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#784 From: Rob@...
Date: Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:35 am
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Content] Horticulture]
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Hi Kat .. Rob here .. how are you? It sounds like you're having a good
time. I'll email your message to the permaculture mailing list. DIG have
just got some land, but you'll already know that. Maybe they'll be looking
for growers next year? Glebelands is under new management .. a different
Adam - you could ask them. Then there is Unicorn, who have just taken on a
sizable bit of land. Also I met a women with several acres of organic out
towards PArtington .. I'll try and dig out her business card.

Also if you come back next year, I can put you in touch with quite a few
funded growing projects, working with schools / community groups etc.

Manchester ermaculture does not have a mailing list as such. You are
welcome to join the Yahoo group (from the front page of the web site), but
it is unlikely that you'll find work through it.

Stay well .. Rob :-)


> Katharine sent a message using the contact form at
> http://manchesterpermaculturenetwork.howcreative.co.uk/contact.
>
My reason for contacting you is to ask you if you know of any
horticulturally-related opportunities in the Manchester-area, as of summer
2010.&nbsp; Currently I am training at Kew Gardens, working in the
Tropical Nursery and Display Houses with conservation collections.

I have a year training at RHS Garden Rosemoor in Devon, gaining experience
in hardy ornamental horticulture and organic food production.&nbsp; I am
thinking of moving to Manchester once this course finishes in July, so I
though it wise to put my feelers out now.

If you would add me to your mailing list and let me know about any working
or volunteering opportunities, I would really appreciate it.

Many thanks, and happy holidays
K.Cook

#783 From: franco bevilacqua <franar1968@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:58 pm
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buone feste

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#782 From: Helen Starr-Keddle <helenstarrkeddle@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:06 pm
Subject: Sustainable Christmas Dinner cooking workshop
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The supermarket ingredients that go into an average Christmas dinner will have travelled a combined distance of over 49,000 miles before they even get to our plates!
 
The Christmas dinner is not sustainable. But there is an alternative. As part of the 'I'm Dreaming of a Green Christmas' campaign, we will show you how to create a delicious, locally sourced vegetarian Christmas feast on a budget. For just £5 you will be equipped with the skills and knowledge to cook up a storm this festive season. With recipe sheets to take away and a yummy meal and non-alcoholic apple gluhwein to be enjoyed at the end!
 
Thursday 17th December, Chorlton High School 5-8pm

Don't miss out on this unique and practical workshop that is sure to be great fun! To book your place e-mail ali.thomas@afsl. org.uk or call 07825161167



#781 From: Rob@...
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:37 pm
Subject: Rob has forwarded a page to you from Manchester Permaculture Dot Net
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Rob has forwarded this page from the Manchester Permaculture Dot Net web site.

Message from Sender:

Hi I'm forwarding this event for Andrew, about an upcoming Permaculture Network event at the end of January. Cheers .. Rob

Our Aquaponic Polytunnel

A workshop all about Aquaponics - the art of growing fish and vegetables together in perfect synergy.

What to expect:

We'll start with an intro to Aquaponics, why you use it, some of the advantages and disadvantages and the different types and sizes of systems you can build.



#780 From: Niels Corfield <mudguard@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:11 pm
Subject: Alpine Garden of Eden proves Mother Nature knows best,Story by Julia Ferguson
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Article on Sepp Holzer

Abstract

RAMINGSTEIN, Austria - In the coldest part of Austria, a
farmer is turning conventional wisdom on its head by
growing a veritable Garden of Eden full of tropical
plants in the open on his steep Alpine pastures. Amid
average annual temperatures of a mere 4.2 degrees
Celsius (39.5 Fahrenheit), Sepp Holzer grows everything
from apricots to eucalyptus, figs to kiwi fruit, peaches
to wheat at an altitude of between 1,000 and 1,500
metres (3,300 and 4,900 feet). Once branded a fool, fined
and threatened with imprisonment for defying Austrian
regulations that dictate what is planted where, he is now
feted worldwide for creating the only functioning
"permaculture" farm in Europe. Permaculture, an
abbreviation of permanent culture, is the development
of agricultural ecosystems which are complete and selfsustaining.
"Once planted, I do absolutely

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#779 From: Rob@...
Date: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:42 pm
Subject: Rocket Stove event and future plans
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Hi,

Thanks to Agnes for organising the rocket stove event on Monday night ..
great job mate! Also many thanks to Wi Jong and the others for giving us
access to the Madlab .. what an excellent space .. here's hoping we can
use this place much more in the future :-)

We had a bit of a discussion following Agnes' rocket stove talk, and we
have a schedule for the next four months, and are playing around with some
ideas for future events:

December 21st .. winter solstice ding dong .. at the madlab, live
accoustic music, food, booze, fun, etc .. tbc

Last Monday Jan - visit to Andrew's aquaponics system in Trafford, details
to be circulated soon

Last Monday Feb - Manchester Permacultue planning meeting

Last Monday March - Manchester Permaculture and Transition Town Manchester
combined film night. Screening Rob Hopkins new film, plus Farm For A
Future (all details to be confirmed)

Also the following ideas were mentioned as possibilities for the future:

- a food 'hack' event
- talk on making fabrics from nettles
- talk on and demonstation of water fuel cell
- DIY wind turbines (Liverpool permaculture)
- Web site workshop
- forest gardening fun at Birchfields
- Day long rocket stove construction day

The above ideas will be firmed up more at the planning meeting in February.

Cheers ... Rob

#778 From: Rob@...
Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 3:12 pm
Subject: [Content] Birchfields Park and 'Christmas Market
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Hi. If you want to respond to this questionnaire pls send replies directly
to "CHRISTOPHER JAUME" <christopherjaume@...> . Thx .. Rob




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Subject: RE: [Content] Birchfields Park and 'Christmas Market'
From:    "CHRISTOPHER JAUME" <christopherjaume@...>
Date:    Wed, December 9, 2009 6:16 am
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Hi there Rob,

Would you be so kind to forward the following email and questionnaire on
to the Manchester Permaculture Network?

Many thanks,
Chris


To the Manchester Permaculture Network,

My name is Christopher Jaume, and I am a 5th year student at the
Manchester School of Architecture. Continuing with my project, I am now
looking at the network of allotments and community gardens across
Manchester.  After carrying out a small survey in the neighbourhoods
around Birchfields Park, I learnt that many people are interested in
growing their own produce, but do not have the access to or know the
whereabouts of facilities, or the technical know how.

Myself and another colleague from the University are looking to propose a
scheme (in time for our Christmas Market), involving the siting of 'urban
agriculture' projects, in varying scales across parts of Manchester, to
enhance the existing network, relieve pressure from the allotment waiting
lists, and promote the 'grow your own' ethos.  These schemes may take the
form of a simple starter kit to use on a windowsill at home, up to a
larger structural form, with horizontally stacked landscapes.  I shall be
extending my website - www.driftingmap.com - to keep a record of the data
gathered, progression of the proposals etc.  The proposals will be
presented on a stall at our Architectural Christmas Market on Friday the
18th December, 10am-6pm at the Manchester School of Architecture, ROOM
602, Chatham Tower, All Saints Campus, Cavendish Street, Manchester, M15
6BR.  Please feel free to drop in and have a look/glass of mulled wine!

