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#19 From: "kendaldrive" <dbowen@...>
Date: Sun Apr 3, 2005 6:29 pm
Subject: Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee
kendaldrive
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Hi All,

I joined this group on the advice of Martin as I am currently
seeking to buy a 25 foot sports boat.  I have seen a couple of 1997
240 Fiesta Vee's on various websites.  Any opinions?  It'll be my
first boat so be gentle :-)

Regards


David

#20 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 6:53 am
Subject: Re: Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee
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David    The Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee is a good sea boat and we did not have any problems with them. Expect to pay between GBP16000 and GBP20000 for a boat kept in good condition. The 240 is trailable but is heavy and you would need a vehicle such as a Discovery.
Most of them had cold water only (so, no hot shower) and no microwave oven.
We had one on our brokerage list recently, but its no longer available.
Most were fitted with the 5.0L 210php Mercruiser driving an Alpha outdrive but a small number were imported with the 5.7L 250php engine driving the twin prop Bravo 3 outdrive. Both engines quite happy pulling a skier but bear in mind the 240 is a sportscruiser not a sportsboat. If you dont need four berths then look at the two berth Rinker 232 Captiva Cuddy. This is easier to trail, better at watersports and more widely available.
If you need any info, let me know.
Graham
Rinker Direct
Eastbourne, Sussex
 
 ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:29 PM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee


Hi All,

I joined this group on the advice of Martin as I am currently
seeking to buy a 25 foot sports boat.  I have seen a couple of 1997
240 Fiesta Vee's on various websites.  Any opinions?  It'll be my
first boat so be gentle :-)

Regards


David





#21 From: "David Bowen" <dbowen@...>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 5:38 pm
Subject: RE: Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee
kendaldrive
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Hi Graham,

 

Many thanks for your response.  I am contemplating mooring on Windermere, so performance will not be a major issue, but no of berths and facilities will be important.  Your feedback is tremendously useful to me.  If you get any more 240’s in the 16-20k range on brokerage in the near future, please would you keep my details on record and maybe drop me a line.

 

Many thanks

 

David

 


From: GRAHAM POORE [mailto:etubeuk@...]
Sent: 04 April 2005 07:54
To: Rinkerboats@...
Subject: Re: [Rinkerboats] Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee

 

David    The Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee is a good sea boat and we did not have any problems with them. Expect to pay between GBP16000 and GBP20000 for a boat kept in good condition. The 240 is trailable but is heavy and you would need a vehicle such as a Discovery.

Most of them had cold water only (so, no hot shower) and no microwave oven.

We had one on our brokerage list recently, but its no longer available.

Most were fitted with the 5.0L 210php Mercruiser driving an Alpha outdrive but a small number were imported with the 5.7L 250php engine driving the twin prop Bravo 3 outdrive. Both engines quite happy pulling a skier but bear in mind the 240 is a sportscruiser not a sportsboat. If you dont need four berths then look at the two berth Rinker 232 Captiva Cuddy. This is easier to trail, better at watersports and more widely available.

If you need any info, let me know.

Graham

Rinker Direct

Eastbourne, Sussex

 

 ----- Original Message -----

From: kendaldrive

Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:29 PM

Subject: [Rinkerboats] Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee

 


Hi All,

I joined this group on the advice of Martin as I am currently
seeking to buy a 25 foot sports boat.  I have seen a couple of 1997
240 Fiesta Vee's on various websites.  Any opinions?  It'll be my
first boat so be gentle :-)

Regards


David







#22 From: "Graham Poore" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee
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David  Yes if any Rinker 240's come in I will contact you.  If you see any other boats that you fancy and are not Rinker then feel free to email me and I will let you know what we think of that particular boat. We take lots of different makes in part exchange and are happy to tell you what we think about them
Graham
Rinker UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Rinkerboats] Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee

Hi Graham,

 

Many thanks for your response.  I am contemplating mooring on Windermere, so performance will not be a major issue, but no of berths and facilities will be important.  Your feedback is tremendously useful to me.  If you get any more 240’s in the 16-20k range on brokerage in the near future, please would you keep my details on record and maybe drop me a line.

 

Many thanks

 

David

 


#23 From: "Alistair" <alistair-richardson@...>
Date: Wed Apr 6, 2005 8:29 am
Subject: Welcome to recent new members and First time boat owners.
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Just a quick welcome to all new members, there seems to have been a
few recently which is great.

Great to see first time buyers choosing Rinker to start off with too.

The Group is for discussions and queries alike.

But if i can bring your attention to the Photos and Links Pages.
Please feel free to add any pics you like, i don't know about others
but i like looking at pics of boats, so the more the merrier. Also
if you have any interesting web sites or have an Album else where
please feel free to add the URL to the links page so as we can all
check out interesting sites.

As well as the Yahoo url, there is an easier address that you may
use to bring you to this site it is:
http://www.rinkerownersclub.co.uk/ So add it to you're Favorites!!!
This URL is live and able to be used as of Now.
I am hoping to have someone build a web site for the rinker Owners
Club in the near future with other feature as well as the Discussion
Group

Please feel free to suggest any changes/additions to this Group or
Club. Also please feel free to promote it anywhere you think Rinker
boat owners may see it.

Again - Welcome and safe, good boating.

