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Re: Looking for info on Alfred Danikel andSon barge

--- In Thames_Barges@..., Dave Schwain <dschwain@y...>
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Well ... I'm like dog with a bone on this!

(a) what is the total number of letters involved in the name - both
legible and illegible?

(b) do the letters form a single contiguous [smart word :-)] word?

(c) you've got 2 dashes in your name. Does that represent just two
illegible lettes in that perticular position - or what?

(d) do you think there's a "dash" in the middle of the word which
might separate the barges name from a second word e.g. a port of
registration?

Try looking at the name in different coloured light ideally blue and
red and at different angles to help pick out colour!

We should be able to crack this - the identifiable sequence of
letters are quite helpful in a way.

My semi-guess would be based on this skeleton entry in a lsit I hold:

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VERHEYDEN, P., (????-????): ????, Dunkirk, France, ????-????; owner
SB Gravelines I [ex Ena 1905)], 1905-1912; [NB should 1905 be 1906?]
SB Gravelines II [ex Hilda (1906)]; 1907-1912;


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How about "Gravelines"? Would that fit? Then there's the "ppieps"
bit. I wonder if Verheyeden registered her in Dieppe? Problem is I'm
not aware that Gravelines [1 or 2] were ever owned by Daniels :-(

Mike








Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:48 pm

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I am looking for the correct name and any information on a specific barge owned by Alfred Daniel and Son of Whistable. I have some but not all of the letters...
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Mar 5, 2006
10:04 pm

Hello Dave, I am just wondering if the ppieps part is on the starboard side of the transom in which case you could be looking at Ipswich. ... not ... about...
Michael Land
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Mar 10, 2006
10:19 pm

Michael, thanks for your time and thoughts....that may be the most logical explanation. Dave Schwain ... __________________________________________________ Do...
Dave Schwain
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Mar 12, 2006
12:49 pm

Dave, Are you working from a photo or a handwritten document? In either case could you do a scan and post it to this group - it will be far easier to work...
Mike Wignall
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Mar 12, 2006
11:37 am

Mike, I'm working from a wood plaque I'm restoring that had hand lettering, and a "relief" model of the ship. Perhaps the creator made some type of mistake or ...
Dave Schwain
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Mar 12, 2006
12:55 pm

Hi Dave, would that be a half model that your working on? If so it would not show the port of registry or any paint come to think of it. I have some photos of...
Michael Land
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Mar 13, 2006
8:38 pm

Michael, it is a half model. The words were painted on the wood mounting backboard of the half model. "Alfred Daniel and Son of Whistable" and the name ...
Dave Schwain
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Mar 14, 2006
12:03 pm

... Well ... I'm like dog with a bone on this! (a) what is the total number of letters involved in the name - both legible and illegible? (b) do the letters...
Mike Wignall
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Mar 14, 2006
12:49 pm

I like the way your'e thinking Mike, especially with the coloured lighting and Dieppe. I must admit I had'nt thought of those things. And I think that this...
Michael Land
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Mar 16, 2006
10:15 pm

Mike, I'm sorry to be late getting back to you, but I was traveling much of the last day or so. I appreciate your interest, and have tried to respond as best I...
Dave Schwain
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Mar 16, 2006
11:00 pm

Dave, I don't think that the lettering is likely to be a barge name. It would not warrant having a special place on a business sign unless a particular barge...
Mike Wignall
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