Good words, Eric. Traditional teachings are not passed on for money.
The student knows the proper ways to honor the teacher. Where the
teacher is honored, his people are honored as well. Also I can only
repeat my post #311 on this group.
Even for those who follow the teachings of Yeshua he says to
them "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out
devils: freely ye have received, freely give."

It takes waiting for what Creator wants to give you. You cannot buy
it from Him.
Too much mixture in the way people think.
Be of help to others and Creator will be of help to you.

Rose




--- In Wisdom_of_the_Andes@..., Eric Rodriguez
<wayqemunay@...> wrote:
>
>
> I understand what you are saying , and that we all have different
ways of looking at things. I also see that there is 1000's reasons
that people may find to feel comfortable with what they do or don't
do. We are all here to learn.
> In my opinion, One thing is to accept what people (the village) are
willing to give voluntarily. And another is to find a way to make a
living from it. Traditionally speaking, I also learned that when a
healer was not real, and the sick person either died or did not
healed, the penalty was either exile or death.
> It is not really of my personal concern what is that you or anyone
do, what was told that is ok to do, or how thing are particularly
done. I am just trying to show another point of view that hopefully
will help balance things.
> You say that even in the mountains of Peru they charge money. I am
sure that the reasons why they charge are very much understandable.
If they are making such a profit why didn't you or anyone else stayed
there? I know that, the money many of them charge is to help the
people, not for the medicine man to make a living from it.
> Sacred things should not be confused, they should be respect it.
But that is just my opinion.
> Like I said before, the power does not come from the healer, but
thru the healer.
> When an artist created a painting, do you see the name of the brush
he used to create the work of art - horse hair bristle brush # 7 - or
the name of the artist - Picasso?
>
> I have already seeing that way too many groups and companies have
been created, where they are using ancient rituals, and making profit
of it, where I am sure some of which are really helping others with
that profit. But the fundamental concept of Ayni is based on the
people being in balance with the universe, while each person
maintains balance with the universe and its relatives.
> Please, everyone don't take this personal. This is just one man's
opinion, and I am just speaking in general.
> I wish you well, peace and love.
>
> Wayqe Munay
> ________________________________
> > To: Wisdom_of_the_Andes@...
> > From: piglet@...
> > Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:46:45 -0500
> > Subject: re: [Wisdom_of_the_Andes]
> >
> >
> > quick note on charging fees:
> >
> > traditionally- a village supported its healer. much the same way
the old
> > fashioned doctor might often be paid in chickens/eggs/ produce
etc.
> >
> > we live in a modern world where there are logistics. like rent,
groceries
> > etc.
> >
> > however- as Juan nunez taught- for some people, 10.00 IS a lot of
money.
> > is it necessary to charge 400.00/hr-session? probably not.. maybe
ask
> > yourself what you need realistically and fairly ( noting that
often,
> > undercharging makes people think it isn't as good or worth it-
strange
> > society). and be flexible- be willing to work an occasional
barter or a
> > low fee. something- some exchange, ayni is always generally
good.. it is
> > the investment of the client in their healing and work. a good
rule of
> > thumb is- is this work for my hands.. if so.. then a solution
presents, if
> > not- then say thank you for this offer- let me give you some
names that
> > might be able to assist you better.
> >
> > even in the mountains of peru- they charge to teach. ex- I have
read
> > several accounts of people who chose the pampamasoyeq route
because it was
> > within the range of what they could afford. these healers and
amazing
> > people, but please let us not over-romanticize them, either.
> >
> > be well
> >
> > Teri
> >
> > At 08:04 AM 2/11/2008, you wrote:
> >
> > Hello Robert and everyone,
> > Thank you for your good thought and wishes. I also hope to travel
to Peru
> > soon, I am definitively due. Wayqe is not my spirit name, that
was the
> > name of a dog I had. I called him Wayqe Munay Q'osq'oruna
> > and every time I said that he would understand it better that I
did and
> > wiggle his tail and smile and would come happy to lick my face
and hands.
> > He was such an smart fellow. I don't know Quecha either just a
few little
> > words. Well my friend, I wish you all good, and blessing of God
clear your
> > path.
> >
> > P.S.
> > By the way. There is something I forgot to mention in my last
email. For
> > the people that have learned about Peruvian Shamanism and are
charging $
> > to teach. I don't mean to interfere with your free will, but it
is my duty
> > to say that it is not necessary to charge $ to teach it. Maybe it
is not
> > necessary to charge $ fee to heal either. I understand that
things cost
> > money, and we all need money to cover certain costs such as
renting a
> > place where it can fit lots of people, or food and lodge for them
I guess.
> > But also it would be a good thing to help people and welcome them
if that
> > can't afford the fees.
> >
> >
> >
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