Many Thanks

Alistair.
Moderator & A very happy Rinker Owner.
http://www.arweb.co.uk/argallery/alistair

#24 From: "Alistair" <alistair-richardson@...>
Date: Wed Apr 6, 2005 8:41 am
Subject: Re: Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee
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Hi David,
Welcome to the group, I read with interest Grahams reply to your
question, and
one point that interested me was the fact he said Most 240's WOULD
NOT have hot water!! I think its a must if you are going to be
spending overnights on the boat.
I do think it is reasonably easy to fit a hot water system though if
not already done so.

Other models i have seen advertised are the Fiesta Vee's 235 and
265. Possibly a bit older though, but also a bit cheaper.(I believe
a 265 has moved in next to me at the marina although i haven't seen
it yet)

I wonder if Graham or anyone else would like to give there views on
these boats, as they're maybe a good starter boat for someone.

Anyway good boat hunting and never be affraid to ask questions.

Cheers

Alistair.
http://arweb.co.uk/argallery/alistair



--- In Rinkerboats@..., "kendaldrive" <dbowen@m...>
wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I joined this group on the advice of Martin as I am currently
> seeking to buy a 25 foot sports boat.  I have seen a couple of
1997
> 240 Fiesta Vee's on various websites.  Any opinions?  It'll be my
> first boat so be gentle :-)
>
> Regards
>
>
> David

#25 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Thu Apr 7, 2005 7:14 am
Subject: Re: Re: Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee
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Yes, it is possible to fit a hot water system to a Rinker Fiesta Vee 240 or similar boat but it is expensive. We priced to do one recently, I will look up the details and advise the approx. cost in a day or so.
 
Concerning some of the older Rinker models such as the 235, 260, 265 and many more, these are all typical Rinker, with heavy hulls for sea use rather than lakes and sound basic design. An older Rinker will be OK to buy as far as the boat itself is concerned but it is the engine you need to be more concerned about. I would recommend to everyone considering buying a boat more than 6 years old to have a proper survey done and an engineers opinion of the engine. Obviously a full service history would be reassuring.
Also of considerable importance is being sure the boat you are buying legally belongs to the person selling it to you and that he/she has sufficient documentary evidence to prove it. Remember debts can attach to boats and not their owners, so along with your new boat might come a surprise bill for 12 months mooring and an engine service unpaid by the previous owner.
Buyer Beware!
Using a proper broker or main dealer will eliminate these risks. If any one has any questions about legal title for boats etc then post your question on this group and we shall do our best to answer them.
 
Graham
Rinker Direct
Eastbourne
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alistair
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Re: Rinker 240 Fiesta Vee

I do think it is reasonably easy to fit a hot water system though if
not already done so.


I wonder if Graham or anyone else would like to give there views on
these boats, as they're maybe a good starter boat for someone.

#26 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Fri Apr 8, 2005 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: Buyer Beware - RCD/CE
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IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR ANYONE CONSIDERING BUYING A USED RINKER BOAT (or any other US made boat)
 
The EU inspired Recreational Craft Directive (RCD) came into force in June 1998 and applies to all boats made in or imported into the EU after that date.
 
It is illegal to import a new or used boat that does not comply with the RCD and it is a further offence to sell such a boat if it exists in the EU. Most boats made for the USA market do not comply as they are certified to a different standard set down by the US Coast Guard Agency.
 
The Rinker Factory charge Rinker Direct and Cambrian Boat Centre (the two sole authorised importers of Rinker Boats) a significant premium to build the boats for the UK to comply and each boat carries a CE plate fixed near the throttle. Each compliant boat also has a paper CE certificate.
 
It is very important if you are considering buying a new or used US made boat, that you ensure a CE plate is prominent and a paper certificate accompanies the various title documents.
 
For any further adice on this subject contact Rinker Direct or Cambrian or post your questions on this group.
 
Happy Boating
 
Graham
Rinker Direct
Eastbourne
Sussex

#27 From: "kendaldrive" <dbowen@...>
Date: Fri Apr 8, 2005 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: Buyer Beware - RCD/CE
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Hi Graham,

I think this is a very important topic which frightens people like
me who are looking to buy a used sportscruiser.  Is it safe to say
that if a boat has a CE certificate, then it meets the RCD
requirements? Or are CE and RCD two different things?


--- In Rinkerboats@..., "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@b...>
wrote:
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR ANYONE CONSIDERING BUYING A USED RINKER
BOAT (or any other US made boat)
>
> The EU inspired Recreational Craft Directive (RCD) came into force
in June 1998 and applies to all boats made in or imported into the
EU after that date.
>
> It is illegal to import a new or used boat that does not comply
with the RCD and it is a further offence to sell such a boat if it
exists in the EU. Most boats made for the USA market do not comply
as they are certified to a different standard set down by the US
Coast Guard Agency.
>
> The Rinker Factory charge Rinker Direct and Cambrian Boat Centre
(the two sole authorised importers of Rinker Boats) a significant
premium to build the boats for the UK to comply and each boat
carries a CE plate fixed near the throttle. Each compliant boat also
has a paper CE certificate.
>
> It is very important if you are considering buying a new or used
US made boat, that you ensure a CE plate is prominent and a paper
certificate accompanies the various title documents.
>
> For any further adice on this subject contact Rinker Direct or
Cambrian or post your questions on this group.
>
> Happy Boating
>
> Graham
> Rinker Direct
> Eastbourne
> Sussex

#28 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2005 8:33 am
Subject: Re: Re: Buyer Beware - RCD/CE
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----- Original Message ----- From: kendaldrive
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:14 PM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Re: Buyer Beware - RCD/CE
Hi Graham,
I think this is a very important topic which frightens people like
me who are looking to buy a used sportscruiser.  Is it safe to say
that if a boat has a CE certificate, then it meets the RCD
requirements? Or are CE and RCD two different things?
 
