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#177 From: "Neil Koenig" <tradeacar@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:41 pm
Subject: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?
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Could anyone tell me if they have experienced any of their Vinyl
cushions stitching coming away from the Vinyl? We bought an ex-demo
September 2005 60th anniversary 232 cuddy in April 2006.

In our second season with the boat we noticed the vinyl was starting
to come apart very slightly. (We don't stand on it, just use it for
what it is designed for).

Now, this being our third season with the boat, there are now four
different area's on the boat, where we will need to spend some money
on re-upholstering this winter, with hopefully a close match.

I have been on much, much older boats than ours with better original
cushions with no signs of ripping away. Sea Rays, Bayliners and
Glastrons.

I cannot except this, with only my wife and I, no kids or
pets, always washing off any salt after every use, why we need to re-
upholster our exactly three year old boat and 75hrs of use.

We had a cheap £3,000 fifteen year old Bayliner with the
same amount of wear as you would expect. As this current Rinker.

Is anyone experiencing this same problem? I've been told that I'm
the only person on the globe with this!!!

Please get in touch, anyone.

Regards

Neil Koenig
01628-771190 anytime.





#178 From: "casteen" <casteen@...>
Date: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:33 am
Subject: Re: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?
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yep, 2008 Rinker 400ec.. Making them replace via warranty.

--- In Rinkerboats@..., "Neil Koenig" <tradeacar@...>
wrote:
>
> Could anyone tell me if they have experienced any of their Vinyl
> cushions stitching coming away from the Vinyl? We bought an ex-demo
> September 2005 60th anniversary 232 cuddy in April 2006.
>
> In our second season with the boat we noticed the vinyl was
starting
> to come apart very slightly. (We don't stand on it, just use it for
> what it is designed for).
>
> Now, this being our third season with the boat, there are now four
> different area's on the boat, where we will need to spend some
money
> on re-upholstering this winter, with hopefully a close match.
>
> I have been on much, much older boats than ours with better
original
> cushions with no signs of ripping away. Sea Rays, Bayliners and
> Glastrons.
>
> I cannot except this, with only my wife and I, no kids or
> pets, always washing off any salt after every use, why we need to
re-
> upholster our exactly three year old boat and 75hrs of use.
>
> We had a cheap £3,000 fifteen year old Bayliner with the
> same amount of wear as you would expect. As this current Rinker.
>
> Is anyone experiencing this same problem? I've been told that I'm
> the only person on the globe with this!!!
>
> Please get in touch, anyone.
>
> Regards
>
> Neil Koenig
> 01628-771190 anytime.
>





#179 From: "Graham Poore" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:43 am
Subject: Re: Re: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?
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Yes, we had a lot of problems not just with upholstery. We had some serious warranty claims which the factory were unwilling to pay for so we stopped importing Rinkers and moved onto other brands. Cambrian Boats are now the only importers and I believe the quality has improved.
 
Graham
Rinker Boat Sales
Eastbourne UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: casteen
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:33 AM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Re: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?

yep, 2008 Rinker 400ec.. Making them replace via warranty.

--- In Rinkerboats@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Neil Koenig" <tradeacar@...>
wrote:
>
> Could anyone tell me if they have experienced any of their Vinyl
> cushions stitching coming away from the Vinyl? We bought an ex-demo
> September 2005 60th anniversary 232 cuddy in April 2006.
>
> In our second season with the boat we noticed the vinyl was
starting
> to come apart very slightly. (We don't stand on it, just use it for
> what it is designed for).
>
> Now, this being our third season with the boat, there are now four
> different area's on the boat, where we will need to spend some
money
> on re-upholstering this winter, with hopefully a close match.
>
> I have been on much, much older boats than ours with better
original
> cushions with no signs of ripping away. Sea Rays, Bayliners and
> Glastrons.
>
> I cannot except this, with only my wife and I, no kids or
> pets, always washing off any salt after every use, why we need to
re-
> upholster our exactly three year old boat and 75hrs of use.
>
> We had a cheap £3,000 fifteen year old Bayliner with the
> same amount of wear as you would expect. As this current Rinker.
>
> Is anyone experiencing this same problem? I've been told that I'm
> the only person on the globe with this!!!
>
> Please get in touch, anyone.
>
> Regards
>
> Neil Koenig
> 01628-771190 anytime.
>


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#180 From: "neilkoenig" <tradeacar@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 9:21 am
Subject: Re: Re: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?
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Hello Graham
 
Thank you for your reply to my email, relating to the cushions falling apart. I really don't expect to get anywhere with this with Rinker. But it certainly will steer me away from any future purchases of Rinkers.
 
