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Hi there

Just wanted to let you know that she is back yet again! She rang our door bell
last night at 11.30pm with the same story.  Thing is, she's already done this to
us before-3 or 4 yrs ago she knocked at 8.30am and unfortunately caught me off
guard and I actually gave her money! (Foolish but you live and learn). Can't
believe she tried us again! This must be a fruitful area :)

Dominique

--- In LocalWatch@..., Kenny Jones <kenny@...> wrote:
>
>  She�s back!.. Eager as ever.. The well spoken black lady who rings your
> door bell at 1.30am claiming to be your neighbour from up the road and
> asking for one reason or another to borrow the fare to pay the mini cab
> (waiting in the road) is back!..
>
> This is an old one I know...but I just thought I�d put a message out to let
> it be known she�s back and trying it on over the other side of the Rathcoole
> block this time..  So watch out for her!
>
> I wonder if she�s local or if she commutes over here to work!? Heh!
>
> Happy New Year all..
>
> Kenny :-)
>

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#745

From: GreenN8 <oa@...>
Date: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:07 am
Subject: Haringey Briefing on Swine Flu

greenn8

Hello,

there is a new topic on the "GN8 online community" - Haringey Briefing on Swine Flu
Read this topic at http://www.greenn8.org.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl/Blah.pl?m-1246272158/.

Best Wishes
Ofer

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#746

From: Diane Dalmon <dianedalmon@...>
Date: Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:34 pm
Subject: Fwd: Fw: New lap dancing application in Crouch End - How to have your say

dianedalmon

Hi all, �it would be good if we can help this application fail.

Best

Diane

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Date: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Subject: Fw: New lap dancing application in Crouch End - How to have your say
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Dear Diane Dalmon,

Just in case you have not already heard, I am writing to let you know that
there has been a new application for a lap dancing club on Tottenham Lane
in Crouch End. �In spite of our efforts to stop the Music Palace getting
direct permission to run a lap dancing club in the heart of our community,
the applicants are back - this time they are trying a different tack and
are applying for planning permission.

I�m again working very closely with the �Lapoff� campaigners and my Lib Dem
Councillor colleague Dave Winskill to make sure residents get to have a
say. �Councillor Winskill has already sent in a broad objection to the
application, and has asked Haringey Council to host a public planning forum
so the community has the maximum opportunity to get involved in this
important decision.

I will be submitting my own objection in the next few weeks. �Please make
sure you have your say too. You can view the full application online at;
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/index/housing_and_planning/planning-mainpage/applications/view_applications.htm
�- Go to view applications and enter reference HGY/2009/0953. �You can also
email customercare@... with this reference clearly indicating
it is a planning objection. �Please do copy me into your email so I can get
a feel for your thoughts on the matter.

With the community standing together I hope we can see off this
application.

Kind regards,

Lynne Featherstone
MP for Hornsey & Wood Green (Liberal Democrat)
lynne@...

020 8340 5459

PS - Please do forward this email to any of your neighbours who might not
have heard about the new application and would want to have their say.

The small print:

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#747

From: Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:53 pm
Subject: Bolt from the blue

burglary_bill

Dear neighbours – does anyone have a view on this enquiry from a prospective Rathcoole resident (below)? Is there anything to worry about?

Bruno

We are in process of buying a house in Rathcoole Avenue close to the substation.We have only just been made aware of health concerns with regard to the radiation field emitted by substations. Are you aware of any steps taken to protect residents from this possible radiation or any other relevant information (or a an organisation we could refer to?We have a child so we are concerned but love the street and house!
Thank you in anticipation.

Kind Regards

#748

From: Kenny Jones <kenny@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: Bolt from the blue

kenny_jones00

Ooh errr.. That’s a new one on me I have to say... I reckon the substation must have been there quite some while... Have not heard of anyone suffering ill effects..

KJ :-)

From: Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...>
Reply-To: <LocalWatch@...>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:53:44 +0100
To: Localwatch <LocalWatch@...>
Subject: [LocalWatch] Bolt from the blue

Dear neighbours – does anyone have a view on this enquiry from a prospective Rathcoole resident (below)? Is there anything to worry about?

Bruno

We are in process of buying a house in Rathcoole Avenue close to the substation.We have only just been made aware of health concerns with regard to the radiation field emitted by substations. Are you aware of any steps taken to protect residents from this possible radiation or any other relevant information (or a an organisation we could refer to?We have a child so we are concerned but love the street and house!
Thank you in anticipation.

Kind Regards

#749

From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:26 pm
Subject: electricity question

shilly3shally

2 of 2 File(s)

Answer to Question.doc

Electric.doc

#750

From: Tara Fraser <tara@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Bolt from the blue

tr_fraser

Hi Bruno

I looked into this a bit when we bought our house at 53 Rathcoole Ave a bit further down from the sub-station. There is mountains of scary material on the web about this but in the end I decided (very scientifically) that we could neither hear nor feel anything nasty and liked the house so we went ahead. So far none of the household has experienced any symptoms............touch wood!
Tx
--
Tara Fraser

Yoga Junction
The Old Flower Shop
93a Weston Park
Crouch End
London
N8 9PR

020 8347 0000

www.yogajunction.co.uk
info@...

#751

From: "pam.j.lewis@..." <pam.j.lewis@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: Bolt from the blue

pam.j.lewis...

As the sellers of the property in question we obviously have a vested interest,
but it has never bothered us in the 12 years we've lived here, especialy as the
wife of the couple we bought it from had lived here all her life, as had her
parents who died at 90+.

However, one point our buyers' surveyor raised was that the substation building
is looking somewhat uncared for (buddleia taken root on the walls etc) and this
is not normal for a working substation. Now we think about it, we've not seen
anybody visiting for maintenance for a couple of years, so we're wondering if it
has in fact been de-commissioned.  Anybody know how we can find out for sure and
what the plans might be?

