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#8564 From: Neil Brook <nwbrook@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Trompette question
nwbrook@...
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If there is no pressure on the wheel, the drones will be weak . Start with no pressure and slowly deepen the slot to bring the drone harder on the wheel . Stop when you're happy !
On 23 Apr 2012, at 17:35, markmitch123 wrote:

 


Thank you both, I'll make another chien and play about with it a bit. Reducing the diameter of the tirant peg also makes a lot of sense.

But the comment about notching the chien so that the string is actually pressing on the wheel leads to another query - should I do the same thing with the other drones? at the moment the top of the bridges are flat, so that when I engage a drone the string is straight from tailpiece to nut, just touching the wheel across its width. Should the bridges be notched to hold the string in, so that it as actually pressing on the wheel, in the same way that you describe for the trompette?


Best regards

Neil Brook





#8565 From: "Mike D" <miketden@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:20 pm
Subject: Holmfirth Festival accomodation
miketdennison
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Holmfirth Folk Festival/Blowzabella: 11th - 13th May 2012
 
We still have some accommodation availability if anyone is interested. Briefly...
 
Self catering accommodation available in shared holiday house a few minutes walk from Holmfirth town centre
1 twin room + 1 double room available, cost shared equally
Cost for 8 of us: £75 per person for all 3 nights (+ £25 per person refundable damage deposit)
Sorry no smoking, no pets
Cleared cheque or BACS transfer required to secure your place.
 
Anyone interested please contact us off-group for details
 
Many thanks
Yvonne & Mike

#8566 From: "markmitch123" <mark@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: Trompette question
markmitch123
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Many thanks!

#8567 From: SKL Marshall <sklmarshall@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:28 pm
Subject: Fw: medieval/hurdy gurdy gigs 2012
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--- On Mon, 23/4/12, Steve Tyler <sj.tyler@...> wrote:

From: Steve Tyler <sj.tyler@...>
Subject: medieval/hurdy gurdy gigs 2012
To: "KATY MARCHANT" <sj.tyler@...>
Date: Monday, 23 April, 2012, 23:16


DAUGHTERS OF ELVIN
(and related bands)
01837 849030



We are currently mostly working with a lineup of four instrumentalists and playing medieval music and our own compositions:-
Katy Marchant - bagpipes, shawm, recorders, pipe and tabor
Steve Tyler - hurdy gurdy, gothic harp, cittern, percussion
Jonathan Shorland - pastoral oboes, bagpipes, flute
Sonny Davidson - percussion, saz, guitar

Gigs below are for this lineup unless otherwise stated:-

APRIL
Saturday 28th Eternal Knowledge Festival, near Thorington, Suffolk (see attachment). with percussionist/nay player Tim Garside www.eternal-knowledge.co.uk

MAY
Tuesday 1st      Dawn Chorus, Merrivale Stone Circle, Dartmoor 5.15am  http://www.tavistock-sings.co.uk/downloads.html

Saturday 5th     dance/concert at North Wootton village hall, Somerset (see attachment). 8pm. £8/£6 jwfdavidson@... 07773 468890

JUNE
Saturday 2nd    Steve Tyler and Andy Clarke at Fishguard Folk Festival, Wales. www.efestivals.co.uk/festivals/fishguardfolk/2012/ www.myspace.com/stevetylerandyclarke

Sunday 3rd       Steve Tyler and Andy Clarke at Dulverton Folk Festival, Devon. www.dulvertonfolkfestival.net

Sunday 3rd – Monday 4th    Lincoln Castle daytime event (minus Steve Tyler)

Saturday 9th      bal and concert spot at Bagpipe Society Blowout, Polesworth Abbey, nr Tamworth, Staffordshire. www.bagpipesociety.org.uk/blowout-2012/

Saturday 16th    Horsley French Dance at the village hall, Priory Fields, Horsley, Gloucestershire GL6 0PT horsleydance@...

