lElizabeth Russel <ElizabethRussell3@...> wrote:
Date 19th Feb, 2006 , 22:01
<<I am only interested because I get feelings and the what I call flash
backs of myself or what I feel is myself in a {plan] (?) wearing native american
clothing sitting with a wolf as a friend.>>
<<I am only interested because I get feelings and the what I call flash
backs of myself or what I feel is myself in a {plan] (?) wearing native american
clothing sitting with a wolf as a friend.>>
COMMENT:I I have a friend, who is a Vietnam veteran, who also just happens to have flashbacks. He gets heavy psychotherapy at the VA
hospital.
From: digitalkontakt
<<Hello to Elizabeth, as Taytacha wrote before, mother moon is feminine energy. I read about it as being named Lilith.>>
From: digitalkontakt
<<Hello to Elizabeth, as Taytacha wrote before, mother moon is feminine energy. I read about it as being named Lilith.>>
COMMENT: Taytacha= God. I had no idea you could talk to Him; I could belive you talk to Lilith who lives in a Hebrew commune.
<<It is female energy and as far as I know it is not domesticated energy, but wild.
The Q'ero I met describe the energy of the world (which is universe or
multiverse or something alike) in wild and domesticated energy, and in
masculine and feminine energy.>>
The Q'ero I met describe the energy of the world (which is universe or
multiverse or something alike) in wild and domesticated energy, and in
masculine and feminine energy.>>
COMMENT: Please define energy. You seem to have your energies a little mixed up!
E=MC (Sqd) has no gender. The energy of a woman or a man is the same, no gender.
<<So what we refer to as Lilith or mother moon is energetically known to
the Q'ero.>>
Energetically means VEHEMENTLY
<<This equilibrium of masculine and feminine energy is also crucial to
TAO. >> <<So the wisdom of the Andies finds - let us say - an echo in the
wisdom of the Himalaya.>>
<<This equilibrium of masculine and feminine energy is also crucial to
TAO. >> <<So the wisdom of the Andies finds - let us say - an echo in the
wisdom of the Himalaya.>>
COMMENT: Since there is no such thing as gender energy, there goes the TAO to the dump.
So, we hope the wisdom of the Andes does not find any echoes!
<<You can find this all over the place, everywhere in the world. It can be
found in the magical European traditions; it is hidden also in what is
written about what Jesus said. Alas, what really might have been said by Jesus, we don't know. And those who wrote it down might have changed it to the worse.>>
<<You can find this all over the place, everywhere in the world. It can be
found in the magical European traditions; it is hidden also in what is
written about what Jesus said. Alas, what really might have been said by Jesus, we don't know. And those who wrote it down might have changed it to the worse.>>
COMMENT: You are much to smart for your own good. ( Isea 5:21) "Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes and prudent in their own sight"
So God, what might be as well the energy or the three worlds Uhuch pacha, kay pacha hanach pacha, rested some elsewhere as described in the bible and not, as it should be,
among us, between us and in us.
COMMENT: Did you make this one up just now? Where in the Bible did you see it?
<< And - alas as well - the European Magic is mixed with superstition.>>
COMMENT: What the hell does this mean? Magic is superstition!!!!!..
<<The way of the mystics of the Andes in my view has the advantage that it is kept simple. And I know from experience that the Pac'o (=Shamans in the Andes) feel love and respect for all the attempts existing to increase the power of love. They say that fear, or hate is just a lack of love. And that is true.>>
COMMENT: What kind of bull is this? I lived amongst them and
never heard such foolishness.
<<That brings me to dear Don Benito Coriwaman. I honor your statement (and will honor the spanish article as soon as I find somebody to translate it for me). I understand that you think that looking back to whatever we knew once might be not necessary and may be impossible.
Please let me asoure you that there are ways to connect memories. If
they really are memories of privious lifes or of somebody elses life I
do not know (analytically spoken).
COMMENT: (Revelations 4:16) "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." (divinely spoken)
<<If you judge other attempts to dive into the ocean of nagual as being
mumbo-jumbo, than I fear you to be in danger of becoming a source of
dogma.>>
COMMENT: Dogma is the traffic light that prevents two speeding fools from
crashing.
<< Dogma is the wish to know exactly, which comes from fear of
not-knowing. Dogma also is the wish, to develop the own way as the only
one, and that is a wish for power over other peoples worldview; the wish
for power also (most often, but not allways) comes from fear.