Pam & Bob

--- In LocalWatch@..., Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...> wrote:
>
> Dear neighbours � does anyone have a view on this enquiry from a prospective
> Rathcoole resident (below)? Is there anything to worry about?
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
> We are in process of buying a house in Rathcoole Avenue close to the
> substation.We have only just been made aware of health concerns with regard
> to the radiation field emitted by substations. Are you aware of any steps
> taken to protect residents from  this possible radiation or any other
> relevant information (or a an organisation we could refer to?We have a child
> so we are concerned but love the street and house!
> Thank you in anticipation.
>
> Kind Regards
>

#752

From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Bolt from the blue

shilly3shally

http://www.nationalgrid.com/UK

ask these people

----- Original Message -----

From: pam.j.lewis@...

To: LocalWatch@...

Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:55 PM

Subject: [LocalWatch] Re: Bolt from the blue

As the sellers of the property in question we obviously have a vested interest, but it has never bothered us in the 12 years we've lived here, especialy as the wife of the couple we bought it from had lived here all her life, as had her parents who died at 90+.

However, one point our buyers' surveyor raised was that the substation building is looking somewhat uncared for (buddleia taken root on the walls etc) and this is not normal for a working substation. Now we think about it, we've not seen anybody visiting for maintenance for a couple of years, so we're wondering if it has in fact been de-commissioned. Anybody know how we can find out for sure and what the plans might be?

Pam & Bob

--- In LocalWatch@yahoogroups.co.uk, Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...> wrote:
>
> Dear neighbours does anyone have a view on this enquiry from a prospective
> Rathcoole resident (below)? Is there anything to worry about?
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
> We are in process of buying a house in Rathcoole Avenue close to the
> substation.We have only just been made aware of health concerns with regard
> to the radiation field emitted by substations. Are you aware of any steps
> taken to protect residents from this possible radiation or any other
> relevant information (or a an organisation we could refer to?We have a child
> so we are concerned but love the street and house!
> Thank you in anticipation.
>
> Kind Regards
>

#753

From: Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 10:34 pm
Subject: Going bananas

burglary_bill

Dear all – it is a rare and unusual thing for me to circulate this sort of thing (see below), but here’s an exception. This is a scandal.

Bruno

Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:05 PM

Subject: 'Play Fair, Trade Fair'... pse tell all but not until Sat Oct 31...

I would appreciate if you could all circulate this through your networks and to friends etc. The Grocer (the food industry trade journal) are going to feature this on this Sat, Oct 31 and I have promised to keep under wraps until then, so pse tell all, but do not do so until Sat!!!

Regards

Andrew

Andrew Thornton
Thornton's Budgens

Mobile: 07831 206691
www.thorntonsbudgens.com <http://www.thorntonsbudgens.com>

Play Fair, Trade Fair

Have you noticed that the price of Bananas seems very low these days? Well there is a good reason for this and that's because there is a price war going on, led by the Wal*Mart subsidiary Asda.

With UK banana prices now at 1/3 of the real price they were 7 years ago, there is only one loser in all this and that is banana farmers and workers in the developing world.

Our appeal to you - if you care about the plight of banana workers in the developing world, don't buy cheap bananas in the Supermarkets, buy them elsewhere!

So before getting some key facts on the table, the call to action:

Please stop buying cheap bananas in supermarkets!
Tell all your friends, families and even enemies!
If you are a retailer, join in our campaign, so you too can tell your customers (see our website: www.thorntonsbudgens.com <http://www.thorntonsbudgens.com> to download flyers etc).

We at Thornton's Budgens are not going to play in this wreckless 'game' and for the month of November will be donating all our banana profits to a plantation workers organisation in Costa Rica.

Just in case you're not already convinced, here are some more facts:

* In 2002 (before the last banana price war), the price per kilo in major supermarkets was £1.10.

* As at the end of October 2009, the price in Asda and Morrisons was 38p per kilo, about 1/3 (in real terms) of the 2002 price. The other majors (including the more ethically minded Waitrose and M&S) are also selling bananas for a stupidly low prices.

* The Windward Islands banana trade depends largely on the UK Supermarkets for their survival. In 1992, they had 24,000 banana farms; today there are a mere 4,000.

* The major supermarkets say they are absorbing the cost of this themselves. This may be the case right now, but nowhere in the history of modern supermarkets is there an example of the cost of a price war being absorbed long term. It's no surprise that the annual banana contracts come up for renewal in January. You can imagine the opening line of meetings when buyers sit down their suppliers to re-negotiate...

* There is only one loser in all this and that's the people of banana growing lands who are powerless in the equation.

* Banana Link established that after the last major Banana price war, that the workers get 2-3% of the retail price of a banana; the supermarkets get 40%. Where the product is Fairtrade, the small farmers' and workers' share rises to 12 percent.

* The same Banana Link study identified that to earn the weekly minimum wage in Costa Rica, many workers had to work 15 hours a day, 6 days a week; their average wage per hour, a mere 33p! To download this report go to our website.

* On Monday October 26, Wal*Mart dropped the price of Bananas in the US by 27% to 39 cents/lb. This is a global powerplay for market domination at the expense of the less fortunate. If you think about the impact of a UK price war, one in the US will have 5 times the effect on the global banana market.

The best article that's been written about this was in the Observer. It is linked to the third news item on the Banana Link home page:#

www.bananalink.org.uk/content/view/444/1/lang,en/ <http://www.bananalink.org.uk/content/view/444/1/lang,en/> .

You will also see a link to 'You and Yours' on Radio 4 which also covered the subject. For those hungry for more information, do look through the rest of their web site.

If you are a retailer and want to join this campaign, please see our website.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and hopefully acting upon it.

Regards

Andrew Thornton

www.thorntonsbudgens.com <http://www.thorntonsbudgens.com>

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#754

From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 5:26 pm
Subject: scooter noise

shilly3shally

anyone witnessed the recurrence of noisy scooters recently? i had words with a white youth/young man this evening who'd been roaring up rathcoole gardens early evening. wheelies etc. just want to know if it's just me or if anyone else has been troubled. he said he was local.

