elizabethRussell3@...

I Do Not Need therapy

>From: willgvaa <willgvaausa@...>
>Reply-To: Wisdom_of_the_Andes@...
>To: Wisdom_of_the_Andes@...
>Subject: Re: [Wisdom_of_the_Andes] Digest Number 79
>Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:20:29 -0800 (PST)
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> lElizabeth Russel <ElizabethRussell3@...> wrote:
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> Date 19th Feb, 2006 , 22:01
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><<I am only interested because I get feelings and the what I call flash
>backs of myself or what I feel is myself in a {plan] (?) wearing native
>american
>clothing sitting with a wolf as a friend.>>
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> COMMENT:I I have a friend, who is a Vietnam veteran, who also just
>happens to have flashbacks. He gets heavy psychotherapy at the VA
> hospital.
>
>From: digitalkontakt
> <<Hello to Elizabeth, as Taytacha wrote before, mother moon is feminine
>energy. I read about it as being named Lilith.>>
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> COMMENT: Taytacha= God. I had no idea you could talk to Him; I could
>belive you talk to Lilith who lives in a Hebrew commune.
>
> <<It is female energy and as far as I know it is not domesticated
>energy, but wild.
>The Q'ero I met describe the energy of the world (which is universe or
>multiverse or something alike) in wild and domesticated energy, and in
>masculine and feminine energy.>>
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> COMMENT: Please define energy. You seem to have your energies a
>little mixed up!
> E=MC (Sqd) has no gender. The energy of a woman or a man is the same, no
>gender.
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><<So what we refer to as Lilith or mother moon is energetically known to
>the Q'ero.>>
> Energetically means VEHEMENTLY
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><<This equilibrium of masculine and feminine energy is also crucial to
>TAO. >> <<So the wisdom of the Andies finds - let us say - an echo in the
>wisdom of the Himalaya.>>
> COMMENT: Since there is no such thing as gender energy, there goes
>the TAO to the dump.
> So, we hope the wisdom of the Andes does not find any echoes!
>
><<You can find this all over the place, everywhere in the world. It can be
>found in the magical European traditions; it is hidden also in what is
>written about what Jesus said. Alas, what really might have been said by
>Jesus, we don't know. And those who wrote it down might have changed it to
>the worse.>>
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> COMMENT: You are much to smart for your own good. ( Isea 5:21) "Woe
>unto them that are wise in their own eyes and prudent in their own sight"
>
> So God, what might be as well the energy or the three worlds Uhuch
>pacha, kay pacha hanach pacha, rested some elsewhere as described in the
>bible and not, as it should be, among us, between us and in us.
>
> COMMENT: Did you make this one up just now? Where in the Bible did you
>see it?
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> << And - alas as well - the European Magic is mixed with superstition.>>
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> COMMENT: What the hell does this mean? Magic is superstition!!!!!..
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> <<The way of the mystics of the Andes in my view has the advantage that
>it is kept simple. And I know from experience that the Pac'o (=Shamans in
>the Andes) feel love and respect for all the attempts existing to increase
>the power of love. They say that fear, or hate is just a lack of love. And
>that is true.>>
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> COMMENT: What kind of bull is this? I lived amongst them and never heard
>such foolishness.
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><<That brings me to dear Don Benito Coriwaman. I honor your statement (and
>will honor the spanish article as soon as I find somebody to translate it
>for me). I understand that you think that looking back to whatever we knew
>once might be not necessary and may be impossible.
>Please let me asoure you that there are ways to connect memories. If
>they really are memories of privious lifes or of somebody elses life I
>do not know (analytically spoken).
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> COMMENT: (Revelations 4:16) "So then because thou art lukewarm, and
>neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." (divinely spoken)
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><<If you judge other attempts to dive into the ocean of nagual as being
>mumbo-jumbo, than I fear you to be in danger of becoming a source of
>dogma.>>
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> COMMENT: Dogma is the traffic light that prevents two speeding fools
>from crashing.
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> << Dogma is the wish to know exactly, which comes from fear of
>not-knowing. Dogma also is the wish, to develop the own way as the only
>one, and that is a wish for power over other peoples worldview; the wish
>for power also (most often, but not allways) comes from fear.
>So I sence a lack of love and that may come from too much Hucha (forgive me
>if I am wrong here, I just would like us all to be aware of what goes on
>inside of us).>>
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> COMMENT: Dogma is the imposition of certain knowledge and is sometimes
>good, sometimes bad; it has nothing to do with wishing. Clean living does
>not gather Hucha, confusion, false beliefs, nebulous thinking, and
>mumbo-jumbo create a lot of Hucha.
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><<The mind allways wants to know, and we all want to be special (which we
>are, but a lot of us can't just believe, can't trust, can't feel enough
>love>>
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> COMMENT: Please don't confuse your hormones with your brain. Thinking
>is thinking, love, feeling, guessing, imagining, fantasizing, daydreaming,
>speculating, hunches, fears, and emotional outbursts have nothing to do
>with didactic thinking.
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><<If you need guidance, I suggest you to develope what I call the inner
>voice. Our mind does not know a lot of things, and mind is important, but
>not as important as mind like to believe. .Try the heart.>>
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> COMMENT: Our mind knows everything we are going to ever know. Your inner
>voice is your brain talking to you! Try heart? Why not liver, kidney or
>foot, they are all the same!
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><<the wisdom of the Andes is not a matter of brain, it is a matter of
>heart. If you want brain stuff, read Erwin Laszlo book about the
>akasha-field. That is for the mind and it is still wonderful.>>
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> COMMENT: Wisdom of the Andes is then, for your foot? I read Erwin
>Lazlos book and he seems a little less of a dreamer and nebulous thinker
>than most.
>
><<If you want the mystic, than learn how to become crazy and how to become
>"normal" again. Train your sense for energy (by doing QiGong, or Reiki, or
>whatever is appropriate for you). Learn to love, and that means to love
>what you don't like (within yourself, in other people, in the world) if you
>see a drunkard and he disgusts you, wish him to be blessed by god - and
>mean it. And if that means that you walk through the streets thinking this
>mantra, do it. Connect energetically to whatever you find, trees, stones
>animals, people, and learn how to disconnect. We are living an this
>dualistic world but we don't need to be lonesome.In the end we are all one,
>so it is good to know that some part of us can connect to fairies (I know
>some, but I can't do that myself)>>
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> COMMENT: Aesop has a fable with a moral about people who walk with their
>heads in the clouds, thinking of energies at large, mantras, mystics, and
>imagined dualistic worlds. Moral: Hope and pray that there are no holes or
>wells in your path; you are headed for a fall!
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><<Listen to the wind. Understand hwo the cloud above changes something
>within you and how you change the cloud.>>
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> COMMENT: And watch your step, least you break your neck for not knowing
>where your feet are stepping.
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><<And learn to laugh, especially about yourself (that is usefull!!).>>
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> COMMENT: Good idea, since It takes the sting out of making a fool of
>yourself.
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><<So if now you say that this is nonsense and I don't know nothing - youare
>right; but you can tell now, that I like to give a speech.>>
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> COMMENT: Wrong! It is impossible to know nothing, it has to be something
>for the brain and the senses to apprehend it.
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><<God bless you (chosse which one), Michael>>
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> COMMENT: No thanks; it may be the wrong one. Revelations (16:13)
> "And I saw three spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon,
>and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false
>prophet."
> Someone who spells correctly once in a while.
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>Willgvaa@...
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