 
 
 
A CE plate and Certificate show the boat complies with the RCD. I would recommend you look at this subject a different way. Providing the boat you plan to buy is CE certified you know it has been built to a high standard. One aspect of the RCD which may interest you is that all boats from about 2.5m long upto 24m long are put into catagories A,B,C,D etc. Small sportscruisers such as the Rinker 232 are in group C. According to the RCD this boat is capable of handling mean wave heights of 6ft 7inches. That is far rougher than normal recreational boating in small craft. I have been out in a 232 with waves in the region of 10ft. Although only able to proceed at about 5mph the boat dealt with the sea very nicely and no water was taken on board, although I must confess to having had white knuckles :-))
 
Once you have confirmed the boat is CE certified you should concern yourself with more important matters. For example:
 
Debts attach to boats not the owner. So if you are buying privately check with the marina that the berth is fully paid up, ask the owner who last serviced the engine and then check with them to see if any bills remain unpaid. Make sure the owner can convince you with paper evidence that he actually owns the boat. Ask him if it was bought under finance.
 
Obviously you can avoid many potential problems by buying from a main dealer. As a main dealer we often face the same problems as you will, when buying privately. If a potential client has a boat to trade in against a new one we have to do all the checks I have previously mentioned. I feel the most important items are a good service history for the engine and a very clean and tidy boat which demonstates the owner cared about his boat.
 
Finally, make sure the boat you are planning to buy is big enough for your needs. The most common reason customers come to buy a new boat is because their current boat is not big enough !!!!
 
Graham
Rinker Direct
Eastbourne
 
 

#29 From: "jesmondbugeja" <jesmondbugeja@...>
Date: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:21 am
Subject: To Convert or not to Convert
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Hello ALL,

I recently joined this group although I am located in Malta. I hope
that that is fine and that you do not mind.
I have just received my boat which I bought from the States. It is a
Rinker Fiesta Vee 265 from 1995.
I have a question - As all the boats in the US, my boat is also wired
to run on 110V (Shore power). Here in Malta we have the same voltage
as in the UK (230V AC) so I have a problem when I am on the pontoon.
Do you have any suggestions on how to go about this problem? Shall I
rewire the boat and buy new appliances so that everything runs on
230V or shall I buy a stepdown transformer?
The applianced I have are: Fridge, TV/DVD, Battery Charger, Electric
cooker and a microware (but this I can get rid of).

Any suggestions are much appreciated.
Best Regards to all,
Jesmond

#30 From: "birlinglodge" <birlinglodge@...>
Date: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: To Convert or not to Convert
birlinglodge
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Hello Jesmond,

Its good to have members further afield and to get their response to
the Rinker range, both new and used craft.

You are like so many people who bring these craft in from USA,
avoiding the cost that the dealers have to make. However you are now
experiencing the problems to bring her to spec.

Putting a transformer in line will not solve your problem, and will
probably cause the marina shore power to trip out.

I speak from the experience of a Welcraft owner who grey imported!
After putting a transformer in the line,not only did he have
shorepower connection problems, but the kettle took TWENTY minutes
to boil! USA are not only 110v but the cycle range is different to
that of Europe.

The only sure way, is to completely replace the shore power system
with a European spec one.

Not only this but.... look at:
                             http://www.ceproof.com/RCD_ASB.htm

All craft in the EU must now conform to CE. This is a section from
their site:

CE Marking American Sports Boats (ASB)

American boats have always been cheaper in the US than Europe but
with the current low dollar, there have never been more boats
crossing the Atlantic. For the most part, the imports are used
sports boats.

If they have not been in service in the EU before, ASBs must be CE
marked before being sold or put into service - whatever the age of
the boat. If a dealer tells you otherwise, ask him to refer you to a
document that can verify this. He won't be able to!

CEproof has already CE marked a large range of ASBs for its clients.
Our familiarity with the fittings and arrangements of these types of
boat allows us to offer a lower fee than would normally be the case.

  Jesmond,

I'm not sure but I think Malta comes under this rule. It would be
adviseable to check!

I don't mean to put a dampner on things, but this is a legal night
mare.

I know I am the dealer for Rinker in UK, so don't wan't to see these
grey imports, but believe me if I could buy these boats and sell
them at a profit, I probably would. The answer is I can't. It just
is not viable! The odd few that have tried have all given up and
gone away, and where does that leave you the purchaser?

You will see on their page just how much CeProof charge just to
inspect the craft after the work has been done to bring the craft to
spec.

To come back to your original question, If the TV, Fridge etc,...
are US Spec, you will have to change them to European.