#755

From: "julian_penfold" <julianandrita@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: scooter noise

julian_penfold

Have seen at least one face that I remember from two or three years ago when
there was a bunch of youths racing around the neighbourhood, mainly centered in
Harvey Road.  At the time the Safer Neighbourhoods Team clamped down on them
plus I think one or two moved away and the disruption only lasted a few months.
I have noticed scooters once or twice recently in Harvey Road but nothing
inordinate.
Why not have a word with the SNT again?  I believe they have the power to
impound scooters that are illegal, not roadworthy, not taxed, uninsured etc and
demand a hefty release fee which vagabonds are unlikely to be able to afford. 
Worth a try I would have thought.

--- In LocalWatch@..., "John Harding" <jl.harding@...> wrote:
>
> anyone witnessed the recurrence of noisy scooters recently? i had words with a
white youth/young man this evening who'd been roaring up rathcoole gardens early
evening. wheelies etc. just want to know if it's just me or if anyone else has
been troubled. he said he was local.
>

#756

From: Hattie Coppard <hattie@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: scooter noise

hattie_coppard

Yes I have noticed the odd single speeding scooter. Not the mad races tho of a couple of years ago. Good on you for talking direct to the rider rather than jumping to call the police. I'll try and do the same.

Sent from my mobile

On 7 Nov 2009, at 17:26, "John Harding" <jl.harding@...> wrote:

anyone witnessed the recurrence of noisy scooters recently? i had words with a white youth/young man this evening who'd been roaring up rathcoole gardens early evening. wheelies etc. just want to know if it's just me or if anyone else has been troubled. he said he was local.

#757

From: "Lisa Saper" <lisasaper@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
Subject: RE: scooter noise

lisasaper

The young man lives at 33 Harvey Road. I believe his name is Jordan (although I could be wrong). His dad, Mike, is the nicest bloke you will ever meet. Jordan isn’t a “bad” kid (young man really)—just irresponsible and immature. The dangerous scooter riding makes me crazy too. He is going to kill himself or someone else if he keeps it up. I’ll try to have a word with him this week and let him know that he is the subject of neighbourhood anger/frustration and see if I can talk some sense into him. In the meantime, I encourage everyone else to talk to him too if they catch him at it. Neighbourhood shaming is likely to have a much greater impact than the police!

Lisa

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of Hattie Coppard
Sent: 07 November 2009 22:57
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] scooter noise

On 7 Nov 2009, at 17:26, "John Harding" <jl.harding@...> wrote:

anyone witnessed the recurrence of noisy scooters recently? i had words with a white youth/young man this evening who'd been roaring up rathcoole gardens early evening. wheelies etc. just want to know if it's just me or if anyone else has been troubled. he said he was local.

#758

From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: scooter noise

shilly3shally

Many thanks Hattie and Lisa,

I did talk at length to him (and a friend of his). Their main line of argument was that, because they were licenced and insured, 'the police couldn't do a thing' which was what they stuck at for most of my lengthy discussion/argument. I had, I will confess, earlier walked out into the street as he was speeding up Rathcoole Gardens and more or less flagged him down (risking life and limb) to complain and to say I WAS calling the police! His first words were, 'I'm insured and I have my road tax etc' which I said wasn't the point. I later walked up Harvey Road because I had a hunch that's where he lived and found him at the top, where I apologised for getting angry (the endless patience of the liberal mind!) and then talked about the stress and danger he caused. He grudgingly said sorry at first, while carrying on with fiddling with his bike - I thought he was embarrassed at having me standing there chatting and making jokes and would have preferred aggression - but gradually he retreated into defiance, more or less saying that he was entitled to use the road as a testing ground, that the noise was inevitable because of the engine (!) and that no-one could stop him etc etc and thence once more into the fultility of calling the police. I wouldn't say it was a meeting of minds but the more people speak out the better because it's a problem that tends to recur and it really is quite dangerous in a narrow street like Rathcooole. I always thought the point of the Safer Neighbourhood Police Units was to talk to various youths and point out the pitfalls - I'm inclined to ask our Unit to pay him a call but I won't if people think it's counter-productive. Anyone else witnessed this phenomenon?

Best Wishes,

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Lisa Saper

To: LocalWatch@...

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:27 AM

Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] scooter noise

The young man lives at 33 Harvey Road. I believe his name is Jordan (although I could be wrong). His dad, Mike, is the nicest bloke you will ever meet. Jordan isn’t a “bad” kid (young man really)—just irresponsible and immature. The dangerous scooter riding makes me crazy too. He is going to kill himself or someone else if he keeps it up. I’ll try to have a word with him this week and let him know that he is the subject of neighbourhood anger/frustration and see if I can talk some sense into him. In the meantime, I encourage everyone else to talk to him too if they catch him at it. Neighbourhood shaming is likely to have a much greater impact than the police!

Lisa

From: LocalWatch@yahoogroups.co.uk [mailto:LocalWatch@yahoogroups.co.uk] On Behalf Of Hattie Coppard
Sent: 07 November 2009 22:57
To: LocalWatch@yahoogroups.co.uk
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] scooter noise

Yes I have noticed the odd single speeding scooter. Not the mad races tho of a couple of years ago. Good on you for talking direct to the rider rather than jumping to call the police. I'll try and do the same.

Sent from my mobile

On 7 Nov 2009, at 17:26, "John Harding" <jl.harding@virgin.net> wrote:

anyone witnessed the recurrence of noisy scooters recently? i had words with a white youth/young man this evening who'd been roaring up rathcoole gardens early evening. wheelies etc. just want to know if it's just me or if anyone else has been troubled. he said he was local.

