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#1158 From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:12 pm
Subject: Fw: festive crime menu 2011
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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 6:29 PM
Subject: festive crime menu 2011

<<festive crime menu 2011>>
Dear SNTs, STTs and Safer Schools,

Please pass the attached menu on to your community contacts and print for distribution at events/activity in the coming weeks as you see fit.

Cc'd to YR community liaison, DI Johnson and CI Dickson for info.

Thanks,
Michelle

Michelle Mercer                      
Media & Communications Manager

Haringey Borough
Metropolitan Police Service

E-mail  michelle.mercer@...    

Find out about Police in Haringey at www.met.police.uk/haringey

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Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

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#1159 From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:12 pm
Subject: Fw: The MPS targets suspected perpetrators of domestic violence and hate crime in dawn raids across the Capital
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: The MPS targets suspected perpetrators of domestic violence and hate crime in dawn raids across the Capital

The MPS targets suspected perpetrators of domestic violence and hate crime in dawn raids across the Capital

Four suspected perpetrators of domestic violence and hate crime have so far been arrested by Haringey officers as part of a series of raids carried out across the capital this morning, Wednesday 7 December, under Operation Athena.

Those arrested so far by Haringey  officers include a woman arrested in Enfield on suspicion of taking a conveyance from a family member in N17,  a man arrested on suspicion of common assault when he handed himself in at Hornsey police station, a man arrested in Great Amwell Lane N8 on suspicion of common assault and a man arrested in Boyton Road N8 on suspicion of actual bodily harm. Enquiries continue concerning these allegations and officers continue to carry out warrants across the borough.

So far across London a total of 64 arrests have been made, with activity ongoing. Operation Athena sees officers executing warrants at addresses across London's 32 boroughs, proactively targeting dangerous and prolific offenders to bring those suspected of committing domestic violence and a range of hate crimes to justice.

The operation, run twice a year since 2000, aims to transfer the fear on to the offender and encourage more victims to come forward. Arrests this morning range from violence and common assault to breach of court orders.

The main thrust of today's action under Operation Athena is to combat violence against women, however it also encompasses hate and faith crime. This includes racist, homophobic, disability motivated crime and crimes against the vulnerable or elderly by members or their own family or carers.  

Today's raids coincide with the MPS Domestic Violence [DV] publicity campaign reminding Londoners that 'You make the Call, We'll make it stop. Call 999'.

The campaign, which runs until 30 December, once more draws the public's attention to the issue of DV and is a powerful call to action which aims to elevate the emergency status of DV through press and radio ads and online interactive film. 

In an innovative press ad which features in today’s Evening Standard, readers are challenged by a message which shows through wallpaper from the next page, which is a visual reflection of how the sounds of domestic abuse are experienced and overheard through next door walls.

In addition, the film, viewed from the setting of a 'neighbour’s lounge', uses emotive sound effects of a domestic violence incident taking place through the wall between a couple in the next door flat - whilst presenting viewers with a choice whether to intervene and call emergency services by hitting 999 on their keyboards.

Overall, the campaign seeks to demonstrate that bystanders can stop DV by dramatising the immediate effect of a 999 call, or if they choose not to take action, remind them of the potentially devastating consequences. Nearly one in five murders in London are accounted for by DV.

Both Operation Athena and the DV advertising campaign link in with the 16 days of international activity under International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women [held on Nov 25] to combat all forms of violence against women.

Assistant Commissioner Simon Byrne said: "These are vile crimes that target people when they are most vulnerable. Our approach is very simple - if you commit a crime and we have the evidence then we will put you before the courts.

“The campaign is about intervening if you see or hear domestic abuse by dialing 999. People should not be suffering in silence.

Deputy Mayor for Policing, Kit Malthouse said: "There is nothing more intolerable than the hideous violence carried out behind closed doors by so called 'loved ones'.

“We've prioritised combating all violence against women, and as Operation Athena today highlights, we will continue to make London a hostile environment for perpetrators of these heinous crimes. 

“Today's Operation sends a clear message to all offenders - you will be caught, you will be arrested, and you will be brought to justice. 

“Nobody should have to endure the trauma of domestic, racist or hate abuse and I urge victims to come forward and report incidents.  

“I would also encourage friends, family and neighbours to speak to police on behalf of victims if needed so we can investigate and stop these criminals in their tracks." 

Haringey Borough Commander Detective Chief Superintendent Sandra Looby said: "We are committed to intervening in violence of any form at the earliest opportunity, to protect and support victims and to bring the perpetrators to justice.

"We know that domestic violence and all types of hate crime are under-reported, and we urge people, including friends and family of those involved, to tell us what is happening so we can help them and hold the perpetrators to account for their actions.

"We have a dedicated team of experienced officers who treat victims sensitively and with respect and work closely with partner agencies to ensure victims are provided with wraparound support.

"Today's operation provides a glimpse of the ongoing work we are carrying out to tackle hate crime and protect the community in Haringey."

Last financial year [April 2010 to March 2011] there were 48,419 domestic violence offences, 8,796 racist and religious hate crime offences and 1,335 homophobic offences across London.

Last financial year [April 2010 to March 2011] in Haringey, police received reports of 1516 domestic violence offences, 119 racist and religious hate crime offences and 20 homophobic offences.

The MPS has more than 500 specialist investigators working across the 32 community safety units - one in each borough dedicated to domestic violence and hate crime- to respond to every report of abuse, while a central team of officers with specific expertise in domestic abuse matters provide advice and support to them and look at new initiatives which are then fed into policy and practice.

Effective partnerships are key to providing appropriate support and advice to victims of domestic abuse and the MPS is proud to work alongside many excellent agencies both statutory and voluntary to keeping victims and their children safe and to hold abusers accountable for their actions.

Local borough officers are involved in initiatives to encourage all our communities, including those who traditionally have been harder to reach, to report crime either to the police or through third party or non-police reporting sites.




Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

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#1160 From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:13 pm
Subject: Fw: Events you may be interested in ....
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Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 8:50 AM
Subject: Events you may be interested in ....


Dear Neighbourhood Watch coordinator

Thought you may like to know about a few events coming up which your support would be warmly welcome.

Harringay Green Lanes Winter Festival                                                                                                                                                                              This Saturday and Sunday 10-11th December

Fun for all - Ice Rink, Grotto, Vintage Cinema, Photo Booth, food and seasonal stalls … see http://www.harringayfoodfestival.com/winterfest.htm for further details.

Haringey Association of Neighbourhood Watches meeting                                                                                                                             Tuesday 13th December at 7.30pm at St Andrews Church Hall in Alexandra Park Road.        

Please find attached the agenda which has been updated to include guest speaker Bernard Lanigan from Haringey Council's Physical Disabilities & OT Services, who will be giving a short talk on current projects they have including a new Haringey initiative called Warm Homes Healthy People. This is in addition to the guest speaker from CRISIS.  I do hope you will be able to come along.


British Trust for Conservation Volunteers (BTCV) events you can get involved in (also please see the December BTCV newsletter attached) :

Tuesday 13 December, 10am-3pm
Step Construction at The Paddock
Restoring wooden steps to provide safe access to picnic area, as well as some path clearance in this peaceful natural park.

Meet: Entrance on Ferry Lane, Tottenham Hale N15

Thursday 15 December, 10am-3pm
Better Bedding at Markfield Park
Cutting meadows in the woodland and beds of the community nature garden, alongside path clearance and re-filling of ponds.

Meet: Outside Markfield Park cafe, N15.