The boats wiring will take 230v but the shorpower distribution box
will not!

Hope this helps, and good luck!

Trevor

Rinker Boats UK

--- In Rinkerboats@..., "jesmondbugeja"
<jesmondbugeja@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello ALL,
>
> I recently joined this group although I am located in Malta. I
hope
> that that is fine and that you do not mind.
> I have just received my boat which I bought from the States. It is
a
> Rinker Fiesta Vee 265 from 1995.
> I have a question - As all the boats in the US, my boat is also
wired
> to run on 110V (Shore power). Here in Malta we have the same
voltage
> as in the UK (230V AC) so I have a problem when I am on the
pontoon.
> Do you have any suggestions on how to go about this problem? Shall
I
> rewire the boat and buy new appliances so that everything runs on
> 230V or shall I buy a stepdown transformer?
> The applianced I have are: Fridge, TV/DVD, Battery Charger,
Electric
> cooker and a microware (but this I can get rid of).
>
> Any suggestions are much appreciated.
> Best Regards to all,
> Jesmond

#31 From: Jesmond Bugeja <jesmondbugeja@...>
Date: Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: Re: To Convert or not to Convert
jesmondbugeja
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Hello Trevor,
 
Thanks a lot for your reply. I will check about the law you mentioned. We are now in the EU so it must apply to us as well. Regarding the wiring, I belive that it is the most sensible thing to do to avoid problems.
 
Thanks & Best Regards,
Jezz
 


birlinglodge <birlinglodge@...> wrote:

Hello Jesmond,

Its good to have members further afield and to get their response to
the Rinker range, both new and used craft.

You are like so many people who bring these craft in from USA,
avoiding the cost that the dealers have to make. However you are now
experiencing the problems to bring her to spec.

Putting a transformer in line will not solve your problem, and will
probably cause the marina shore power to trip out.

I speak from the experience of a Welcraft owner who grey imported!
After putting a transformer in the line,not only did he have
shorepower connection problems, but the kettle took TWENTY minutes
to boil! USA are not only 110v but the cycle range is different to
that of Europe.

The only sure way, is to completely replace the shore power system
with a European spec one.

Not only this but.... look at:
                            http://www.ceproof.com/RCD_ASB.htm 

All craft in the EU must now conform to CE. This is a section from
their site:

CE Marking American Sports Boats (ASB)
 
American boats have always been cheaper in the US than Europe but
with the current low dollar, there have never been more boats
crossing the Atlantic. For the most part, the imports are used
sports boats.

If they have not been in service in the EU before, ASBs must be CE
marked before being sold or put into service - whatever the age of
the boat. If a dealer tells you otherwise, ask him to refer you to a
document that can verify this. He won't be able to!

CEproof has already CE marked a large range of ASBs for its clients.
Our familiarity with the fittings and arrangements of these types of
boat allows us to offer a lower fee than would normally be the case.

Jesmond,

I'm not sure but I think Malta comes under this rule. It would be
adviseable to check!

I don't mean to put a dampner on things, but this is a legal night
mare.

I know I am the dealer for Rinker in UK, so don't wan't to see these
grey imports, but believe me if I could buy these boats and sell
them at a profit, I probably would. The answer is I can't. It just
is not viable! The odd few that have tried have all given up and
gone away, and where does that leave you the purchaser?

You will see on their page just how much CeProof charge just to
inspect the craft after the work has been done to bring the craft to
spec.

To come back to your original question, If the TV, Fridge etc,...
are US Spec, you will have to change them to European.

The boats wiring will take 230v but the shorpower distribution box
will not!

Hope this helps, and good luck!

Trevor

Rinker Boats UK

--- In Rinkerboats@..., "jesmondbugeja"
<jesmondbugeja@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello ALL,
>
> I recently joined this group although I am located in Malta. I
hope
> that that is fine and that you do not mind.
> I have just received my boat which I bought from the States. It is
a
> Rinker Fiesta Vee 265 from 1995.
> I have a question - As all the boats in the US, my boat is also
wired
> to run on 110V (Shore power). Here in Malta we have the same
voltage
> as in the UK (230V AC) so I have a problem when I am on the
pontoon.
> Do you have any suggestions on how to go about this problem? Shall
I
> rewire the boat and buy new appliances so that everything runs on
> 230V or shall I buy a stepdown transformer?
> The applianced I have are: Fridge, TV/DVD, Battery Charger,
Electric
> cooker and a microware (but this I can get rid of).
>
> Any suggestions are much appreciated.
> Best Regards to all,
> Jesmond




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#32 From: "jesmondbugeja" <jesmondbugeja@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:16 pm
Subject: Rinker Parts Online
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Dear All,

Do you know of any Rinker Parts website where one can order on line?
I might be needing an engine temp gauge for my Fiesta Vee 265 from
1995.

Thanks & Kind Regards,
Jesmond

#33 From: "jesmondbugeja" <jesmondbugeja@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:22 pm
Subject: Leakage from Shower/toilet
jesmondbugeja
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Hi All,

Last Saturday I was washing the toilet/shower of my Rinker Fiesta
Vee265 from 1995 and noticed that the carpet just outside the
entrance to the toilet got soaked. Can it be the sealer between the
door and the bottom of the shower (from the inside) or can it be a
leakage from the shower drain pipes underneath the shower? There is a
wooden strip with carpet wound on it just under the door from the
outside - I tried to remove this to see if I can look under the
bottom of the shower but to no avail. Is this strip glued or is there
a screw hidden somewhere?

