Reluctantly I am offering for sale my lovely Chris Eaton hurdy gurdy to fund
another gurdy project. It's the blonde Pimpard with ebony facings. Comes with
the plush lined hard case. Photos of both to follow.
Asking price £3500.00 collected. Available now.
Please pass the word. Paddy.

 

Hi Neville,

I've just spent some time in Vienna with Matthias Loibner, who gave me a bit of a background on Schubert's song 'Der Leiermann' - Matthias told me that traditionally itinerant gurdy players would travel around in summer trying to earn a living and saving up in order to return home with their earnings in autumn/winter. The gurdy player in the song is playing on the ice without shoes - either a sign that he did not earn enough to return home or that he had gone mad - the result of both being the same......certain death by freezing and/or starving to death.

Check out his version on gurdy with Nataša Mirković-de Ro singing.   

http://youtu.be/XIDYuPFSZY8

Hopefully not all us gurdy players will end up like in Schubert's song ;)

Gurdy greetings from Vienna,

Ricarda

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From: Neville Beal <nhbeal@...>
To: hurdygurdyforum@...
Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: [HurdyGurdyForum] Traditional Gurdy stories?

 

Hi Richard,
 
Not strictly speaking a fairy or folk tale but really sad & moving - the last song in Schubert's Winterreise song cycle Der Leiermann (the Hurdy Gurdy Man) - lots of translations around of the poems by Wilhelm Muller that Schubert set to music. If you don't know this song cycle it's well worth a listen - especially Der Leiermann which somehow just hangs in the air with a really haunting effect. 
 
All best,
Neville
 

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To: HurdyGurdyForum@...
From: richard@...
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:25:25 +0100
Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Traditional Gurdy stories?

 

Please does anyone know of any traditional/fairy/folk stories (whatever you wish to call them) about gurdies?

I now have plenty about pipes, and harps, and other instruments, but other than one possible one - "The Pear Drum" also called "Iram Biram" in Alan Garner's lovely new Collected Folk Stories book, no definite gurdy sightings. Whether this is because gurdies only go back about 1000 years and the others longer may be interesting to speculate, though I rather think that's not a reason myself, as instruments and other such details have regularly been altered by tellers in different times and places.

If you can help, please either point me at the source or pass me the tale.
You may wish to contact me direct at <richard@...> rather than type the whole thing out here if you do have one; I believe attachments don't work on this list.

I'm giving a sort of "How many instruments can I cram into one evening" presentation at Carlisle's Tullie House in just over a week and including stories about the others, so it got me thinking.

With thanks for any help.
Best wishes,
Richard.

Thanks for this, Colin.
I'm always amazed how much the net comes up with!
Best wishes,
Richard

On 29/05/2012 00:44, cwhill wrote:
> The only possible I was aware of is from Norway and may, or may not,
> refer to a HG.
> http://www.sheerfolk.com.ar/category/folkinstruments/hurdygurdy/#.T8QNAcWvN1g
>
>
> Colin Hill
>
>
> On 28/05/2012 21:25, Richard York wrote:
>> Please does anyone know of any traditional/fairy/folk stories (whatever
>> you wish to call them) about gurdies?
>>
>> I now have plenty about pipes, and harps, and other instruments, but
>> other than one possible one - "The Pear Drum" also called "Iram Biram"
>> in Alan Garner's lovely new Collected Folk Stories book, no definite
>> gurdy sightings. Whether this is because gurdies only go back about 1000
>> years and the others longer may be interesting to speculate, though I
>> rather think that's not a reason myself, as instruments and other such
>> details have regularly been altered by tellers in different times and
>> places.
>>
>> If you can help, please either point me at the source or pass me the tale.
>> You may wish to contact me direct at<richard@...>  rather
>> than type the whole thing out here if you do have one; I believe
>> attachments don't work on this list.
>>
>> I'm giving a sort of "How many instruments can I cram into one evening"
>> presentation at Carlisle's Tullie House in just over a week and
>> including stories about the others, so it got me thinking.
>>
>> With thanks for any help.
>> Best wishes,
>> Richard.
>>
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This interests me because it has always felt to me as though this song was a
presentiment of certain death.