Tuesday 20 December, 10am-3pm
Tool Workshop & Winter BBQ at Railway Fields
Bring your own tools and/or help us maintain our project tools. Then join us at 12.30pm for a festive knees-up of winter bangers, mince pies,

mulled wine and carol singing, to thank all our volunteers and partners for all their hard work this year. Please also bring some additional food to share.

Meet: At Railway Fields hut, opposite Green Lanes train station, N4

Thursday 22 December, 10am-3pm
Bramble Bashing along The Parkland Walk
Cutting back sycamore saplings, clearing entrance with some coppicing, removing Russian vine and cutting back brambles encroaching on footpath along this unique natural habitat.

Meet: Cranley Gardens entrance of Parkland Walk, N10

Tuesday 3 January 2012, 10am-3pm
Vegetation Management at Railway Fields
Burn off that festive blubber and stick to your New Year resolution, we will be removing ash and sycamore saplings and starting our 2012

activities with some general conservation in this Green Lanes gem.
Meet: At Railway Fields hut, opposite Green Lanes train station, N4


We’ll provide the tools, tea and TLC for the practical conservation sessions, but please bring your own lunch and suitable clothing/footwear for all weather conditions.

For more details, please contact BTCV on 020 8348
6005 or email <mailto:m.bury@...>m.bury@...
<<agenda meeting 13DEC11.rtf>> <<BTCV newsletter December 11.pdf>>

Best regards
Pauline

      Pauline Syddell
      Community Neighbourhood Watch Link Manager
      Haringey Borough

      ( Metphone:     776803
      ( Phone:        +44 (0)20 8721 6803
      :  E-mail:      pauline.syddell@...

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Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

Consider our environment - please do not print this email unless absolutely necessary.

NOTICE - This email and any attachments may be confidential, subject to copyright and/or legal privilege and are intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.  To avoid incurring legal liabilities, you must not distribute or copy the information in this email without the permission of the sender. MPS communication systems are monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).


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#1161 From: "julian_penfold" <julianandrita@...>
Date: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:04 pm
Subject: Carpet cleaning
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Hi all
Can anyone recommend a carpet cleaning company?
thanks in advance
Julian

#1162 From: Lisa Saper <lisasaper@...>
Date: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:28 am
Subject: RE: Carpet cleaning
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Try Gordon at Academic Cleaners, based in Epsom. I have used them for years and they always do a great job.

Lisa

 

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of julian_penfold
Sent: 12 December 2011 04:05
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: [LocalWatch] Carpet cleaning

 

 

Hi all
Can anyone recommend a carpet cleaning company?
thanks in advance
Julian


#1163 From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:41 pm
Subject: Fw: Big Green Bookshop Newsletter
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:08 AM
Subject: Big Green Bookshop Newsletter

Hello there,

   Not long now until we stop going on about Christmas, but in the meantime….

 

PLEASE HELP OUT

*As is now a Big Green Bookshop tradition, we have many many leaflets to
give out over Christmas, reminding people that we exist, and also
offering the recipient of the flyer 10% off on their next visit to the
bookshop. **
*We will be spending many late evenings and early mornings over the next week or so delivering these through peoples doors and handing them
out on the street. We'd be really grateful if you could help us out a
little here. *
*If you're able to deliver some of our leaflets to the houses around
where you live this would be brilliant. We have 10,000 to give out and
this is a vital time of the year for us. The more people who we can
persuade to visit the bookshop the more likely we'll be able to keep on
going. It's as simple as that really. *
*On a similar note, if anyone has, or knows someone who has some spare
time in the middle of the day (1-4pm or anywhere in between these times)
on the days leading up to Christmas to hand out leaflets on the High
Road near the bookshop please get in touch. It worked last year and we'd
be very happy to renumerate in money the person or persons who are
willing to do this.*
*Thanks for reading this, and thanks for your continued support. We
really do appreciate it.**


OK. This weekend saw our 2 computers meltdown. Not the best time of the year for this to be happening, but with a bit of luck the new one we bought will get us through.

 

The Christmas Card Competition winning cards have now been printed and are in the bookshop. We are selling them for ÂŁ1.20 each and they really are brilliant. Please come and see them.

 

Events happening over the next couple of weeks.

 

Wednesday December 14th. Doors Open 7.30pm

Textual Tourist. Our Monthly Poetry Night.

This is the third of our monthly poetry nights which tries to encompass all forms (or breeds) of Poetry. It's a great atmosphere and there's also a chance for you to read some of your own poetry during the open mic slot.

We haven't finalised the line up yet, but we're delighted that one of the featured poets performing on the night will be Maggie Butt.

Maggie is the author of a number of poetry collections. Recent titles include Lipstick and Petite. Her latest book is Ally Pally Prison Camp. Alexandra Palace was used as a prison of war camp during the First World War. Although the 3,000 men who were interned there were of German nationality, many of them had lived and worked in England for many years and had English wives and children. The book is a collection of Maggie's poetry, letters from the prisoners of war, photographs of life in the camp and pictures by the artist George Kenner, who was one of the prisoners.

Her prize-winning poetry is widely published in magazines and has escaped the page onto the internet, BBC Radio 4, readings, festivals, and schools.

 PLUS

 Delectable music from MISERY SQUID

 http://soundcloud.com/​miserysquid

 

AND

 There'll be more guest readings and also there's an OPEN MIC spot, where you'll have the chance to read out your poetry to a supportive and appreciative audience.

This is our last one before Christmas and we'd love it if you could find time to come and join us.

 DOORS 7.30pm, it's just ÂŁ3 entrance and you can Bring Your Own Refreshments.

 

Tuesday December 20th from 6.30pm

The Big Green Bookshop Christmas Party. Featuring The Tottenham Choir.

This year's Christmas party has added fun. Because we're going to be joined by the brilliant Tottenham Choir for a festive sing along. Not only that, but there'll be special offers on books, lots of good things to eat and drink and generally all the things you'd want at a fun fun fun yuletide bash. 

This is our way of saying thanks to all our customers who have supported us through this very difficult year.

We'd love it if you could come along.

 

Stories and songs for under 5’s are at 10.00am this Friday.

 

Look out for offers and more on our website and blog as we near Christmas. You never know what we might do (neither do we).

 

Have a great week and we really hope to see you soon,

 

Simon, Tim and Katie

Big Green Bookshop
Unit 1, Brampton Park Road,
Wood Green, London, N22 6BG
Phone: 020 8881 6767
Twitter: @biggreenbooks
www.biggreenbookshop.com

#1164 From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:32 pm
Subject: Fw: V Short Big Green Bookshop Newsletter. Carols tonight.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:38 AM
Subject: V Short Big Green Bookshop Newsletter. Carols tonight.

Hello,
 We hope you can make it tonight to our Christmas Party and carols at the bookshop. The Tottenham Choir will be here at 7pm to lead us in a great selection of Christmas favourites and there'll be plenty of food and drink too. Oh, there may also be some great offers on books too.
 It should be great fun, so please come along.
 
If you can't make it, we'll be open every day this week until at least 7pm and of course for those last minute gifts we'll be open on Christmas Eve until 6pm.  
 
If we don't have the book you're looking for we can still get most books within 24 hours, so please feel free to get in touch with any orders you have. You can call if it's easier 020 8881 6767.
 
If we don't see you before, have a great time and thanks again for all your incredible support over the last year.
 