Thanks in advance for all replies.
Kind regards,
Jesmond

#34 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: Leakage from Shower/toilet
graham349074
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Does the carpet also get wet when you use the shower?  Also, check to see that the automatic shower drain pump is working.
Tell me your answers and we will try and give you more info.
Graham
Rinker UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:22 PM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Leakage from Shower/toilet


Hi All,

Last Saturday I was washing the toilet/shower of my Rinker Fiesta
Vee265 from 1995 and noticed that the carpet just outside the
entrance to the toilet got soaked. Can it be the sealer between the
door and the bottom of the shower (from the inside) or can it be a
leakage from the shower drain pipes underneath the shower? There is a
wooden strip with carpet wound on it just under the door from the
outside - I tried to remove this to see if I can look under the
bottom of the shower but to no avail. Is this strip glued or is there
a screw hidden somewhere?

Thanks in advance for all replies.
Kind regards,
Jesmond





#35 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Rinker Parts Online
graham349074
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Your nearest Rinker dealer can probably help you get the right temp gauge. He will need to know which brand it is and what it looks like. A photo would help him.
Graham
Rinker UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Rinker Parts Online


Dear All,

Do you know of any Rinker Parts website where one can order on line?
I might be needing an engine temp gauge for my Fiesta Vee 265 from
1995.

Thanks & Kind Regards,
Jesmond





#36 From: Jesmond Bugeja <jesmondbugeja@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: Leakage from Shower/toilet
jesmondbugeja
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Hello Graham and thank you for your reply.
 
Yes, the carpet gets wet when I use the shower. The shower drain is working cause I can hear the pump - mine is manually activated through a switch not automatic.
 
Thanks & Kind regards
Jesmond


GRAHAM POORE <etubeuk@...> wrote:
Does the carpet also get wet when you use the shower?  Also, check to see that the automatic shower drain pump is working.
Tell me your answers and we will try and give you more info.
Graham
Rinker UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:22 PM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Leakage from Shower/toilet


Hi All,

Last Saturday I was washing the toilet/shower of my Rinker Fiesta
Vee265 from 1995 and noticed that the carpet just outside the
entrance to the toilet got soaked. Can it be the sealer between the
door and the bottom of the shower (from the inside) or can it be a
leakage from the shower drain pipes underneath the shower? There is a
wooden strip with carpet wound on it just under the door from the
outside - I tried to remove this to see if I can look under the
bottom of the shower but to no avail. Is this strip glued or is there
a screw hidden somewhere?

Thanks in advance for all replies.
Kind regards,
Jesmond





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#37 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:09 am
Subject: Re: Leakage from Shower/toilet
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You need to turn the shower on, have a large amount of water on the shower floor then turn the pump on and then look at the pump to see if the area around the pump is dry or wet. Also make sure a good flow of pumped water is exiting from the side of the hull.
Check also whether or not the shower pump is also the forward bilge pump or whether you have a seperate bilge pump in the forward area.  Whilst you are doing this keep in mind that the forward bilge area should be completely dry, so if you find water you definitely have a leak and the final step is to trace the leak. Try to give me more info. For example when the carpet starts to get wet is it at the lowest point or up the side under the door. Does the carpet get wet when water is lying in the shower and before you turn the pump on or does it only get wet after you turn the pump on.
Graham
Rinker UK
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Rinkerboats] Leakage from Shower/toilet

Hello Graham and thank you for your reply.
 
Yes, the carpet gets wet when I use the shower. The shower drain is working cause I can hear the pump - mine is manually activated through a switch not automatic.
 
Thanks & Kind regards
Jesmond

#38 From: Jesmond Bugeja <jesmondbugeja@...>
Date: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:07 am
Subject: Re: Leakage from Shower/toilet
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Dear Graham,
 
Thank you for your interest in my problem. The carpet gets wet before I start the pump. It gets wet at the lowest point under the door. I am suspecting that it is the silicone at the bottom of the shower - on the inside - just under the door - which is leaking. I will start from here by applying new silicone and hope it solves the problem because otherwise I am in deep trouble - cause the spaces under the shower are very confined.
Under the door from the outside there is a strip of wood with a piece of carpet round it - apparently holding the carpet which is laid on the cabin floor. Do you know if this has some screws on it or is it glued?
 
Thanks & Kind regards,
Jesmond
 
 
 


GRAHAM POORE <etubeuk@...> wrote:
You need to turn the shower on, have a large amount of water on the shower floor then turn the pump on and then look at the pump to see if the area around the pump is dry or wet. Also make sure a good flow of pumped water is exiting from the side of the hull.
Check also whether or not the shower pump is also the forward bilge pump or whether you have a seperate bilge pump in the forward area.  Whilst you are doing this keep in mind that the forward bilge area should be completely dry, so if you find water you definitely have a leak and the final step is to trace the leak. Try to give me more info. For example when the carpet starts to get wet is it at the lowest point or up the side under the door. Does the carpet get wet when water is lying in the shower and before you turn the pump on or does it only get wet after you turn the pump on.
Graham
Rinker UK
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Rinkerboats] Leakage from Shower/toilet

Hello Graham and thank you for your reply.
 