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., Wayward Entertainment <wayward@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Neville,
> I've just spent some time in Vienna with Matthias Loibner, who gave me a bit
of a background on Schubert's song 'Der Leiermann' - Matthias told me that
traditionally itinerant gurdy players would travel around in summer trying to
earn a living and saving up in order to return home with their earnings in
autumn/winter. The gurdy player in the song is playing on the ice without shoes
- either a sign that he did not earn enough to return home or that he had gone
mad - the result of both being the same.....certain death by freezing and/or
starving to death.
>
> Check out his version on gurdy with Nataša Mirković-de Ro singing.   
>
>
> http://youtu.be/XIDYuPFSZY8
>
> Hopefully not all us gurdy players will end up like in Schubert's song ;)
>
> Gurdy greetings from Vienna,
>
> Ricarda
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Neville Beal <nhbeal@...>
> To: hurdygurdyforum@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 9:40 AM
> Subject: RE: [HurdyGurdyForum] Traditional Gurdy stories?
>
>
>  
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Not strictly speaking a fairy or folk tale but really sad & moving - the last
song in Schubert's Winterreise song cycle Der Leiermann (the Hurdy Gurdy Man) -
lots of translations around of the poems by Wilhelm Muller that Schubert set to
music. If you don't know this song cycle it's well worth a listen - especially
Der Leiermann which somehow just hangs in the air with a really haunting
effect. 
>  
> All best,
> Neville
>  
>
>
> ________________________________
>  To: HurdyGurdyForum@...
> From: richard@...
> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:25:25 +0100
> Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Traditional Gurdy stories?
>
>  
> Please does anyone know of any traditional/fairy/folk stories (whatever you
wish to call them) about gurdies?
>
> I now have plenty about pipes, and harps, and other instruments, but other
than one possible one - "The Pear Drum" also called "Iram Biram" in Alan
Garner's lovely new Collected Folk Stories book, no definite gurdy sightings.
Whether this is because gurdies only go back about 1000 years and the others
longer may be interesting to speculate, though I rather think that's not a
reason myself, as instruments and other such details have regularly been altered
by tellers in different times and places.
>
> If you can help, please either point me at the source or pass me the tale.
> You may wish to contact me direct at <richard@...> rather than type the whole
thing out here if you do have one; I believe attachments don't work on this
list.
>
> I'm giving a sort of "How many instruments can I cram into one evening"
presentation at Carlisle's Tullie House in just over a week and including
stories about the others, so it got me thinking.
>
> With thanks for any help.
> Best wishes,
> Richard.
>

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Does anyone have an English translation of the words? Just curious as it’s not a song I’ve heard/known about before.

S

m
 

There is an English version of this recorded by Harry Plunket-Green in 1934 with superb clear diction. However, not being a German speaker, I can’t vouch for the accuracy of translation.

Enzo

Does anyone have an English translation of the words? Just curious as it’s not a song I’ve heard/known about before.

S

m
 

 

This video is amazing... Such a clear diction, such a wonderful translation!

I wonder if we could make a version for HG of this tune. It sounds quite like something that a blind beggar would be playing, with a phrase or two on the gurdy, followed by a line of song, alternating always like that. It does sound a lot like a "cantiga de cego" (blind beggar song) you'd hear back then.

Would this fit a G/C gurdy?

This is recently on ebay . The seller implies it is built by  	 Ludovicus
Guersan in 1761.

I have it on good authority that it is certainly 19th c probably by Pimpard who
did it a lot.

This doesn't make it a bad buy , just not as expensive as is implied.

Hurdy Gurdy Method by Doreen Muskett and Neil brooks DVD for sale on ebay

Hello,
Is there anyone in my area (Sussex, UK) who can help with setting up my new
Gurdy? It needs a new string, and  (of course!) tuning.....
Sian

Hi Phil,
Thanks for replying.

I have been to a few Les Batons dance sessions but not for ages- 2 or 3 years I
think. Thanks for reminding me. Sundays can be tricky but I will see if we can
make it over one month. I love a good bouree. We usually bring the whole family.

Don't know who made our Gurdy, don't know how old it is but not very. It looks
beautiful and was tuned to c/g I think. Far from helpful, I know!

The drone strings were too loud and tended to dominate the overall sound.

We have re-attached the broken string (it's a bit shorter now!) but we are not
confident to start tuning after breaking string last time we tried. Not sure how
much cotton wool to put on, where does rosin go, etc.
Will try to get to les batons soon, but probably not June 17th.
Sian


--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., JULIE BARKER <drohne@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Sian
> If you are within traveling distance of Kent [M20 Maidstone] it could be worth
your while checking-out Les Batons French dancing. It meets once a month and
there are generally gurdy players there. The next one is Sunday 17th June. If I
am there I would be happy to help; however, a bit of pre-information about the
gurdy could be useful; eg; what is it tuned to? how old is it? and who made it?
The questions might seem a bit odd but the answers could determine if it can ge
set up.
> Les Batons does have a website.
> Phil
>
> Philip G Martin aka Drohne
> www.drohne.co.uk
>
> --- On Tue, 5/6/12, sianhaywardis <sianhaywardis@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: sianhaywardis <sianhaywardis@...>
> Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] New to Forum (Sussex)
> To: HurdyGurdyForum@...
> Date: Tuesday, 5 June, 2012, 14:47
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hello,
> Is there anyone in my area (Sussex, UK) who can help with setting up my new
Gurdy? It needs a new string, and (of course!) tuning.....
> Sian
>

Hello everyone,

If you can make it to Lincoln on Saturday it would be good to see you...

