--- In Whitley_project@..., "C Findlay" <cfindlay@...>
wrote:
>
> David
> I am no expert like some of the guys rebuilding a Whitley.
> My uncle was a pilot killed after crashing in fog when recalled
from a raid in Sept 41.
> he was also involved in a ditching in the North Sea for a few days
after some damage on the way back from a raid.
> My mother came across a diary he had kept from the day war started
and through training. I typed it up a couple of years ago and did a
bit more research.
> We also applied for and got 3 medals he was entitled to for taking
part in the war.
>
> The Whitley File was published by Air-Britain publications in
1986 , ISBN 0 85130 127 4. it is A4 softback 72 pages.
> I bought a copy via e-bay.  Some second hand book dealers may have
it, www.abebooks.co.uk is a good place to start.
>
> There is a picture of a 612 Whitley in the book - see attached
scan.
>
> Z6633 is from the same batch of 279 Whitleys (Z6461 to Z6959 with
some numbers missed out).
>
> I have also attached a couple of exports of Favourites files with
links to Whitley and RAF info I have come across.
> You should be able to import them into Internet Explorer or
similar.
>
> I have another leaflet with pictures of a 612 Whitley. I will scan
it and send it.
>
> Regards
> Colin
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: David Briggs
>   To: Whitley_project@...
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:30 AM
>   Subject: RE: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron
>
>
>
>   Dear Colin - Please excuse the additional reply.
>
>   I was planning to use the attached photo as a key source for the
model project - but as you can see this shows Z6633.
>   The photo label suggests it is a Mark VII - but the number is
below those that you've quoted - in fact it precedes all of them.
Does this mean it is neither a V or a VII ?
>
>   Or am I misunderstanding how the number system worked ? What is
Z6633 listed as in the Whitley File ?
>
>   Also - I wondered - is there any way of identifying what the
squadron call sign for any particular aircraft might have been from
the records you have sight off ?
>
>   Hope this isn't pressing you to much for information ! It is
absolutely fascinating for me !!!
>
>   Kind regards
>
>   David
>   _______________________________________
>   Dear Colin
>
>   Thank you very much for taking the time to reply.
>
>   I had assumed a Mark VII from other information so knowing it
was a Mark V will help with the authenticity of the modelling.
>
>   Of course 612 was Coastal Command which might explain why it
doesn't show in the Bomber Command records. Do you know if there was
a similar, separate Coastal Command record kept ?
>
>   Could you let me know if the "Whitley File" was a published
book - ie could I ask my library to get a copy for me ?
>
>   Kind regards
>
>   David
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Whitley_project@...
[mailto:Whitley_project@...]On Behalf Of C Findlay
>     Sent: 04 March 2008 19:22
>     To: Whitley_project@...
>     Subject: Re: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron
>
>
>
>     David
>     The book "The Whitley File" shows Whitley Z6810 of 612 "lost
on transit flight from Wick to Reykjavik" 25/12/41.
>     Whitley numbers Z6793 to Z6842 are Mk V according to that book.
>
>     The book RAF Bomber Command losses 1941 does not include this
loss. If it had it would have shown the crew members.
>
>     Regards
>     Colin Findlay
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: enf855d
>       To: Whitley_project@...
>       Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:51 AM
>       Subject: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron
>
>
>       Dear All
>
>       I am researching the loss of my uncle, Philip Halliday,
RAFVR on
>       Christmas Day 1941 who was pilot Navigator in a Mark VII
Whitley
>       fitted with ASV. On the day I beleive he was relocating to
Rejkavik
>       from Wick and my mother says they were actually carrying the
>       Christmas post to the new base.
>
>       I intend to model his particular aircraft (Frog Kit) and my
research
>       has turned up a nice picture of G George of 612 - but I
would like
>       to know the call sign and number of Philips plane
specifically.
>       Could anyone help me ?
>
>       As part of the research I have already connected with a
member of
>       612 who was there just before my uncle. He provided some
interesting
>       general data below.
>
>       Other research suggests to me that the CO of 612 Sqdn in
i941 was
>       JBM Wallis - is that right ?
>
>       Any background people could help me with would be gratefully
>       received.
>
>       Many thanks
>
>       David
>
>       Regarding your uncle Philip Halliday, I regret that I can
not be of
>       much
>       help.
>       I left 612 Squadron in early January 1941 as we were
converting to
>       Whitleys
>       when the squadron was based at Dyce. At that time I do not
recall
>       anyone by
>       the name of Philip Halliday in the squadron. He may have
joined
>       later in the
>       year.
>       In Dec. 1941 I joined 502 Squadron again flying Whitleys.
>       Regarding Whitleys, some were powered by U.S.A. Packard
built
>       Merlins which
>       could develop coolant leaks and thus engine failure and the
Whitley
>       would
>       not remain airborne on one engine.
>       The last C.O. of 612 wrote a history of the squadron after
it was
>       disbanded
>       in the 1950s or 1960s. I expect that a copy woud be
available in
>       Aberdeen as
>       it was the city of Aberdeen Auxiliary squadron pre war.
>
>
>
>
>
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>Hello
    Coastal command losses indicates that it was a Whiley mark v
serial Z6810 WL-A lost presumed to have ditched after been diverted
back to Wick all six crew and 3 transit passengers lost.Can let you
have all names if required. Best regards Graham Brett