Yes, the carpet gets wet when I use the shower. The shower drain is working cause I can hear the pump - mine is manually activated through a switch not automatic.
 
Thanks & Kind regards
Jesmond

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#39 From: Jesmond Bugeja <jesmondbugeja@...>
Date: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:13 am
Subject: Re: Rinker Parts Online
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Hello Graham,
 
We have only one Rinker dealer where I am who is poorly stocked and he has to order almost everything. So why bother to order from him if there is an online website. I can be cheaper as well - for example if the dealer is in Spain, I only pay 12% vat instead of 18% (What we have here in Malta). They might have a better price as well.
 
Kind regards, Jesmond
 


GRAHAM POORE <etubeuk@...> wrote:
Your nearest Rinker dealer can probably help you get the right temp gauge. He will need to know which brand it is and what it looks like. A photo would help him.
Graham
Rinker UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] Rinker Parts Online


Dear All,

Do you know of any Rinker Parts website where one can order on line?
I might be needing an engine temp gauge for my Fiesta Vee 265 from
1995.

Thanks & Kind Regards,
Jesmond





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#40 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Leakage from Shower/toilet
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Jesmond  The problem we have is that we became the Rinker dealer in 1997 and have no experience of the 265. I think your best plan is to gain as much access as you can and with a torch try to locate the leak, also if you encounter a big problem email Randy Rinker at the factory. He is very helpful and might be able to answer any specific questions you have.
Let me know how you get on. The piece of wood will be screwed not glued.
Graham
Rinker UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Rinkerboats] Leakage from Shower/toilet

Dear Graham,
 
Thank you for your interest in my problem. The carpet gets wet before I start the pump. It gets wet at the lowest point under the door. I am suspecting that it is the silicone at the bottom of the shower - on the inside - just under the door - which is leaking. I will start from here by applying new silicone and hope it solves the problem because otherwise I am in deep trouble - cause the spaces under the shower are very confined.
Under the door from the outside there is a strip of wood with a piece of carpet round it - apparently holding the carpet which is laid on the cabin floor. Do you know if this has some screws on it or is it glued?
 
Thanks & Kind regards,
Jesmond

#41 From: "rover20td" <rover20td@...>
Date: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:53 pm
Subject: New Member and Rinker Owner
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Hi,
I have just purchased a 2003 Rinker 232 Captiva cuddy with 5.0 MPI
and Bravo 3. Spotted this site and being an Internet junkie and
boataholic it seemed perfect. Collect boat on Sunday then off to
mooring in River Frome (Ridge Wharf) off Poole Harbour.

Seems a fantastic boat from brief sea trial - just sold a 98 18'
Four Winns Horizon Bowrider with a 4.3 Volvo which was decent
enough - but what have I got to look forward to now ?

SW

#42 From: "Alistair" <alistair-richardson@...>
Date: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:55 am
Subject: Re: New Member and Rinker Owner
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Hi SW,
Well what can we say, what a fine fine boat you have just purchased.
I too have the exact same boat, engine and leg, bought new in 2003,
so i know the boat well.
  It is fabulous, Looks great, runs fantastic, and compared to all
the rivals is one of the best built boat on the market.

Performance, if you limit the weight, and when the bum is clean, you
can hit 50mph, general cruising i cruise about 35-40mph, with enough
power in reserve to have a quick blast!!!
Turning is excelent, if you throw it into a tight turn at speed, it
will bite well, but you do need to trim down a bit, so as not too
get prop cavitation.
All in all, a great boat, and i don't think theres anything i'd
recommend you change on it or fit too it.

Just enjoy it.

Also we like too look at pictures, Please feel free to create an
Album in the Photos page on here and please share the photos of your
new boat, for us all to view.

Pics of my boat can be seen on there or,
Here,
http://arweb.co.uk/argallery/alistair

All the best,

Alistair.
Group Moderator & Rinker 232 Owner.
:)

BTW, just for research, How did you come about finding this site?



--- In Rinkerboats@..., "rover20td" <rover20td@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have just purchased a 2003 Rinker 232 Captiva cuddy with 5.0 MPI
> and Bravo 3. Spotted this site and being an Internet junkie and
> boataholic it seemed perfect. Collect boat on Sunday then off to
> mooring in River Frome (Ridge Wharf) off Poole Harbour.
>
> Seems a fantastic boat from brief sea trial - just sold a 98 18'
> Four Winns Horizon Bowrider with a 4.3 Volvo which was decent
> enough - but what have I got to look forward to now ?
>
> SW

#43 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: New Member and Rinker Owner
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Compared to your Four Winns the Rinker 232 with its after plane hull and 21degree deadrise will seem terrific. If you have any questions about your boat then do not hessitate to post your questions on this group and we will do our best to supply the answers. Spare parts can be obtained from the original importer who will be either us at Rinker Direct in Eastbourne or Cambrian Boat Centre in Swansea. The original importer will be seen from the documents you have when you bought your boat.
Hope you enjoy it and fingers crossed for some good summer weather.
Regards
Graham
Rinker Direct
 
----- Original Message -----
From: rover20td
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:53 PM
Subject: [Rinkerboats] New Member and Rinker Owner


Hi,
I have just purchased a 2003 Rinker 232 Captiva cuddy with 5.0 MPI
and Bravo 3. Spotted this site and being an Internet junkie and
boataholic it seemed perfect. Collect boat on Sunday then off to
mooring in River Frome (Ridge Wharf) off Poole Harbour.