#759

From: Hattie Coppard <hattie@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: scooter noise

hattie_coppard

www.experimentalplaygrounds.blogspot.com

Hi John
I think we should use the Safer police Unit - is that another name for community police?
Good luck
Hattie

John Harding wrote:

ï»¿

Many thanks Hattie and Lisa,

I did talk at length to him (and a friend of his). Their main line of argument was that, because they were licenced and insured, 'the police couldn't do a thing' which was what they stuck at for most of my lengthy discussion/argument. I had, I will confess, earlier walked out into the street as he was speeding up Rathcoole Gardens and more or less flagged him down (risking life and limb) to complain and to say I WAS calling the police! His first words were, 'I'm insured and I have my road tax etc' which I said wasn't the point. I later walked up Harvey Road because I had a hunch that's where he lived and found him at the top, where I apologised for getting angry (the endless patience of the liberal mind!) and then talked about the stress and danger he caused. He grudgingly said sorry at first, while carrying on with fiddling with his bike - I thought he was embarrassed at having me standing there chatting and making jokes and would have preferred aggression - but gradually he retreated into defiance, more or less saying that he was entitled to use the road as a testing ground, that the noise was inevitable because of the engine (!) and that no-one could stop him etc etc and thence once more into the fultility of calling the police. I wouldn't say it was a meeting of minds but the more people speak out the better because it's a problem that tends to recur and it really is quite dangerous in a narrow street like Rathcooole. I always thought the point of the Safer Neighbourhood Police Units was to talk to various youths and point out the pitfalls - I'm inclined to ask our Unit to pay him a call but I won't if people think it's counter-productive. Anyone else witnessed this phenomenon?

Best Wishes,

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Lisa Saper

To: LocalWatch@yahoogroups.co.uk

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:27 AM

Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] scooter noise

The young man lives at 33 Harvey Road. I believe his name is Jordan (although I could be wrong). His dad, Mike, is the nicest bloke you will ever meet. Jordan isnâ€™t a â€œbadâ€ kid (young man really)â€”just irresponsible and immature. The dangerous scooter riding makes me crazy too. He is going to kill himself or someone else if he keeps it up. Iâ€™ll try to have a word with him this week and let him know that he is the subject of neighbourhood anger/frustration and see if I can talk some sense into him. In the meantime, I encourage everyone else to talk to him too if they catch him at it. Neighbourhood shaming is likely to have a much greater impact than the police!

Lisa

From: LocalWatch@yahoogroups.co.uk [mailto:LocalWatch@yahoogroups.co.uk] On Behalf Of Hattie Coppard
Sent: 07 November 2009 22:57
To: LocalWatch@yahoogroups.co.uk
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] scooter noise

Yes I have noticed the odd single speeding scooter. Not the mad races tho of a couple of years ago. Good on you for talking direct to the rider rather than jumping to call the police. I'll try and do the same.

Sent from my mobile

On 7 Nov 2009, at 17:26, "John Harding" <jl.harding@virgin.net> wrote:

anyone witnessed the recurrence of noisy scooters recently? i had words with a white youth/young man this evening who'd been roaring up rathcoole gardens early evening. wheelies etc. just want to know if it's just me or if anyone else has been troubled. he said he was local.

HATTIE COPPARD
Director

Snug & Outdoor
www.snugandoutdoor.co.uk

T: 020 8374 2176
M: 07834 850905

F: 0870 706 4654

127 RATHCOOLE GARDENS

LONDON N8 9PH

ENGLAND

#760

From: Kenny Jones <kenny@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:42 am
Subject: In need of a Corgi!

kenny_jones00

Help! My old Robinson Willey pretend coal fire is in need of it’s thermocouple being replaced.. I have the spare part, but I’m rather shy of ‘messing about’ with gas appliance etc!! (Don’t want to create a large hole were 79 Rathcoole Gardens once was)!.. Is there anyone in this group who can either provide the expertise or recommend a tame Corgi? Don’t think this is a long or difficult job... Cash on offer etc??..

Cheers all
Kenny :-)

ï»¿

Many thanks Hattie and Lisa,

I did talk at length to him (and a friend of his). Their main line of argument was that, because they were licenced and insured, 'the police couldn't do a thing' which was what they stuck at for most of my lengthy discussion/argument. I had, I will confess, earlier walked out into the street as he was speeding up Rathcoole Gardens and more or less flagged him down (risking life and limb) to complain and to say I WAS calling the police! His first words were, 'I'm insured and I have my road tax etc' which I said wasn't the point. I later walked up Harvey Road because I had a hunch that's where he lived and found him at the top, where I apologised for getting angry (the endless patience of the liberal mind!) and then talked about the stress and danger he caused. He grudgingly said sorry at first, while carrying on with fiddling with his bike - I thought he was embarrassed at having me standing there chatting and making jokes and would have preferred aggression - but gradually he retreated into defiance, more or less saying that he was entitled to use the road as a testing ground, that the noise was inevitable because of the engine (!) and that no-one could stop him etc etc and thence once more into the fultility of calling the police. I wouldn't say it was a meeting of minds but the more people speak out the better because it's a problem that tends to recur and it really is quite dangerous in a narrow street like Rathcooole. I always thought the point of the Safer Neighbourhood Police Units was to talk to various youths and point out the pitfalls - I'm inclined to ask our Unit to pay him a call but I won't if people think it's counter-productive. Anyone else witnessed this phenomenon?

Best Wishes,

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Lisa Saper <mailto:lisasaper@...>

To: LocalWatch@...

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:27 AM

Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] scooter noise



The young man lives at 33 Harvey Road. I believe his name is Jordan (although I could be wrong). His dad, Mike, is the nicest bloke you will ever meet. Jordan isnâ€™t a â€œbadâ€ˇ kid (young man really)â€”just irresponsible and immature. The dangerous scooter riding makes me crazy too. He is going to kill himself or someone else if he keeps it up.   Iâ€™ll try to have a word with him this week and let him know that he is the subject of neighbourhood anger/frustration and see if I can talk some sense into him. In the meantime, I encourage everyone else to talk to him too if they catch him at it. Neighbourhood shaming is likely to have a much greater impact than the police!

Lisa

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of Hattie Coppard
Sent: 07 November 2009 22:57
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] scooter noise



Yes I have noticed the odd single speeding scooter. Not the mad races tho of a couple of years ago. Good on you for talking direct to the rider rather than jumping to call the police. I'll try and do the same.

Sent from my mobile

On 7 Nov 2009, at 17:26, "John Harding" <jl.harding@...> wrote:



anyone witnessed the recurrence of noisy scooters recently? i had words with a white youth/young man this evening who'd been roaring up rathcoole gardens early evening. wheelies etc. just want to know if it's just me or if anyone else has been troubled. he said he was local.

