Richard,

The coup gras is a controlled motion but you should not have to hold on with a death grip to make it.
As the others stated, play as normal and crank up the tirant until it starts a continuous buzz then crank it down until it stops the full time buzzing but takes very little effort to buzz.
Try the coup gras without actually gripping the handle by putting the handle in your hand ( your normal playing position) and pushing inward slightly toward the head. You should be able to buzz without actually holding on to the handle (a technique demonstrated to me by Matthias Loidner, who performed a coup de 6 with the handle at his wrist). It takes some practice but you'll find that a bit of inward pressure is all you need to do the coup gras with regular success.
The idea here is to break you of the habit and to provide you with an alternative to "the grip of death".

Scott

Paul Sherwood <paulsherwood6@...> wrote:

Richard, I know that this is one of the things you told us not to say, but I think it is worth saying, to get the 'coup gras' (I think thats the right name ..and hopefully spelling) you needn't grip hard, just close the hand a bit. And as Neil says, practice little and often is best. Are you coming to Otley? .. I would happy to spend some time one these things in the Saturday afternoon workshop.

Paul

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Andy Carter <AndyCarter@...> wrote:

 

If you intersperse long buzzes with rhythmic ones, you're only gripping for some of the time, perhaps?
Or concentrate on maintaining the 'cage' as you go round so you're not gripping the wheel at all - the handle is rotating inside the cage and its just the speed of the wheel causing the buzz?
Don't know anything else to try, I've been given lots of advice on the trompette over the years but I'm still not that good on it!

Cheers
Andy

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Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Grip of Death
 

Thanks again for all the help with triplets - I'm working on them, and it will take time, but there is hope!

Meanwhile between that, and some fairly intensive practice on some new tunes, using the continuous buzz as part of the circle... I'm sure there's a proper name for that... I find I'm getting what the Northumbrian smallpipes world calls the grip of death when I hold the handle for the continuous buzz, and I'm getting the beginning of some carpal tunnel type wrist pain.

Other than "force yourself to relax" and "stop playing until it goes away"  I'll once again be grateful for any helpful advice, please.

Best wishes (ezz , ezzzzzz, ezezez) to all,
Richard.

hi all
i wanted to purchase a set of plans for the bosch
if any one knows where i can get them from or sells them
i would be greatful
keith

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<keiththompson011@...> wrote:
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> hi all
> i wanted to purchase a set of plans for the bosch
> if any one knows where i can get them from or sells them
> i would be greatful
> keith
>

Hi Keith,

have you been here?

http://home.freeuk.net/musicworks/hg_build.htm

Regards,

Steve

hi steve
i have got a very nice set of drawings for the Marchand hg from
http://home.freeuk.net/musicworks/hg_build.htm
there is a link to http://home.freeuk.net/musicworks/hg_build.htm
which mention plans for the bosch i have sent them an email but no reply has yet
regards
keith

Hi All
I'm going to be in Cambridge next weds, dropping my instrument off with Mike for
some repairs. I know that Cam-French is on that evening and would love to attend
- but would have to ask someone to put me up (preferably in town as I would need
to be on a train next morning) I could bring a sleeping bag - I don't think I
snore!
If anyone's feeling kind please get in touch with me directly

Thanks

Clare

Martin Keates from Skeller and Chris Allen will be giving gurdy workshops at the
Rudry Weekend next month. It will be an excellent weekend of French, Breton and
Swedish music, singing and dancing and food:

http://www.pentreffest.org.uk/EE/index.php?/Pentreffest/Rudry_Weekend/

Looks good!

PS PDF Flyer Here:
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cIt5ThAdXC4mkdKeJB6AbWgriU1dvEX9x495SghW8sYmQDgzLz0\
6IVH0AMZ7XJ76LbjzgyEVWq7OajaIfrAwOQ/Pentreffest%20Rudry%202011.pdf


--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "Scott Marshall" <sklmarshall@...>
wrote:
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>
> Martin Keates from Skeller and Chris Allen will be giving gurdy workshops at
the Rudry Weekend next month. It will be an excellent weekend of French, Breton
and Swedish music, singing and dancing and food:
>
> http://www.pentreffest.org.uk/EE/index.php?/Pentreffest/Rudry_Weekend/
>
> Looks good!
>

http://www.youtube.com/user/KBBZH#p/u/16/O-63EmrzzM4

http://youtu.be/O-63EmrzzM4

Thanks! Love the dancing skeletons :)


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> http://www.youtube.com/user/KBBZH#p/u/16/O-63EmrzzM4
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> http://youtu.be/O-63EmrzzM4
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Thanks for posting this link Matthew; I'm listening to your pieces as I write
this. I like the combination of 'gurdy and piano, and it's good to hear the
'gurdy in a classical-style context such as this.

I can imagine some of these arranged for a kind of 'gurdy quartet- two 'gurdies,
piano and 'cello. Ever thought of doing anything like that?

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> The Forum seems quiet at the moment, so here's the latest piano/gurdy combo
effort if you're interested.  Click the play button next to 'Honeycomb' on this
link:
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=650237
> As a gurdy piece it's a bit understated, but you might like the tune, happier
than some of my previous stuff.
> Apologies if you get this twice.
> Matt
>

I thought I'd heard all the old gurdy related jokes but this one I actually
found amusing :-)

" A hurdy-gurdy is a musical instrument played by a crank ! "

Would love to have been there, but I'm away next weekend... :-(

Andy
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A few I heard in Lancaster when I was starting to play:

What's the best sound you can get out of a hurdy-gurdy? The splash as it hits
the sea.
How long does it take to tune a hurdy-gurdy?
No one knows yet.
What is the definition of perfect pitch on a hurdy-gurdy?
Throwing it into a skip without hitting the sides.


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bagpipes:-
> #1 What's the difference between a hurdy gurdy and an onion?
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> A.     No-one cries when you chop up a hurdy gurdy.
>
> #2 A hurdy gurdy player was asked to play at a Royal concert and speeds weeks
practicing his repertoire untill it is perfect. He then gives the performance of
his life on the night and is feeling pretty pleased with himself untill the
sound engineer comes up to him and apologises profusely.
> "Why? What went wrong?" he asks.
> The engineer replies "Well I tried everything I could but I still couldn't
completely get rid of that constant drone or the annoying intermittent buzzing
sound that kept coming out of the speakers"...
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Q. What's the difference between a trampoline and a
/hurdy-gurdy/bodhran/accordion/bagpipe/banjo/insert favourite instrument
here   ?
A. You take your shoes off before you jump on a trampoline

Richard.

Definition of perfect pitch- when you throw an accordion and it lands on a
hurdy-gurdy.

I thankyew, I thankyew.

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On 10/10/2011 23:27, Martyn Robinson wrote:
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> collection...Also two other old ones which can be applied to most
> stringed instruments of your choice...
>
> Hurdy Gurdy players spend 50% of their time tuning their instruments and
> the other 50% playing out of tune..
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