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Here's another one for the list, apologies if you guys have discussed it
before - I haven't had time to comb the list archives yet.

After the fall of civilisation on the Ringworld, where do the less advanced,
non-spacefaring cultures, get their metals? I see two possibilities - either
they scavenge them from city builder ruins and the remains of previous
advanced cultures or they mine them on the Ringworld. Both possibilities
raise interesting questions.

If the only source of metals is scavenging from the ruins, then tools and
metal artefacts would become valuable and increasingly rare over time as
there's a limited supply. Also, electronics and similar industries require
conductive metals like copper and gold which I presume couldn't be found in
Citybuilder ruins as they used super conductor.

If newer cultures are mining metal ores and smelting and working the metals
from Ringworld sources, then this metal must have been in the rock used to
line the inner surface (and therefore proof that this material was not
created by matter transmutation, as hindmost once believed). Also, finding
and mining ores would be different than on a natural world. On Earth, metals
are found by geologists recognising the types of rocks likely to bear
certain metal ores - on the Ringworld these natural signposts won't be
there, so prospecting for ore must be more difficult with no natural
signposts and such a vast area of bedrock to be searched.

This has been bothering me for a while, anyone have any thoughts on this?

John




Fri May 7, 2004 9:10 am

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Here's another one for the list, apologies if you guys have discussed it before - I haven't had time to comb the list archives yet. After the fall of...
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May 7, 2004
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Good one. I thought along a similar line (though not as extensive) when I read RW Throne. There is one suggestion - matter transmutation would provide the...
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May 7, 2004
5:18 pm

Yeah, the majority of our plastics do come from oil. However, plasics can be made that are in fact bio-degradeable and don't use oil. Oil based plasics aren't...
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May 7, 2004
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Hello everyone i have read your emails for a long time and this is my first reply. I play RW with 6 friends of mine on a biweekly basis. As to your ideas of...
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May 7, 2004
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More on metals. From the description of the machine People on page 30 of the Creatures book, it says: "...are limited by scarce natural resources and plurality...
John Wood
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May 10, 2004
9:23 am

John Have you ever read the Deathworld Series by Harry Harrison? I think DW 2 or 3 had a world where technology was at that level, and where technology was ...
David Gordon
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May 10, 2004
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... Hi David, no I haven't read those books - my knowledge of Harrison only goes as far as the Stainless Steel Rat series. I'll see if I can get those on to my...
John Wood
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May 10, 2004
10:43 am

... I actually have a lot of thoughts on this. A lot depends on how the pak made the ringworld but one might assume they poured molten rock for the bedrock...
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May 11, 2004
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Hi Darkstar, thanks for your thoughts on the metals issue. My responses below. ... I agree with what you say, but you're assuming the Pak are the Ringworld's...
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