Wednesday 20th   Steve Tyler and Andy Clarke, White Horse Folk Club, Highworth, nr Swindon. www.whitehorsefolkclub.co.uk/

Thursday 21st    Steve Tyler and Andy Clarke, Redbourn Folk Club, The Hollybush Public House, Church End, Redbourn (near St Albans) Herts AL3 7DU www.redbournfolkclub.org.uk/

Friday 22nd       Steve Tyler and Andy Clarke, Fo'c'sle Folk Club, Southampton (The Richmond Inn, 108 Portswood rd., Portswood, SO17 2FW) www.focsle.org.uk

Saturday 23rd    Jonathan Shorland and Steve Tyler play at pibcorn concert, Pontsticill, Brecon Beacons, Wales www.pibgyrn.com

Saturday 30th    Misericordia duo at Burton Upon Trent. Daytime event. The Gardening Olympics, Shobnall Leisure Complex. www.eaststaffsbc.gov.uk/Services/GreenSpaces/Pages/TheGardeningOlympics.aspx

JULY
Friday 6th          Steve Tyler joins Jackie Oates Band at Priddy Folk Festival (evening), Somerset BA5 3BB www.priddyfolk.org

Friday 13th        Steve Tyler plays as part of An English Journey Reimagined, Latitude Festival, Henham Park, Southwold, Suffolk. www.latitudefestival.co.uk http://youtu.be/R_Wn7vtLA00

Sunday 22nd     Festival at the Edge, Stokes Barn, Much Wenlock, Shropshire. www.festivalattheedge.org info@...

AUGUST
Monday 6th       Steve Tyler joins Jackie Oates Band at Sidmouth Folk Festival, Devon. www.sidmouthfolkweek.co.uk

Saturday 11th    medieval event at St.Anne's Chapel, Barnstaple, Devon

Saturday 25th    Steve Tyler joins Jackie Oates Band at Shrewsbury Folk Festival. www.shrewsburyfolkfestival.co.uk

SEPTEMBER
Sunday 16th       Aylesbury Tudor Fayre. Daytime event.

OCTOBER
Thursday 4th – Sunday 7th     LEAF Festival, Mulheim an der Ruhr, Germany


#8569 From: "eflow" <eflow92860@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:19 pm
Subject: Poll question
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Is there a "poll" function on this board?

I am very curious about what kind of music the people here play most often -
Folk, dance, medieval, Baroque, etc.

Also what kind of instrument do you prefer - guitar, lute, modern, etc.

Has anyone asked about this before? Any other facts you are interested in
learning?

A poll could be a fun way to see what our fellow HG enthusiasts, players, and
makers are up to.

#8570 From: "Scott Marshall" <sklmarshall@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: Poll question
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We used to have a poll function, I remember we had a 'do you live in East
Anglia? poll ages ago!  I dont know what happened to it


--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "eflow" <eflow92860@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a "poll" function on this board?
>
> I am very curious about what kind of music the people here play most often -
Folk, dance, medieval, Baroque, etc.
>
> Also what kind of instrument do you prefer - guitar, lute, modern, etc.
>
> Has anyone asked about this before? Any other facts you are interested in
learning?
>
> A poll could be a fun way to see what our fellow HG enthusiasts, players, and
makers are up to.
>

#8571 From: "Rafael" <duke_elington@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: Poll question
duke_elington
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I used to play spanish folk music with guitar and bandurria (a kind small modern
lute), but with the HG I like to play from Beatles to folk. I used  mainly the
HG only for my particulary fun.

Sorry for my poor English.

Rafa

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "eflow" <eflow92860@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a "poll" function on this board?
>
> I am very curious about what kind of music the people here play most often -
Folk, dance, medieval, Baroque, etc.
>
> Also what kind of instrument do you prefer - guitar, lute, modern, etc.
>
> Has anyone asked about this before? Any other facts you are interested in
learning?
>
> A poll could be a fun way to see what our fellow HG enthusiasts, players, and
makers are up to.
>

#8572 From: CWH <c.hl@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Poll question
hillneerg
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Out of curiosity, how was the bandurria tuned?
I have one but I still haven't figured out a logical tuning (there seems
to be so many ways on the Internet I got confused) so it's been in it's
box for a few years now. :)

Colin Hill

On 25/04/2012 21:51, Rafael wrote:
> I used to play spanish folk music with guitar and bandurria (a kind
> small modern lute), but with the HG I like to play from Beatles to folk.
> I used mainly the HG only for my particulary fun.
>
> Sorry for my poor English.
>
> Rafa
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@...
> <mailto:HurdyGurdyForum%40yahoogroups.co.uk>, "eflow" <eflow92860@...>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Is there a "poll" function on this board?
>  >
>  > I am very curious about what kind of music the people here play most
> often - Folk, dance, medieval, Baroque, etc.
>  >
>  > Also what kind of instrument do you prefer - guitar, lute, modern, etc.
>  >
>  > Has anyone asked about this before? Any other facts you are
> interested in learning?
>  >
>  > A poll could be a fun way to see what our fellow HG enthusiasts,
> players, and makers are up to.
>  >
>
>