The next step now is to gather information from the experts in the field –
yourself as a member of the network, and any other regular
gardeners/allotment owners you know!

If you would be so kind to fill out the (very quick!) questionnaire found
at the bottom of this email, and forward on to others to complete, I would
be very grateful indeed.  Once individual questionnaires have been
completed they can either be emailed straight back to me or submitted
through the website
http://www.driftingmap.com/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=1&Itemid\
=3

Best regards,

Chris
07738226776
5th year student, MSAp, Manchester School of Architecture

Growing Projects Questionnaire
Please complete the following 5 questions, and email back to
christopherjaume@... , or submit through:
http://www.driftingmap.com/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=1&Itemid\
=3
, with the Message Subject 'Growing Projects'

Thank you for your help!

1. Please describe the type of growing project(s) you're involved with
(community garden / permaculture network / allotments / private land).




2. What services do the growing project(s) you're involved with have (in
terms of access, water supply, security, composting facilities etc)?




3. Are the project(s) lacking in any services at all / ideally what would
you like to see there?




4. Are any aspects of the growing project(s) actively promoted to the
public?  (Eg. are there open days, open to all projects, involvement with
schools etc)?  Please give reasons/opinions why for your answer.




5.  Are there any areas within Manchester that you feel would benefit from
a community growing project?  If so, please describe with reasons why.




6. Any other comments?

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#777 From: agnes beviz <abeviz@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 7:04 pm
Subject: Rocket Stove workshop reminder
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Hi!

Just a quick reminder that the Rocket Stove workshop is happening tomorrow at Madlab, 36 - 40 Edge Street, M4 8HN, opposite The Common. 6:30pm start and please bring food to share as usual..

More details on the Madlab site at
http://madlab.org.uk/content/rocket-stove-workshop/


See you there!

Agnes



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#776 From: Rob@...
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 5:32 pm
Subject: Birchfields Park and 'Christmas Market
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Hello this also came through the web site, please respond to
christopherjaume@... if it s of any interest to you. Thanks .. Rob

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Subject: [Content] Birchfields Park and 'Christmas Market'
From:    christopherjaume@...
Date:    Thu, December 3, 2009 3:57 am
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Christopher Jaume sent a message using the contact form at
http://manchesterpermaculturenetwork.howcreative.co.uk/contact.

Dear 'Manchester Permaculture Network'

My name is Christopher Jaume, a 5th year architecture student from the
Manchester School of Architecture. After hearing about you through a
Friend of Birchfields Park, I am writing to let you know about the work I
have been carrying out in Birchfields Park over the last few weeks, and
the  Manchester School of Architecture's upcoming 'Christmas Market.'

I have based my last few weeks university work within the park,
interviewing  members of the public (and a few of the Friends of
Birchfields Park),  ascertaining what it is they love about the park, and
getting them to draw
their own maps of the park, highlighting areas they love/hate, the routes
they take through etc. For a more detailed explanation,
please take a look at the website I have set up,
http://www.driftingmap.com It may be of some interest to you.

On December 18th at 10am the Manchester School of Architecture is hosting
a  workshop, and I would like to extend a warm invitation to anyone who
may be  interested from the Manchester Permaculture Network. The 5th year
students, including myself, shall be presenting our work to date and our
proposals for our selected sites within Manchester. What with mine
being heavily involved with the park and the siting
of permacultural sites throughout the city, I thought it may
be of some interest to you.

Please let me know if you are able to attend, and feel free to bring
guests!

Kind regards,
Christopher Jaume
5th year student, MSAp, Manchester School of Architecture

#775 From: Rob@...
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 5:27 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [Content] Request for help]
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Hello, this came through the web site. Please reply to
rosaholnezz405@... if you want to help .. Rob

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Subject: [Content] Request for help
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Date:    Thu, December 3, 2009 10:17 am
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maxine  sent a message using the contact form at
http://manchesterpermaculturenetwork.howcreative.co.uk/contact.

Hi MPN, I want to create a permaculture garden but I need help with the
design and maybe some of the work.&nbsp; Is there anyone out there in the
Moss-Side (near Withington Rd) area of the city who can help.

Pls get in touch via email address above.
Thanks
Maxine

#774 From: Rob@...
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:54 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [Treesponsibility] Pruning, Grafting and Coppicing courses in Hebden Bridge.]
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Subject: [Treesponsibility] Pruning, Grafting and Coppicing courses in
Hebden Bridge.
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Date:    Thu, November 26, 2009 2:45 pm
To:      "trees mailing list" <treesponsibility@...>
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Calder Food Hub Courses for 2010


Calder Food Hub exists mainly to promote local food production and
distribution in Calderdale. It is also a link to local permaculture
projects.

They have organised some courses for next year which may interest some
of you.


23rd January : Pruning Fruit. Clifford from the Northern Fruit Group,
who's pruning skills were highly praised a the recent Apple Day in
Callis Gardens returns to the Calder Valley to share his skills and
knowledge. He will be at Crimsworth Farm, where Treesponsibility have
recently planted an orchard and some trees for coppicing.


27th February : Coppicing Day. Following on from the over-subscribed
coppicing day in November, the Hub is linking up with Knott Wood
Coppicers again to run a skill share day looking at coppicing. Focusing
on coppicing for fuel and also coppicing hazel for poles, this promises
to be another popular date. Book early to avoid disappointment.


Sunday 28th March : Grafting Course. Grafting is the art of propagating
fruit trees. Scions from selected trees are joined on to rootstocks to
create healthy trees of known provenance. Many fruit seeds will not
"come true" you cannot plant a cox's seed and expect a cox's tree. This
simple technique can be learned in a day and allows to create as many
fruit trees as you want very cheaply.


All courses run from 10am to 4pm, and will be at different venues around
Hebden Bridge, details available on booking.

Costs £25 includes a hot lunch and transport from the Train Station, if
required. (£5 discount for Calder Food Hub members)

Call Kath on 01422 846540 to book or for more information.



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#773 From: Rob@...
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:39 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [Content] A talk on permaculture]
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Hi, Carol Roseware is looking for somebody to do a talk on permaculture in
Ordsall in Feruary / March, probably in the day time. See email below for
more info. Anyone interested please reply directly to her, not to me. Ta
.. Rob


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Subject: [Content] A talk on permaculture
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Carol Rosewarne sent a message using the contact form at
http://manchesterpermaculturenetwork.howcreative.co.uk/contact.