-----Original Message-----
From: Whitley_project@... [mailto:Whitley_project@...]On Behalf Of C Findlay
Sent: 05 March 2008 21:02
To: Whitley_project@...
Subject: Re: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

I have a DVD from the Imperial War Museum Collection about the
Air Transport Auxiliary delivering aircraft in 1941, including rare
footage of a Whitley take off and in-cockpit sequences. The DVD can be
bought at:

http://www.dukevideo.com/General/DVD/Military%20,-a-,%20War/Ferry%
20Pilot%20DVD.aspx

 

----- Original Message -----

From: David Briggs

To: Whitley_project@...

Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:30 AM

Subject: RE: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

Dear Colin - Please excuse the additional reply.

 

I was planning to use the attached photo as a key source for the model project - but as you can see this shows Z6633.

The photo label suggests it is a Mark VII - but the number is below those that you've quoted - in fact it precedes all of them. Does this mean it is neither a V or a VII ?

 

Or am I misunderstanding how the number system worked ? What is Z6633 listed as in the Whitley File ?

 

Also - I wondered - is there any way of identifying what the squadron call sign for any particular aircraft might have been from the records you have sight off ?

 

Hope this isn't pressing you to much for information ! It is absolutely fascinating for me !!!

 

Kind regards

 

David

_______________________________________

Dear Colin

 

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply.

 

I had assumed a Mark VII from other information so knowing it was a Mark V will help with the authenticity of the modelling.

 

Of course 612 was Coastal Command which might explain why it doesn't show in the Bomber Command records. Do you know if there was a similar, separate Coastal Command record kept ?

 

Could you let me know if the "Whitley File" was a published book - ie could I ask my library to get a copy for me ?

 

Kind regards

 

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Whitley_project@yahoogroups.co.uk [mailto:Whitley_project@yahoogroups.co.uk]On Behalf Of C Findlay
Sent: 04 March 2008 19:22
To: Whitley_project@yahoogroups.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

David

The book "The Whitley File" shows Whitley Z6810 of 612 "lost on transit flight from Wick to Reykjavik" 25/12/41.

Whitley numbers Z6793 to Z6842 are Mk V according to that book.

 

The book RAF Bomber Command losses 1941 does not include this loss. If it had it would have shown the crew members.

 

Regards

Colin Findlay

 

----- Original Message -----

From: enf855d

To: Whitley_project@yahoogroups.co.uk

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:51 AM

Subject: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

Dear All

I am researching the loss of my uncle, Philip Halliday, RAFVR on
Christmas Day 1941 who was pilot Navigator in a Mark VII Whitley
fitted with ASV. On the day I beleive he was relocating to Rejkavik
from Wick and my mother says they were actually carrying the
Christmas post to the new base.

I intend to model his particular aircraft (Frog Kit) and my research
has turned up a nice picture of G George of 612 - but I would like
to know the call sign and number of Philips plane specifically.
Could anyone help me ?

As part of the research I have already connected with a member of
612 who was there just before my uncle. He provided some interesting
general data below.

Other research suggests to me that the CO of 612 Sqdn in i941 was
JBM Wallis - is that right ?

Any background people could help me with would be gratefully
received.