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#761

From: "James Bridgman" <james@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:04 pm
Subject: RE: In need of a Corgi!

purplepoolpl...

I know a very good local plumber / gas safe registered. Leo Breen / Breen Plumbing - 07730 503 535

James bridgman

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of Kenny Jones
Sent: 18 November 2009 11:43
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: [LocalWatch] In need of a Corgi!

ï»¿

Many thanks Hattie and Lisa,

I did talk at length to him (and a friend of his). Their main line of argument was that, because they were licenced and insured, 'the police couldn't do a thing' which was what they stuck at for most of my lengthy discussion/argument. I had, I will confess, earlier walked out into the street as he was speeding up Rathcoole Gardens and more or less flagged him down (risking life and limb) to complain and to say I WAS calling the police! His first words were, 'I'm insured and I have my road tax etc' which I said wasn't the point. I later walked up Harvey Road because I had a hunch that's where he lived and found him at the top, where I apologised for getting angry (the endless patience of the liberal mind!) and then talked about the stress and danger he caused. He grudgingly said sorry at first, while carrying on with fiddling with his bike - I thought he was embarrassed at having me standing there chatting and making jokes and would have preferred aggression - but gradually he retreated into defiance, more or less saying that he was entitled to use the road as a testing ground, that the noise was inevitable because of the engine (!) and that no-one could stop him etc etc and thence once more into the fultility of calling the police. I wouldn't say it was a meeting of minds but the more people speak out the better because it's a problem that tends to recur and it really is quite dangerous in a narrow street like Rathcooole. I always thought the point of the Safer Neighbourhood Police Units was to talk to various youths and point out the pitfalls - I'm inclined to ask our Unit to pay him a call but I won't if people think it's counter-productive. Anyone else witnessed this phenomenon?

Best Wishes,

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Lisa Saper <mailto:lisasaper@...>

To: LocalWatch@...

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:27 AM

Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] scooter noise



The young man lives at 33 Harvey Road. I believe his name is Jordan (although I could be wrong). His dad, Mike, is the nicest bloke you will ever meet. Jordan isnâ€™t a â€œbadâ€ˇ kid (young man really)â€”just irresponsible and immature. The dangerous scooter riding makes me crazy too. He is going to kill himself or someone else if he keeps it up.   Iâ€™ll try to have a word with him this week and let him know that he is the subject of neighbourhood anger/frustration and see if I can talk some sense into him. In the meantime, I encourage everyone else to talk to him too if they catch him at it. Neighbourhood shaming is likely to have a much greater impact than the police!

Lisa

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of Hattie Coppard
Sent: 07 November 2009 22:57
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] scooter noise



Yes I have noticed the odd single speeding scooter. Not the mad races tho of a couple of years ago. Good on you for talking direct to the rider rather than jumping to call the police. I'll try and do the same.

Sent from my mobile

On 7 Nov 2009, at 17:26, "John Harding" <jl.harding@...> wrote:

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#762

From: Kenny Jones <kenny@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:41 pm
Subject: Re: In need of a Corgi!

kenny_jones00

Many thanks James.. I’ll give him a call..

Kenny :-)

From: James Bridgman <james@...>
Reply-To: <LocalWatch@...>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:04:42 -0000
To: <LocalWatch@...>
Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] In need of a Corgi!

I know a very good local plumber / gas safe registered. Leo Breen / Breen Plumbing - 07730 503 535

James bridgman

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of Kenny Jones
Sent: 18 November 2009 11:43
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: [LocalWatch] In need of a Corgi!

Help! My old Robinson Willey pretend coal fire is in need of it’s thermocouple being replaced.. I have the spare part, but I’m rather shy of ‘messing about’ with gas appliance etc!! (Don’t want to create a large hole were 79 Rathcoole Gardens once was)!.. Is there anyone in this group who can either provide the expertise or recommend a tame Corgi? Don’t think this is a long or difficult job... Cash on offer etc??..

Cheers all
Kenny :-)

From: Hattie Coppard <hattie@...>
Reply-To: <LocalWatch@...>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:13:19 +0000
To: <LocalWatch@...>
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] scooter noise



Hi John
I think we should use the Safer police Unit - is that another name for community police?
Good luck
Hattie

John Harding wrote:

ï»¿

Many thanks Hattie and Lisa,

I did talk at length to him (and a friend of his). Their main line of argument was that, because they were licenced and insured, 'the police couldn't do a thing' which was what they stuck at for most of my lengthy discussion/argument. I had, I will confess, earlier walked out into the street as he was speeding up Rathcoole Gardens and more or less flagged him down (risking life and limb) to complain and to say I WAS calling the police! His first words were, 'I'm insured and I have my road tax etc' which I said wasn't the point. I later walked up Harvey Road because I had a hunch that's where he lived and found him at the top, where I apologised for getting angry (the endless patience of the liberal mind!) and then talked about the stress and danger he caused. He grudgingly said sorry at first, while carrying on with fiddling with his bike - I thought he was embarrassed at having me standing there chatting and making jokes and would have preferred aggression - but gradually he retreated into defiance, more or less saying that he was entitled to use the road as a testing ground, that the noise was inevitable because of the engine (!) and that no-one could stop him etc etc and thence once more into the fultility of calling the police. I wouldn't say it was a meeting of minds but the more people speak out the better because it's a problem that tends to recur and it really is quite dangerous in a narrow street like Rathcooole. I always thought the point of the Safer Neighbourhood Police Units was to talk to various youths and point out the pitfalls - I'm inclined to ask our Unit to pay him a call but I won't if people think it's counter-productive. Anyone else witnessed this phenomenon?

Best Wishes,

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Lisa Saper <mailto:lisasaper@...>

To: LocalWatch@...