<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I'm working with a group to do a small project on growing your own and
development education. I wondered if anyone would be able to come and do a
talk on what permaculture is, local projects etc.</p>
<p>If you are able to that would be great.&nbsp; Many thanks, Carol</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>

#772 From: Joshua Steiner <josh.steiner@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:21 pm
Subject: Sustainable Allotments - workshop providers needed
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Hi all

AfSL have some funding to provide a series of workshops for Salford Youth Offending Service at their allotment and we are looking for local freelancers to offer their services.

The sessions will be 3-4 hr practical workshops relating to sustainable food choices and allotment design and management. Each one will be attended by groups of around 5 young offenders and one or two key workers. Ideas might include permacultural design, soil improvement, organics, seasonal cooking etc.

If you are interested please email me the name of the workshop/s you might like to run with a two sentence outline and costing by next Tuesday 2nd Dec. CRBs preferred

Thanks

Josh

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Hulme, Manchester, M15 5BJ
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#771 From: adele myers <adelemyers@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:07 pm
Subject: RE: Rocket Stove Workshop
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they will have one this evening  so will ask

adele



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Subject: RE: [Manchester_Permaculture_Network] Rocket Stove Workshop
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Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 2:51 PM



Hi!

I just spoke to them last week and they said they didn't have a projector but were looking into to buying one. It probably won't be there in time for the workshop though.. You can still ask in case there's an update! :)

Thanks,

Agnes


To: Manchester_Permaculture_Network@...
From: adelemyers@...
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:31:13 -0800
Subject: Re: [Manchester_Permaculture_Network] Rocket Stove Workshop

 
I believe the mad lab have this type of kit . I am going there this eve so will ask if we can use it?
adele

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From: agnes beviz <abeviz@hotmail. co.uk>
Subject: [Manchester_ Permaculture_ Network] Rocket Stove Workshop
To: manchester_permacul ture_network@ yahoogroups. co.uk
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:15 PM



Hi!

Realised I forgot to include the address for Madlab where the workshop will be held, it's: 33 - 40 Edge Street, M4 8HN. It's opposite the Common in the Northern Quarter.

Does anyone have a projector which can be use for the workshop? I remember we used one at a previous event... I also don't have a laptop, so it would be great if someone who was coming anyway could bring their laptop to run a slide show from.

Thanks,

Agnes


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#770 From: agnes beviz <abeviz@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:51 pm
Subject: RE: Rocket Stove Workshop
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Hi!

I just spoke to them last week and they said they didn't have a projector but were looking into to buying one. It probably won't be there in time for the workshop though.. You can still ask in case there's an update! :)

Thanks,

Agnes


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:31:13 -0800
Subject: Re: [Manchester_Permaculture_Network] Rocket Stove Workshop

 
I believe the mad lab have this type of kit . I am going there this eve so will ask if we can use it?
adele

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Subject: [Manchester_Permaculture_Network] Rocket Stove Workshop
To: manchester_permaculture_network@yahoogroups.co.uk
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:15 PM



Hi!

Realised I forgot to include the address for Madlab where the workshop will be held, it's: 33 - 40 Edge Street, M4 8HN. It's opposite the Common in the Northern Quarter.

Does anyone have a projector which can be use for the workshop? I remember we used one at a previous event... I also don't have a laptop, so it would be great if someone who was coming anyway could bring their laptop to run a slide show from.

Thanks,

Agnes


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#769 From: adele myers <adelemyers@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: Rocket Stove Workshop
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I believe the mad lab have this type of kit . I am going there this eve so will ask if we can use it?
adele

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Subject: [Manchester_Permaculture_Network] Rocket Stove Workshop
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Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:15 PM



Hi!

Realised I forgot to include the address for Madlab where the workshop will be held, it's: 33 - 40 Edge Street, M4 8HN. It's opposite the Common in the Northern Quarter.

Does anyone have a projector which can be use for the workshop? I remember we used one at a previous event... I also don't have a laptop, so it would be great if someone who was coming anyway could bring their laptop to run a slide show from.

Thanks,

Agnes


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#768 From: agnes beviz <abeviz@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: Rocket Stove Workshop
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Hi!

Realised I forgot to include the address for Madlab where the workshop will be held, it's: 33 - 40 Edge Street, M4 8HN. It's opposite the Common in the Northern Quarter.

Does anyone have a projector which can be use for the workshop? I remember we used one at a previous event... I also don't have a laptop, so it would be great if someone who was coming anyway could bring their laptop to run a slide show from.

Thanks,

Agnes


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#767 From: hoon seong teo <hoonseongteo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: Organic Growing Workshop Sunday November 29th 1pm - 4pm
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Would love to come. Child friendly? And what about directions to lost plot. Not sure I know where it is. Hoon


From: Helen Starr-Keddle <helenstarrkeddle@...>
To: Manchester_Permaculture_Network@...; sustainablechorlton@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2009 11:17:23
Subject: [Manchester_Permaculture_Network] Organic Growing Workshop Sunday November 29th 1pm - 4pm

 

Hello

We would like to invite you to a free workshop on organic growing that we are doing at The Lost Plot community allotment project.

Getting started on organic growing
Learn about Preparation, Planning, Layout, Rotation, Fertility,Crops.
1pm - 4pm
Sunday 29th November

The course will be delivered by Martin Oldham, Secretary of the Southern Allotment Society and Chairman of AMAS who has a wealth of experience in growing on Manchester soil!

If you are interested please reserve a space with myself via email (on my afsl account below, rather than replying to my yahoo one) or phone.

PLEASE NOTE SPACES ARE LIMITED AND WILL BE GIVEN ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVED BASIS.

Many thanks

Helen Starr-Keddle
helen.starr- keddle@afsl. org.uk
Sustainability Coordinator for Communities
Action for Sustainable Living
St Wilfrid's Enterprise Centre, Royce Road, Hulme, M15 5BJ
Tel: 0845 634 4510 Web: www.afsl.org. uk

Action for Sustainable Living, winners of the Guardian Charity Awards 2008!





#766 From: zoë rozar <s.rozar@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: Organic Growing Workshop Sunday November 29th 1pm - 4pm
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Dear Helen,

I would like to attend the course.
Thank you very much :)

xx
Zoë


2009/11/23 Helen Starr-Keddle <helenstarrkeddle@...>
 

Hello

We would like to invite you to a free workshop on organic growing that we are doing at The Lost Plot community allotment project.

Getting started on organic growing
Learn about Preparation, Planning, Layout, Rotation, Fertility,Crops.
1pm - 4pm
Sunday 29th November

The course will be delivered by Martin Oldham, Secretary of the Southern Allotment Society and Chairman of AMAS who has a wealth of experience in growing on Manchester soil!

If you are interested please reserve a space with myself via email (on my afsl account below, rather than replying to my yahoo one) or phone.

PLEASE NOTE SPACES ARE LIMITED AND WILL BE GIVEN ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVED BASIS.