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#8573 From: Rafael García <duke_elington@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Poll question
duke_elington
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The tunning of the Bandurria is the same als the modern spanish Lute, but the bandurria is an 8. up:

1 - A
2 - E
3 - B
4 - F#
5 - C#
6 - G#

Now you can go running to play it ;-)
Regards

Rafa

De: CWH <c.hl@...>
Para: HurdyGurdyForum@...
Enviado: Jueves 26 de abril de 2012 1:17
Asunto: Re: [HurdyGurdyForum] Re: Poll question

Out of curiosity, how was the bandurria tuned?
I have one but I still haven't figured out a logical tuning (there seems
to be so many ways on the Internet I got confused) so it's been in it's
box for a few years now. :)

Colin Hill

On 25/04/2012 21:51, Rafael wrote:
> I used to play spanish folk music with guitar and bandurria (a kind
> small modern lute), but with the HG I like to play from Beatles to folk.
> I used mainly the HG only for my particulary fun.
>
> Sorry for my poor English.
>
> Rafa
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@...
> <mailto:HurdyGurdyForum%40yahoogroups.co.uk>, "eflow" <eflow92860@...>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Is there a "poll" function on this board?
>  >
>  > I am very curious about what kind of music the people here play most
> often - Folk, dance, medieval, Baroque, etc.
>  >
>  > Also what kind of instrument do you prefer - guitar, lute, modern, etc.
>  >
>  > Has anyone asked about this before? Any other facts you are
> interested in learning?
>  >
>  > A poll could be a fun way to see what our fellow HG enthusiasts,
> players, and makers are up to.
>  >
>
>



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#8574 From: CWH <c.hl@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Poll question
hillneerg
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Many thanks. I bought this many years ago but could never figure out
which way to tune it. I'll have a try now. There were so many
alternative tunings if was confusing. As it was made in Spain this
should be the right tuning now.

Colin Hill

On 26/04/2012 13:43, Rafael García wrote:
> The tunning of the Bandurria is the same als the modern spanish Lute,
> but the bandurria is an 8. up:
>
> 1 - A
> 2 - E
> 3 - B
> 4 - F#
> 5 - C#
> 6 - G#
>
> Now you can go running to play it ;-)
> Regards
>
> Rafa
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De:* CWH <c.hl@...>
> *Para:* HurdyGurdyForum@...
> *Enviado:* Jueves 26 de abril de 2012 1:17
> *Asunto:* Re: [HurdyGurdyForum] Re: Poll question
>
> Out of curiosity, how was the bandurria tuned?
> I have one but I still haven't figured out a logical tuning (there seems
> to be so many ways on the Internet I got confused) so it's been in it's
> box for a few years now. :)
>
> Colin Hill
>
> On 25/04/2012 21:51, Rafael wrote:
>  > I used to play spanish folk music with guitar and bandurria (a kind
>  > small modern lute), but with the HG I like to play from Beatles to folk.
>  > I used mainly the HG only for my particulary fun.
>  >
>  > Sorry for my poor English.
>  >
>  > Rafa
>  >
>  > --- In HurdyGurdyForum@...
> <mailto:HurdyGurdyForum@...>
>  > <mailto:HurdyGurdyForum%40yahoogroups.co.uk>, "eflow" <eflow92860@...>
>  > wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Is there a "poll" function on this board?
>  > >
>  > > I am very curious about what kind of music the people here play most
>  > often - Folk, dance, medieval, Baroque, etc.
>  > >
>  > > Also what kind of instrument do you prefer - guitar, lute, modern, etc.
>  > >
>  > > Has anyone asked about this before? Any other facts you are
>  > interested in learning?
>  > >
>  > > A poll could be a fun way to see what our fellow HG enthusiasts,
>  > players, and makers are up to.
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
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#8575 From: Anita Hales <harpist_2002@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Poll question
harpist_2002
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I play harp and guitar.  Sometimes Irish bouzouki or mandolin. I most often play medieval and renaissance but spend a lot of time playing Celtic music. I play with two groups, Tears of Fancy (medieval and renaissance) and Paddy's Leather Breeches (Celtic).  March is usually Celtic month. Tears of Fancy always plays for a midwinter medeival/renaissance banquet that is held here.
I don't yet have a hurdy-gurdy but it's high on my list of next instruments to get.
 