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:27 AM

Subject: RE: [LocalWatch] scooter noise



The young man lives at 33 Harvey Road. I believe his name is Jordan (although I could be wrong). His dad, Mike, is the nicest bloke you will ever meet. Jordan isnâ€™t a â€œbadâ€ˇ kid (young man really)â€”just irresponsible and immature. The dangerous scooter riding makes me crazy too. He is going to kill himself or someone else if he keeps it up.   Iâ€™ll try to have a word with him this week and let him know that he is the subject of neighbourhood anger/frustration and see if I can talk some sense into him. In the meantime, I encourage everyone else to talk to him too if they catch him at it. Neighbourhood shaming is likely to have a much greater impact than the police!

Lisa

From: LocalWatch@... [mailto:LocalWatch@...] On Behalf Of Hattie Coppard
Sent: 07 November 2009 22:57
To: LocalWatch@...
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] scooter noise



Yes I have noticed the odd single speeding scooter. Not the mad races tho of a couple of years ago. Good on you for talking direct to the rider rather than jumping to call the police. I'll try and do the same.

Sent from my mobile

On 7 Nov 2009, at 17:26, "John Harding" <jl.harding@...> wrote:



anyone witnessed the recurrence of noisy scooters recently? i had words with a white youth/young man this evening who'd been roaring up rathcoole gardens early evening. wheelies etc. just want to know if it's just me or if anyone else has been troubled. he said he was local.

--

HATTIE COPPARD
Director

Snug & Outdoor
www.snugandoutdoor.co.uk <http://snugandoutdoor.co.uk>

www.experimentalplaygrounds.blogspot.com <http://experimentalplay.blogspot.com>

T: 020 8374 2176
M: 07834 850905

F: 0870 706 4654

127 RATHCOOLE GARDENS

LONDON N8 9PH

ENGLAND



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#763

From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:51 pm
Subject: SPEED LIMITS

shilly3shally

20mph speed zones cut road injuries by 40.doc

Hi Everyone,

I attach something that I think we might think about re our small complex of roads. 20mph seems reasonable and it amazes me the speed some people bomb around at round here - very dangerous. What does anyone think and how might one go about applying to get a limit applied to MORRSH if thought necessary?

John

ps and what about a small campaign to extend our e-mail membership - no-one's joined for ages and it's a useful form of contact?

1 of 1 File(s)

#764

From: "julian_penfold" <julianandrita@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:06 am
Subject: Re: SPEED LIMITS

julian_penfold

I can't say I have noticed a lot of speeding but then we don't have much through
traffic in Oakley!  20mph seems more than sufficient - I imagine one would write
to the relevant council department.  If there seems to be a consensus one could
mention this when contacting them.

Regarding membership if someone could manage to draft a simple flyer with
details of the group I would be happy to print enough for say Oakley and Harvey
Road and distribute them - any volunteers for other roads?
regards
Julian

Here's the page from the Council website:

http://www.haringey.gov.uk/index/environment_and_transport/roadsandstreets/roads\
afety.htm

Road safety
Haringey Council promotes road safety through education and training and by
introducing road safety schemes. Please use the links below to find out more
about what we do.

Haringey Council has a continuing programme of schemes to improve the safety and
operation of the highway network. Many of these schemes originate from issues
reported by members of the public such as dangerous road junctions, requests for
pedestrian crossing facilities, speed restraint measures (such as road humps),
and minor issues such as new warning signs.

If you would like to raise a concern or contact us about road safety in
Haringey, please contact us:

Tel 020 8489 1335
Fax 020 8489 1331
Email frontline@....

School Travel - Information about School Crossing Patrols and Walking Buses.
Traffic Schemes - Useful information about the different solutions the council
considers to improve the safety and operation of the highway network.
Road Safety Consultations - Haringey Council consults residents for their views
before the introduction of any new road safety schemes. The Road Safety
Consultations page has details of current and recent consultations.
Road Signs and Markings - Information about common road signs and markings
Speed Limits - Information about how speed limits and speed cameras improve
safety for road users.
Pedestrian Crossings - Find out about how the council uses pedestrian crossings
to encourage people to walk and improve road safety.
Useful External Links
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our legal disclaimer before using these links

Transport for London

--- In LocalWatch@..., "John Harding" <jl.harding@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I attach something that I think we might think about re our small complex of
roads. 20mph seems reasonable and it amazes me the speed some people bomb around
at round here - very dangerous. What does anyone think and how might one go
about applying to get a limit applied to MORRSH if thought necessary?
> John
> ps and what about a small campaign to extend our e-mail membership - no-one's
joined for ages and it's a useful form of contact?
>

#765

From: Tamzin Caffrey <tamzincaffrey@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:09 am
Subject: RE: SPEED LIMITS [1 Attachment]

caffret

We're not aware of much speeding and I'd be inclined to say that imposing additional speed limits would be unnecessary and rather expensive, not to mention requiring more ugly street furniture and (perish the thought) the possibility of spped bumps - aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

Tamzin

To: LocalWatch@...
From: jl.harding@...
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:51:29 +0000
Subject: [LocalWatch] SPEED LIMITS [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from John Harding included below]

Hi Everyone,

John

ps and what about a small campaign to extend our e-mail membership - no-one's joined for ages and it's a useful form of contact?

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#766

From: Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: SPEED LIMITS [1 Attachment]

elenadesoto

I wholly agree with John, I have seen a LOT of speeding on Rathcoole Gardens and Avenue, horrifying when you consider how many children live here. I hate to pour oil on troubled waters, but why not speed bumps? they're everywhere anyway. It would also spoil the fun of the stupid little twerp on the scooter who has once again taken to regaling us with his noise.

Elena

--- On Fri, 11/12/09, John Harding <jl.harding@...> wrote:

From: John Harding <jl.harding@...>
Subject: [LocalWatch] SPEED LIMITS [1 Attachment]
To: LocalWatch@...
Date: Friday, 11 December, 2009, 23:51

Hi Everyone,

I attach something that I think we might think about re our small complex of roads. 20mph seems reasonable and it amazes me the speed some people bomb around at round here - very dangerous. What does anyone think and how might one go about applying to get a limit applied to MORRSH if thought necessary?

John

ps and what about a small campaign to extend our e-mail membership - no-one's joined for ages and it's a useful form of contact?