Many thanks

Helen Starr-Keddle
helen.starr-keddle@...
Sustainability Coordinator for Communities
Action for Sustainable Living
St Wilfrid's Enterprise Centre, Royce Road, Hulme, M15 5BJ
Tel: 0845 634 4510 Web: www.afsl.org.uk

Action for Sustainable Living, winners of the Guardian Charity Awards 2008!






#765 From: zoë rozar <s.rozar@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: Organic Growing Workshop Sunday November 29th 1pm - 4pm
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Dear Helen, 

I would like to attend please :)

Zoë Rozar


2009/11/23 Helen Starr-Keddle <helenstarrkeddle@...>
 

Hello

We would like to invite you to a free workshop on organic growing that we are doing at The Lost Plot community allotment project.

Getting started on organic growing
Learn about Preparation, Planning, Layout, Rotation, Fertility,Crops.
1pm - 4pm
Sunday 29th November

The course will be delivered by Martin Oldham, Secretary of the Southern Allotment Society and Chairman of AMAS who has a wealth of experience in growing on Manchester soil!

If you are interested please reserve a space with myself via email (on my afsl account below, rather than replying to my yahoo one) or phone.

PLEASE NOTE SPACES ARE LIMITED AND WILL BE GIVEN ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVED BASIS.

Many thanks

Helen Starr-Keddle
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Action for Sustainable Living
St Wilfrid's Enterprise Centre, Royce Road, Hulme, M15 5BJ
Tel: 0845 634 4510 Web: www.afsl.org.uk

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#764 From: Helen Starr-Keddle <helenstarrkeddle@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:17 am
Subject: Organic Growing Workshop Sunday November 29th 1pm - 4pm
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We would like to invite you to a free workshop on organic growing that we are doing at The Lost Plot community allotment project.

Getting started on organic growing
Learn about Preparation, Planning, Layout, Rotation, Fertility,Crops.
1pm - 4pm
Sunday 29th November

The course will be delivered by Martin Oldham, Secretary of the Southern Allotment Society and Chairman of AMAS who has a wealth of experience in growing on Manchester soil!

If you are interested please reserve a space with myself via email (on my afsl account below, rather than replying to my yahoo one) or phone.

PLEASE NOTE SPACES ARE LIMITED AND WILL BE GIVEN ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVED BASIS.

Many thanks

Helen Starr-Keddle
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Sustainability Coordinator for Communities
Action for Sustainable Living
St Wilfrid's Enterprise Centre, Royce Road, Hulme, M15 5BJ
Tel: 0845 634 4510 Web: www.afsl.org.uk

Action for Sustainable Living, winners of the Guardian Charity Awards 2008!





#763 From: "Jules Puddy" <julespuddy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:05 pm
Subject: THE 5 STAGES OF COLLAPSE, By Dmitry Orlov
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This is about the US but is just as relevant to the 51st state of the USA- otherwise known as the UK;-)

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REPOSTED: THE 5 STAGES OF COLLAPSE, By Dmitry Orlov

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1.
Hello, everyone! The talk you are about to hear is the result of a lengthy process on my part. My specialty is in thinking about and, unfortunately, predicting collapse. My method is based on comparison: I watched the Soviet Union collapse, and, since I am also familiar with the details of the situation in the United States, I can make comparisons between these two failed superpowers.

I was born and grew up in Russia, and I traveled back to Russia repeatedly between the late 80s and mid-90s. This allowed me to gain a solid understanding of the dynamics of the collapse process as it unfolded there. By the mid-90s it was quite clear to me that the US was headed in the same general direction. But I couldn't yet tell how long the process would take, so I sat back and watched.

I am an engineer, and so I naturally tended to look for physical explanations for this process, as opposed to economic, political, or cultural ones. It turns out that one could come up with a very good explanation for the Soviet collapse by following energy flows. What happened in the late 80s is that Russian oil production hit an all-time peak. This coincided with new oil provinces coming on stream in the West - the North Sea in the UK and Norway, and Prudhoe Bay in Alaska - and this suddenly made oil very cheap on the world markets. Soviet revenues plummeted, but their appetite for imported goods remained unchanged, and so they sank deeper and deeper into debt. What doomed them in the end was not even so much the level of debt, but their inability to take on further debt even faster. Once international lenders balked at making further loans, it was game over.

What is happening to the United States now is broadly similar, with certain polarities reversed. The US is an oil importer, burning up 25% of the world's production, and importing over two-thirds of that. Back in mid-90s, when I first started trying to guess the timing of the US collapse, the arrival of the global peak in oil production was scheduled for around the turn of the century. It turned out that the estimate was off by almost a decade, but that is actually fairly accurate as far as such big predictions go. So here it is the high price of oil that is putting the brakes on further debt expansion. As higher oil prices trigger a recession, the economy starts shrinking, and a shrinking economy cannot sustain an ever-expanding level of debt. At some point the ability to finance oil imports will be lost, and that will be the tipping point, after which nothing will ever be the same.

This is not to say that I am a believer in some sort of energy determinism. If the US were to cut its energy consumption by an order of magnitude, it would still be consuming a staggeringly huge amount, but an energy crisis would be averted. But then this country, as we are used to thinking of it, would no longer exist. Oil is what powers this economy. In turn, it is this oil-based economy that makes it possible to maintain and expand an extravagant level of debt. So, a drastic cut in oil consumption would cause a financial collapse (as opposed to the other way around). A few more stages of collapse would follow, which we will discuss next. So, you could see this outlandish appetite for imported oil as a cultural failing, but it is not one that can be undone without causing a great deal of damage. If you like, you can call it "ontological determinism": it has to be what it is, until it is no more.

I don't mean to imply that every part of the country will suddenly undergo a spontaneous existence failure, reverting to an uninhabited wilderness. I agree with John-Michael Greer that the myth of the Apocalypse is not the least bit helpful in coming to terms with the situation. The Soviet experience is very helpful here, because it shows us not only that life goes on, but exactly how it goes on. But I am quite certain that no amount of cultural transformation will help us save various key aspects of this culture: car society, suburban living, big box stores, corporate-run government, global empire, or runaway finance.

On the other hand, I am quite convinced that nothing short of a profound cultural transformation will allow any significant number of us to keep roofs over our heads, and food on our tables. I also believe that the sooner we start letting go of our maladaptive cultural baggage, the more of a chance we will stand. A few years ago, my attitude was to just keep watching events unfold, and keep this collapse thing as some sort of macabre hobby. But the course of events is certainly speeding up, and now my feeling is that the worst we can do is pretend that everything will be fine and simply run out the clock on our current living arrangement, with nothing to replace it once it all starts shutting down.

Now, getting back to my own personal progress in working through these questions, in 2005 I wrote an article called "Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century". Initially, I wanted to publish it on a web site run by Dale Alan Pfeiffer, but, to my surprise, it ended up on From The Wilderness, a much more popular site run by Michael Ruppert, and, to my further astonishment, Mike even paid me for it.