*******************************************
Anita Hales, KFMJ Radio News


#8576 From: Martyn Robinson <martyn.robinson@...>
Date: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: Poll question
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Tricky question as I have some instruments I used to play quite a bit, but don’t very often these days. I guess in order of most frequently played:-

Ukulele (including a larger lute copy version) – slight preference for these  over the others as they are small, quiet, and highly transportable!)

Hurdy Gurdy

Banjo and banjolini

Jawharps, mouth- bows

Concertina (English)

Various drums, ratchets, and other noise makers.

 


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#8578 From: Mark Powell <markpowell09@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:14 am
Subject: Spam email from my Yahoo account
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Hi Scott.

You may have received a spam email offering "employment opportunities" from my Yahoo address as someone has hacked into my account and sent it to everyone in my address book. I don't have to tell you that it's not for publication on the forum, and please don't open it if you receive another as it will probably forward itself to all your contacts. Sorry about this- people who send this cr*p really p*ss me off (and that's putting it politely!)

All the best,

Mark.



#8579 From: Richard York <richard@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:52 am
Subject: Re:
goddescale
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Colin, has your email been hacked?

On 27/04/2012 06:28, COLIN HILL wrote:


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#8580 From: "Scott Marshall" <sklmarshall@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:30 am
Subject: spam
sklmarshall
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I think there have been about 5 spam emails sent to the list this week, the sort
where the email account has been hacked. The group has a spam filter and that
got most of them, but sorry about the couple that got through. These emails are
pretty obviously not about HG's don't open them or any links from them.
ATB Scott

ps Yes Mark I did delete the ones that came from your account

#8581 From: peter heinlein <heinpe66@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:03 pm
Subject: Spam/hack
heinpe
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Been happening a lot in the past few weeks.  At least three people I know here in the USA have had their e-mail lists spammed, plus two Yahoo groups.  Fortunately just garbage, no malicious payloads.
 
PeteH

#8582 From: CWH <c.hl@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:27 pm
Subject: Re:
hillneerg
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No, not from my account or PC. Spoofed address.
Probably my email is in someone's address book which has been hacked.
Not much one can do.

Colin


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#8583 From: "eflow" <eflow92860@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: Poll question
ericfloen
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Sorry I wasn't very clear. I was looking for Hurdy Gurdy related info. So I
should have said - Lute-back or Guitar-back styled gurdies, etc. And what kind
of music do you play on said gurdy. I wanted to know what type of HG people here
played, not other instruments. Sorry if I took people off track, my bad!

-E

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> Tricky question as I have some instruments I used to play quite a bit, but
don't very often these days. I guess in order of most frequently played:-
> Ukulele (including a larger lute copy version) - slight preference for these 
over the others as they are small, quiet, and highly transportable!)
> Hurdy Gurdy
> Banjo and banjolini
> Jawharps, mouth- bows
> Concertina (English)
> Various drums, ratchets, and other noise makers.
>
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#8584 From: Mark Powell <markpowell09@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: spam
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Thanks Scott. I wonder- has anyone anywhere in the universe ever responded to or bought anything in response to a spam message like this one? Does anyone ever even bother to read them? Why don't the admittedly clever people who write the programs that spreads this tripe do something useful with their time like designing software to predict stock market movements? Rant over.X( angry

#8585 From: CWH <c.hl@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: Re: spam
hillneerg
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Clicking on a link in a Spam message will generate cash for the Spammer
as a referral to the site. It's only a tiny amount but, if enough people
click, it can make a decent income for the Spammer.
Quite different for the malicious stuff which downloads a virus which is
just vicious with no reward other than pi**ing off a lot of people.
I think you would be surprised at the number of people who do follow the
links and even buy the products (sometimes the products are genuine -
spammers get more money if people do actually buy from the site so most
spam links are to real sites although generally NOT well known ones who
don't want to be linked to this sort of stuff).
I once read a brilliant article about someone who turned the tables on
the typical "Nigerian General" stuff and got them to pay out a lot of
money to film the Dead Parrot sketch and submit the video.
Read it, it's very satisfying
http://boingboing.net/2007/02/20/419-scammers-tricked.html for final video
Story here
http://419eater.com/html/bigman.htm
If you hate spammers, you'll love this story - I roared laughing at it.