#767

From: Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:23 pm
Subject: Re: SPEED LIMITS (and kickstarting MORRSH)

burglary_bill

I think there are a very small handful of morons who drive at ridiculous speeds up and down Rathcoole Ave and Gardens. I would certainly be in favour of 20mph limit but I don't think it will make a jot of difference to such people who have no problem flouting a 30mph limit or any other limit.

Coincidentally, there have been several recent discussions about kick-starting MORRSH. I'll knock up a draft flier, circulate it and seek views.
(all recent comments have been included below for the benefit of non-yahoo group people, who are in the bcc field)
Bruno
?
I wholly agree with John, I have seen a LOT of speeding on Rathcoole Gardens and Avenue, horrifying when you consider how many children?live here. I hate to pour oil on troubled waters, but why not speed bumps? they're everywhere anyway. It would also spoil the fun of the stupid little twerp on the scooter who has once again taken to regaling us with his noise.
?Elena

We're not aware of much speeding and I'd be inclined to say that imposing additional speed limits would be unnecessary and rather expensive, not to mention requiring more ugly street furniture and (perish the thought) the possibility of spped bumps - aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
Tamzin

I can't say I have noticed a lot of speeding but then we don't have much through traffic in Oakley! 20mph seems more than sufficient - I imagine one would write to the relevant council department. If there seems to be a consensus one could mention this when contacting them.

Regarding membership if someone could manage to draft a simple flyer with details of the group I would be happy to print enough for say Oakley and Harvey Road and distribute them - any volunteers for other roads?
regards
Julian

Here's the page from the Council website:

http://www.haringey.gov.uk/index/environment_and_transport/roadsandstreets/roadsafety.htm

Hi Everyone,
I attach something that I think we might think about re our small complex of roads. 20mph seems reasonable and it amazes me the speed some people bomb around at round here - very dangerous. What does anyone think and how might one go about applying to get a limit applied to MORRSH if thought necessary?
John
ps and what about a small campaign to extend our e-mail membership - no-one's joined for ages and it's a useful form of contact?

#768

From: Hattie Coppard <hattie@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:59 am
Subject: Re: SPEED LIMITS [1 Attachment]

hattie_coppard

www.experimentalplaygrounds.blogspot.com

Hi all
Good idea to extend the membership - perhaps a leaflet drop in the new year? - I'm happy to do Rathcoole Gardens
In the meantime have a lovely Christmas
Hattie

John Harding wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I attach something that I think we might think about re our small complex of roads. 20mph seems reasonable and it amazes me the speed some people bomb around at round here - very dangerous. What does anyone think and how might one go about applying to get a limit applied to MORRSH if thought necessary?

John

ps and what about a small campaign to extend our e-mail membership - no-one's joined for ages and it's a useful form of contact?

HATTIE COPPARD
Director

Snug & Outdoor
www.snugandoutdoor.co.uk

T: 020 8374 2176
M: 07834 850905

F: 0870 706 4654

127 RATHCOOLE GARDENS

LONDON N8 9PH

ENGLAND

#769

From: Elena Soto <elenadesoto@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: SPEED LIMITS

elenadesoto

Good idea Hattie, I can share Rathcoole Gardens with you if you like.

Ditto re Christmas, have a good one.

Elena

--- On Mon, 14/12/09, Hattie Coppard <hattie@...> wrote:

From: Hattie Coppard <hattie@...>
Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] SPEED LIMITS
To: LocalWatch@...
Date: Monday, 14 December, 2009, 9:59

Hi all
Good idea to extend the membership - perhaps a leaflet drop in the new year? - I'm happy to do Rathcoole Gardens
In the meantime have a lovely Christmas
Hattie

John Harding wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I attach something that I think we might think about re our small complex of roads. 20mph seems reasonable and it amazes me the speed some people bomb around at round here - very dangerous. What does anyone think and how might one go about applying to get a limit applied to MORRSH if thought necessary?

John

ps and what about a small campaign to extend our e-mail membership - no-one's joined for ages and it's a useful form of contact?

--

HATTIE COPPARD
Director

Snug & Outdoor
www.snugandoutdoor. co.uk

www.experimentalpla ygrounds. blogspot. com

T: 020 8374 2176
M: 07834 850905

F: 0870 706 4654

127 RATHCOOLE GARDENS

LONDON N8 9PH

ENGLAND

#770

From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: SPEED LIMITS (and kickstarting MORRSH)

j.harding63

Dear Bruno, et al,

Belated response - yes, good idea to give MORRSH a kick-start. There are two or three volunteers to hand out leaflets. I'll get Kenny to write a guide to getting onto Yahoo, and maybe we could knock something up to be printed and circulated early in the New Year?

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Bruno Dore

To: Localwatch

Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:23 PM

Subject: Re: [LocalWatch] SPEED LIMITS (and kickstarting MORRSH)

I think there are a very small handful of morons who drive at ridiculous speeds up and down Rathcoole Ave and Gardens. I would certainly be in favour of 20mph limit but I don't think it will make a jot of difference to such people who have no problem flouting a 30mph limit or any other limit.

Coincidentally, there have been several recent discussions about kick-starting MORRSH. I'll knock up a draft flier, circulate it and seek views.
(all recent comments have been included below for the benefit of non-yahoo group people, who are in the bcc field)
Bruno
?
I wholly agree with John, I have seen a LOT of speeding on Rathcoole Gardens and Avenue, horrifying when you consider how many children?live here. I hate to pour oil on troubled waters, but why not speed bumps? they're everywhere anyway. It would also spoil the fun of the stupid little twerp on the scooter who has once again taken to regaling us with his noise.
?Elena

We're not aware of much speeding and I'd be inclined to say that imposing additional speed limits would be unnecessary and rather expensive, not to mention requiring more ugly street furniture and (perish the thought) the possibility of spped bumps - aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
Tamzin

I can't say I have noticed a lot of speeding but then we don't have much through traffic in Oakley! 20mph seems more than sufficient - I imagine one would write to the relevant council department. If there seems to be a consensus one could mention this when contacting them.