Take care,
Simon, Tim and Katie.
Big Green Bookshop
Unit 1, Brampton Park Road,
Wood Green, London, N22 6BG
Phone: 020 8881 6767
Twitter: @biggreenbooks
www.biggreenbookshop.com

#1165 From: "Julia Fraser" <julia.fraser1@...>
Date: Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:56 am
Subject: PARKING
julia.fraser30
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Hi

 

We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ), but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get parked anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the end of the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping etc.  It seems to be CPZ by stealth.

 

I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as to  if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking campaigners in the street?

 

Grumpy

 

Julia

 

 


#1166 From: Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...>
Date: Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: PARKING
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Hi Julia,
I feel equally grumpy, having noticed the same and not been able to park anywhere in Rathcoole Gardens during the day on two occasions, with loads of shopping and a bad back. I don't use my car much, but am now avoiding it altogether. It was inevitable, wasn't it, and we will be forced into CPZ, I suppose.
One thought: was anything ever done about talking to the owners of the many vans and small lorries parked on the Rathcooles and Harvey Road?
Elena

From: Julia Fraser <julia.fraser1@...>
To: LocalWatch@...
Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 11:56
Subject: [LocalWatch] PARKING

 
Hi
 
We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ), but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get parked anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the end of the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping etc.  It seems to be CPZ by stealth.
 
I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as to  if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking campaigners in the street?
 
Grumpy
 
Julia
 
 



#1167 From: "julian_penfold" <julianandrita@...>
Date: Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: PARKING
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I think the key question is would a CPZ actually eliminate any of the cars and
vans parked in our neighbourhood, or would most or all of the owners be entitled
to permits?  I still find it hard to believe people drive to our streets and
park unless they more or less have to.  The council would like us to believe
they are going to solve this problem, but I think what we will find at the end
of the exercise is the whole of the borough covered in CPZs and the same number
of vehicles parked as before, just that we will all be poorer.

--- In LocalWatch@..., Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Julia,
> I feel equally grumpy, having noticed the same and not been able to park
anywhere in Rathcoole Gardens during the day on two occasions, with loads of
shopping and a bad back. I don't use my car much, but am now avoiding it
altogether. It was inevitable, wasn't it, and we will be forced into CPZ, I
suppose.
> One thought: was anything ever done about talking to the owners of the many
vans and small lorries parked on the Rathcooles and Harvey Road?
> Elena
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Julia Fraser <julia.fraser1@...>
> To: LocalWatch@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 11:56
> Subject: [LocalWatch] PARKING
>
>
>  
> Hi
>  
> We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in
December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ),
but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of
Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get parked
anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the end of
the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping etc.
 It seems to be CPZ by stealth.
>  
> I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as to 
if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking
campaigners in the street?
>  
> Grumpy
>  
> Julia
>  
>  
>

#1168 From: "Julia Fraser" <julia.fraser1@...>
Date: Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:15 pm
Subject: RE: Re: PARKING
julia.fraser30
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Hi Julian

 

You  are right , that is the key question.

 

People do definitely come and park here  for the train station  and it has got much worse in the last month, there were as many arrivals as departures this morning and this was not the pattern before the extension  when during the day it was always possible to park.

 

I have spoken to a few people who live in areas that now have CPZ and they mainly say it does improve the parking although almost all agree that it is particularly annoying  to be forced into this , as there were never really any parking issues in the area before the CPZ areas were established. It seems ridiculous .

 

I have emailed the council to ask how we can re-engage discussions , so assuming I get a reply I will circulate it.

 

Julia

 

 

 

 

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of julian_penfold
Sent: 03 January 2012 20:36
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

 

I think the key question is would a CPZ actually eliminate any of the cars and vans parked in our neighbourhood, or would most or all of the owners be entitled to permits? I still find it hard to believe people drive to our streets and park unless they more or less have to. The council would like us to believe they are going to solve this problem, but I think what we will find at the end of the exercise is the whole of the borough covered in CPZs and the same number of vehicles parked as before, just that we will all be poorer.

--- In LocalWatch@..., Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Julia,
> I feel equally grumpy, having noticed the same and not been able to park anywhere in Rathcoole Gardens during the day on two occasions, with loads of shopping and a bad back. I don't use my car much, but am now avoiding it altogether. It was inevitable, wasn't it, and we will be forced into CPZ, I suppose.
> One thought: was anything ever done about talking to the owners of the many vans and small lorries parked on the Rathcooles and Harvey Road?
> Elena
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Julia Fraser <julia.fraser1@...>
> To: LocalWatch@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 11:56
> Subject: [LocalWatch] PARKING
>
>
> Ă‚ 
> Hi
> Ă‚ 
> We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ), but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get parked anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the end of the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping etc. Ă‚ It seems to be CPZ by stealth.
> Ă‚ 
> I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as toĂ‚  if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking campaigners in the street?
> Ă‚ 
> Grumpy
> Ă‚ 
> Julia
> Ă‚ 
> Ă‚ 
>


#1169 From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: Re: PARKING
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

Hi Julian

You  are right , that is the key question.

People do definitely come and park here  for the train station  and it has got much worse in the last month, there were as many arrivals as departures this morning and this was not the pattern before the extension  when during the day it was always possible to park.

I have spoken to a few people who live in areas that now have CPZ and they mainly say it does improve the parking although almost all agree that it is particularly annoying  to be forced into this , as there were never really any parking issues in the area before the CPZ areas were established. It seems ridiculous .

I have emailed the council to ask how we can re-engage discussions , so assuming I get a reply I will circulate it.

Julia

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of julian_penfold
Sent: 03 January 2012 20:36
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

I think the key question is would a CPZ actually eliminate any of the cars and vans parked in our neighbourhood, or would most or all of the owners be entitled to permits? I still find it hard to believe people drive to our streets and park unless they more or less have to. The council would like us to believe they are going to solve this problem, but I think what we will find at the end of the exercise is the whole of the borough covered in CPZs and the same number of vehicles parked as before, just that we will all be poorer.

--- In LocalWatch@..., Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Julia,
> I feel equally grumpy, having noticed the same and not been able to park anywhere in Rathcoole Gardens during the day on two occasions, with loads of shopping and a bad back. I don't use my car much, but am now avoiding it altogether. It was inevitable, wasn't it, and we will be forced into CPZ, I suppose.
> One thought: was anything ever done about talking to the owners of the many vans and small lorries parked on the Rathcooles and Harvey Road?
> Elena
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Julia Fraser <julia.fraser1@...>
> To: LocalWatch@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 11:56
> Subject: [LocalWatch] PARKING
>
>
> Ă‚ 
> Hi
> Ă‚ 
> We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ), but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get parked anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the end of the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping etc. Ă‚ It seems to be CPZ by stealth.
> Ă‚ 
> I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as toĂ‚  if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking campaigners in the street?
> Ă‚ 
> Grumpy
> Ă‚ 
> Julia
> Ă‚ 
> Ă‚ 
>


#1170 From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: Re: PARKING
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i'm still against the idea - it's been hard to park round here for ages, and the cpz has only been in force for a few weeks. rushing straight to the council probably won't make a great deal of difference, as i'm sure they have their own agenda but it seems something of a knee-jerk response. i would think it takes a while for a system to settle down and many people in weston park (where i presume most of the 'new' cars have come from) may well not have registered yet- xmas etc. once it's there, there's no getting rid of it and they can hike the prices whenever they wish. take a leaf out of that film Let The Right One In - vampires have to be asked to come in...
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

Hi Julian

You  are right , that is the key question.

People do definitely come and park here  for the train station  and it has got much worse in the last month, there were as many arrivals as departures this morning and this was not the pattern before the extension  when during the day it was always possible to park.

