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Re: [Thames_Barges] Re: Looking for info on Alfred Danikel andSon barge

Mike, I'm sorry to be late getting back to you, but I
was traveling much of the last day or so. I appreciate
your interest, and have tried to respond as best I
can, with responses in caps. (Since getting your
email, I have seen Michael Land's comments that it
looks like a business sign. This might be the case,
the words I've asked about appears in the lower left
corner of this plaque, and I had assumed it referred
to the ship. My comments are in caps: (THANK YOU AGAIN
FOR YOUR INTEREST AND IDEAS!)

--- Mike Wignall <thamesmatch@...> wrote:

> --- In Thames_Barges@..., Dave Schwain
> <dschwain@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> Well ... I'm like dog with a bone on this!
>
> (a) what is the total number of letters involved in
> the name - both
> legible and illegible?
> THERE APPEAR TO BE 13 LETTERS OR SPACES, ALTHOUGH
THERE COULD BE ONE MORE OR LESS. THE FIRST THREE ARE
DEFINITELY "GRA" AND THE LAST FIVE ARE DEFINITELY
"PIEPS." I THINK THE FIRST FOUR ARE "GRAIN" FOLLOWED
BY A SPACE BREAK OR LETTER, AND ANOTHER SPACE FOR A
LETTER OR BREAK, FOLLOWED BY WHAT I THINK ARE SIX
LETTERS "PPIEPS."
> (b) do the letters form a single contiguous [smart
> word :-)] word? AS I NOTED ABOVE, I CAN'T
TELL..THERE MAY BE TWO WORDS
>
> (c) you've got 2 dashes in your name. Does that
> represent just two
> illegible lettes in that perticular position - or
> what? YES...HOPEFULLY I WAS CLEAR IN MY RESPONSE
ABOVE
>
> (d) do you think there's a "dash" in the middle of
> the word which
> might separate the barges name from a second word
> e.g. a port of
> registration? THIS SOUNDS LIKE A POSSIBLE ANSWER!
>
> Try looking at the name in different coloured light
> ideally blue and
> red and at different angles to help pick out colour!
> THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA, I TRIED AS YOU SUGGESTED, BUT
WASN'T ABLE TO GET ANYTHING NEW .
>
> We should be able to crack this - the identifiable
> sequence of
> letters are quite helpful in a way.
>
> My semi-guess would be based on this skeleton entry
> in a lsit I hold:
>
> ************
>
> VERHEYDEN, P., (????-????): ????, Dunkirk, France,
> ????-????; owner
> SB Gravelines I [ex Ena 1905)], 1905-1912; [NB
> should 1905 be 1906?]
> SB Gravelines II [ex Hilda (1906)]; 1907-1912;
>
>
> **********
>
> How about "Gravelines"? Would that fit? Then there's
> the "ppieps"
> bit. I wonder if Verheyeden registered her in
> Dieppe? Problem is I'm
> not aware that Gravelines [1 or 2] were ever owned
> by Daniels :-(
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:00 pm

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I am looking for the correct name and any information on a specific barge owned by Alfred Daniel and Son of Whistable. I have some but not all of the letters...
dschwain
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Mar 5, 2006
10:04 pm

Hello Dave, I am just wondering if the ppieps part is on the starboard side of the transom in which case you could be looking at Ipswich. ... not ... about...
Michael Land
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Mar 10, 2006
10:19 pm

Michael, thanks for your time and thoughts....that may be the most logical explanation. Dave Schwain ... __________________________________________________ Do...
Dave Schwain
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Mar 12, 2006
12:49 pm

Dave, Are you working from a photo or a handwritten document? In either case could you do a scan and post it to this group - it will be far easier to work...
Mike Wignall
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Mar 12, 2006
11:37 am

Mike, I'm working from a wood plaque I'm restoring that had hand lettering, and a "relief" model of the ship. Perhaps the creator made some type of mistake or ...
Dave Schwain
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Mar 12, 2006
12:55 pm

Hi Dave, would that be a half model that your working on? If so it would not show the port of registry or any paint come to think of it. I have some photos of...
Michael Land
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Mar 13, 2006
8:38 pm

Michael, it is a half model. The words were painted on the wood mounting backboard of the half model. "Alfred Daniel and Son of Whistable" and the name ...
Dave Schwain
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Mar 14, 2006
12:03 pm

... Well ... I'm like dog with a bone on this! (a) what is the total number of letters involved in the name - both legible and illegible? (b) do the letters...
Mike Wignall
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Mar 14, 2006
12:49 pm

I like the way your'e thinking Mike, especially with the coloured lighting and Dieppe. I must admit I had'nt thought of those things. And I think that this...
Michael Land
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Mar 16, 2006
10:15 pm

Mike, I'm sorry to be late getting back to you, but I was traveling much of the last day or so. I appreciate your interest, and have tried to respond as best I...
Dave Schwain
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Mar 16, 2006
11:00 pm

Dave, I don't think that the lettering is likely to be a barge name. It would not warrant having a special place on a business sign unless a particular barge...
Mike Wignall
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Mar 18, 2006
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