And ever since then, I've been asked the same question, repeatedly: "When? When is the collapse going to occur?" Being a little bit clever, I always decline to give a specific answer, because, you see, as soon as you get one specific prediction wrong, there goes your entire reputation. One reasonable way of thinking about the timing is to say that collapse can occur at different times for different people. You may never quite know that collapse has happened, but you will know that it has happened to you personally, or to your family, or to your town. The big picture may not come together until much later, thanks to the efforts of historians. Individually, we may never know what hit us, and, as a group, we may never agree on any one answer. Look at the collapse of the USSR: some people are still arguing over why exactly it happened.

But sometimes the picture is clearer than we would like. In January of 2008, I published an article on "The Five Stages of Collapse," in which I defined the five stages, and then bravely stated that we are in the midst of a financial collapse. And ten months later it doesn't seem that I went too far out on a limb this time. If the US government has to lend banks over 200 billion dollars a day just to keep the whole system from imploding, then the term "crisis" probably doesn't do justice to the situation. To keep this game going, the US government has to be able to sell the debt it is taking on, and what do you think the chances are that the world at large will be snapping up trillions of dollars of new debt, knowing that it is being used to prop up a shrinking economy? And if the debt can't be sold, then it has to be monetized, by printing money. And that will trigger hyperinflation. So, let's not quibble, and let us call what's happening what it looks like: "financial collapse".

2.
So here are the five stages as I defined them almost a year ago. The little check-mark next to "financial collapse" is there to remind us that we are not here to quibble or equivocate, because Stage 1 is pretty far along. Stages 2 and 3 - commercial and political collapse, are driven by financial collapse, and will overlap each other. Right now, it is unclear which one is farther along. On the one hand, there are signs that global shipping is grinding to a halt, and that big box retailers are in for a very bad time, with many stores likely to close following a disastrous Christmas season. On the other hand, states are already experiencing massive budget shortfalls, laying off state workers, cutting back on programs, and are starting to beg the federal government for bail-out money.

Even though the various stages of collapse drive each other in a variety of ways, I think that it makes sense to keep them apart conceptually. This is because their effects on our daily life are quite different. Whatever constructive ways we may find of dodging these effects are also going to be different. Lastly, some stages of collapse seem unavoidable, while others may be avoided if we put up enough of a fight.

Financial collapse seems to be particularly painful if you happen to have a lot of money. On the other hand, I run across people all the time, who feel that "Nothing's happened yet." These are mostly younger, relatively successful people, who have little or no savings, and still have good paying jobs, or unemployment insurance that hasn't run out yet. Their daily lives aren't much affected by the turmoil on the financial markets, and they don't believe that anything different is happening beyond the usual economic ups and downs.

Commercial collapse is much more obvious, and observing it doesn't entail opening envelopes and examining columns of figures. It is painful to most people, and life-threatening to some. When store shelves are stripped bare of necessities and remain that way for weeks at a time, panic sets in. In most places, this requires some sort of emergency response, to make sure that people are not deprived of food, shelter, medicine, and that some measure of security and public order is maintained. People who know what's coming can prepare to sit out the worst of it.

Political collapse is more painful yet, because it is directly life-threatening to many people. The breakdown of public order would be particularly dangerous in the US, because of the large number of social problems that have been swept under the carpet over the years. Americans, more than most other people, need to be defended from each other at all times. I think that I would prefer martial law over complete and utter mayhem and lawlessness, though I admit that both are very poor choices.

Social and cultural collapse seem to have already occurred in many parts of the country to a large extent. What social activity remains seems to be anchored to transitory activities like work, shopping, and sports. Religion is perhaps the largest exception, and many communities are organized around churches. But in places where society and culture remain intact, I believe that social and cultural collapse is avoidable, and that this is where we must really dig in our heels. Also, I think it is very important that we learn to see our surroundings for what they have become. In many places, it feels as if there just isn't that much left that's worth trying to save. If all the culture we see is commercial culture, and all the society we see is consumer society, then the best we can do is walk away from it, and look for other people who are ready to do the same.


3.
There is nothing particularly deep or magical about the five stages I chose, except that they seem convenient. They correspond to the commonly distinguished aspects of everyday reality. Each stage of collapse also corresponds to a certain set of beliefs in the status quo, that is about to go by the wayside.

It is always an impressive thing to observe when reality shifts. One moment, a certain idea is seen as preposterous, and the next moment it's being treated as conventional wisdom. There seems to be a psychological mechanism involved, where nobody wants to be seen as the last fool to finally get the picture. Everybody starts pretending that they've thought that way all along, or at least for a little while, for fear of appearing foolish. It is always awkward to ask people what caused them to suddenly change their minds, because with the fear of looking foolish comes a certain loss of dignity.

The most compelling example of lots of minds suddenly going "snap" is, to my mind, the sudden demise of the USSR. It happened with Boris Yeltsin standing atop a tank, and being asked the question: "But what will become of the Soviet Union?" And his answer, pronounced with maximum gravitas was: "Henceforth I shall only refer to it as the FORMER Soviet Union." And that was that. After that, whoever still believed in the Soviet Union appeared as not just foolish, but actually crazy. For a while, there were a lot of crazy old people parading around with portraits of Lenin and Stalin. Their minds were too old to go "snap".

Here in the US, we are yet to experience any of the really major, earth-shattering realizations, the ones that look preposterous immediately before and completely obvious immediately after they occur. We have had minor tremors, mostly relating to financial assumptions. Is real estate a good investment. Will private retirement allow you to retire? Will the government bail us all out? All the major realizations are yet to come, or, as my die-hard Yuppie friends keep telling me, "Nothing's happened yet."

But by the time something does happen, it will have been too late for us to start planning for it happening. It doesn't seem all that worthwhile for us to sit around waiting for the happy event of everybody else feeling foolish all at the same time. Arrogant though that may seem, we may be better off accepting their foolishness before they do, and keeping a safe distance ahead of the prevailing opinion.

Because if we do that, we may yet succeed in finding ways to cope. We may learn to dodge financial collapse by learning to live without needing much money. We may create alternative living arrangements and informal production and distribution networks for all the necessities before commercial collapse occurs. We may organize into self-governing communities that can provide for their own security during political collapse. And all of these steps put together may put us in a position to safeguard society and culture.

Or we can just wait until everyone starts agreeing with us, because we wouldn't want them to look foolish.

4.
The important dynamic, when it comes to financial collapse, is obvious by now. It's the collapse of credit pyramids, "the whole house of cards" as President Bush put it. The technical term is "deleveraging," and the response is the bailout. The federal government will be bailing out the banks and the insurance companies, the auto companies, and state governments. Call it the bail-out treadmill: we are borrowing faster and faster just to keep from falling down. The treadmill is actually a good metaphor. Imagine what would happen if you went to a gym, got on a treadmill machine, and just kept punching up the speed, as high as it will go. What happens is you trip and fall, and find yourself flying backwards.

