Hi everyone,

Not everyone's cup of tea I realise, but if you're into baroque stuff
there's an LP by Claude Flagel with about 3 days left to go. It's all music
from La Belle Vielleuse by Michel Corrette, robustly played and with good
accomanying musicians. Item number 260514100178

I first heard it in 1982 and thought it was inspirational.

Enzo

Enzo, it's a really nice record, I bought a copy a couple of years ago :)
--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., Enzo Puzzovio <dante.f@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Not everyone's cup of tea I realise, but if you're into baroque stuff
> there's an LP by Claude Flagel with about 3 days left to go. It's all music
> from La Belle Vielleuse by Michel Corrette, robustly played and with good
> accomanying musicians. Item number 260514100178
>
> I first heard it in 1982 and thought it was inspirational.
>
> Enzo
>

Okay, I'm not playing HG yet (I'll be able to afford an instrument in the
Spring, I hope), but I'd like to understand this.

What makes a piece of music suitable for HG (or, I guess, that would be for any
instrument with drones, right?).

I've been away from music (playing or even seriously singing) for quite a while,
so I'm just not "getting" this.

Thanks!
Mary

In my opinion a music theory answer could be:

In principle hurdy-gurdies and bagpipes can be assumed to play in 2 keys: the
principal key of the drone; and (assuming that there are no drones on 5ths to
muddle things up) the key a fourth above the drone. Thus: a D/G gurdy droning
only D, plays in the keys of D and G, and a C/G gurdy, in principle, can play
tunes in C and F over C drone, or G and C over a G drone. Plus in all cases the
actual minors are available also: Dmin, Gmin, etc. It seems to me that on the
C/G hurdy-gurdy in practice F is avoided as unnecessary. In other words drones
work best either as the root note or fifth.

Here are some that should work:
Any tune that when written down does not have accidentals.
Any tune with accidentals if they are only for 'colouring'.
Any tune with accidentals if they only function to modulate the tune to the 4th
(Sub-dominant) or 5th (Dominant)before returning the tune to its home key.

There are other more advanced possibilities of course but it starts to get
rather complicated, if not inexplicable, and it is precisely this factor that
keep some of us interested.

Good luck.

R






--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "victoryfarm" <ms-victoryfarm@...>
wrote:
>
> Okay, I'm not playing HG yet (I'll be able to afford an instrument in the
Spring, I hope), but I'd like to understand this.
>
> What makes a piece of music suitable for HG (or, I guess, that would be for
any instrument with drones, right?).
>
> I've been away from music (playing or even seriously singing) for quite a
while, so I'm just not "getting" this.
>
> Thanks!
> Mary
>

Mary,

  From my new found understanding of music theory, I would have said what
Richard said, but far less elegantly.
I'll add a couple of things...

1. An obvious one is that the hurdy gurdy only plays over 2 octaves so
your tune may need some adjustment if it spans beyond that.

2. Lots of folk and I suppose practically all early music is not
necessarily tied to a modern key but rather to a mode.  That means that
not only is the expected playing style a little different, but also that
a simple view of counting the sharps and flats in modern notation will
only be a guide to how it will sound with the intervals in the
corresponding mode, especially against the drones.

3. Because the tangent layout does not change between GC and DG tunings,
the note positions do, so the GC layout akin to a white/black keyboard
of a piano, but in DG you have F# in the "white" notes (because the
natural scale is G).  This affects fingering of course, so some tunes
are "easier" to play transposed and others as written.

And one query to Richard: Do you mean the actual minors here or relative
minors?  I would have thought that D/G playing in G (one sharp) and D
(two sharps) also plays E minor and B minor with the appropriate C/D and
G/A accidentals?  Hmm ... C# against a D drone ... Maybe I'm wrong ...

