This site is intended as an information exchange for all aspects in the study of LMS Wagons & Carriages - design - history - preservation / restoration and railway modelling. We do not draw a line under the dates 1923 to 1947, but we include pregrouping wagons that became property of the LMS in 1923 and not to forget LMS designs that were built by British railways. We also aim to cover LMS road transport as well as LMS wagons & carriages. If you are interested in railway wagons then you will be made most welcome. The List owner has a good library covering wagons & carriages designed and built by the LMS and can re used as a research'information bank

The front page image is of an early LMS D1664 van. There were 2544 vans built to this diagram between 1924 to 1926 and there is conjecture that not many of these vans were ever painted in the LMS 1936 bauxite livery. This photo is actually a reworked photo in Adobe Photoshop to show the hybrid style of a grey bodied wagon with the 1936 style of lettering.

Information made available to us from a railway enthusiast living in the 1930s and 40s said the ratio of grey LMS wagons in 1946 to bauxite LMS wagons was about 60/40 with many grey open wagons having been repaired with new unpainted planks. We have also to remember many new wagons built after 1939 had unpainted bodywork if the body was timber with only the metalwork getting painted. More info on liveries can be found in the books by Bob Essery and other members of the LMS Society. Recent discussions on this group have indeed been about wagon liveries.

If you wish to join our group please give us a summery of your wagon and/or carriage interests with your application to minimise abuse by undesirable persons.