Colin Hill


On 27/04/2012 18:03, Mark Powell wrote:
> Thanks Scott. I wonder- has anyone anywhere in the universe ever
> responded to or bought anything in response to a spam message like this
> one? Does anyone ever even bother to read them? Why don't the admittedly
> clever people who write the programs that spreads this tripe do
> something useful with their time like designing software to predict
> stock market movements? Rant over.X( angry
>



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#8586 From: "Mike D" <miketden@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: spam
miketdennison
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Colin - Thanks for the link, a good read, very funny and it is very good to
hear of the tables being turned for a change. It should happen to all of the
spammers.
Though before I followed your link I paused to wonder if you had arranged to
get a referral fee ;-)
Mike

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> Clicking on a link in a Spam message will generate cash for the Spammer
> as a referral to the site. It's only a tiny amount but, if enough people
> click, it can make a decent income for the Spammer.
> Quite different for the malicious stuff which downloads a virus which is
> just vicious with no reward other than pi**ing off a lot of people.
> I think you would be surprised at the number of people who do follow the
> links and even buy the products (sometimes the products are genuine -
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> don't want to be linked to this sort of stuff).
> I once read a brilliant article about someone who turned the tables on
> the typical "Nigerian General" stuff and got them to pay out a lot of
> money to film the Dead Parrot sketch and submit the video.
> Read it, it's very satisfying
> http://boingboing.net/2007/02/20/419-scammers-tricked.html for final video
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#8587 From: robert loechler <robertloechler@...>
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:32 am
Subject: Re: Re: Poll question
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hi E...My F/Bflat and lower pitched C/F gurdies are both guitar back types made here in the US by Mel Dorries of hurdygurdycrafters.com.Whereas I adore the tone of the lute back style models,a couple of major details have kept me from getting one.First is the big bucks $$$$$$ involved,especially since it would have to be imported from Europe as well. Second is that according to a friend here in the US who has one the lute back is somewhat awkward to balance on one's lap while playing...So far as music goes,I play Renaissance and Celtic mainly.One cool twist to busking with my little F/Bflat gurdy is that I double it with a couple different keyed harmonicas.A rather nice blending combo(when all is tuned properly)...Robert

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From: eflow <eflow92860@...>
Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Re: Poll question
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Date: Friday, April 27, 2012, 5:26 PM

Sorry I wasn't very clear. I was looking for Hurdy Gurdy related info. So I should have said - Lute-back or Guitar-back styled gurdies, etc. And what kind of music do you play on said gurdy. I wanted to know what type of HG people here played, not other instruments. Sorry if I took people off track, my bad!

-E

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> Ukulele (including a larger lute copy version) - slight preference for these  over the others as they are small, quiet, and highly transportable!)
> Hurdy Gurdy
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#8588 From: Nick Groom <emailnickgroom@...>
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:43 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2006
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Apologies for the spam message sent to the list from my address (and while I was away from email in Ireland). It should be fixed now
Best
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1.
Spam/hack From: peter heinlein
2.1.
Re: From: CWH
3.1.
Re: Poll question From: eflow
4.1.
Re: spam From: Mark Powell
4.2.
Re: spam From: CWH

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1.

Spam/hack

Posted by: "peter heinlein" heinpe66@...   heinpe

Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:03 pm



Been happening a lot in the past few weeks. At least three people I know
here in the USA have had their e-mail lists spammed, plus two Yahoo
groups. Fortunately just garbage, no malicious payloads.

PeteH
2.1.

Re:

Posted by: "CWH" c.hl@...   hillneerg

Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:27 pm



No, not from my account or PC. Spoofed address.
Probably my email is in someone's address book which has been hacked.
Not much one can do.

Colin

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3.1.

Re: Poll question

Posted by: "eflow" eflow92860@...   ericfloen

Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:01 am



Sorry I wasn't very clear. I was looking for Hurdy Gurdy related info. So I should have said - Lute-back or Guitar-back styled gurdies, etc. And what kind of music do you play on said gurdy. I wanted to know what type of HG people here played, not other instruments. Sorry if I took people off track, my bad!