It is instructive to ask the question, Who are we borrowing this bail-out money from? People will tell you that we are borrowing it from "the taxpayer." But it's not as if federal tax receipts have automatically shot up by a few trillion over the past couple of months, and so this begs the question, Who is "the taxpayer" going to borrow this money from in the meantime? From other Americans? No, because our savings rate has been abysmally low for quite some time now, and what little we have saved is in housing equity, which is dwindling, and in stocks and bonds, through mutual funds and 401ks and such, which are down by a third or so. The value of these investments is crashing, and if we dumped these investments to raise the cash to fund this new debt, that would just make them crash even faster. In effect, we'd only be moving money from one pocket to another. So, really, the bailouts have to be financed by foreigners. And what if these foreigners decide not to trust us with any more of their savings? Then our only recourse is to "monetize" the debt: to print money.

And so the next question is, how much money would we have to print? The purpose of the bailouts is to provide liquidity to insolvent companies, to avoid deleveraging. To understand what that means, we have to understand that for every actual dollar within the economy, in the sense of it not being borrowed, there are over 13 dollars of borrowed money, which only exists while the debt can be rolled over. If our credit is maxed out while the economy is growing, that's bad enough, but the US economy is shrinking because of the recent oil shock. A smaller economy cannot carry as much debt, and this is part of the reason why we have deleveraging. Once the process of debt going sour gets started, it is hard to stop, and if deleveraging were to run its course, we would be down over 1300%. To monetize that much debt would require over 1300% inflation. And once that gets started, it becomes very hard to stop.

And, that, believe it or not, is actually the good news. Because most of our debt is denominated in our own currency - the US dollar - the US will not have to declare sovereign default, like Russia was forced to do in the 1990s. Instead, we can inflate our way out of national bankruptcy, by printing a lot of dollars. We will repay our national debt, but we will do so in worthless paper money, bankrupting our international creditors in the process. There is sure to be plenty of pain for everyone, especially everyone who is used to having plenty of money, because their money will no longer make the world go around. Once the US has to start earning foreign currency in order to pay for imports, you can be sure that imports will become quite scarce.

5.
Here are before and after snapshots of the most salient characteristics of financial collapse, as they will affect the vast majority of the population. Here, I am assuming that commercial and political collapse are slower in arriving, and that government is still there to step in with emergency aid of various sorts, and that a market economy of some sort continues to function. It could come down to everyone walking around with their little food stamps debit cards, and the only place they can use them that's within walking distance is McDonalds, but I am assuming some semi-stable period during which other adjustments can occur before other stages run their course.

The adjustments would have to do with major aspects of the living arrangement, from where we live to how we grow food to how we relate to each other. With money scarce and not particularly potent, other ways of winning the cooperation of others would need to be evolved in a hurry. The financial realm can be seen as a complex system of fences: your bank account is fenced off from my bank account. This arrangement allows you and me to not worry too much about each other, provided each of us has enough to live on. Though this is largely a fiction, we can fancy ourselves to be independent economic players on a level playing field. But once these conceptual fences become irrelevant, because there is nothing behind them, we become each others' burden, in an immediate sort of way, that would come as a shock to most people. The indignity of such physical interdependence would be psychologically devastating to many people, raising the human toll from financial collapse beyond what you'd expect from a problem that really only exists on paper. This is going to be particularly hard for a nation brought up on the myth of rugged individualism.

6.
Commercial collapse, when it arrives, will again cause much more of a psychological crack-up than you'd expect from a purely organizational problem. The quantities of immediately available goods and services right before and right after the collapse would remain about the same, but because market psychology is so ingrained in the population, no other ways of coping would be considered. Hoarding would become widespread, with looting as the obvious antidote. There would be an instant, huge black market for all sorts of necessities, from shampoo to vials of insulin.

The market mechanism works well in some cases, but it doesn't work at all when key commodities become scarce. It leads to profiteering, hoarding, looting, and other pernicious effects. There is usually a knee-jerk reaction to regulate the markets, by imposing price controls, or by introducing rationing. I found it quite funny that the recent clamoring for re-regulating the financial markets was greeted with cries of "Socialists!" Failing at capitalism doesn't make you a socialist, any more than getting a divorce automatically make you gay.

If by the time commercial collapse is upon us, there is still enough of the political system left intact to implement rationing and price controls and emergency distribution schemes, then we should count these among our blessings. Such heavy-handed governance is certainly not a crowd-pleaser during times of plenty, when it's also unnecessary, but it can be quite a life-saver during times of scarcity. The Soviet food distribution system, which was plagued with chronic underperformance during normal times, proved to be paradoxically resilient during collapse, allowing people to survive the transition.

7.
If prior to commercial collapse the challenge is finding enough money to afford the necessities, afterward the challenge is getting people to accept money as payment for these same necessities. Many of the would-be sellers will prefer to be paid in something more valuable than mere cash. Customer service comes to mean that customers must provide a service. Given that most people won't have much to offer, other than their now worthless money, should they still have any, most purveyors of goods and services decide to take a holiday.

With the disappearance of the free and open market, even the items that still are available for sale come to be offered in a way that is neither free nor open, but only at certain times and to certain people. Whatever wealth still exists is hidden, because flaunting it or exposing it just increases the security risk, and the amount of effort required to guard it.

In an economy where the vast majority of manufactured items is imported, and designed with planned obsolescence in mind, it will be difficult to keep things running as imports dry up, especially imports of spare parts for foreign-made machinery. The pool of available equipment will shrink over time, as more and more pieces of equipment become used as "organ donors." In an effort to keep things running, entire cottage industries devoted to refurbishing old stuff might suddenly come together.

8.
It is sometimes hard to discern political collapse, because politicians tend to be quite good at maintaining the pretense of power and authority even as it dwindles. But there are some telltale signs of political collapse. One is when politicians start moonlighting because their day job is no longer sufficiently gainful. Another is when regional politicians start to openly defy orders from the political center. Russia experienced plenty of each of these symptoms.

One thing that makes political collapse particularly hard to spot is that the worse things get, the more noise the politicians emit. The substance to noise ratio in political discourse is pretty low even in good times, making it hard to spot the transition when it actually drops to zero. The variable that's easier to monitor is the level of political embarrassment. For instance, when Mr. Nazdratenko, the governor of the far-east Russian region of Primorye, stole large amounts of coal, made strides in the direction of establishing an independent foreign policy toward China, and yet Moscow could do nothing to reign him in, you could be sure that Russia's political system was pretty much defunct.