Many thanks

David

Regarding your uncle Philip Halliday, I regret that I can not be of
much
help.
I left 612 Squadron in early January 1941 as we were converting to
Whitleys
when the squadron was based at Dyce. At that time I do not recall
anyone by
the name of Philip Halliday in the squadron. He may have joined
later in the
year.
In Dec. 1941 I joined 502 Squadron again flying Whitleys.
Regarding Whitleys, some were powered by U.S.A. Packard built
Merlins which
could develop coolant leaks and thus engine failure and the Whitley
would
not remain airborne on one engine.
The last C.O. of 612 wrote a history of the squadron after it was
disbanded
in the 1950s or 1960s. I expect that a copy woud be available in
Aberdeen as
it was the city of Aberdeen Auxiliary squadron pre war.

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--- In Whitley_project@..., "Ian" <ian_whitley@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In Whitley_project@..., "cartetouche3295"
> <cartetouche3295@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In Whitley_project@..., "monty9321"
> > <monty9321@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi.  My dad and I are doing some research into a crash of a
> > Whitley
> > > at Longmarston around November, 1943.  At the time, my dad was
> > > stationed there and was part of RCAF No. 24 O.T.U
Longmarston "E"
> > > Flight taking his training in a Whitley.  One of the Flight
> > Officers
> > > was Hal Calder.  The plane broke apart at the time of the
crash
> > > because one wheel was up and the other down which caused the
> plane
> > to
> > > veer.  As soon as they lost flying speed, the wing dipped and
> > broke
> > > off.  The plane broke into 3 sections.  The entire crew was
able
> > to
> > > walk away and all survived.  Dad then went on to Dishforth and
> > > eventually joined up with the RCAF 419 Squadron in Middleton
St.
> > > George.  If anyone is familiar with Mynarski, Dad was part of
> that
> > > same squadron and we visited the statue last August at
Middleton
> > St.
> > > George.
> > >
> > > Anyway, we are trying to find the specific plane that
crashed.
> If
> > > anyone has any information, please let us know.
> > >
> > > LeRoy Montgomery
> > > monty@
> > >
> > > Lynda Hotchkiss
> > > hotchkiss@
> > >
> >  Hi Leroy, opologies if you have already received this message,
but
> > I can't seem to get a post up in this group, however there is a
> > mention of a W/O Calder landing Whitley T4215 on the 11th
November
> > 1943 after losing an engine 60 miles from base, the reference is
> > made in "Angry Skies across the Vale" by Brian Kedward. Very
good
> > book on Honeybourne and Long Marston. Hope this helps. Graham
Brett
> >
> Hi
> in the WHitley FIle T4215 was S OC Struck off Charge on 17.5.44 so
> presumed did not crash.
>
> THE WHITLEY FILE is a book - soft back Published by Air Britain
> (Historians) Ltd in 1986. ISBN 0 85130 127 4   complied by R N
> Roberts.
> Hi Ian,
          T4215 did land without damage, but apart from AD697 it was
the only other Whitley to have a problem that month according to the
ORB, so the incident described must have been AD674 on 4th Dec as
pionted out in earlier message. According to Angry Sky's the pilot
was recommended for a commendation and the initial inspection deemed
the aircraft repairable, but subsequently written off. Regards Graham

--- In Whitley_project@..., "cartetouche3295"
<cartetouche3295@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Whitley_project@..., "monty9321"
> <monty9321@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.  My dad and I are doing some research into a crash of a
> Whitley
> > at Longmarston around November, 1943.  At the time, my dad was
> > stationed there and was part of RCAF No. 24 O.T.U Longmarston "E"
> > Flight taking his training in a Whitley.  One of the Flight
> Officers
> > was Hal Calder.  The plane broke apart at the time of the crash
> > because one wheel was up and the other down which caused the
plane
> to
> > veer.  As soon as they lost flying speed, the wing dipped and
> broke
> > off.  The plane broke into 3 sections.  The entire crew was able
> to
> > walk away and all survived.  Dad then went on to Dishforth and
> > eventually joined up with the RCAF 419 Squadron in Middleton St.
> > George.  If anyone is familiar with Mynarski, Dad was part of
that
> > same squadron and we visited the statue last August at Middleton
> St.
> > George.
> >
> > Anyway, we are trying to find the specific plane that crashed.
If
> > anyone has any information, please let us know.
> >
> > LeRoy Montgomery
> > monty@
> >
> > Lynda Hotchkiss
> > hotchkiss@
> >
>  Hi Leroy, opologies if you have already received this message, but
> I can't seem to get a post up in this group, however there is a
> mention of a W/O Calder landing Whitley T4215 on the 11th November
> 1943 after losing an engine 60 miles from base, the reference is
> made in "Angry Skies across the Vale" by Brian Kedward. Very good
> book on Honeybourne and Long Marston. Hope this helps. Graham Brett
>
Hi
in the WHitley FIle T4215 was S OC Struck off Charge on 17.5.44 so
presumed did not crash.