-E

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> Tricky question as I have some instruments I used to play quite a bit, but don't very often these days. I guess in order of most frequently played:-
> Ukulele (including a larger lute copy version) - slight preference for these over the others as they are small, quiet, and highly transportable! )
> Hurdy Gurdy
> Banjo and banjolini
> Jawharps, mouth- bows
> Concertina (English)
> Various drums, ratchets, and other noise makers.
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Re: spam

Posted by: "Mark Powell" markpowell09@...   markpowell09

Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:58 pm



Thanks Scott. I wonder- has anyone anywhere in the universe ever responded to or bought anything in response to a spam message like this one? Does anyone ever even bother to read them? Why don't the admittedly clever people who write the programs that spreads this tripe do something useful with their time like designing software to predict stock market movements? Rant over.
4.2.

Re: spam

Posted by: "CWH" c.hl@...   hillneerg

Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:14 pm



Clicking on a link in a Spam message will generate cash for the Spammer
as a referral to the site. It's only a tiny amount but, if enough people
click, it can make a decent income for the Spammer.
Quite different for the malicious stuff which downloads a virus which is
just vicious with no reward other than pi**ing off a lot of people.
I think you would be surprised at the number of people who do follow the
links and even buy the products (sometimes the products are genuine -
spammers get more money if people do actually buy from the site so most
spam links are to real sites although generally NOT well known ones who
don't want to be linked to this sort of stuff).
I once read a brilliant article about someone who turned the tables on
the typical "Nigerian General" stuff and got them to pay out a lot of
money to film the Dead Parrot sketch and submit the video.
Read it, it's very satisfying
http://boingboing. net/2007/ 02/20/419- scammers- tricked.html for final video
Story here
http://419eater. com/html/ bigman.htm
If you hate spammers, you'll love this story - I roared laughing at it.

Colin Hill

On 27/04/2012 18:03, Mark Powell wrote:
> Thanks Scott. I wonder- has anyone anywhere in the universe ever
> responded to or bought anything in response to a spam message like this
> one? Does anyone ever even bother to read them? Why don't the admittedly
> clever people who write the programs that spreads this tripe do
> something useful with their time like designing software to predict
> stock market movements? Rant over.X( angry
>

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#8589 From: Martyn Robinson <martyn.robinson@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 12:56 am
Subject: Re: Poll question
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Ah – righto

I have a Neil Brook Wren in G/C

And a Balazs Nagy (Nagy Balazs in Hungary) Gambaform tenor in D/G. Both rather different from one another which means I can play a broad range of things –or at least I WILL be able to once I am fluent enough in both.

As to what I play – I play anything I like the sound of – mostly more modern tunes than old ones. Rock and roll, folk, jazz, bluegrass, country and western, reggae, eastern, tin-pan alley – I’ll have a go at them all. I’m the first to admit that not all of the tunes work out that well – but that might be more me than the instrument – and some are real surprises (Try ‘You, me and Julio down by the school yard’ – it’s a cracker on hurdy gurdy).

 

 

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#8590 From: "houplagrundle" <peterk@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 9:03 am
Subject: De-lurking
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Hello everybody.
I've been lurking on the forum for a year or so.
I went to the Blowzabella day on Saturday and met Andy and Bridget, amongst
others, and was persuaded to post something and say hello.
i really enjoyed Blowzabella day and went to the music workshop and hurdy gurdy
workshop. this time Gregory Jolivet seemed better prepared than last time I went
and did a great workshop. I didn't have a hurdy gurdy last time but have for the
last year or so been borrowing my friend Barry's who made his at the West Dean
college course. it's a decent gurdy, especially considering it's the only one
he's made.
I am in the queue for a Wren from Neil as well, I think I get to the head of the
queue about Christmas, really looking forward to that.

I play all sorts of stuff. I'm a morris dancer so play for dancing sometimes.
I could read music before but have been gradually learning to sight-transpose as
well which means I can have a bash at odd bits of classical or pop/rock music.
Telstar (tornadoes) and Ravel's bolero are two that have come out quite well and
I'll work up.

I'm hoping to go round London later today with Fowler's troop and the Deptford
Jack http://www.deptford-jack.org.uk/
though at the moment I'm full of cold and it's raining outside so that might not
be too sensible. I'll see later

Hopefully meet some of you at some festival or other

Peter

#8591 From: "peter_kanssen" <peterk@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2012 9:10 am
Subject: ...and I thought I'd changed my profile
peter_kanssen
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the houplagrundle one is fine for just lurking on groups but here's a profile
with my name in it :-0

#8592 From: "Andy Carter " <AndyCarter@...>
Date: Wed May 2, 2012 12:42 am
Subject: RE: ...and I thought I'd changed my profile
gerbilroyd...
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Hi Peter (again!)
It seems there may be a gurdy happening in September (watch this forum, ha ha)
or if you feel drawn to droniness before then, check out The Bagpipe Sociey's
Blowout near Tamworth - there's usually a gurdy workshop and this year is no
exception!