Regarding membership if someone could manage to draft a simple flyer with details of the group I would be happy to print enough for say Oakley and Harvey Road and distribute them - any volunteers for other roads?
regards
Julian

Here's the page from the Council website:

http://www.haringey.gov.uk/index/environment_and_transport/roadsandstreets/roadsafety.htm

Hi Everyone,
I attach something that I think we might think about re our small complex of roads. 20mph seems reasonable and it amazes me the speed some people bomb around at round here - very dangerous. What does anyone think and how might one go about applying to get a limit applied to MORRSH if thought necessary?
John
ps and what about a small campaign to extend our e-mail membership - no-one's joined for ages and it's a useful form of contact?

#771

From: "John Harding" <jl.harding@...>
Date: Thu Jan 7, 2010 2:17 pm
Subject: getting started up

j.harding63

Hi Everyone,

Discussions took place prior to Xmas concerning re-juvenating the Yahoo site. Now's the time to start doing things, I would imagine. Bruno said he'd draft a new circular, and Kenny might add a 'fools easy guide' to getting oneself logged onto the Yahoo Site to add to the circular/flyer/newsheet. Then we might stroll around posting the result? I can look after the Yahoo site in terms of deleting 'dead' e-mail addresses etc and I'm happy to post some flyers.

Also - practical and inevitable query - does anyone know a local plumber who might fix a tap??? Or a useful firm that would do same??

John

#772

From: Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...>
Date: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:08 am
Subject: True Grit

burglary_bill

Dear all,

See below for somewhat belated action by the People’s Republic of Haringey re the diabolical state of our roads and pavements (stifled guffaws all round).

As it happens, I did see a gritter at the bottom of Rathcoole today. Might have summat to do with a good duffing up meted out to local councillors by at least one of our fellows recently.

Bruno

PS Draft MORRSH relaunch flier is on the slipway (honest) but I have been struggling with hibernation tendencies.

------ Forwarded Message
From: Errol Reid <errol38@...>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:24:44 +0000
To: <bruno.dore@...>
Subject: FW: Grit Update from Martin Newton Opposition spokesperson who met Niall Bolger

Dear Bruno,
Please find attached update for your information .
You can select what you wish to tell residents in your area
Yours sincerely
Errol

From: errol38@...
To: jennifer_bell@...; ianbruce@...; penny.steed@...; lesley.ramm@...; jrosser@...; treforjones.1@...; mark.donkin@...; bracewells@...; monika@...
Subject: Grit Update from Martin Newton Opposition spokesperson who met Niall Bolger
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:02:27 +0000

Dear All,

After a meeting with Niall Bolger today he provided us with some information about the current situation with the icy roads and gritting:

Grit ordered on 21st Dec – order was not fulfilled
Grit bins should be replenished 3-4 times a day
Residents are able to use grit from grit bins
Direct contact is continuing with known vulnerable residents and meals on wheels services to ensure services are continuing
Emergency planning – a ��lessons learned¹ process will take place after the cold snap and a draft winter service plan will go to cabinet in March
Recycling services are currently 1 week behind
Refuse collections are also behind schedules – Niall Bolger will provide us with up-to-date information on this shortly
Enterprise staff have been diverted to clear roads and pavements
Harringay ladder roads – in liaison with the Police and in reaction to residents wishes roads were closed. Re-opened on Friday.
Local shops will not face litigation if they clear paths outside their premises

Hope this answers some of your questions.

Best Wishes
Errol Reid

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From: Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...>
Date: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:11 pm
Subject: FW: True Grit of the Lone Shoveller!

burglary_bill

I wasn’t going to mention this for fear of being sued. But Viv asked me to forward it, so here you are. (it was one side of Harvey Road as well).

I can’t do any gardening I this climate, so what else is there to do?

Bruno

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From: Viv Fogel <vivwynant@...>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:47:30 +0000
To: Bruno Dore <bruno.dore@...>, Chris & Victoria <chris@...>, Localwatch <LocalWatch@...>
Subject: True Grit of the Lone Shoveller!

I want to say a big thank you to Bruno for his True Grit and amazing community-mindedness - spotted on Sunday chivalrously shovelling snow along the whole of one side of Rathcoole Gardens. I really appreciated it coming back yesterday from work - having already slipped on Weston Park!

So thank you Bruno. You're a star!

Next time - send an email out - so that some other able bodies might be able to come out with their spades and join you!

Happy New Year,

Viv

Vivienne Fogel
105a Rathcoole Gdns
London N8 9PH

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On 12 Jan 2010, at 01:08, Bruno Dore wrote:

Dear all,

See below for somewhat belated action by the People’s Republic of Haringey re the diabolical state of our roads and pavements (stifled guffaws all round).

As it happens, I did see a gritter at the bottom of Rathcoole today. Might have summat to do with a good duffing up meted out to local councillors by at least one of our fellows recently.

Bruno

PS Draft MORRSH relaunch flier is on the slipway (honest) but I have been struggling with hibernation tendencies.

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From: Errol Reid <errol38@...>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:24:44 +0000
To: <bruno.dore@...>
Subject: FW: Grit Update from Martin Newton Opposition spokesperson who met Niall Bolger

Dear Bruno,
Please find attached update for your information .
You can select what you wish to tell residents in your area
Yours sincerely
Errol

Grit ordered on 21st Dec – order was not fulfilled
Grit bins should be replenished 3-4 times a day
Residents are able to use grit from grit bins
Direct contact is continuing with known vulnerable residents and meals on wheels services to ensure services are continuing
Emergency planning – a ��lessons learned¹ process will take place after the cold snap and a draft winter service plan will go to cabinet in March
Recycling services are currently 1 week behind
Refuse collections are also behind schedules – Niall Bolger will provide us with up-to-date information on this shortly
Enterprise staff have been diverted to clear roads and pavements
Harringay ladder roads – in liaison with the Police and in reaction to residents wishes roads were closed. Re-opened on Friday.
Local shops will not face litigation if they clear paths outside their premises

Hope this answers some of your questions.

Best Wishes
Errol Reid

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