THE WHITLEY FILE is a book - soft back Published by Air Britain
(Historians) Ltd in 1986. ISBN 0 85130 127 4   complied by R N
Roberts.

--- In Whitley_project@..., "monty9321"
<monty9321@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.  My dad and I are doing some research into a crash of a
Whitley
> at Longmarston around November, 1943.  At the time, my dad was
> stationed there and was part of RCAF No. 24 O.T.U Longmarston "E"
> Flight taking his training in a Whitley.  One of the Flight
Officers
> was Hal Calder.  The plane broke apart at the time of the crash
> because one wheel was up and the other down which caused the plane
to
> veer.  As soon as they lost flying speed, the wing dipped and
broke
> off.  The plane broke into 3 sections.  The entire crew was able
to
> walk away and all survived.  Dad then went on to Dishforth and
> eventually joined up with the RCAF 419 Squadron in Middleton St.
> George.  If anyone is familiar with Mynarski, Dad was part of that
> same squadron and we visited the statue last August at Middleton
St.
> George.
>
> Anyway, we are trying to find the specific plane that crashed.  If
> anyone has any information, please let us know.
>
> LeRoy Montgomery
> monty@...
>
> Lynda Hotchkiss
> hotchkiss@...
>
  Hi Leroy, opologies if you have already received this message, but
I can't seem to get a post up in this group, however there is a
mention of a W/O Calder landing Whitley T4215 on the 11th November
1943 after losing an engine 60 miles from base, the reference is
made in "Angry Skies across the Vale" by Brian Kedward. Very good
book on Honeybourne and Long Marston. Hope this helps. Graham Brett

-----Original Message-----
From: Whitley_project@... [mailto:Whitley_project@...]On Behalf Of C Findlay
Sent: 04 March 2008 19:22
To: Whitley_project@...
Subject: Re: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

David

The book "The Whitley File" shows Whitley Z6810 of 612 "lost on transit flight from Wick to Reykjavik" 25/12/41.

Whitley numbers Z6793 to Z6842 are Mk V according to that book.

 

The book RAF Bomber Command losses 1941 does not include this loss. If it had it would have shown the crew members.

 

Regards

Colin Findlay

 

----- Original Message -----

From: enf855d

To: Whitley_project@yahoogroups.co.uk

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:51 AM

Subject: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

Dear All

I am researching the loss of my uncle, Philip Halliday, RAFVR on
Christmas Day 1941 who was pilot Navigator in a Mark VII Whitley
fitted with ASV. On the day I beleive he was relocating to Rejkavik
from Wick and my mother says they were actually carrying the
Christmas post to the new base.

I intend to model his particular aircraft (Frog Kit) and my research
has turned up a nice picture of G George of 612 - but I would like
to know the call sign and number of Philips plane specifically.
Could anyone help me ?

As part of the research I have already connected with a member of
612 who was there just before my uncle. He provided some interesting
general data below.

Other research suggests to me that the CO of 612 Sqdn in i941 was
JBM Wallis - is that right ?

Any background people could help me with would be gratefully
received.

Many thanks

David

Regarding your uncle Philip Halliday, I regret that I can not be of
much
help.
I left 612 Squadron in early January 1941 as we were converting to
Whitleys
when the squadron was based at Dyce. At that time I do not recall
anyone by
the name of Philip Halliday in the squadron. He may have joined
later in the
year.
In Dec. 1941 I joined 502 Squadron again flying Whitleys.
Regarding Whitleys, some were powered by U.S.A. Packard built
Merlins which
could develop coolant leaks and thus engine failure and the Whitley
would
not remain airborne on one engine.
The last C.O. of 612 wrote a history of the squadron after it was
disbanded
in the 1950s or 1960s. I expect that a copy woud be available in
Aberdeen as
it was the city of Aberdeen Auxiliary squadron pre war.