Saturday June 16th at Lincoln Drill Hall. Free lunchtime concert 12-2pm with
retiring collection.

Enzo Puzzovio: baroque hurdy-gurdy and mandolino
Stewart McCoy: theorbo and lute.

Programme to include works by Scarlatti, Vivaldi, Chédeville and more.

Best wishes,

Enzo

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Hi Sian,

We were able to contact a very charming lady (Jasmine) in your part of the world
(we believe) and she emailed us yesterday in response to our enquiry to say that
she would try to make contact with you. Although she is a relatively new player
herself there are other Gurdy players in her family so we feel sure some expert
help will be forthcoming.

Some weeks ago Jasmine purchased a Gurdy from us via eBay which is how we came
to know her.

Hope it works out for you.

Best Wishes

Rob and Marj'

--- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., "sianhaywardis" <sianhaywardis@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Phil,
> Thanks for replying.
>
> I have been to a few Les Batons dance sessions but not for ages- 2 or 3 years
I think. Thanks for reminding me. Sundays can be tricky but I will see if we can
make it over one month. I love a good bouree. We usually bring the whole family.
>
> Don't know who made our Gurdy, don't know how old it is but not very. It looks
beautiful and was tuned to c/g I think. Far from helpful, I know!
>
> The drone strings were too loud and tended to dominate the overall sound.
>
> We have re-attached the broken string (it's a bit shorter now!) but we are not
confident to start tuning after breaking string last time we tried. Not sure how
much cotton wool to put on, where does rosin go, etc.
> Will try to get to les batons soon, but probably not June 17th.
> Sian
>
>
> --- In HurdyGurdyForum@..., JULIE BARKER <drohne@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Sian
> > If you are within traveling distance of Kent [M20 Maidstone] it could be
worth your while checking-out Les Batons French dancing. It meets once a month
and there are generally gurdy players there. The next one is Sunday 17th June.
If I am there I would be happy to help; however, a bit of pre-information about
the gurdy could be useful; eg; what is it tuned to? how old is it? and who made
it? The questions might seem a bit odd but the answers could determine if it can
ge set up.
> > Les Batons does have a website.
> > Phil
> >
> > Philip G Martin aka Drohne
> > www.drohne.co.uk
> >
> > --- On Tue, 5/6/12, sianhaywardis <sianhaywardis@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: sianhaywardis <sianhaywardis@>
> > Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] New to Forum (Sussex)
> > To: HurdyGurdyForum@...
> > Date: Tuesday, 5 June, 2012, 14:47
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > Is there anyone in my area (Sussex, UK) who can help with setting up my new
Gurdy? It needs a new string, and (of course!) tuning.....
> > Sian
> >
>

Try "Page and Plant Gurdy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiC-JYBJs8g

Snozz

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next camp in June 2013!
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For some time I've been suggesting to people who hadn't met a gurdy that as a contrast to hearing Tudor tunes on mine, they might enjoy looking at Nigel E plus Led Zepp, the clip where he's playing the Laride as a solo. It used to be that just typing "Led Zeppelin Hurdy Gurdy solo" would find it. Now I can't find it, either typing that or anything else as search terms.
This could just be my inept search technique on Youtube, or perhaps it's vanished - does anyone know how to find it, please?

Thanks,
Richard.

Roger Landes
--
Website: http://rogerlandes.com
--
Artistic Director
ZoukFest Irish Traditional Music Weekend
next camp in June 2013!
http://zoukfest.com

 

For some time I've been suggesting to people who hadn't met a gurdy that as a contrast to hearing Tudor tunes on mine, they might enjoy looking at Nigel E plus Led Zepp, the clip where he's playing the Laride as a solo. It used to be that just typing "Led Zeppelin Hurdy Gurdy solo" would find it. Now I can't find it, either typing that or anything else as search terms.
This could just be my inept search technique on Youtube, or perhaps it's vanished - does anyone know how to find it, please?

Thanks,
Richard.

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