So I sence a lack of love and that may come from too much Hucha (forgive me if I am wrong here, I just would like us all to be aware of what goes on inside of us).>>
not-knowing. Dogma also is the wish, to develop the own way as the only
one, and that is a wish for power over other peoples worldview; the wish
for power also (most often, but not allways) comes from fear.
So I sence a lack of love and that may come from too much Hucha (forgive me if I am wrong here, I just would like us all to be aware of what goes on inside of us).>>
COMMENT: Dogma is the imposition of certain knowledge and is sometimes good, sometimes bad; it has nothing to do with wishing. Clean living does not gather Hucha, confusion, false beliefs, nebulous thinking, and mumbo-jumbo create a lot of Hucha.
<<The mind allways wants to know, and we all want to be special (which we are, but a lot of us can't just believe, can't trust, can't feel enough
love>>
COMMENT: Please don't confuse your hormones with your brain. Thinking is thinking, love, feeling, guessing, imagining, fantasizing, daydreaming, speculating, hunches, fears, and emotional outbursts have nothing to do with didactic thinking.
<<If you need guidance, I suggest you to develope what I call the inner
voice. Our mind does not know a lot of things, and mind is important, but not as important as mind like to believe. .Try the heart.>>
COMMENT: Our mind knows everything we are going to ever know. Your inner voice is your brain talking to you! Try heart? Why not liver, kidney or foot, they are all the same!
<<the wisdom of the Andes is not a matter of brain, it is a matter of heart. If you want brain stuff, read Erwin Laszlo book about the akasha-field. That is for the mind and it is still wonderful.>>
<<the wisdom of the Andes is not a matter of brain, it is a matter of heart. If you want brain stuff, read Erwin Laszlo book about the akasha-field. That is for the mind and it is still wonderful.>>
COMMENT: Wisdom of the Andes is then, for your foot? I read Erwin Lazlos book and he seems a little less of a dreamer and nebulous thinker than most.
<<If you want the mystic, than learn how to become crazy and how to become "normal" again. Train your sense for energy (by doing QiGong, or Reiki, or whatever is appropriate for you). Learn to love, and that means to love what you don't like (within yourself, in other people, in the world) if you see a drunkard and he disgusts you, wish him to be blessed by god - and mean it. And if that means that you walk through the streets thinking this mantra, do it. Connect energetically to whatever you find, trees, stones animals, people, and learn how to disconnect. We are living an this dualistic world but we don't need to be lonesome.In the end we are all one, so it is good to know that some part of us can connect to fairies (I know some, but I can't do that myself)>>
<<If you want the mystic, than learn how to become crazy and how to become "normal" again. Train your sense for energy (by doing QiGong, or Reiki, or whatever is appropriate for you). Learn to love, and that means to love what you don't like (within yourself, in other people, in the world) if you see a drunkard and he disgusts you, wish him to be blessed by god - and mean it. And if that means that you walk through the streets thinking this mantra, do it. Connect energetically to whatever you find, trees, stones animals, people, and learn how to disconnect. We are living an this dualistic world but we don't need to be lonesome.In the end we are all one, so it is good to know that some part of us can connect to fairies (I know some, but I can't do that myself)>>
COMMENT: Aesop has a fable with a moral about people who walk with their heads in the clouds, thinking of energies at large, mantras, mystics, and imagined dualistic worlds. Moral: Hope and pray that there are no holes or wells in your path; you are headed for a fall!
<<Listen to the wind. Understand hwo the cloud above changes something within you and how you change the cloud.>>
COMMENT: And watch your step, least you break your neck for not knowing where your feet are stepping.
<<And learn to laugh, especially about yourself (that is usefull!!).>>
COMMENT: Good idea, since It takes the sting out of making a fool of yourself.
<<So if now you say that this is nonsense and I don't know nothing - youare right; but you can tell now, that I like to give a speech.>>
<<So if now you say that this is nonsense and I don't know nothing - youare right; but you can tell now, that I like to give a speech.>>
COMMENT: Wrong! It is impossible to know nothing, it has to be something for the brain and the senses to apprehend it.
<<God bless you (chosse which one), Michael>>
<<God bless you (chosse which one), Michael>>
COMMENT: No thanks; it may be the wrong one. Revelations (16:13)
"And I saw three spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet."
Someone who spells correctly once in a while.
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