Hi all

this email is regarding the web site for Manchester Permaculture Network we would like to build,
maybe using a computer software called Drupal.

maybe we could:

1- meet one day for a couple of hours to talk about what we wanna achieve with the website
(see old web site - drupal or blog - accessibility - design website architecture - etc

2- meet us again on a Saturday for a heavy session to build the website.

Robin (our Drupal expert) do you play football every Monday? Could you meet on Monday 12th of January at the Milk Room
8pm to just to talk about the web site? (If not we could meet Tues 13th?) And then spend a Saturday several hours to build the website?
Apparently there is an old half build website made on Drupal that we could build in, if that it is easy,
otherwise we could start from scratch, if we prefer.
The milk room is between the Corner House and the Red Breaks, Hulme. It is very much in the centre.
I don't know if it has wi fi.

Adele: has wi-fi the milk room?

What people thinks about meeting us for website session at the milk room:

Monday 12th JAN09 8-10pm
Saturday 17th JAN09 11-4pm

If we had something ready, we could launch the website at the feast on Saturday 24th of January.
We could use a projector to show what we have done until then and show how to upload content to the web site.

Regards

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Àgata Alcañiz

www.agataalcaniz.net
www.aartdesign.net
www.environmentalperformance.info




<-----Original Message----->
>From: Rob S [Rob@...]
>Sent: 12/21/2008 12:44:32 PM
>To: robin.gower@...;agataalcaniz@...
>Cc:
>fraz@...;thekeld@...;janechristie1@...;adelemyers@...
>Subject: Re: permaculture web site
>
>Hi Robin. Thank you for your email.
>
The first thing we need to do is to agree on
>a time and date. Adele and Kelda thought January 19th, but Robin cannot make it
>on that day until 8.00pm, which is a bit late imho. Agata however, would prefer
>doing it on a Saturday as this would give us more time.
>
>It is difficult to move forward until we have decided on a date. My suggestions
>therefore -
>
>Here is an of the top of my head list of essential things that need to be done
>in order for the workshop to work:
>
>- decide time and date, plus check with other occupants of Milk Room that this
>is ok by them (Agata + Adele + others?)
>- test hardware, either by checking that a hub works with the orange livebox, or
>figuring out how to make 4 laptops work directly from it (which is what it says
>it can do on the website) (??)
>- publicise event (??)
>- install new drupal web site with new temporary domain (Fraser)
>- make all the content of old web site available, either online or on disk, so
>that it can be cut and paste into new drupal web site (Fraser)
>- facilitators to get together before work shop and do some more detailed
>planing (Rob + Robin)
>- create a drupal theme, including the manchester permaculture banner from old
>web site (Robin?)
>- set up information architecture for new web site (Rob)
>- install modules on new web site (Rob + Fraser) (+ Robin?)
>- sort out access to Milk Room on night, plus hospitality (refreshments etc) (??)
>- someone(s) to get in early on the day, to set up hardware, including livebox /
>hub + facilitators laptop + projector (??)
>
>Cheers .. Rob
>
>
>
>At 21:57 20/12/2008, Robin Gower wrote:
>
>All,
>
>Sorry for the delay in responding, I had a busy week.
>
>I'm still happy to help. Jan 19 is fine but I play football in Whalley range
>until 7 so I'd probably not be able to get to the workshop until 8. Where is
>the Milk Room - (stupid question but) do they have wifi/ power-sockets? I'll
>bring my laptop along too.
>
>
>I've answered specific questions below but I'd like to ask a couple myself
>before we start:
>Do we have a list of requirements? There's usually a sequence of events like -
>ideas -> specification -> install -> add content -> administrate. I seem to
>have arrived mid-way through this sequence. The 19th could be about generating
>ideas or training but probably not both (as Rob pointed out, once we've got the
>spec, modules need to be installed which won't be fun to watch nor necessary to
>learn). You may think you're already satisfied with the spec - I'm just checking.
>Are we definitely going down the drupal route? Drupal is a powerful bit of
>software but it's not as user friendly as something simpler like Wordpress.
>If you're unsure about either of the above then we could instead use the 19th to
>explore the options together - I'll take you through some other sites/ platforms
>I use/ others can take us to their favourite sites and we can discuss ideas for
>the spec and find out a bit about the different technology platforms.
>If, on the other hand, you can answer yes to both of the above then we can get
>stuck in right away!
>
>
>Rob, I understand how themes work but to be honest I've not got the eye for
>graphic design! I usually just tweak one of the many themes available online.
>I'd recommend something basic with perhaps a logo/ photos. The structure of the
>blocks (i.e. requirements) will influence our decision over themes. Regarding
>modules we'll probably need a wysiwyg editor like FCKeditor (the install is a
>bit of a pain as it uses third party libraries), perhaps one or two of the image
>modules, maybe a calendar or feed aggregator (as you've got on your site), I'd
>also recommend some of the tagging modules (I think I'm using tagadelic but
>taxonomy may suffice) - again this is quite an important set of decisions that
>depend upon the spec.
>
>Agata/ Fraser, If we plan it properly, and everyone has a computer, then we can
>probably make good progress in a couple of hours. Naturally this sort of
>session could continue expanding to fill whatever time is available!
>
>I suggest a basic agenda to get people up and running:
>intro to how drupal puts pages together (nodes and blocks)
>how to create content (new nodes, adding text/ links/ pictures, publishing
>settings etc)
>how to administer content (find, edit, delete nodes)
>If there's time/ interest we could also cover some more advanced topics such as:
>tagging
>feeds
>modules
>I look forward to meeting you all,
>
>
>Robin
>
>2008/12/17 Rob S < Rob@...>
>
>Hi.
>
>
>At 15:51 17/12/2008, you wrote:
>
>Hi agata, and friends...
>
>
>
>> 1- Meeting on MONDAY 19th to learn Drupal... in a couple of hours?.
>
>> Is it not a bit ambitious? It would not be better a Saturday morning
>
>> and spend 4 hours at least?
>
>
>i'm happy either way. i don't know how long it will take. we're fast
>
>learners though ;)
>
>rob and robin, what do you think about that?
>
>
>
>
>We could do 7.00 - 10.00 which is 3 hours. In fact I would happily do 7.00 -
>11.00. Like Fraser I'm not bothered and would happily do Saturday ... I didn't
>pick the 19th.
>
>
>
>> 3- When was decided to purchase ManchesterPermacultureNetwork.org.uk?
>
>>
>
>
>I decided to buy it on Saturday. manchesterpermaculture.info was £8 for
>
>1 year, and that one was £4 for 3 years, so i just went for it. As it
>
>
>is our plan to continue to use manchesterpermaculture.net , it seemed as
>
>good as any other for our needs. If people want something else, no
>
>worries, it was only £4, i just wanted to be able to get on with the
>
>
>drupal stuff without faffing around waiting for the domain owners to
>
>reply to me.
>
>
>I intend to mail the network about this as soon as the registration and
>
>DNS goes through proplerly, any day now.
>
>
>
>
>Buying this domain is a temporary solution. If you have a look at my email here:
>http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Manchester_Permaculture_Network/message/400 it
>explains why we had to do this. Hopefully we will be able to revert back to the
>normal domain name pretty soon. (Incidentally we owe £24 to d21 Mediaworks for
>ManchesterPermaculture.Net and need to figure out where that is coming from.)
>
>
>The reason I did not send the email to the whol
>
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