I have spoken to a few people who live in areas that now have CPZ and they mainly say it does improve the parking although almost all agree that it is particularly annoying  to be forced into this , as there were never really any parking issues in the area before the CPZ areas were established. It seems ridiculous .

I have emailed the council to ask how we can re-engage discussions , so assuming I get a reply I will circulate it.

Julia

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of julian_penfold
Sent: 03 January 2012 20:36
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

I think the key question is would a CPZ actually eliminate any of the cars and vans parked in our neighbourhood, or would most or all of the owners be entitled to permits? I still find it hard to believe people drive to our streets and park unless they more or less have to. The council would like us to believe they are going to solve this problem, but I think what we will find at the end of the exercise is the whole of the borough covered in CPZs and the same number of vehicles parked as before, just that we will all be poorer.

--- In LocalWatch@..., Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Julia,
> I feel equally grumpy, having noticed the same and not been able to park anywhere in Rathcoole Gardens during the day on two occasions, with loads of shopping and a bad back. I don't use my car much, but am now avoiding it altogether. It was inevitable, wasn't it, and we will be forced into CPZ, I suppose.
> One thought: was anything ever done about talking to the owners of the many vans and small lorries parked on the Rathcooles and Harvey Road?
> Elena
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Julia Fraser <julia.fraser1@...>
> To: LocalWatch@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 11:56
> Subject: [LocalWatch] PARKING
>
>
> Ă‚ 
> Hi
> Ă‚ 
> We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ), but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get parked anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the end of the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping etc. Ă‚ It seems to be CPZ by stealth.
> Ă‚ 
> I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as toĂ‚  if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking campaigners in the street?
> Ă‚ 
> Grumpy
> Ă‚ 
> Julia
> Ă‚ 
> Ă‚ 
>


#1171 From: "Mills, Lucy" <Lucy.Mills@...>
Date: Wed Jan 4, 2012 7:57 am
Subject: Re: Re: PARKING
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Hi john,

Just to let you know that I already receive these emails from the original sender so no need to forward them on to me.

Cheers

Lucy

 
From: John Harding [mailto:jl.harding@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 06:44 PM
To: LocalWatch@... <LocalWatch@...>
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING
 
 



 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

Hi Julian

You  are right , that is the key question.

People do definitely come and park here  for the train station  and it has got much worse in the last month, there were as many arrivals as departures this morning and this was not the pattern before the extension  when during the day it was always possible to park.

I have spoken to a few people who live in areas that now have CPZ and they mainly say it does improve the parking although almost all agree that it is particularly annoying  to be forced into this , as there were never really any parking issues in the area before the CPZ areas were established. It seems ridiculous .

I have emailed the council to ask how we can re-engage discussions , so assuming I get a reply I will circulate it.

Julia

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of julian_penfold
Sent: 03 January 2012 20:36
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

I think the key question is would a CPZ actually eliminate any of the cars and vans parked in our neighbourhood, or would most or all of the owners be entitled to permits? I still find it hard to believe people drive to our streets and park unless they more or less have to. The council would like us to believe they are going to solve this problem, but I think what we will find at the end of the exercise is the whole of the borough covered in CPZs and the same number of vehicles parked as before, just that we will all be poorer.

--- In LocalWatch@..., Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Julia,
> I feel equally grumpy, having noticed the same and not been able to park anywhere in Rathcoole Gardens during the day on two occasions, with loads of shopping and a bad back. I don't use my car much, but am now avoiding it altogether. It was inevitable, wasn't it, and we will be forced into CPZ, I suppose.
> One thought: was anything ever done about talking to the owners of the many vans and small lorries parked on the Rathcooles and Harvey Road?
> Elena
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Julia Fraser <julia.fraser1@...>
> To: LocalWatch@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 11:56
> Subject: [LocalWatch] PARKING
>
>
> Ă‚ 
> Hi
> Ă‚ 
> We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ), but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get parked anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the end of the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping etc. Ă‚ It seems to be CPZ by stealth.
> Ă‚ 
> I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as toĂ‚  if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking campaigners in the street?
> Ă‚ 
> Grumpy
> Ă‚ 
> Julia
> Ă‚ 
> Ă‚ 
>



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Date: Wed Jan 4, 2012 8:02 am
Subject: Re: Re: PARKING
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On 4 Jan 2012, at 07:57, "Mills, Lucy" <Lucy.Mills@...> wrote:

 

Hi john,

Just to let you know that I already receive these emails from the original sender so no need to forward them on to me.

Cheers

Lucy

 

From: John Harding [mailto:jl.harding@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 06:44 PM
To: LocalWatch@... <LocalWatch@...>
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING
 
 



 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

Hi Julian

You  are right , that is the key question.

People do definitely come and park here  for the train station  and it has got much worse in the last month, there were as many arrivals as departures this morning and this was not the pattern before the extension  when during the day it was always possible to park.

I have spoken to a few people who live in areas that now have CPZ and they mainly say it does improve the parking although almost all agree that it is particularly annoying  to be forced into this , as there were never really any parking issues in the area before the CPZ areas were established. It seems ridiculous .

I have emailed the council to ask how we can re-engage discussions , so assuming I get a reply I will circulate it.

Julia

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of julian_penfold
Sent: 03 January 2012 20:36
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING

 

I think the key question is would a CPZ actually eliminate any of the cars and vans parked in our neighbourhood, or would most or all of the owners be entitled to permits? I still find it hard to believe people drive to our streets and park unless they more or less have to. The council would like us to believe they are going to solve this problem, but I think what we will find at the end of the exercise is the whole of the borough covered in CPZs and the same number of vehicles parked as before, just that we will all be poorer.

--- In LocalWatch@..., Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Julia,
> I feel equally grumpy, having noticed the same and not been able to park anywhere in Rathcoole Gardens during the day on two occasions, with loads of shopping and a bad back. I don't use my car much, but am now avoiding it altogether. It was inevitable, wasn't it, and we will be forced into CPZ, I suppose.
> One thought: was anything ever done about talking to the owners of the many vans and small lorries parked on the Rathcooles and Harvey Road?
> Elena
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Julia Fraser <julia.fraser1@...>
> To: LocalWatch@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 11:56
> Subject: [LocalWatch] PARKING
>
>
> Ă‚ 
> Hi
> Ă‚ 
> We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ), but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get parked anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the end of the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping etc. Ă‚ It seems to be CPZ by stealth.
> Ă‚ 
> I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as toĂ‚  if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking campaigners in the street?
> Ă‚ 
> Grumpy
> Ă‚ 
> Julia
> Ă‚ 
> Ă‚ 
>



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Date: Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:06 pm
Subject: Fwd: Tenant Panels
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‘Residents, including social housing tenants, want to make big positive differences to their communities – and I want to put the powers in their hands to be able to do so. Grant Shapps, Housing Minister

We will be running the following course in relation to this:

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Date: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:50 pm
Subject: Fwd: Play Streets Training Course
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#1175 From: "rozeebee89" <magentalobster@...>
Date: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:40 am
Subject: Re: PARKING
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Hi, I didn't realise anyone else was trying to get this sorted.  I've just had
an email from Vincent Valero saying that they do not have plans to have any more
consultation about the parking.  I work in Housing and we are entitled to
request consultation.  I feel that the Council is skirting around this issue. 
The other day I parked by Rokesly school as there was nowhere in Rathcoole

