just a quick msg to say hi and how about us finding out where we all
are, for example I'm from Borehamwood in Herts, if a few of us are
reasonably closish how about a meet somewhere? or alternatively is
anyone going to the BMF Tail End event at Peterborough w/e of 15 sept?
regards,
Geoff

hi everyone and merry xmas/happy new year, I have pulled the group
membership of jerry4ride, I had a look at the sites he was plugging
and its basically a site to contact "hot sexy biker women and blokes
etc" sorry if this has upset anyone, I know we are not the most active
of sites but it is a bike orientated site not a contact for personals,
if any one has a prob with this send me an email, regards Geoff

I can report that Hagons have finally got their act together and now
produce a shock for the S, it is based on their R unit but without the
spring and utilises mounting plates and spacers much like the White
Power set up, its a straight replacement for the dodgy rotary damper
and is priced at £255uk which includes postage and vat, take my word
for it - IT WORKS

dont know if any one here is an ex Planet user now Zone?? cos I have
posted this there as well...but in case not just some info that may be
of interest - Hagons WILL have a unit available for the S in about 8
weeks priced same as the rest of their monoshocks £255 in uk

Tim,
say your post on the Planet.
I got mine from Steve and did the write up on replacement.
You can't go wrong mate.
Col (Chats)

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Geoff,

I should have mentioned that it is a TLS.  That is why I was specifying
the Bitubo particularly - I'd not come across any others that replaced
the spring on the S.  I'm glad to see that I was correct - it doesn't
happen often. ;-)

I placed a similar request in another place (TLPlanet) and have spoken
to guy who is happy to sell me one he has already.  This will mean I
don't have to wait for the factory lead times etc. and can be back on
the road ASAP.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Tim

Geoff Bergman wrote:
> Is that on an S Tim or the R, the Bitubo is the only unit that I know
> of that replaces both the spring & rotary on the S whereas there are a
> few for the R, let me know & I will price up for you (yes I can get
> them .... I have a recollection they were priced same for S & R models)
> regards,
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Is that on an S Tim or the R, the Bitubo is the only unit that I know
of that replaces both the spring & rotary on the S whereas there are a
few for the R, let me know & I will price up for you (yes I can get
them .... I have a recollection they were priced same for S & R models)
regards,
Geoff

Mine went sometime during last week - found it while cleaning the bike
on Sunday.  It probably explains the evil handling I was experiencing
towards the end of the week....

Where did you get a Bitubo from?  I've sent emails to both the company
and a supplier in the states but I'm yet to hear anything back.

I use the TL as day to day transport and after two days in the car I'm
bored out of my crust!

Ideally I could do with finding a fix before the end of the week!  Is
there anything other than the Bitubo that sits in the place of
the 'spring-on-a-stick' because obviously the damper side fixing is
now US.

--- In TAS-Cult@..., "Col" <c4col@u...> wrote:
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> This happened to my TL 2 years ago. Frame was replaced by Suzuki.
> Binned the rotary damper. Now run a Bitubo shock with fantastic
results.
> Best mod you can do to a TL.

hi all, if anyone is interested I have a brand new Hagon shok for a
TLR, it replaces both the rotary damper & stock spring, they retail at
£255, I want £200 for it, its still in its box.......... call me at
work on 01707 265000 if you are interested, I bought it hoping it
would fit a TLS but got round that a different way,
regards,
Geoff

Hi Geoff

The frame was welded. I had it done in Hertford at a place near the Harris
people. I believe
Harris take bits to this guy.
I can't remember his name at the moment. I'll try and find his details for you,
as he did an
excellent job.

Chris

thats interesting Chris, do you know how the repair was carried out,
was it a weld job or an additional bolt on repair? regards Geoff

Also happened to my TL. Suzuki would not replace the frame but I had it repaired
very nicely and it's been fine since.
I ditched the rotary damper in favour of a Maxton unit. No problems since.
Chris

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This happened to my TL 2 years ago. Frame was replaced by Suzuki.
Binned the rotary damper. Now run a Bitubo shock with fantastic results.
Best mod you can do to a TL.


--- In TAS-Cult@..., "Geoff Bergman" <tek4gb@y...> wrote:
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> been hearing a few horror stories about TL frames cracking across the
> web that mounts the rear shok, according to my source this occurs
when
> the rotary goes off and occasionaly locks up ... has anyone heard of
> this or similar? my source reckons this is causing insurance
companies
> to write the bike off? had a word with the engineering company we use
> & they reckon they would be able to fix, hmm.. will post any further
> info that I hear, Geoff
>

hi David, Ive had the opportunity now to ride TLS's with the std
rotary, White Power, Ohlins and my own unit and a TLR with std rotary
& the Hagon unit, bottom line is both the TLS & TLR rotary's are as
bad as each other, bloody scary & totally unpredictable, typical dopey
b*std that I am I thought ..they cant be that bad, I even tried them
less the steering dampers to get a true response ... aargh.. dont go
there.. I have to say the Ohlins is the best I have tried, so supple &
responsive yet totally under control, it completely transforms the
bike, but I also have to say Hagons dont half run it close, they have
after all developed it from a Koni unit which is what Maxton use.. if
you are any where near Hertfordshire you are more than welcome to try
it for yourself, I rate it & will be keeping one on my own TLS,
incidently Hagons also do progressive spring kit for the bike as well,
I can get 10% off their products for TAS members, I'm going to try &
sell my old WP unit & the TEK unit on ebay if you are interested,
regards, Geoff

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> I own a 97 Tl1000s, anybody tried different rear suspension, Ohlins,
> Maxton etc? What about their fork springs, worth the money?
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> I use the bike for fast road and trackdays so it could be more track
> based if it so needed.
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> Any feedback would be great, as I read reviews but word of mouth is
> always better.
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> Regards
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Tuckshop again,
Forgot to say, Tekmotive do one that is pretty good and alot cheaper.
Uses quality bits and they will fit it and set it up for you. Takes a
few hours and you can watch and chat. Ring 01707 265000 for prices and
info.

