I understand what you are saying , and that we all have different ways of
looking at things. I also see that there is 1000's reasons that people may find
to feel comfortable with what they do or don't do. We are all here to learn.
In my opinion, One thing is to accept what people (the village) are willing to
give voluntarily. And another is to find a way to make a living from it.
Traditionally speaking, I also learned that when a healer was not real, and the
sick person either died or did not healed, the penalty was either exile or
death.
It is not really of my personal concern what is that you or anyone do, what was
told that is ok to do, or how thing are particularly done. I am just trying to
show another point of view that hopefully will help balance things.
You say that even in the mountains of Peru they charge money. I am sure that the
reasons why they charge are very much understandable. If they are making such a
profit why didn't you or anyone else stayed there? I know that, the money many
of them charge is to help the people, not for the medicine man to make a living
from it.
Sacred things should not be confused, they should be respect it. But that is
just my opinion.
Like I said before, the power does not come from the healer, but thru the
healer.
When an artist created a painting, do you see the name of the brush he used to
create the work of art - horse hair bristle brush # 7 - or the name of the
artist - Picasso?

I have already seeing that way too many groups and companies have been created,
where they are using ancient rituals, and making profit of it, where I am sure
some of which are really helping others with that profit. But the fundamental
concept of Ayni is based on the people being in balance with the universe, while
each person maintains balance with the universe and its relatives.
Please, everyone don't take this personal. This is just one man's opinion, and I
am just speaking in general.
I wish you well, peace and love.

Wayqe Munay
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> To: Wisdom_of_the_Andes@...
> From: piglet@...
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:46:45 -0500
> Subject: re: [Wisdom_of_the_Andes]
>
>
> quick note on charging fees:
>
> traditionally- a village supported its healer. much the same way the old
> fashioned doctor might often be paid in chickens/eggs/ produce etc.
>
> we live in a modern world where there are logistics. like rent, groceries
> etc.
>
> however- as Juan nunez taught- for some people, 10.00 IS a lot of money.
> is it necessary to charge 400.00/hr-session? probably not.. maybe ask
> yourself what you need realistically and fairly ( noting that often,
> undercharging makes people think it isn't as good or worth it- strange
> society). and be flexible- be willing to work an occasional barter or a
> low fee. something- some exchange, ayni is always generally good.. it is
> the investment of the client in their healing and work. a good rule of
> thumb is- is this work for my hands.. if so.. then a solution presents, if
> not- then say thank you for this offer- let me give you some names that
> might be able to assist you better.
>
> even in the mountains of peru- they charge to teach. ex- I have read
> several accounts of people who chose the pampamasoyeq route because it was
> within the range of what they could afford. these healers and amazing
> people, but please let us not over-romanticize them, either.
>
> be well
>
> Teri
>
> At 08:04 AM 2/11/2008, you wrote:
>
> Hello Robert and everyone,
> Thank you for your good thought and wishes. I also hope to travel to Peru
> soon, I am definitively due. Wayqe is not my spirit name, that was the
> name of a dog I had. I called him Wayqe Munay Q'osq'oruna
> and every time I said that he would understand it better that I did and
> wiggle his tail and smile and would come happy to lick my face and hands.
> He was such an smart fellow. I don't know Quecha either just a few little
> words. Well my friend, I wish you all good, and blessing of God clear your
> path.
>
> P.S.
> By the way. There is something I forgot to mention in my last email. For
> the people that have learned about Peruvian Shamanism and are charging $
> to teach. I don't mean to interfere with your free will, but it is my duty
> to say that it is not necessary to charge $ to teach it. Maybe it is not
> necessary to charge $ fee to heal either. I understand that things cost
> money, and we all need money to cover certain costs such as renting a
> place where it can fit lots of people, or food and lodge for them I guess.
> But also it would be a good thing to help people and welcome them if that
> can't afford the fees.
>
>
>
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