Mark

On 03/12/09 08:48, richard338293 wrote:
> In my opinion a music theory answer could be:
>
> In principle hurdy-gurdies and bagpipes can be assumed to play in 2 keys: the
principal key of the drone; and (assuming that there are no drones on 5ths to
muddle things up) the key a fourth above the drone. Thus: a D/G gurdy droning
only D, plays in the keys of D and G, and a C/G gurdy, in principle, can play
tunes in C and F over C drone, or G and C over a G drone. Plus in all cases the
actual minors are available also: Dmin, Gmin, etc. It seems to me that on the
C/G hurdy-gurdy in practice F is avoided as unnecessary. In other words drones
work best either as the root note or fifth.
>
> Here are some that should work:
> Any tune that when written down does not have accidentals.
> Any tune with accidentals if they are only for 'colouring'.
> Any tune with accidentals if they only function to modulate the tune to the
4th (Sub-dominant) or 5th (Dominant)before returning the tune to its home key.
>
> There are other more advanced possibilities of course but it starts to get
rather complicated, if not inexplicable, and it is precisely this factor that
keep some of us interested.
>
> Good luck.
>
> R
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "victoryfarm"<ms-victoryfarm@...> 
wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'm not playing HG yet (I'll be able to afford an instrument in the
Spring, I hope), but I'd like to understand this.
>>
>> What makes a piece of music suitable for HG (or, I guess, that would be for
any instrument with drones, right?).
>>
>> I've been away from music (playing or even seriously singing) for quite a
while, so I'm just not "getting" this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mary
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Hello Mary Don't panic! just work on the principle that all music is suitable for the hurdy-gurdy but accept that some musics are more suitable than others. Welcome to the wonderful world of the hurdy-gurdy and don't worry, you will get it.  Philip G Martin aka Drohne www.drohne.co.uk --- On Wed, 2/12/09, victoryfarm <ms-victoryfarm@...> wrote: From: victoryfarm <ms-victoryfarm@...> Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] A real newbie's question To: HurdyGurdyForum@... Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 21:14   Okay, I'm not playing HG yet (I'll be able to afford an instrument in the Spring, I hope), but I'd like to understand this. What makes a piece of music suitable for HG (or, I guess, that would be for any instrument with drones, right?). I've been away from music (playing or even seriously singing) for quite a while, so I'm just not "getting" this. Thanks! Mary

Mark,

Yes I did mean actual minors and NOT relative minors precisely because the
drones remain the same.

I imagined the question as coming from someone who might look at a written down
tune, perhaps in a book of folk songs, and wonder if it would work on the
hurdy-gurdy.

And again, I think drone is almost magical and some of what is possible is very
difficult to explain by music theory: I think it has to do with weird stuff that
goes on in our heads: aural illusion.

Richard



And one query to Richard: Do you mean the actual minors here or relative
minors? I would have thought that D/G playing in G (one sharp) and D
(two sharps) also plays E minor and B minor with the appropriate C/D and
G/A accidentals? Hmm ... C# against a D drone ... Maybe I'm wrong ...

Mark

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., Mark J Hewitt <m.hewitt@...> wrote:
>
> Mary,
>
>  From my new found understanding of music theory, I would have said what
> Richard said, but far less elegantly.
> I'll add a couple of things...
>
> 1. An obvious one is that the hurdy gurdy only plays over 2 octaves so
> your tune may need some adjustment if it spans beyond that.
>
> 2. Lots of folk and I suppose practically all early music is not
> necessarily tied to a modern key but rather to a mode.  That means that
> not only is the expected playing style a little different, but also that
> a simple view of counting the sharps and flats in modern notation will
> only be a guide to how it will sound with the intervals in the
> corresponding mode, especially against the drones.
>
> 3. Because the tangent layout does not change between GC and DG tunings,
> the note positions do, so the GC layout akin to a white/black keyboard
> of a piano, but in DG you have F# in the "white" notes (because the
> natural scale is G).  This affects fingering of course, so some tunes
> are "easier" to play transposed and others as written.
>
> And one query to Richard: Do you mean the actual minors here or relative
> minors?  I would have thought that D/G playing in G (one sharp) and D
> (two sharps) also plays E minor and B minor with the appropriate C/D and
> G/A accidentals?  Hmm ... C# against a D drone ... Maybe I'm wrong ...
>
> Mark
>
> On 03/12/09 08:48, richard338293 wrote:
> > In my opinion a music theory answer could be:
> >
> > In principle hurdy-gurdies and bagpipes can be assumed to play in 2 keys:
the principal key of the drone; and (assuming that there are no drones on 5ths
to muddle things up) the key a fourth above the drone. Thus: a D/G gurdy droning
only D, plays in the keys of D and G, and a C/G gurdy, in principle, can play
tunes in C and F over C drone, or G and C over a G drone. Plus in all cases the
actual minors are available also: Dmin, Gmin, etc. It seems to me that on the
C/G hurdy-gurdy in practice F is avoided as unnecessary. In other words drones
work best either as the root note or fifth.
> >
> > Here are some that should work:
> > Any tune that when written down does not have accidentals.
> > Any tune with accidentals if they are only for 'colouring'.
> > Any tune with accidentals if they only function to modulate the tune to the
4th (Sub-dominant) or 5th (Dominant)before returning the tune to its home key.
> >
> > There are other more advanced possibilities of course but it starts to get
rather complicated, if not inexplicable, and it is precisely this factor that
keep some of us interested.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > R
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "victoryfarm"<ms-victoryfarm@> 
wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, I'm not playing HG yet (I'll be able to afford an instrument in the
Spring, I hope), but I'd like to understand this.
> >>
> >> What makes a piece of music suitable for HG (or, I guess, that would be for
any instrument with drones, right?).
> >>
> >> I've been away from music (playing or even seriously singing) for quite a
while, so I'm just not "getting" this.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Mary
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