Rose
--- In LocalWatch@..., Jonathan Browne <jb015o2852@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I always get them twice as well!
>
> From my iPhone
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Jan 2012, at 07:57, "Mills, Lucy" <Lucy.Mills@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi john,
> >
> > Just to let you know that I already receive these emails from the original
sender so no need to forward them on to me.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Lucy
> >
> > From: John Harding [mailto:jl.harding@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 06:44 PM
> > To: LocalWatch@... <LocalWatch@...>
> > Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Julia Fraser
> > To: LocalWatch@...
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING
> >
> >
> > Hi Julian
> >
> >
> > You  are right , that is the key question.
> >
> >
> > People do definitely come and park here  for the train station  and it has
got much worse in the last month, there were as many arrivals as departures this
morning and this was not the pattern before the extension  when during the day
it was always possible to park.
> >
> >
> > I have spoken to a few people who live in areas that now have CPZ and they
mainly say it does improve the parking although almost all agree that it is
particularly annoying  to be forced into this , as there were never really any
parking issues in the area before the CPZ areas were established. It seems
ridiculous .
> >
> >
> > I have emailed the council to ask how we can re-engage discussions , so
assuming I get a reply I will circulate it.
> >
> >
> > Julia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On
Behalf Of julian_penfold
> > Sent: 03 January 2012 20:36
> > To: LocalWatch@...
> > Subject: [LocalWatch] Re: PARKING
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the key question is would a CPZ actually eliminate any of the cars
and vans parked in our neighbourhood, or would most or all of the owners be
entitled to permits? I still find it hard to believe people drive to our streets
and park unless they more or less have to. The council would like us to believe
they are going to solve this problem, but I think what we will find at the end
of the exercise is the whole of the borough covered in CPZs and the same number
of vehicles parked as before, just that we will all be poorer.
> >
> > --- In LocalWatch@..., Elena Soto <elenadesoto@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Julia,
> > > I feel equally grumpy, having noticed the same and not been able to park
anywhere in Rathcoole Gardens during the day on two occasions, with loads of
shopping and a bad back. I don't use my car much, but am now avoiding it
altogether. It was inevitable, wasn't it, and we will be forced into CPZ, I
suppose.
> > > One thought: was anything ever done about talking to the owners of the
many vans and small lorries parked on the Rathcooles and Harvey Road?
> > > Elena
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Julia Fraser <julia.fraser1@>
> > > To: LocalWatch@...
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 11:56
> > > Subject: [LocalWatch] PARKING
> > >
> > >
> > > Ă‚
> > > Hi
> > > Ă‚
> > > We have always opposed CPZ, however, the parking since the extension in
December has been terrible ( it got a bit better over the Christmas holidays ),
but last night we had to park in Harvey ( we live at the other side of
Rathcoole) and this morning I went out for a few hours and couldn’t get
parked anywhere near the house at 1130 in the morning. I guess this is not the
end of the world , but it is not ideal when you are carrying kids and shopping
etc. Ă‚ It seems to be CPZ by stealth.
> > > Ă‚
> > > I was interested in what other residents thought and any suggestions as
to  if / how to approach this, as I know there are lots of experienced parking
campaigners in the street?
> > > Ă‚
> > > Grumpy
> > > Ă‚
> > > Julia
> > > Ă‚
> > > Ă‚
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cengage Learning â€" delivering results through engagement.
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#1176 From: "Julia Fraser" <julia.fraser1@...>
Date: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:59 pm
Subject: FW: LBH/0316212 CPZ Crouch End Rathcoole Gardens
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Hi Rose

 

See below the email I got from Vincent in January– I contacted him and asked to attend the Feb focus group , but have not heard anything since and admittedly I have not chased this up.

 

I will don in light of your email and maybe you can do the same ?

 

Julia

 

 

 

From: Valerio Vincent [mailto:Vincent.Valerio@...]
Sent: 12 January 2012 13:13
To: 'julia.fraser1@...'
Cc: Nerbas-Maurice Miranda; Forde John; Roberts-Wray Chris
Subject: RE: LBH/0316212 CPZ Crouch End Rathcoole Gardens

 

Dear Ms Fraser,

 

RE: LBH/0316212 CPZ Crouch End Rathcoole Gardens

 

Thank you for your email of 3 January regarding parking in your area.

 

I sympathise with any parking problems you are experiencing. We understand that levels of displacement parking can be experienced in roads on the periphery of a CPZ and this is why before proceeding with the statutory process to introduce parking controls we meet with ward councillors to determine the extents of where we would consider introducing parking controls and discuss any general parking pressures being experienced in the area.

 

In addition to agreeing the extension area and method of consultation/notification with ward councillors, we also agreed to inform residents not within the CPZ of our intentions and on this basis we distributed ‘information letters’ to residents in surrounding roads requesting they contact us with their views on parking. We also invited residents to participate in a community focus group that we hope to hold in February to discuss any parking pressures being experienced. Please contact me should you wish to attend and I will contact you in due course with the relevant information.

 

Please be assured we certainly do not wish for residents to experience parking pressures and in convening a community focus group we are seeking to discuss how we can address parking pressures in your area with the input from the local community.

 

Please contact me should you require any further information.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Vincent Valerio

Project Engineer

Traffic Management- Single Frontline

London Borough of Haringey

2nd floor North, River Park House

 

Vincent.valerio@...

020-8489-1325

 

 


From: Forde John
Sent: 11 January 2012 12:32
To: 'julia.fraser1@...'
Subject: FW: LBH/0316212 CPZ Crouch End Rathcoole Gardens

 

Dear Ms Fraser,

 

Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding the process for consultation on a new CPZ.

 

This has been allocated the reference number LBH/0316212 and referred to an officer to investigate and respond to you by the 25th January 2012.

 

Yours sincerely

 

John Forde

Technical Support Officer

Haringey Council 

Place & Sustainability Directorate

Single Frontline Services

Unit 271 Lee Valley Techno Park

Ashley Road Tottenham London N17 9LN

0208 489 1901 (phone), 0208 489 5133 (fax)

 



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Enquiry reference number: HC-134386
Date and time submitted: 03/01/2012, 20:21

Subject of enquiry: CPZ - CROUCH END
Details of enquiry: Dear Sir/ Madam

Our street Rathcoole Gardens is outwith the current CPZ and while we were all opposed to the CPZ at the last consultation , since the extension was launched in December, it has become almost impossible to park. A number of residents in the street are now wondering how we can initiate another consultation with the council as the current situation makes it hard to see how we can avoid CPZ if we ever want to park close to home again.

Please can you advise how we engage with the council on this matter formally again ?
Thanks

Contact Name: Julia Fraser
Telephone Number: 07710 837839
Email Address: julia.fraser1@...
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#1177 From: magentalobster@...
Date: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:19 pm
Subject: Fwd: CPZ CROUCH END AND STROUD GREEN
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Hi Julia. This is the email I got today.  He wants me to contact him in May!!



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From: Valerio Vincent <Vincent.Valerio@...>
Date: 26 March 2012 11:37:55 GMT+01:00
To: "'magentalobster@...'" <magentalobster@...>
Cc: Frontline <Frontline@...>
Subject: RE: CPZ CROUCH END AND STROUD GREEN

Dear Ms La Touche,

 

RE: CPZ CROUCH END AND STROUD GREEN

 

Thank you for your email on this matter. Sorry for the delay in responding to you.

 

As we are approaching the end of our 2011/12 works programme, resources are prioritised to complete committed works within this programme.  We are therefore not in a position to convene focus group meetings until the works programme for 2012/13 is agreed. The discussion in these focus groups will help determine the approach undertaken to address any reported parking problems, but please note at this point in time it has not been agreed to undertake any further consultation in roads on the edge of the Crouch End A/Stroud Green CPZ.