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Sent: 04 March 2008 19:22
To: Whitley_project@...
Subject: Re: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

David

The book "The Whitley File" shows Whitley Z6810 of 612 "lost on transit flight from Wick to Reykjavik" 25/12/41.

Whitley numbers Z6793 to Z6842 are Mk V according to that book.

 

The book RAF Bomber Command losses 1941 does not include this loss. If it had it would have shown the crew members.

 

Regards

Colin Findlay

 

----- Original Message -----

From: enf855d

To: Whitley_project@yahoogroups.co.uk

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:51 AM

Subject: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

Dear All

I am researching the loss of my uncle, Philip Halliday, RAFVR on
Christmas Day 1941 who was pilot Navigator in a Mark VII Whitley
fitted with ASV. On the day I beleive he was relocating to Rejkavik
from Wick and my mother says they were actually carrying the
Christmas post to the new base.

I intend to model his particular aircraft (Frog Kit) and my research
has turned up a nice picture of G George of 612 - but I would like
to know the call sign and number of Philips plane specifically.
Could anyone help me ?

As part of the research I have already connected with a member of
612 who was there just before my uncle. He provided some interesting
general data below.

Other research suggests to me that the CO of 612 Sqdn in i941 was
JBM Wallis - is that right ?

Any background people could help me with would be gratefully
received.

Many thanks

David

Regarding your uncle Philip Halliday, I regret that I can not be of
much
help.
I left 612 Squadron in early January 1941 as we were converting to
Whitleys
when the squadron was based at Dyce. At that time I do not recall
anyone by
the name of Philip Halliday in the squadron. He may have joined
later in the
year.
In Dec. 1941 I joined 502 Squadron again flying Whitleys.
Regarding Whitleys, some were powered by U.S.A. Packard built
Merlins which
could develop coolant leaks and thus engine failure and the Whitley
would
not remain airborne on one engine.
The last C.O. of 612 wrote a history of the squadron after it was
disbanded
in the 1950s or 1960s. I expect that a copy woud be available in
Aberdeen as
it was the city of Aberdeen Auxiliary squadron pre war.

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From: enf855d

To: Whitley_project@...

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:51 AM

Subject: [Whitley_project] Particular Whitley 612 Squadron

Dear All

I am researching the loss of my uncle, Philip Halliday, RAFVR on
Christmas Day 1941 who was pilot Navigator in a Mark VII Whitley
fitted with ASV. On the day I beleive he was relocating to Rejkavik
from Wick and my mother says they were actually carrying the
Christmas post to the new base.

I intend to model his particular aircraft (Frog Kit) and my research
has turned up a nice picture of G George of 612 - but I would like
to know the call sign and number of Philips plane specifically.
Could anyone help me ?

As part of the research I have already connected with a member of
612 who was there just before my uncle. He provided some interesting
general data below.

Other research suggests to me that the CO of 612 Sqdn in i941 was
JBM Wallis - is that right ?

Any background people could help me with would be gratefully
received.

Many thanks

David

Regarding your uncle Philip Halliday, I regret that I can not be of
much
help.
I left 612 Squadron in early January 1941 as we were converting to
Whitleys
when the squadron was based at Dyce. At that time I do not recall
anyone by
the name of Philip Halliday in the squadron. He may have joined
later in the
year.
In Dec. 1941 I joined 502 Squadron again flying Whitleys.
Regarding Whitleys, some were powered by U.S.A. Packard built
Merlins which
could develop coolant leaks and thus engine failure and the Whitley
would
not remain airborne on one engine.
The last C.O. of 612 wrote a history of the squadron after it was
disbanded
in the 1950s or 1960s. I expect that a copy woud be available in
Aberdeen as
it was the city of Aberdeen Auxiliary squadron pre war.

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Dear All

I am researching the loss of my uncle, Philip Halliday, RAFVR on
Christmas Day 1941 who was pilot Navigator in a Mark VII Whitley
fitted with ASV. On the day I beleive he was relocating to Rejkavik
from Wick and my mother says they were actually carrying the
Christmas post to the new base.

I intend to model his particular aircraft (Frog Kit) and my research
has turned up a nice picture of G George of 612 - but I would like
to know the call sign and number of Philips plane specifically.
Could anyone help me ?