Good luck moving up the Wren queue, they're (quite rightly) a very popular
instrument!

Cheers
Andy

Sent from my Nokia phone

#8593 From: Martyn Robinson <martyn.robinson@...>
Date: Wed May 2, 2012 1:22 am
Subject: RE: ...and I thought I'd changed my profile
robinsonmartyn
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I'm guessing that's Tamworth UK rather than Tamworth Australia? (forlorn hoping
on my part)
S
M

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Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:43 AM
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Hi Peter (again!)
It seems there may be a gurdy happening in September (watch this forum, ha ha)
or if you feel drawn to droniness before then, check out The Bagpipe Sociey's
Blowout near Tamworth - there's usually a gurdy workshop and this year is no
exception!

Good luck moving up the Wren queue, they're (quite rightly) a very popular
instrument!

Cheers
Andy

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#8594 From: "clarerosephd" <clare@...>
Date: Wed May 2, 2012 9:33 pm
Subject: Hurdy gurdy portraits in C18th
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Hi All
I just went round the exhibition of paintings by Johan Zoffany at the Royal
Academy London and was interested to see a picture of Italian peasant musicians
at a harvest festival - though I'm not convinced that the picture shows a flute
and a bagpipe as the caption claims. An even more interesting picture is in the
catalogue but not the exhibition - I've saved a copy in the photos file. It's a
portrait of Miss Anne Gore, who at 16 made a very good marriage to Lord Cowper
(though they later separated). Before the wedding in 1774 she was painted by
Zoffany in a 'fancy portrait' as a young Savoyarde woman complete with gurdy -
which she is actually playing in the picture. Apparently this type of fancy
dress was so popular that you could hire hurdy gurdies in London for dressing up
purposes. As the picture was painted in India where the Gores and Zoffany were
living at the time the instrument was probably done from memory. (Savoyards had
the 'peasant' associations of milkmaids but as they supposedly became itinerant
musicians to support their elderly parents they were also good role models).

link to webpage with picture below

Clare


http://www.bridgemanart.com/asset/316238/Zoffany-Johann-1733-1810/Miss-Anne-Gore\
-as-a-Savoyarde-1774-oil-on-canvas?search_context=%7B%22url%22%3A%22%5C%2Fsearch\
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#8595 From: "richard338293" <richardhaynes@...>
Date: Thu May 3, 2012 7:32 am
Subject: Re: Hurdy gurdy portraits in C18th
richard338293
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Thank you Clare, every find is valuable.

R

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "clarerosephd" <clare@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All
> I just went round the exhibition of paintings by Johan Zoffany at the Royal
Academy London and was interested to see a picture of Italian peasant musicians
at a harvest festival - though I'm not convinced that the picture shows a flute
and a bagpipe as the caption claims. An even more interesting picture is in the
catalogue but not the exhibition - I've saved a copy in the photos file. It's a
portrait of Miss Anne Gore, who at 16 made a very good marriage to Lord Cowper
(though they later separated). Before the wedding in 1774 she was painted by
Zoffany in a 'fancy portrait' as a young Savoyarde woman complete with gurdy -
which she is actually playing in the picture. Apparently this type of fancy
dress was so popular that you could hire hurdy gurdies in London for dressing up
purposes. As the picture was painted in India where the Gores and Zoffany were
living at the time the instrument was probably done from memory. (Savoyards had
the 'peasant' associations of milkmaids but as they supposedly became itinerant
musicians to support their elderly parents they were also good role models).
>
> link to webpage with picture below
>
> Clare
>
>
>
http://www.bridgemanart.com/asset/316238/Zoffany-Johann-1733-1810/Miss-Anne-Gore\
-as-a-Savoyarde-1774-oil-on-canvas?search_context=%7B%22url%22%3A%22%5C%2Fsearch\
%5C%2Fartist%5C%2FZoffany-Johann-1733-1810%5C%2F275%22%2C%22num_results%22%3A%22\
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