I would'nt expect to start thinking of replacing upholstery within the first three years of a boats age. I was actually thinking of either a 280 cruiser next or a secondhand Crownline 270 or 275. 
 
It will either speed the process of us selling the boat before it gets worse, or to poor money into it and keep it for a while longer.
 
The rest of the boat seems to be ok. At least the Volvo Penta engine would be the same what ever boat you choose.
 
Thank you for your input into the cushions
 
Regards Neil.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Rinkerboats] Re: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?

Yes, we had a lot of problems not just with upholstery. We had some serious warranty claims which the factory were unwilling to pay for so we stopped importing Rinkers and moved onto other brands. Cambrian Boats are now the only importers and I believe the quality has improved.
 
Graham
Rinker Boat Sales
Eastbourne UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: casteen
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:33 AM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Re: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?

yep, 2008 Rinker 400ec.. Making them replace via warranty.

--- In Rinkerboats@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Neil Koenig" <tradeacar@...>
wrote:
>
> Could anyone tell me if they have experienced any of their Vinyl
> cushions stitching coming away from the Vinyl? We bought an ex-demo
> September 2005 60th anniversary 232 cuddy in April 2006.
>
> In our second season with the boat we noticed the vinyl was
starting
> to come apart very slightly. (We don't stand on it, just use it for
> what it is designed for).
>
> Now, this being our third season with the boat, there are now four
> different area's on the boat, where we will need to spend some
money
> on re-upholstering this winter, with hopefully a close match.
>
> I have been on much, much older boats than ours with better
original
> cushions with no signs of ripping away. Sea Rays, Bayliners and
> Glastrons.
>
> I cannot except this, with only my wife and I, no kids or
> pets, always washing off any salt after every use, why we need to
re-
> upholster our exactly three year old boat and 75hrs of use.
>
> We had a cheap £3,000 fifteen year old Bayliner with the
> same amount of wear as you would expect. As this current Rinker.
>
> Is anyone experiencing this same problem? I've been told that I'm
> the only person on the globe with this!!!
>
> Please get in touch, anyone.
>
> Regards
>
> Neil Koenig
> 01628-771190 anytime.
>


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#181 From: "neilkoenig" <tradeacar@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 9:39 am
Subject: Re: Re: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?
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Hi Casteen
 
You will notice I have emailed Graham back. Thanks to you also for your contribution in the cushions. At least I'm not the only person having problems, as it was addressed to me in the first place when I explained the fault.
 
Pleased to hear your having it done, rather than you pouring your own money into covering cushions. That would be very expensive on your size of boat.
 
Regards Neil. 
----- Original Message -----
From: casteen
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:33 AM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Re: Vinyl Cushions falling apart?

yep, 2008 Rinker 400ec.. Making them replace via warranty.

--- In Rinkerboats@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Neil Koenig" <tradeacar@...>
wrote:
>
> Could anyone tell me if they have experienced any of their Vinyl
> cushions stitching coming away from the Vinyl? We bought an ex-demo
> September 2005 60th anniversary 232 cuddy in April 2006.
>
> In our second season with the boat we noticed the vinyl was
starting
> to come apart very slightly. (We don't stand on it, just use it for
> what it is designed for).
>
> Now, this being our third season with the boat, there are now four
> different area's on the boat, where we will need to spend some
money
> on re-upholstering this winter, with hopefully a close match.
>
> I have been on much, much older boats than ours with better
original
> cushions with no signs of ripping away. Sea Rays, Bayliners and
> Glastrons.
>
> I cannot except this, with only my wife and I, no kids or
> pets, always washing off any salt after every use, why we need to
re-
> upholster our exactly three year old boat and 75hrs of use.
>
> We had a cheap £3,000 fifteen year old Bayliner with the
> same amount of wear as you would expect. As this current Rinker.
>
> Is anyone experiencing this same problem? I've been told that I'm
> the only person on the globe with this!!!
>
> Please get in touch, anyone.
>
> Regards
>
> Neil Koenig
> 01628-771190 anytime.
>


 
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