Another telltale sign of political collapse is actual disintegration, where regions declare independence. In Russia, that was the case with Chechnya, and it led to a prolonged bloody conflict. Here, we might have a "Reconquista" where former Mexican territories become ever more Mexican, the South might rise again. New England, California, and the Pacific Northwest might decide to go their separate ways. Once the interstate highway system is no longer viable and the remaining domestic airlines are extinct, there is not much to keep the two coasts together. What once united the country was the construction of the continental railroad, but railroads have been too neglected to hold it together now. A country consisting of two halves tied together via Panama Canal is de facto at least two countries.

Yet another thing to watch for is foreign incursions into domestic politics. When foreign political consultants start stage-managing elections, as happened with Yeltsin's reelection campaign, you can be sure that the country is no longer in charge of its own political system. In the US, there is a gradual surrender of sovereignty, as sovereign wealth funds buy up more and more US assets. That sort of thing used to be considered akin to an act of war, but these are desperate times, and they are allowed to do so without so much as a nasty comment. Eventually, they may start making political demands, to extract the most value out of their investments. For instance, they could start vetting candidates for public office, to make sure that we remain friendly to their interests.

Lastly, the power vacuum created by the collapse of legitimate authority tends to be more or less automatically filled by criminal syndicates. These often try to commandeer the political establishment by getting their heads elected or appointed to political offices. Examples include Russian oligarchs, such as Boris Berezovsky, who got himself elected to Duma, the Russian parliament, and Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who thought he could use his oil wealth to buy his way into the political establishment. Luckily for Russia, Berezovsky is in exile in England, and Khodorkovsky is in jail.

9.
A great many people in the US insist that they do not need government help, and that they would do just fine if only the government would leave them alone. But this is really just a pose; there is a great deal that that government does to make their lives possible. In the United States, the federal government keeps many people alive through programs such as Medicaid, Social Security, and food stamps. Local governments provide for trash removal and water and sewer line maintenance, road and bridge repair, and so on. Police departments try to defend people from each other.

When all of that starts to unravel, it is likely to do so from the bottom, not from the top. Local officials are more accessible than remote Washington bureaucrats, and so they will be the first to be overwhelmed by the anger and confusion of their constituents, while Washington remains unresponsive. One likely exception may have to do with the use of federal troops. It seems almost a given that troops repatriated from the more than 1000 foreign military bases will see action right here at home. They will be reassigned to domestic peacekeeping duties.

10.
Aside from the big government programs, there is little available in the US to help those in need. Again, Americans make a big show of their philanthropy, but, compared to other developed countries, they are in fact quite stingy when it comes to helping those in need. There is even a streak of political sadism, which, for example, shows up in people's attitudes toward welfare recipients. This sadism can be seen in the so-called welfare reform, which has forced single mothers to work jobs that barely cover the cost of daycare, which is often substandard.

Aside from the government, there are charities, many of which are church-based, and so they have the ulterior motive of recruiting people to their cause. But even when a charity does not make any specific demands, its real purpose is to reinforce the superiority of those who are charitable, at the expense of those who are the recipients. There is a flow of forced gratitude from the beneficiary to the benefactor. The greater the need, the more humiliating is the transaction to the beneficiary, and the more satisfying it is to the benefactor. There is no motivation for the benefactor to provide more charity in response to greater need, except in special circumstances, such as immediately following a natural disaster. Where the need is large, constant, and growing, we should expect charities to matter very little when it comes to satisfying it.

Since neither government largesse nor charity is likely to provide for those who cannot provide for themselves, we should look for other options. One promising direction is a revival of mutual help societies, which take membership contributions and then use them to help those in need. At least in theory, such organizations are vastly better than either government aid or charities. Those who are helped by them do not have to surrender their dignity, and can survive difficult times without being stigmatized.

To make it intact through times of great need, the only reasonable approach, it seems to me, is to form communities that are strong and cohesive enough to provide for the well-being of all of their members, that are large enough to be resourceful, yet small enough so that people can relate to each other directly, and to take direct responsibility for each other's well-being.

11.
If this effort fails, then the outlook becomes dire indeed. I would like to emphasize, once again, that we must do all we can to avoid this stage of collapse. We can allow the financial system, and the commercial sector, and most of the government institutions to collapse, but not this.

What makes this particularly challenging is that the existence of finance and credit, of consumer society, and of government-imposed law and order has allowed society, in the sense of direct, mutual help and of freely accepting responsibility for each others' welfare, to atrophy. This process of social decay may be less advanced in groups that have survived recent adversity: immigrant and minority groups, or people who served together in the armed forces. The instincts that underlie this behavior are strong, and they are what helped us survive as a species, but they need to be reactivated in time to create groups that are cohesive enough to be viable.

12.
Culture can mean a great many things to people, but what I mean here is a specific very important element of culture: how people relate to each other face to face. Take honesty, for instance: do people demand it of themselves and others, or do they feel that it is acceptable to lie to get what you want? Do they take pride in how much they have or in how much they can give? I took this list of virtues from Colin Turnbull, who wrote a book about a tribe in which most of these virtues were almost entirely missing. Turnbull's point was that these personal virtues are also all but destroyed in Western society, but that for the time being their absence is being masked by the impersonal institutions of finance, commerce, and government.

I believe that Turnbull has a point. Ours is a cold world, in which the citizens are theoretically expected to fend for themselves, but in reality can only survive thanks to the impersonal services of finance, commerce, and government. It only allows us to practice these warm virtues among family and friends. But that is a start, and from there we can expand this circle of warmth to encompass more and more of the people who matter to us and we to them.

13.
In his amazing book about the legacy of European colonialism, Exterminate all the Brutes, Sven Lindqvist makes the stunning observation that violence renders one unrecognizable. The aggressor, whether active or passive, becomes a stranger.

 


#762 From: Andrew Leask <andrewl@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:06 am
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Hi,

The much awaited Rocket Stove workshop will be on Monday 7th December, at MadLab, 6:30 - 9pm. It had to be moved from the last monday of November due to a clash with another event, so I hope that's OK for everyone!

A rocket stove is an efficient, ensulated cooking device fuelled by wood.. There will be a talk and a breakdown of how to make one. So far I haven't managed to organise a practical part to this other than bringing a rocket stove which we can take apart to show the inside, mainly because I don't have enough tools for it and cost of materials, and the time.

It will be food to bring and share as usual, and probably a short meeting to decide what the next events will be, unless there are already some things lined up?

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Hi,

The much awaited Rocket Stove workshop will be on Monday 7th December, at MadLab, 6:30 - 9pm. It had to be moved from the last monday of November due to a clash with another event, so I hope that's OK for everyone!

A rocket stove is an efficient, ensulated cooking device fuelled by wood.. There will be a talk and a breakdown of how to make one. So far I haven't managed to organise a practical part to this other than bringing a rocket stove which we can take apart to show the inside, mainly because I don't have enough tools for it and cost of materials, and the time.

It will be food to bring and share as usual, and probably a short meeting to decide what the next events will be, unless there are already some things lined up?