 

Please feel free to contact me directly in May and I will provide a further update on progress made in regard to this matter.  

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Vincent Valerio

Project Engineer

Traffic Management- Single Frontline

London Borough of Haringey

2nd floor North, River Park House

 

Vincent.valerio@...

020-8489-1325


From: magentalobster@... [mailto:magentalobster@...]
Sent: 01 March 2012 09:34
To: Valerio Vincent
Subject: Re: CPZ CROUCH END AND STROUD GREEN

 

Hi. I haven't heard any more about these meetings. Please could I have an update. 

 

Thanks


On 29 Dec 2011, at 12:44, Valerio Vincent <Vincent.Valerio@...> wrote:

Dear Ms La Touche,

 

RE: CPZ CROUCH END AND STROUD GREEN

 

Thank you for your email of 15 November outlining your interest in participating in a community focus group.

 

I would be grateful if you could confirm which road you reside.

 

I will contact you soon with further details.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Vincent Valerio

Project Engineer

Traffic Management- Single Frontline

London Borough of Haringey

2nd floor North, River Park House

 

Vincent.valerio@...

020-8489-1325

 


From: Rose La Touche [mailto:magentalobster@...]
Sent: 15 November 2011 19:10
To: Frontline Consultation
Subject: CPZ CROUCH END AND STROUD GREEN

 

I am emailing because I am interested in joining a community focus group the discuss the intending parking restrictions.

 

I had emailed previously but did not receive a response.

 

Rose La Touche


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#1178 From: "Julia Fraser" <julia.fraser1@...>
Date: Thu May 3, 2012 6:36 pm
Subject: FW: Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas
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Hi

 

See below FYI.

 

I have replied and said I will go so happy to report back. I have my own opinion , but if anyone would like to share theirs I will gladly pass these on also – or you can contact Vincent and attend yourself?

 

Julia

 

From: Valerio Vincent [mailto:Vincent.Valerio@...]
Sent: 03 May 2012 12:46
Cc: Cllr Canver Nilgun; Cllr Jenks Jim; Cllr Engert Gail; Cllr Bloch Jonathan; Cllr Gorrie Robert; Cllr Reid Errol; Cllr Whyte Monica; Roberts-Wray Chris; Weston Gary; Redfearn Tom
Subject: Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas
Importance: High

 

Dear sir/madam,

 

Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas  

 

I am contacting you as you have previously expressed interest in attending a resident focus group meeting to discuss parking in your area. You may have done this by: responding to an information letter relating to parking in July or November of last year, making contact via your ward councillors or contacting us directly.

 

A community focus group meeting to take place has been arranged as follows:

 

Date and time:          Monday 28 May 7-9pm

Location:                 St Mary’s Infants hall, Church Lane, N8 7BU        

 

The purpose of this focus group meeting is to discuss any parking pressures the community are experiencing and potential ways to address residents’ parking concerns.

 

The meeting will be attended by officers within Traffic Management, ward councillors, residents from roads within the Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas and the Cabinet Member for Neighbourhoods, Councillor Canver.  Agendas will be sent out closer to the meeting time. Please note this meeting is invite only to ensure it is manageable and productive for all those who attend.   

 

I would be grateful if you confirm if you can attend as soon as possible.  

 

Please contact me should you require any more information on this matter.    

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Vincent Valerio

Project Engineer

Traffic Management- Single Frontline

London Borough of Haringey

2nd floor North, River Park House

 

Vincent.valerio@...

020-8489-1325

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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#1179 From: magentalobster@...
Date: Thu May 3, 2012 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: FW: Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas
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Hi. I've also been invited and am attending so perhaps we should get as many people to request to attend to get our collective voices heard?



On 3 May 2012, at 19:36, "Julia Fraser" <julia.fraser1@...> wrote:

 

Hi

 

See below FYI.

 

I have replied and said I will go so happy to report back. I have my own opinion , but if anyone would like to share theirs I will gladly pass these on also – or you can contact Vincent and attend yourself?

 

Julia

 

From: Valerio Vincent [mailto:Vincent.Valerio@...]
Sent: 03 May 2012 12:46
Cc: Cllr Canver Nilgun; Cllr Jenks Jim; Cllr Engert Gail; Cllr Bloch Jonathan; Cllr Gorrie Robert; Cllr Reid Errol; Cllr Whyte Monica; Roberts-Wray Chris; Weston Gary; Redfearn Tom
Subject: Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas
Importance: High

 

Dear sir/madam,

 

Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas  

 

I am contacting you as you have previously expressed interest in attending a resident focus group meeting to discuss parking in your area. You may have done this by: responding to an information letter relating to parking in July or November of last year, making contact via your ward councillors or contacting us directly.

 

A community focus group meeting to take place has been arranged as follows:

 

Date and time:          Monday 28 May 7-9pm

Location:                 St Mary’s Infants hall, Church Lane, N8 7BU        

 

The purpose of this focus group meeting is to discuss any parking pressures the community are experiencing and potential ways to address residents’ parking concerns.

 

The meeting will be attended by officers within Traffic Management, ward councillors, residents from roads within the Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas and the Cabinet Member for Neighbourhoods, Councillor Canver.  Agendas will be sent out closer to the meeting time. Please note this meeting is invite only to ensure it is manageable and productive for all those who attend.   

 

I would be grateful if you confirm if you can attend as soon as possible.  

 

Please contact me should you require any more information on this matter.    

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Vincent Valerio

Project Engineer

Traffic Management- Single Frontline

London Borough of Haringey

2nd floor North, River Park House

 

Vincent.valerio@...

020-8489-1325

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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#1180 From: Julia Henderson <julia.fraser1@...>
Date: Thu May 3, 2012 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: FW: Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas
julia.fraser30
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Agree , I think all people need to do is email Vincent below ...

Sent from my iPad

On 3 May 2012, at 20:00, magentalobster@... wrote:

 

Hi. I've also been invited and am attending so perhaps we should get as many people to request to attend to get our collective voices heard?



On 3 May 2012, at 19:36, "Julia Fraser" <julia.fraser1@...> wrote:

 

Hi

 

See below FYI.

 

I have replied and said I will go so happy to report back. I have my own opinion , but if anyone would like to share theirs I will gladly pass these on also – or you can contact Vincent and attend yourself?

 

Julia

 

From: Valerio Vincent [mailto:Vincent.Valerio@...]
Sent: 03 May 2012 12:46
Cc: Cllr Canver Nilgun; Cllr Jenks Jim; Cllr Engert Gail; Cllr Bloch Jonathan; Cllr Gorrie Robert; Cllr Reid Errol; Cllr Whyte Monica; Roberts-Wray Chris; Weston Gary; Redfearn Tom
Subject: Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas
Importance: High

 

Dear sir/madam,

 

Invite to community focus group meeting to discuss parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas  

 

I am contacting you as you have previously expressed interest in attending a resident focus group meeting to discuss parking in your area. You may have done this by: responding to an information letter relating to parking in July or November of last year, making contact via your ward councillors or contacting us directly.

 

A community focus group meeting to take place has been arranged as follows:

 

Date and time:          Monday 28 May 7-9pm

Location:                 St Mary’s Infants hall, Church Lane, N8 7BU        

 

The purpose of this focus group meeting is to discuss any parking pressures the community are experiencing and potential ways to address residents’ parking concerns.

 

The meeting will be attended by officers within Traffic Management, ward councillors, residents from roads within the Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas and the Cabinet Member for Neighbourhoods, Councillor Canver.  Agendas will be sent out closer to the meeting time. Please note this meeting is invite only to ensure it is manageable and productive for all those who attend.   