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> I own a 97 Tl1000s, anybody tried different rear suspension,
Ohlins,
> Maxton etc? What about their fork springs, worth the money?
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> I use the bike for fast road and trackdays so it could be more
track
> based if it so needed.
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> Any feedback would be great, as I read reviews but word of mouth is
> always better.
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> Regards
>
From Tuckshop,
I have a '97 TL.
I put up with the standard rotary damper for a while but I was
getting a lot of weaving and bucking at high speeds, especially in
high speed corners. I looked around and their were offering from
quite a few firms, Ohlins, White power, Pro-tek etc. All were very
expensive. Some replaced the damper and the shock (up the side) and
some just replaced the damper.
In the end I decided to go for an Ohlins unit. This was due to the
build quality, the reputation and availability.
The fit was good and easy to do with adjustment simple as well. Full
fitting instruction were enclosed.
The weaving has gone and the handling is much better.
I would recommend the change to anyone.
I am a big bugger and this did minimise the effects of the original
damper but I am glad I made te change.
As for the front forks, I have found that I bottom them out a lot and
have turn up the pre-load to maximum and this helps. If you leave the
rebound and damping alone it just stiffens up the springs. I will get
the fork springs changed in the near future. You can get some
progressive springs that are alledged to help and a guy I have spoken
to who races the TL has suggested I follow in his footsteps to get a
set of uprated springs from Maxton or Hagon. You can get a bespoke
set by speaking to them and telling what you want them for and
telling how big you are. He did say his were 2 kilo springs and they
did occasionally bottom out.
Hope this helps.

I own a 97 Tl1000s, anybody tried different rear suspension, Ohlins,
Maxton etc? What about their fork springs, worth the money?

I use the bike for fast road and trackdays so it could be more track
based if it so needed.

Any feedback would be great, as I read reviews but word of mouth is
always better.

Regards

just a msg announcing several FILES & a PHOTO have been uploaded to
the TAS group site, regards, Geoff

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
TAS-Cult group:

Thought it might be interesting to start a poll on the
subject of tyres ... whats your favourite? doesnt just
have to be restricted to TL thous, maybe you own another
bike or you have a preference from a previous bike, have
used the samples listed as I think they are probably the
most common choices, but correct me if you think I'm
wrong, Geoff

   o Avon AV45/AV46
   o Avon New Vipers
   o Bridgestone BT020
   o Bridgestone BT010
   o Bridgestone BT014
   o Continental Force
   o Continental Road Attack
   o Dunlop D207
   o Dunlop D208
   o Dunlop D207RR
   o Dunlop D208RR
   o Metzeler M1 Sportec
   o Metzeler Z6 Roadtec
   o Michelin Macadam
   o Michelin Pilot Road
   o Michelin Pilot Power/Sport
   o Pirelli Evo Dragons
   o Pirelli Diablo


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Thanks!

Bought myself some stainless fasteners (bolts, nuts washers etc) to
replace some of my manky old salt attacked ones, unbelievable I only
had most of these out just after buying the bike, copaslipped them etc
& half of them are corroded in solid..... just spent half the day
drilling out heel & adjuster plate bolts on my rearsets, going to try
the rear subframe & brake reservoir bolts next then have a go at the
engine case fasteners.... ah well something to do over winter...

Has any one else got any horror stories or even good stories... feel
free to share them, regards Geoff

Hi and thanks for joining the TAS group, hope you have had the
opportunity to have a look round the site and that you find it useful,
feel free to upload any files or links you think the rest of us may
find useful and we would love to see some pics of your bikes in the
photos gallery, if there is any particular issue or subject you may
have a query on pls ask, you never know one of us may have the answer -
  or know a man that does...regards, Geoff (if you have chosen not to
recieve emails pls accept my apology it shouldnt occur again but I
thought I would just like to say hi and welcome)

been hearing a few horror stories about TL frames cracking across the
web that mounts the rear shok, according to my source this occurs when
the rotary goes off and occasionaly locks up ... has anyone heard of
this or similar? my source reckons this is causing insurance companies
to write the bike off? had a word with the engineering company we use
& they reckon they would be able to fix, hmm.. will post any further
info that I hear, Geoff

have scanned and uploaded salient stuff from road test in BIKE
magazine dated August 1998 ......... enjoy it, regards, Geoff

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dont spend £uk500 plus changing that dodgy rear rotary damper,
have a look at tekmotive.co.uk for an alternative, tried, tested,
recomended, got one on my own TLS

dont accept pops bangs and occassional cutting out/stalling -
whatever ecu, cans, air filter you have fitted, the Power Commander
sorts it - take my word for it...

only bought it after riding my brothers.... awesome... 97 TL1000S,
red, dunlop D207RR tyres (excellent), Viper cans with db killers
(slightly modified) K&N air filter, timing retarder disconnected,
Power Commander (mapped by Tekmotive.co.uk), rotary rear  damper
junked for White Power unit currently replaced by Tekmotive Racing
Development unit for trial (no problems so far, easily as good as the
White Power for a lot less money), forks dropped 15mm & RGV bars
fitted above the top yoke (flatter, higher, wider & retains all
original stuff), EBC heavy duty clutch plates but with std springs
(heavy duty EBC springs were hard work...) got a few other additions
in mind - watch this space..Luv it.... Geoff