robert loechler <robertloechler@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Mary,
> Suitable HG music?First,you might check youtube.com and
> listen to what other HG players are up to with their repertoires?

Oh, already doing that, of course! LOL!


> One final word though:I ordered my HG from hurdygurdycrafters.com
> 3 months before I thought would be prudent given the $2000
> involved.


Prudent isn't the issue. I'd assume the seller/maker would actually like to
receive the money!  :-) Yes, it will have to wait, unless, of course, hubby
finally hits the lottery...

Thanks for all the great info!

M.

LORNA CLARKE <lorna.robin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mary you should also cjheck out Neil's site
> http://www.hurdy-gurdy.org.uk/  plenty of HG  music there :O)
> regards
> Robin
>


Thanks, Robin!

I've been to his site, but haven't had much time to explore it very much. I'll
be sure to do that.

M.

"richard338293" <richardhaynes@...> wrote:
>
>
> In my opinion a music theory answer could be:
>
> <snip>


Dear Richard-

Yes, this is what I meant (and clearly didn't word very well! I just shouldn't
ask questions when fighting a migraine - I "lose" too many words).

This is a huge help. And I do realize that it can get much more complicated,
but, from a beginner's standpoint, this is extremely helpful.

Thanks so much!
Mary

Mark J Hewitt <m.hewitt@...> wrote:
>
> Mary,
>
>  From my new found understanding of music theory,
> I would have said what
> Richard said, but far less elegantly.

Well, Mark, judging from what you wrote below, I don't know that I'd agree with
the last!  :-)


> I'll add a couple of things...
>
> <snip>


Thanks for these- they are certainly good things to keep in mind!
M.

<drohne@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Mary
> Don't panic! just work on the principle that all music is suitable
> for the hurdy-gurdy but accept that some musics are more suitable
> than others.
> Welcome to the wonderful world of the hurdy-gurdy and don't worry, you will
get it. 
>
> Philip G Martin aka Drohne
> www.drohne.co.uk
>


Dear Philip:

Thanks so much for the encouragement! It wasn't a panic really - more a case of
curiosity. I've just been away from music for too long, and am discovering that
I've forgotten much of what I once knew. It's a little frustrating, but goes to
prove the saying, "use it or lose it!"  :-)

Mary

"richard338293" <richardhaynes@...> wrote:
>
>
> And again, I think drone is almost magical and some of what is possible is
very difficult to explain by music theory: I think it has to do with weird stuff
that goes on in our heads: aural illusion.
>
> Richard
>



And therein lies the magic of music!  :-)

M.

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arm/wrist pressing against the pegbox.  And of course, if I need to move my hand
to play some far away notes, I have to momentarily lift up my wrist/lower arm,
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arm/wrist pressing against the pegbox.  And of course, if I need to move my hand
to play some far away notes, I have to momentarily lift up my wrist/lower arm,
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Hi All

I am looking for the dots/abc/midi etc. of madranque

I heard it played by Gilles Chabanat the other day at the Royal Albert Hall...