 

I would be grateful if you confirm if you can attend as soon as possible.  

 

Please contact me should you require any more information on this matter.    

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Vincent Valerio

Project Engineer

Traffic Management- Single Frontline

London Borough of Haringey

2nd floor North, River Park House

 

Vincent.valerio@...

020-8489-1325

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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#1181 From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2012 10:46 pm
Subject: CPZ INFORMATION UPDATE
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FOR YOUR COLLECTIVE ATTENTION:
I attended a CPZ community focus group meeting this Monday to discuss 'parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas' on Monday. I heard about it from Julia Henderson and Julie Fraser who are part of the Yahoo group. I think everyone got the info. I didn't see either Julia or Julie there, but they may have been in another group (we were split into two.)
There were about 30+ people there from various parts of Hornsey - from Park Road South across to Hornsey station. The general tenor of the meeting was: 'Please can we have a CPZ!'
There were 'Topics for Discussion' the first one being:
'Are you experiencing parking pressures?' Answer, Yes. (These ranged from 'pressure points' caused by schools, the police-station, Lightfoot Road estate, the New River complex etc etc, but ultimately because of the encroaching CPZ's)
Next question: 'What should the council do about it?' (another few minutes wasted discussing car-sharing etc before the obvious answer: introduce another CPZ. )
Next Question: When do you want to CPZ  consultation to start? Answer: as soon as possible.
 
I've drastically summarised a two hour meeting because essentially the Council officials were there to rubber-stamp their next move, which is to close out the rest of borough CPZ-wise. For a while there was a measure of 'objectivity' maintained but they eventually began extolling all the 'advantages' of a CPZ such as being able to park in front of your own house, etc, and tales of people who objected strongly to CPZ's one month but then came back begging for one a little later.
 
I asked the main chap Vincent Valerio what his next move was and it appears that we (MORRSH streets) will probably be bracketed with the streets to our immediate north (Church Lane, Harold Road etc) in a consultation very soon. The residents from that area are all (or those who attended were) keen to institute a CPZ so I imagine we will be part of that. The 'fast track' timescale suggests that it will all be over in 11 months.
 
Any thoughts on this would be welcome? We could organise a Neighbourhood Watch meeting to discuss our own responses, but I imagine debate is futile: you either want one or you don't. Myself, I still cannot see the need for it, but I guess I would be in the minority.
 
MAIN CHAP TO CONTACT REGARDING THOUGHTS AND INFO
 
 
 


#1182 From: magentalobster@...
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 5:11 am
Subject: Re: CPZ INFORMATION UPDATE
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I was at the meeting and was probably in the other group. I do take the view
that I would rather not have CPZ but see it as a necessary evil as it was clear
that displacement has been high and will continue to be so

#1183 From: "oa@..." <oa@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 597
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Hi all

Regardless of where you position yourself within the CPZ yes to no spectrum, one thing is for sure – expecting to be able to park in front of one's house is delusional, even after you street is in a CPZ. 

Here on Uplands Road it made ZERO difference to the availability of parking spaces. The only noticeable difference is in our wallets! 

I don't know if you will remember - Few years ago we had a survey done door to door and in Crouch End Broadway - 95% of people said they do not need it and do not want it. If you followed GN8 CPZ campaign you would know - we have anticipated current events to unfold and I am sorry to say we were spot on on all accounts.

The only thing still worth talking about, is the fact that Haringey are setting charges to make profit! An unlawful practice – they keep putting the price up despite having few million pounds surplus every year in the last few years. It is also unlawful to use this money for anything other then transport, so if you come at it from a green point of view, know that this money can only be used to support cars and car use.

Haringey gets a way with it, since no one challenges them! 'Keep paying and don't ever complain' is a sure way to keep it going up and up! http://greenn8.org/cpz/cpz-follow-the-money.html

P.s. If I am not mistaken haringey is the only council using CO2 emission CPZ charges which did not make any difference to either people chioces of cars or to the level of CO2 emissions.


Best Wishes 
Ofer

GreenN8   C o m m u n i t y    G r o u p                                                                                 



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Date: Thursday, 31 May 2012 09:37
To: Morrsh Resident Association <LocalWatch@...>
Subject: [LocalWatch] Digest Number 597

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1.1.

CPZ INFORMATION UPDATE

Posted by: "John Harding" jl.harding@...   hardingjohn26

Wed May 30, 2012 11:46 pm



FOR YOUR COLLECTIVE ATTENTION:
I attended a CPZ community focus group meeting this Monday to discuss 'parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas' on Monday. I heard about it from Julia Henderson and Julie Fraser who are part of the Yahoo group. I think everyone got the info. I didn't see either Julia or Julie there, but they may have been in another group (we were split into two.)
There were about 30+ people there from various parts of Hornsey - from Park Road South across to Hornsey station. The general tenor of the meeting was: 'Please can we have a CPZ!' 
There were 'Topics for Discussion' the first one being: 
'Are you experiencing parking pressures?' Answer, Yes. (These ranged from 'pressure points' caused by schools, the police-station, Lightfoot Road estate, the New River complex etc etc, but ultimately because of the encroaching CPZ's)
Next question: 'What should the council do about it?' (another few minutes wasted discussing car-sharing etc before the obvious answer: introduce another CPZ. )
Next Question: When do you want to CPZ consultation to start? Answer: as soon as possible.

I've drastically summarised a two hour meeting because essentially the Council officials were there to rubber-stamp their next move, which is to close out the rest of borough CPZ-wise. For a while there was a measure of 'objectivity' maintained but they eventually began extolling all the 'advantages' of a CPZ such as being able to park in front of your own house, etc, and tales of people who objected strongly to CPZ's one month but then came back begging for one a little later. 

I asked the main chap Vincent Valerio what his next move was and it appears that we (MORRSH streets) will probably be bracketed with the streets to our immediate north (Church Lane, Harold Road etc) in a consultation very soon. The residents from that area are all (or those who attended were) keen to institute a CPZ so I imagine we will be part of that. The 'fast track' timescale suggests that it will all be over in 11 months.

Any thoughts on this would be welcome? We could organise a Neighbourhood Watch meeting to discuss our own responses, but I imagine debate is futile: you either want one or you don't. Myself, I still cannot see the need for it, but I guess I would be in the minority. 

MAIN CHAP TO CONTACT REGARDING THOUGHTS AND INFO
Vincent.valerio@haringey.gov.uk 

1.2.

Re: CPZ INFORMATION UPDATE

Posted by: "magentalobster@..." magentalobster@...  rozeebee89

Thu May 31, 2012 6:11 am



I was at the meeting and was probably in the other group. I do take the view that I would rather not have CPZ but see it as a necessary evil as it was clear that displacement has been high and will continue to be so

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    #1184 From: Julia Henderson <julia.fraser1@...>
    Date: Thu May 31, 2012 6:16 pm
    Subject: Re: CPZ INFORMATION UPDATE
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    Hi

    I was there and Julia Henderson / Fraser is one and the same person. I think you have accurately summarised the discussion.  