As part of the research I have already connected with a member of
612 who was there just before my uncle. He provided some interesting
general data below.

Other research suggests to me that the CO of 612 Sqdn in i941 was
JBM Wallis - is that right ?

Any background people could help me with would be gratefully
received.

Many thanks

David

Regarding your uncle Philip Halliday, I regret that I can not be of
much
help.
I left 612 Squadron in early January 1941 as we were converting to
Whitleys
when the squadron was based at Dyce. At that time I do not recall
anyone by
the name of Philip Halliday in the squadron. He may have joined
later in the
year.
In Dec. 1941 I joined 502 Squadron again flying Whitleys.
Regarding Whitleys, some were powered by U.S.A. Packard built
Merlins which
could develop coolant leaks and thus engine failure and the Whitley
would
not remain airborne on one engine.
The last C.O. of 612 wrote a history of the squadron after it was
disbanded
in the 1950s or 1960s. I expect that a copy woud be available in
Aberdeen as
it was the city of Aberdeen Auxiliary squadron pre war.

HAving again visited the above, is there an update on the Project and
where is it being carried out?

Just browsing on the front page of this Group and noticed the above
comment.

I have a copy of THE WHITLEY FILE book and was trying to find EB384 in
the INDIVIDUAL AIRCRAFT HISTORIES starting on page 23, but cannot find
it?

Hi Ian

Thanks for the message and welcome.  I'd be interested in hearing
about your friend in Canada.  Do you think you might be able to get
an account from him on his Whitley accident?

Regards
Elliott

--- In Whitley_project@..., "Ian" <ian_whitley@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi
> just stumbled on this when I found an old copy of FlyPast Nov 2001
> which had a brief note of the Whitley Project. No web site in
those
> days so was very interested in it and therefore this forum. Just
signed
> the web site guest book and mixed up the note there with this
forum!
> I have an old Frog model kt and partially constructed model. Not
very
> good. Bought a full kit via ebay some years ago from ?Hungary
where I
> think the Frog template/ machines were bought. Not even opened it.
> Would be interested if there are any modellers who could build it
for
> me.
> Commissioned a water colour of a Whitley from the President of the
Air
> Craft Society ( not the right name I know, but he signed it on the
back
> and as its difficult to get down I only can stab a guess.
> BY co-incidence I know a guy who flew in the Whitley's in Canada.
HE
> crashed on a training flight I think and has never flown since.
The
> number he has identified in the book that has the complete
histories of
> the Whitleys
>
> Would be good to see a Whitley reconstructed. Very much an unsung
hero.
> Keep up the good work
>

Hi
just stumbled on this when I found an old copy of FlyPast Nov 2001
which had a brief note of the Whitley Project. No web site in those
days so was very interested in it and therefore this forum. Just signed
the web site guest book and mixed up the note there with this forum!
I have an old Frog model kt and partially constructed model. Not very
good. Bought a full kit via ebay some years ago from ?Hungary where I
think the Frog template/ machines were bought. Not even opened it.
Would be interested if there are any modellers who could build it for
me.
Commissioned a water colour of a Whitley from the President of the Air
Craft Society ( not the right name I know, but he signed it on the back
and as its difficult to get down I only can stab a guess.
BY co-incidence I know a guy who flew in the Whitley's in Canada. HE
crashed on a training flight I think and has never flown since. The
number he has identified in the book that has the complete histories of
the Whitleys

Would be good to see a Whitley reconstructed. Very much an unsung hero.
Keep up the good work

Thanks Todd

--- In Whitley_project@..., Todd Yates <tayates@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Elliott,
>
> I'll get you a picture as soon as I can!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Todd
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: elliott1940
>   To: Whitley_project@...
>   Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:52 AM
>   Subject: [Whitley_project] Re: Whitley part #
>
>
>   Hi Todd
>
>   Can you email me a pic please - if you send it to
>   elliott1940@... i'll do my best to ID it for you.
>
>   The part number you give is a bit odd - it should have either an
AW
>   or SP prefix if it is Whitley.
>
>   Regards
>   Elliott
>
>   --- In Whitley_project@..., "Todd" <tayates@>
wrote:
>   >
>   >
>   > Elliot/Steve
>   >
>   > I have been given a piece of my Uncle's aircraft (Whitley
P5057)
>   by a
>   > fellow in Wales. Apparently he's had it for many years. It's
not
>   the
>   > nicest piece of wreckage, but I was thrilled to get it...
>   >
>   > There is a part # 5990 imprinted on the piece. Can you tell me
>   what
>   > part of the aircraft it came from?
>   >
>   > Also, can you tell me where the Fuel cock plate is located on
a
>   > Whitley? I obtained the plate through E-bay (of all places).
It's
>   in
>   > mint condition.
>   >
>   > Cheers,
>   >
>   > Todd Yates
>   >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: elliott1940

To: Whitley_project@...

Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:52 AM

Subject: [Whitley_project] Re: Whitley part #

Hi Todd

Can you email me a pic please - if you send it to
elliott1940@yahoo.com i'll do my best to ID it for you.

The part number you give is a bit odd - it should have either an AW
or SP prefix if it is Whitley.

Regards
Elliott

--- In Whitley_project@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Todd" <tayates@...> wrote:
>
>
> Elliot/Steve
>
> I have been given a piece of my Uncle's aircraft (Whitley P5057)
by a
> fellow in Wales. Apparently he's had it for many years. It's not
the
> nicest piece of wreckage, but I was thrilled to get it...
>
> There is a part # 5990 imprinted on the piece. Can you tell me
what
> part of the aircraft it came from?
>
> Also, can you tell me where the Fuel cock plate is located on a
> Whitley? I obtained the plate through E-bay (of all places). It's
in
> mint condition.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Todd Yates
>

Hi Karsten

That is an excellent site - thank you for telling us about it.  Have
you been able to find any information on Whitley losses near
Berlin?

With best wishes
Elliott

--- In Whitley_project@..., "Karsten S." <karstens-
mailbox@...> wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>
> my name is Karsten. I'm interested in all of Bomber Command losses
and I research in South of Berlin.
>
> My website: www.bomber-command.de
>
> Kind regards,
> Karsten
>

Hi Pete

The key will be the cupola.  Does this still exist or do you have
just the internals?

Regards
Elliott


--- In Whitley_project@..., "Mike" <mdalgleish@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In Whitley_project@..., "pete240268"
> <pete240268@> wrote:
> >
> > hi, just noticed on a different forum a link to this site where
it
> > said you were mounting an FN4 turret to your whitley....i have
an fn4
> > but was led to believe it was off a sterling...any ideas?
>
> >        thanks, pete
> __________________
> It could be from either aircraft Pete.
> It could have been from a Lancaster as well, they were in quite
> widespread use. I presume that only a serial number would clear up
the
> puzzle.
> --
> MdD
>

Hi Todd

Can you email me a pic please - if you send it to
elliott1940@... i'll do my best to ID it for you.

The part number you give is a bit odd - it should have either an AW
or SP prefix if it is Whitley.

Regards
Elliott

--- In Whitley_project@..., "Todd" <tayates@...> wrote:
>
>
> Elliot/Steve
>
> I have been given a piece of my Uncle's aircraft (Whitley P5057)
by a
> fellow in Wales. Apparently he's had it for many years. It's not
the
> nicest piece of wreckage, but I was thrilled to get it...
>
> There is a part # 5990 imprinted on the piece. Can you tell me
what
> part of the aircraft it came from?
>
> Also, can you tell me where the Fuel cock plate is located on a
> Whitley? I obtained the plate through E-bay (of all places). It's
in
> mint condition.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Todd Yates
>

--- In Whitley_project@..., "pete240268"
<pete240268@...> wrote:
>
> hi, just noticed on a different forum a link to this site where it
> said you were mounting an FN4 turret to your whitley....i have an fn4
> but was led to believe it was off a sterling...any ideas?

>        thanks, pete
__________________
It could be from either aircraft Pete.
It could have been from a Lancaster as well, they were in quite
widespread use. I presume that only a serial number would clear up the
puzzle.
--
MdD

Elliot/Steve

I have been given a piece of my Uncle's aircraft (Whitley P5057) by a
fellow in Wales. Apparently he's had it for many years. It's not the
nicest piece of wreckage, but I was thrilled to get it...

There is a part # 5990 imprinted on the piece. Can you tell me what
part of the aircraft it came from?

