. My problem was the windings seemed
to break too easily at the wheel so they did not last long. Corelli Crystal are
a similar synthetic core string and the windings seem to be much tougher.
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., nicolas@ wrote:
> >
> > I use Vision stings on my instruments to - but for viola
> > Work fine for me.
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
> > > A couple of weeks ago I was at a weekend HG workshop near Frankfurt.  One
> > > of the tutors had new (chanterelle) strings on his hurdy gurdy and they
> > > sounded fantastic so I  ordered one high g and one low g for my G/C HG. I
> > > am very pleased with the sound and response of the strings.
> > >
> > > They are Thomastik "Vision" strings (for 4/4 violin), metal wound with a
> > > nylon (?) - definitely non-gut - core and are inexpensive as well.
> > >
> > > For the high g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi02st, 4/4 violin, a
> > > (G.634114) = EUR 6.60 incl. VAT
> > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11608?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > >
> > > For the low g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi04w, 4/4 violin, g-4
> > > (G.634121) = EUR 10.10 incl. VAT
> > >
> > >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11610?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> > >
> > > The strings are suitable for HGs with a sounding length of up to 350mm
> > > (it's a tight fit but just works).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Bridget
> > >
> > >
> >
>

I've tried these and they are a good sound. My problem was the windings seemed
to break too easily at the wheel so they did not last long. Corelli Crystal are
a similar synthetic core string and the windings seem to be much tougher.

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., nicolas@... wrote:
>
> I use Vision stings on my instruments to - but for viola
> Work fine for me.
>
> Nicolas
>
> > A couple of weeks ago I was at a weekend HG workshop near Frankfurt.  One
> > of the tutors had new (chanterelle) strings on his hurdy gurdy and they
> > sounded fantastic so I  ordered one high g and one low g for my G/C HG. I
> > am very pleased with the sound and response of the strings.
> >
> > They are Thomastik "Vision" strings (for 4/4 violin), metal wound with a
> > nylon (?) - definitely non-gut - core and are inexpensive as well.
> >
> > For the high g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi02st, 4/4 violin, a
> > (G.634114) = EUR 6.60 incl. VAT
> >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11608?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> >
> > For the low g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi04w, 4/4 violin, g-4
> > (G.634121) = EUR 10.10 incl. VAT
> >
> >
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11610?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
> >
> > The strings are suitable for HGs with a sounding length of up to 350mm
> > (it's a tight fit but just works).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Bridget
> >
> >
>

I use Vision stings on my instruments to - but for viola
Work fine for me.

Nicolas

> A couple of weeks ago I was at a weekend HG workshop near Frankfurt.  One
> of the tutors had new (chanterelle) strings on his hurdy gurdy and they
> sounded fantastic so I  ordered one high g and one low g for my G/C HG. I
> am very pleased with the sound and response of the strings.
>
> They are Thomastik "Vision" strings (for 4/4 violin), metal wound with a
> nylon (?) - definitely non-gut - core and are inexpensive as well.
>
> For the high g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi02st, 4/4 violin, a
> (G.634114) = EUR 6.60 incl. VAT
>
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11608?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
>
> For the low g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi04w, 4/4 violin, g-4
> (G.634121) = EUR 10.10 incl. VAT
>
>
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11610?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78
>
> The strings are suitable for HGs with a sounding length of up to 350mm
> (it's a tight fit but just works).
>
> Regards,
>
> Bridget
>
>

A couple of weeks ago I was at a weekend HG workshop near Frankfurt.  One of the
tutors had new (chanterelle) strings on his hurdy gurdy and they sounded
fantastic so I  ordered one high g and one low g for my G/C HG. I am very
pleased with the sound and response of the strings.

They are Thomastik "Vision" strings (for 4/4 violin), metal wound with a nylon
(?) - definitely non-gut - core and are inexpensive as well.

For the high g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi02st, 4/4 violin, a (G.634114)
= EUR 6.60 incl. VAT
http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11608?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78

For the low g chanterelle: Thomastik "vision" vi04w, 4/4 violin, g-4 (G.634121)
= EUR 10.10 incl. VAT

http://saitenkatalog.de/shop2/product_info.php/cPath/397_71_281_548/products_id/\
11610?osCsid=b88cad7f20ae9abcbbbed0c1062bbb78

The strings are suitable for HGs with a sounding length of up to 350mm (it's a
tight fit but just works).

Regards,

Bridget

Hi All,

extremely rare edition i.e. not the modern Minkoff reproduction, of Corette's
methode de la vielle in good condition on Ebay.fr
Item 290354759193

Might be of interest to someone, buy it now @ 99 euros; I don't think I can
afford it!

From hurdygurdy.com bibliography:

Methode pour apprendre a jouer de la vielle
By Michel Corrette, 1763, published by David, Paris.
In French. Only known copies are on microfilm. Original is in Bibliotheque du
Conservatoire de musique, Paris. This is an earlier version of La Belle
Vielleuse, and is not as complete. [MB] May have been reprinted by Early Music
Facsimilies. [AH]

Cheers,

Steve

Hi everyone,

Mark V. pointed this out last night with not much time left. Prego's first CD
Mocha Express (1993) is on eBay. I think it's now unavailable and discontinued.
Is that right Mark?

Enzo