    Julia 

    Sent from my iPad

    On 30 May 2012, at 23:46, "John Harding" <jl.harding@...> wrote:

     

    FOR YOUR COLLECTIVE ATTENTION:
    I attended a CPZ community focus group meeting this Monday to discuss 'parking in Muswell Hill/Hornsey areas' on Monday. I heard about it from Julia Henderson and Julie Fraser who are part of the Yahoo group. I think everyone got the info. I didn't see either Julia or Julie there, but they may have been in another group (we were split into two.)
    There were about 30+ people there from various parts of Hornsey - from Park Road South across to Hornsey station. The general tenor of the meeting was: 'Please can we have a CPZ!'
    There were 'Topics for Discussion' the first one being:
    'Are you experiencing parking pressures?' Answer, Yes. (These ranged from 'pressure points' caused by schools, the police-station, Lightfoot Road estate, the New River complex etc etc, but ultimately because of the encroaching CPZ's)
    Next question: 'What should the council do about it?' (another few minutes wasted discussing car-sharing etc before the obvious answer: introduce another CPZ. )
    Next Question: When do you want to CPZ  consultation to start? Answer: as soon as possible.
     
    I've drastically summarised a two hour meeting because essentially the Council officials were there to rubber-stamp their next move, which is to close out the rest of borough CPZ-wise. For a while there was a measure of 'objectivity' maintained but they eventually began extolling all the 'advantages' of a CPZ such as being able to park in front of your own house, etc, and tales of people who objected strongly to CPZ's one month but then came back begging for one a little later.
     
    I asked the main chap Vincent Valerio what his next move was and it appears that we (MORRSH streets) will probably be bracketed with the streets to our immediate north (Church Lane, Harold Road etc) in a consultation very soon. The residents from that area are all (or those who attended were) keen to institute a CPZ so I imagine we will be part of that. The 'fast track' timescale suggests that it will all be over in 11 months.
     
    Any thoughts on this would be welcome? We could organise a Neighbourhood Watch meeting to discuss our own responses, but I imagine debate is futile: you either want one or you don't. Myself, I still cannot see the need for it, but I guess I would be in the minority.
     
    MAIN CHAP TO CONTACT REGARDING THOUGHTS AND INFO
     
     
     


    #1185 From: "bty434192" <sarah.niblock@...>
    Date: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:14 pm
    Subject: Injured cat
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    Dear Neighbours,
    My cat Rico showed up for breakfast today (Sunday 17)  with what I think is a
    broken back paw. He didn't eat and escaped from the garden. I have not seen him
    or been able to lure him back. He needs urgent veterinary attention.
    I would be very grateful if you would check your gardens in case he is hiding or
    lying somewhere. His is a white and tabby fluffy cat with a long very fluffy
    tail.
    07939 518126. My husband's also put notices through some front doors so
    apologies of you are bombarded.
    Many thanks,
    Sarah

    #1186 From: Lisa Saper <lisasaper@...>
    Date: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:47 pm
    Subject: Re: Injured cat
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    Dear Sarah,
    I am truly sorry about your cat, and I will certainly keep an eye out for him. I do not wish to see harm come to any pet.  I am, however, going to bring up what I know is a contentious subject.    Have any of the owners of the many lost and/or injured cats in our neighbourhood considered keeping them inside?  We have had to turn our back garden into a fortress to keep the cats from roaming through our garden, smashing up the vegetables and using our much loved little outdoor space as a communal toilet.  We have put wires and netting up, and still they come in to what must seem like a giant kitty litter tray. I don't want to use chemicals because I don't want to harm the cats or our vegetables.  We keep a giant water pistol handy for when we see them, but we can't be on guard all the time.    My partner is blind, and he frequently comes up with handfuls of cat poo when he is digging in the garden.  This is really not a good thing.  I have also watched out my back window whilst a cat took a bird and another time when a cat took a squirrel. Very distressing to see.

    Now I want to be as friendly and neighbourly as the next person, but I don't imagine anyone would like it if a dog regularly wandered into their garden, did their business and then tore up the plants.  Can someone explain to me please why it is ok for cats to do that? Just asking.

    Thanks
    Lisa

    From: bty434192 <sarah.niblock@...>
    Reply-To: <LocalWatch@...>
    Date: Sunday, 17 June 2012 13:14
    To: <LocalWatch@...>
    Subject: [LocalWatch] Injured cat

     

    Dear Neighbours,
    My cat Rico showed up for breakfast today (Sunday 17) with what I think is a broken back paw. He didn't eat and escaped from the garden. I have not seen him or been able to lure him back. He needs urgent veterinary attention.
    I would be very grateful if you would check your gardens in case he is hiding or lying somewhere. His is a white and tabby fluffy cat with a long very fluffy tail.
    07939 518126. My husband's also put notices through some front doors so apologies of you are bombarded.
    Many thanks,
    Sarah


    #1187 From: "bty434192" <sarah.niblock@...>
    Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:47 am
    Subject: Re: Injured cat
    bty434192
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    Dear Neighbours,
    
    The cat has returned overnight and is under veterinary care. Many thanks to
    those of you who sent kind messages. Lisa, I do sympathise with your plight and
    if it is any reassurance (though I don't live near you) some of us do keep our
    cats within firm boundaries, use litter trays and try to minimise harm to
    wildlife with collar bells etc. Our garden's a bit of a bird hang-out as a
    result. Given that cats seem to have taken a particular shine to your garden,
    you might wish to speak with a vet or specialist (I suspect you have done this)
    to see whether there are any powerful sonic or scent repellents. The water
    pistol approach is effective - especially if it's a power blaster! Even if you
    can't get them each time they do remember.
    
    Best wishes,
    
    Sarah (Rathcoole Gardens)
    
    --- In LocalWatch@..., Lisa Saper <lisasaper@...> wrote:
    >
    > Dear Sarah,
    > I am truly sorry about your cat, and I will certainly keep an eye out for
    > him. I do not wish to see harm come to any pet.  I am, however, going to
    > bring up what I know is a contentious subject.    Have any of the owners of
    > the many lost and/or injured cats in our neighbourhood considered keeping
    > them inside?  We have had to turn our back garden into a fortress to keep
    > the cats from roaming through our garden, smashing up the vegetables and
    > using our much loved little outdoor space as a communal toilet.  We have put
    > wires and netting up, and still they come in to what must seem like a giant
    > kitty litter tray. I don't want to use chemicals because I don't want to
    > harm the cats or our vegetables.  We keep a giant water pistol handy for
    > when we see them, but we can't be on guard all the time.    My partner is
    > blind, and he frequently comes up with handfuls of cat poo when he is
    > digging in the garden.  This is really not a good thing.  I have also
    > watched out my back window whilst a cat took a bird and another time when a
    > cat took a squirrel. Very distressing to see.
    >
    > Now I want to be as friendly and neighbourly as the next person, but I don't
    > imagine anyone would like it if a dog regularly wandered into their garden,
    > did their business and then tore up the plants.  Can someone explain to me
    > please why it is ok for cats to do that? Just asking.
    >
    > Thanks
    > Lisa
    >
    > From:  bty434192 <sarah.niblock@...>
    > Reply-To:  <LocalWatch@...>
    > Date:  Sunday, 17 June 2012 13:14
    > To:  <LocalWatch@...>
    > Subject:  [LocalWatch] Injured cat
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Dear Neighbours,
    > My cat Rico showed up for breakfast today (Sunday 17)  with what I think is
    > a broken back paw. He didn't eat and escaped from the garden. I have not
    > seen him or been able to lure him back. He needs urgent veterinary
    > attention.
    > I would be very grateful if you would check your gardens in case he is
    > hiding or lying somewhere. His is a white and tabby fluffy cat with a long
    > very fluffy tail.
    > 07939 518126. My husband's also put notices through some front doors so
    > apologies of you are bombarded.
    > Many thanks,
    > Sarah
    >

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