Also, can you tell me where the Fuel cock plate is located on a
Whitley? I obtained the plate through E-bay (of all places). It's in
mint condition.

Cheers,

Todd Yates

hi, just noticed on a different forum a link to this site where it
said you were mounting an FN4 turret to your whitley....i have an fn4
but was led to believe it was off a sterling...any ideas?
   any help would be greatfully received, im thinking of setting up a
website for it so i can find out for sure, ive also been toying with
the idea of loaning it to a museum so everyone else can enjoy it but
have heard bad stories about trying to get things back from museums
when you want them.....again, any help i could get would be great.
   i will attempt to attach a picture so you can see it but if i fail i
can email a picture directly if needed. my email is
pjbrad68@...

        thanks, pete

Hi Steve

Try - elliott1940@...

It is my main account!

Elliott


--- Steve <steven.reynolds@...> wrote:

> Hello Elliot,
>
> I've tried emailing you a couple of times and my
> emails have been
> returned 'undelivered' - but Yahoo are well known
> for gremlins.
>
> I'll try you again!
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In Whitley_project@...,
> "whitley_project"
> <whitley_project@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve
> >
> > My email still works - not having any problems
> with it as far as
> i'm
> > aware....
> >
> > elliott1940@...
> >
> > Be good to catch up as there have been a lot of
> developments
> recently.
> >
> > All the best
> > Elliott
> >
> >
> > --- In Whitley_project@..., "Steve"
> > <steven.reynolds@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It has gone a little quiet in here just
> recently, but I have a
> few
> > > things to post soon that might be of some
> interest (when I get
> the
> > > time).
> > >
> > > Hello to the new members, sorry I have been a
> bit slow with the
> > > greetings, please excuse my manners but I've
> been rather busy and
> > > haven't dropped in for a while.
> > >
> > > I tried to contact Elliot Smock for an update
> recently and was
> > dismayed
> > > that his email address no longer appears valid
> :-(
> > >
> > > If anyone is still in touch (or if you read
> this, Elliot!) please
> > get
> > > in touch.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> >
>
>
>




____________________________________________________

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Hello Elliot,

I've tried emailing you a couple of times and my emails have been
returned 'undelivered' - but Yahoo are well known for gremlins.

I'll try you again!

Steve


--- In Whitley_project@..., "whitley_project"
<whitley_project@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve
>
> My email still works - not having any problems with it as far as
i'm
> aware....
>
> elliott1940@...
>
> Be good to catch up as there have been a lot of developments
recently.
>
> All the best
> Elliott
>
>
> --- In Whitley_project@..., "Steve"
> <steven.reynolds@> wrote:
> >
> > It has gone a little quiet in here just recently, but I have a
few
> > things to post soon that might be of some interest (when I get
the
> > time).
> >
> > Hello to the new members, sorry I have been a bit slow with the
> > greetings, please excuse my manners but I've been rather busy and
> > haven't dropped in for a while.
> >
> > I tried to contact Elliot Smock for an update recently and was
> dismayed
> > that his email address no longer appears valid :-(
> >
> > If anyone is still in touch (or if you read this, Elliot!) please
> get
> > in touch.
> >
> > Steve
> >
>

Hi Steve

My email still works - not having any problems with it as far as i'm
aware....

elliott1940@...

Be good to catch up as there have been a lot of developments recently.

All the best
Elliott


--- In Whitley_project@..., "Steve"
<steven.reynolds@...> wrote:
>
> It has gone a little quiet in here just recently, but I have a few
> things to post soon that might be of some interest (when I get the
> time).
>
> Hello to the new members, sorry I have been a bit slow with the
> greetings, please excuse my manners but I've been rather busy and
> haven't dropped in for a while.
>
> I tried to contact Elliot Smock for an update recently and was
dismayed
> that his email address no longer appears valid :-(
>
> If anyone is still in touch (or if you read this, Elliot!) please
get
> in touch.
>
> Steve
>

It has gone a little quiet in here just recently, but I have a few
things to post soon that might be of some interest (when I get the
time).

Hello to the new members, sorry I have been a bit slow with the
greetings, please excuse my manners but I've been rather busy and
haven't dropped in for a while.

I tried to contact Elliot Smock for an update recently and was dismayed
that his email address no longer appears valid :-(

If anyone is still in touch (or if you read this, Elliot!) please get
in touch.

Steve