Seems a fantastic boat from brief sea trial - just sold a 98 18'
Four Winns Horizon Bowrider with a 4.3 Volvo which was decent
enough - but what have I got to look forward to now ?

SW





#44 From: "rover20td" <rover20td@...>
Date: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: New Member and Rinker Owner
rover20td
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Thanks for the welcome, where can I get a club burgee ?

And the first of many questions - how bad is the MPI fuel
consumption on an average trip (compared to my Carb 4.3 before) ?

Thanks

Steve


--- In Rinkerboats@..., "Alistair" <alistair-
richardson@t...> wrote:
>
> Hi SW,
> Well what can we say, what a fine fine boat you have just
purchased.
> I too have the exact same boat, engine and leg, bought new in
2003,
> so i know the boat well.
>  It is fabulous, Looks great, runs fantastic, and compared to all
> the rivals is one of the best built boat on the market.
>
> Performance, if you limit the weight, and when the bum is clean,
you
> can hit 50mph, general cruising i cruise about 35-40mph, with
enough
> power in reserve to have a quick blast!!!
> Turning is excelent, if you throw it into a tight turn at speed,
it
> will bite well, but you do need to trim down a bit, so as not too
> get prop cavitation.
> All in all, a great boat, and i don't think theres anything i'd
> recommend you change on it or fit too it.
>
> Just enjoy it.
>
> Also we like too look at pictures, Please feel free to create an
> Album in the Photos page on here and please share the photos of
your
> new boat, for us all to view.
>
> Pics of my boat can be seen on there or,
> Here,
> http://arweb.co.uk/argallery/alistair
>
> All the best,
>
> Alistair.
> Group Moderator & Rinker 232 Owner.
> :)
>
> BTW, just for research, How did you come about finding this site?
>
>
>
> --- In Rinkerboats@..., "rover20td" <rover20td@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I have just purchased a 2003 Rinker 232 Captiva cuddy with 5.0
MPI
> > and Bravo 3. Spotted this site and being an Internet junkie and
> > boataholic it seemed perfect. Collect boat on Sunday then off to
> > mooring in River Frome (Ridge Wharf) off Poole Harbour.
> >
> > Seems a fantastic boat from brief sea trial - just sold a 98 18'
> > Four Winns Horizon Bowrider with a 4.3 Volvo which was decent
> > enough - but what have I got to look forward to now ?
> >
> > SW

#45 From: "GRAHAM POORE" <etubeuk@...>
Date: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:35 am
Subject: Re: Re: New Member and Rinker Owner
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The figures from tests done by Rinker indicate you can expect your 232 to consume about 30% more than an 18ft. bow rider running at cruising speed. Keep in mind your 232 with people, water and fuel on board will weight about 2500kg but your Four Winns would weight about 1250kg. Some tests done recently (by Volvo I think) show that 4.3L and 5.0L and 5.7L  MPI engines have a broadly similar fuel consumption related to the power output. So for example if you operate all these engines at say 130php they all consume roughly the same amount of fuel.
 
Your 232 with 5.0L MPI Bravo 3 achieves its best miles per gallon at 3200rpm which in calm water with a clean hull gives 28mph. Consumpton is around 8 gallons per hour. Cruising down a river at say 4mph consumes just under 1 gallon per hour and absolutely flat out throttle right down trimmed up and at 45 to 47mph consumpton rockets upto 17 gallons per hour.
Also keep in mind that in ideal conditions your range on a full tank is over 200miles but in rough water conditions this could plummet to about 90miles.
 
Finally if you ever carried a 5 gallon jerry can of fuel you will know how heavy it is. Your 232 fuel tank holds 15 of these and you are paying for extra fuel consumption to carry this around with if you run with a full tank. So only carry enough fuel for your needs plus a good safety margin. The only other time we would recommend having a full fuel tank is if the boat is not going to be used for a long period. In this case fill the tank to reduce the risk of condensation and water in the the tank.
 
Hope this of interest
 
Graham
Rinker Direct
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: rover20td

Thanks for the welcome, where can I get a club burgee ?

And the first of many questions - how bad is the MPI fuel
consumption on an average trip (compared to my Carb 4.3 before) ?

#46 From: Jesmond Bugeja <jesmondbugeja@...>
Date: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:34 am
Subject: Re: Leakage from Shower/toilet
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Thank you Graham for all your kind help and suggestions. You are an asset to this group.
 