Anyone able to help please :-)

I believe it might have been written by Valentin Clastrier

:-)

Ty

d.

Well, I'm not familiar with this forum, so I apologise for any
etiquette-breaches I make. I don't even know if I'm using it right...

I want to start playing the hurdy gurdy and have £2300 to spend on one. Never
played one before, though I have a background in music and play a load of other
instruments. Aah, I don't want to sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet, but I'm
an incredibly fast learner, too. Like, unreal-ly fast, if that matters.

So, I eventually want to start playing both acoustically and plugged in,
probably music along the lines of Fejd, Eluveitie, Hippjokk-era Hedningarna.
Harsh-sounding folk, rock, metal, that kind of direction.

So, I want a hurdy gurdy that can do all that and also be decent enough to play
on my own, for practice mostly.

£2300 isn't the upper limit I'd pay, that's just how much I have at the moment.
I was looking at the Gotschy's Phoenix Abraxas, and have emailed him a few
times, though haven't heard back.

If someone could give me some advice on a hurdy gurdy to go for, I'd really
appreciate it.

One last thing, I'd much rather buy an instrument with bells and whistles now,
rather than buy a cheap one to learn on then upgrade to a better one later. It
may not seem wise in case I stop playing, but I know myself well enough to know
that's the better way of doing it.

Cheers for listening to the typings of a newbie.
Fionn

Hi Dan

I thought I sent you the dots and mp3 on Sunday ?

Graham
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dan wrote:
> Hi All
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> I am looking for the dots/abc/midi etc. of madranque
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> I heard it played by Gilles Chabanat the other day at the Royal Albert Hall...
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> Anyone able to help please :-)
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> I believe it might have been written by Valentin Clastrier
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> :-)
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> Ty
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> d.
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-----Original Message-----
From: JULIE BARKER [mailto:drohne@...]
Sent: 15 December 2009 10:12
To: HurdyGurdyForum@...
Subject: SPAM50:Re: [HurdyGurdyForum] Any good people with some spare advice?

 

Hello Fionn Wanting an all singing all dancing gurdy to learn on goes very much against conventional wisdom as it is generally easier to learn on a good student model. Also student models generally have shorter waiting lists so if you get one of these you can be learning whilst you wait for your big one. This learning time will also give you an opportunity to decide what you want from a hurdy gurdy. It is worth noting that good student models do hold their price secondhand so you really have nothing to lose by taking this route. Where are you? The reason I ask is that you could have a gurdy maker near you eg; Neil Brook in NW England, Claire Dugue in SE, Mike Gilpin in Norfolk and Chris Allen in Wales. If you still insist on going for the big one as your first instrument I may just know someone who has one for sale, but it will be above your current budget. Contact me off list and I could put you in touch. Philip Philip G Martin aka Drohne www.drohne.co.uk --- On Sun, 13/12/09, thefionnmeister <the-fionnmeister@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: From: thefionnmeister <the-fionnmeister@hotmail.co.uk> Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Any good people with some spare advice? To: HurdygurdyForum@yahoogroups.co.uk Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 23:11   Well, I'm not familiar with this forum, so I apologise for any etiquette-breaches I make. I don't even know if I'm using it right... I want to start playing the hurdy gurdy and have £2300 to spend on one. Never played one before, though I have a background in music and play a load of other instruments. Aah, I don't want to sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet, but I'm an incredibly fast learner, too. Like, unreal-ly fast, if that matters. So, I eventually want to start playing both acoustically and plugged in, probably music along the lines of Fejd, Eluveitie, Hippjokk-era Hedningarna. Harsh-sounding folk, rock, metal, that kind of direction. So, I want a hurdy gurdy that can do all that and also be decent enough to play on my own, for practice mostly. £2300 isn't the upper limit I'd pay, that's just how much I have at the moment. I was looking at the Gotschy's Phoenix Abraxas, and have emailed him a few times, though haven't heard back. If someone could give me some advice on a hurdy gurdy to go for, I'd really appreciate it. One last thing, I'd much rather buy an instrument with bells and whistles now, rather than buy a cheap one to learn on then upgrade to a better one later. It may not seem wise in case I stop playing, but I know myself well enough to know that's the better way of doing it. Cheers for listening to the typings of a newbie. Fionn

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