Hope you can make it,

Agnes


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#760 From: "Jules Puddy" <julespuddy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:09 pm
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Tree Crops

A Permanent Agriculture

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J. Russell Smith, Sc.D.

First published in 1929

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Smith was a genius written in 1929


#759 From: "Jules Puddy" <julespuddy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:08 pm
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#758 From: Helen Starr-Keddle <helenstarrkeddle@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:36 am
Subject: Fw: Birthday Bonfire Bonanza
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Sent: Fri, 30 October, 2009 11:36:06
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Hi 

Apologies I forgot to put the date, this event is on Sunday 8th November.

Many thanks

Helen Starr-Keddle
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Sustainability Coordinator for Communities
Action for Sustainable Living
St Wilfrid's Enterprise Centre, Royce Road, Hulme, M15 5BJ
Tel: 0845 634 4510 Web: www.afsl.org.uk

Action for Sustainable Living, winners of the Guardian Charity Awards 2008!




On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Helen Starr-Keddle <helen.starr-keddle@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone, please circulate to anyone you think might be interested..

The Lost Plot, Chorlton's community allotment project, celebrates its 4th birthday in November and with the approach of Guy Fawkes Night we have decided to combine our celebrations and have a Birthday Bonfire Bonanza! We’ll be having a warm, cosy bonfire, a BBQ (both meat and veggie) and November celebrations wouldn’t be complete without a few fireworks! As with every Sunday, we will be at the plot from 1pm building, digging and generally getting our hands dirty so if you’d like to join us in the daytime, feel free to come on down. We’re always on the lookout for new volunteers and our bonfire celebrations provide a great opportunity to meet the team, share your knowledge and learn more about growing your own organic fruit and veg.

The atmosphere will be friendly and relaxed, so feel free to bring sparklers, drink, food to cook on the BBQ and don’t forget to wrap up warm! Music (both live and recorded) welcome. The BBQ and bonfire will be start at around 6pm, followed by fireworks at 7.30pm. For more information or to find out who to contact on the night, please email allotment@....


The Lost Plot, Southern Allotments, Wintermans Road, Off Arrowfield road, Nell Lane Estate, Chorlton


Many thanks

Helen Starr-Keddle
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Sustainability Coordinator for Communities
Action for Sustainable Living
St Wilfrid's Enterprise Centre, Royce Road, Hulme, M15 5BJ
Tel: 0845 634 4510 Web: www.afsl.org.uk

Action for Sustainable Living, winners of the Guardian Charity Awards 2008!





#757 From: Helen Starr-Keddle <helenstarrkeddle@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:21 am
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Sent: Fri, 30 October, 2009 11:19:15
Subject: Birthday Bonfire Bonanza

Hi Everyone, please circulate to anyone you think might be interested..

The Lost Plot, Chorlton's community allotment project, celebrates its 4th birthday in November and with the approach of Guy Fawkes Night we have decided to combine our celebrations and have a Birthday Bonfire Bonanza! We’ll be having a warm, cosy bonfire, a BBQ (both meat and veggie) and November celebrations wouldn’t be complete without a few fireworks! As with every Sunday, we will be at the plot from 1pm building, digging and generally getting our hands dirty so if you’d like to join us in the daytime, feel free to come on down. We’re always on the lookout for new volunteers and our bonfire celebrations provide a great opportunity to meet the team, share your knowledge and learn more about growing your own organic fruit and veg.

The atmosphere will be friendly and relaxed, so feel free to bring sparklers, drink, food to cook on the BBQ and don’t forget to wrap up warm! Music (both live and recorded) welcome. The BBQ and bonfire will be start at around 6pm, followed by fireworks at 7.30pm. For more information or to find out who to contact on the night, please email allotment@....


The Lost Plot, Southern Allotments, Wintermans Road, Off Arrowfield road, Nell Lane Estate, Chorlton


Many thanks

Helen Starr-Keddle
helen.starr-keddle@...
Sustainability Coordinator for Communities
Action for Sustainable Living
St Wilfrid's Enterprise Centre, Royce Road, Hulme, M15 5BJ
Tel: 0845 634 4510 Web: www.afsl.org.uk

Action for Sustainable Living, winners of the Guardian Charity Awards 2008!




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#756 From: climate activist <manchesterclimateforum@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:58 pm
Subject: Environmental Strategy director for Manchester City Council speaking
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Hi all,

good opportunity to quiz Manchester City Council's Director of
Environmental Strategy about food production/permaculture design etc
and what could and should be done in Manchester.

Weds 21st October (tomorrow!) from 7pm at the Friends Meeting House, 6 Mount St.

http://www.manchesterclimateforum.org.uk/oct21.html

It's free, and do bring details of any events you know about/projects
you are involved in, because we have an "announcements" section later
in the meeting...

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Manchester's Climate Change Action Plan(s)
On Weds 21st October, come quiz the director of Environmental Strategy!
www.manchesterclimateforum.org.uk/oct21.html

For up-to-date climate news with a Manchester focus-
www.manchesterclimatefortnightly.info

#755 From: agnes beviz <abeviz@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:35 pm
Subject: Cider Brewing Workshop
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Hi!

The next Manchester Permaculture event will next Monday (26th Oct), 6:30pm - 9:30pm, and it will be a cider making workshop! We've got a home brewer coming from near Manchester to talk a bit about cider brewing, and we are also going to juice some apples using a crusher and apple press. We'll be at the Hulme Centre, just behind  Hulme Community Garden Centre (map) .

This event is joint with Abundance Manchester who will be donating the apples. Half the apple juice will go to community groups in Manchester, and the rest is for you to take home and try some home brewing (hopefully we'll have enough!). Or one of us could brew it at home to be used for another MPN event?

If you interested in coming please reply to me (abeviz@...) so that I can get an idea of numbers.

Schedule:
I'm not even going to try and put a time to whats going to happen and when, but hopefully Matt Veasey will give a talk about home brewing at around 7pm, with apple juicing already starting beforehand. We can aim to eat at 7:30, and do more juicing later on, then share out the juice!

What to bring:
  • Food to share
  • A clean bottle if you want to take some apple juice away to brew at home
  • Knives and chopping boards - the more people that can chop, the more juice we'll get! :)
  • Anything else usefull: apples, or some examples of home brewed cider if you have some on the go.

How to get there:

The event will be at Hulme Centre (on the grounds of Claremont Resource Centre), which is on Rolls Crescent. It's behind Hulme Community Garden Centre (map) and the Junction Pub on the corner of Old Birley St and Rolls Crescent.
From Hulme Market, head towards the city centre, up Old Birley Street, and Hullme Community Garden Centre is 100m up on your left. From the city centre get the 86 bus (to Chorlton), from Piccadilly Gardens, to Old Birley Street (or walk or cycle).


Hope to see some of you there!

Agnes



(Next event after this: Rocket Stove making on Mon 30th Nove, venue possibly MadLab)




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