Best Regards, Jesmond
 


GRAHAM POORE <etubeuk@...> wrote:
Jesmond  The problem we have is that we became the Rinker dealer in 1997 and have no experience of the 265. I think your best plan is to gain as much access as you can and with a torch try to locate the leak, also if you encounter a big problem email Randy Rinker at the factory. He is very helpful and might be able to answer any specific questions you have.
Let me know how you get on. The piece of wood will be screwed not glued.
Graham
Rinker UK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Rinkerboats] Leakage from Shower/toilet

Dear Graham,
 
Thank you for your interest in my problem. The carpet gets wet before I start the pump. It gets wet at the lowest point under the door. I am suspecting that it is the silicone at the bottom of the shower - on the inside - just under the door - which is leaking. I will start from here by applying new silicone and hope it solves the problem because otherwise I am in deep trouble - cause the spaces under the shower are very confined.
Under the door from the outside there is a strip of wood with a piece of carpet round it - apparently holding the carpet which is laid on the cabin floor. Do you know if this has some screws on it or is it glued?
 
Thanks & Kind regards,
Jesmond

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#47 From: "Alistair" <alistair-richardson@...>
Date: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:21 am
Subject: Re: New Member and Rinker Owner
bty185097
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Hi Steve,

Graham being a Rinker dealer will know these boats better than
anyone else, his reply to your question is excelent. The figures
quoted are i think from Rinker themselves. But in reality, I AS AN
OWNER, do not concider it too be as thirsty as that!
I do not like to keep a note on how much it costs to run a boat, any
boat, as i think it would probably scare me!!!  We just enjoy it
regardless of the running costs.
I did however do a series of tests last summer to calculate how much
fuel it used.
Nothing scientific, but i generally keep the tank full all the time,
so i can calculate the GPH between fill ups. Last year i worked out
with general use, which meant cruising about 35mph i was getting
4.3GPH, and if i blasted everywhere i was getting about 11gph. Now
thats full fuel, full water, twin batteries, full shore power setup
with charger, diesel Eberspacher and alot of food, drink, duvets and
clothes.
That is a whole lot better than i expected, I would guess its not
entirally accurate, but it must be fairly close, and i am very happy.
If i knew then what i know now, i would probably have ordered it
with the 350mag purely cause i'm a speed freak, the reason i didn't
was cause of worry about consumption.
Interesting to hear what any other 232 owner has to say regarding
consumption??

[quote]where can I get a club burgee ?[quote]
I wish i knew!!!

The truth is, there isn't one!!  Well not at the moment. I have
registered http://www.rinkerownersclub.co.uk which at the moment is
link to this group, but i hope we as a group can develop it into a
good owners website, with more features, and hopefully someone will
come along and design a burgee for us and we can all fly it!!

All help is much appreciated.

Cheers

Alistair.
http://arweb.co.uk/argallery/alistair




--- In Rinkerboats@..., "rover20td" <rover20td@y...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for the welcome, where can I get a club burgee ?
>
> And the first of many questions - how bad is the MPI fuel
> consumption on an average trip (compared to my Carb 4.3 before) ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
>

#48 From: "Alistair" <alistair-richardson@...>
Date: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:29 am
Subject: Re: New Member and Rinker Owner
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I've just noticed the pictures in the ablum 'Spirits Fly'

I take it thats your new boat???

If so, i am jealous all ready, YOU'VE got the 'Corsa Quick and Quiet
Exhaust'!!!
Another option, i wish i'd taken.

Enjoy.

Alistair.
http://arweb.co.uk/argallery/alistair



--- In Rinkerboats@..., "rover20td" <rover20td@y...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for the welcome, where can I get a club burgee ?
>
> And the first of many questions - how bad is the MPI fuel
> consumption on an average trip (compared to my Carb 4.3 before) ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In Rinkerboats@..., "Alistair" <alistair-
> richardson@t...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi SW,
> > Well what can we say, what a fine fine boat you have just
> purchased.
> > I too have the exact same boat, engine and leg, bought new in
> 2003,
> > so i know the boat well.
> >  It is fabulous, Looks great, runs fantastic, and compared to
all
> > the rivals is one of the best built boat on the market.
> >
> > Performance, if you limit the weight, and when the bum is clean,
> you
> > can hit 50mph, general cruising i cruise about 35-40mph, with
> enough
> > power in reserve to have a quick blast!!!
> > Turning is excelent, if you throw it into a tight turn at speed,
> it
> > will bite well, but you do need to trim down a bit, so as not
too
> > get prop cavitation.
> > All in all, a great boat, and i don't think theres anything i'd
> > recommend you change on it or fit too it.
> >
> > Just enjoy it.
> >
> > Also we like too look at pictures, Please feel free to create an
> > Album in the Photos page on here and please share the photos of
> your
> > new boat, for us all to view.
> >
> > Pics of my boat can be seen on there or,
> > Here,
> > http://arweb.co.uk/argallery/alistair
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Alistair.
> > Group Moderator & Rinker 232 Owner.
> > :)
> >
> > BTW, just for research, How did you come about finding this site?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Rinkerboats@..., "rover20td"
<rover20td@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have just purchased a 2003 Rinker 232 Captiva cuddy with 5.0
> MPI
> > > and Bravo 3. Spotted this site and being an Internet junkie
and
> > > boataholic it seemed perfect. Collect boat on Sunday then off
to
> > > mooring in River Frome (Ridge Wharf) off Poole Harbour.
> > >
> > > Seems a fantastic boat from brief sea trial - just sold a 98
18'
> > > Four Winns Horizon Bowrider with a 4.3 Volvo which was decent
> > > enough - but what have I got to look forward to now ?
> > >
> > > SW

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