--- In aspiesdugout@..., John Wright <john@...> wrote:
>
> astroned wrote:
> > Gday everyone,
> >
> > The book and gentlemen you spoke of has (apparently) been of use for
> > my family to establish a better understanding of there son and
> > brother. Does anybody have a list of resources (books,videos, etc)
> > that would help both myself and my family understand who i am...?
> >
> > Take care all;
> > ned
> >
> >
> >
> BTW can you configure your mail client to quote what you are
replying to?
> I'm sure no one here knows.
>
>
> John Wright
>


My apologies to John and all,

I am not using a mail client i am simply replying within the page.

Take care all;
ned

astroned wrote:
> Gday everyone,
>
> The book and gentlemen you spoke of has (apparently) been of use for
> my family to establish a better understanding of there son and
> brother. Does anybody have a list of resources (books,videos, etc)
> that would help both myself and my family understand who i am...?
>
> Take care all;
> ned
>
>
>
BTW can you configure your mail client to quote what you are replying to?
I'm sure no one here knows.


John Wright

astroned wrote:
> Gday everyone,
>
> The book and gentlemen you spoke of has (apparently) been of use for
> my family to establish a better understanding of there son and
> brother. Does anybody have a list of resources (books,videos, etc)
> that would help both myself and my family understand who i am...?
>
In the post I made the other day I mentioned Tony Attwood - he lives
most of the time
in Australia even though he is English, and some people refer to him as
St. Tony!

I believe he will be in Scotland some time this year though.

One good book is his "Complete Guide to Asperger's syndrome" which was
published
last year and has been very useful to me. Smaller than that but often
quoted is Liane
Holliday Willey's book "Pretending to be Normal". This is a good
resource - both of these
books talk about adults and realistically as well. Both Liane and one of
her daughters
has AS so her book can and does talk from both perspectives. Its also
good for other
people to help realise who we are, so this may be something you are
looking for.

Videos I don't know much about but Mozart and The Whale which I
mentioned is about
a man and a woman who both have AS and the love affair between them. Its
really good
  - my wife and I watched it and she was laughing out loud at the
parallels between me
and Donald - the male lead in the film.

John Wright

Gday everyone,

The book and gentlemen you spoke of has (apparently) been of use for
my family to establish a better understanding of there son and
brother. Does anybody have a list of resources (books,videos, etc)
that would help both myself and my family understand who i am...?

Take care all;
ned

Dear Everyone

>Did any of you manage to see the TV programme on Wed night 30 July on BBC2
>I think it was.  It was about a single mother in Blackpool who has 7 children
>(husband seems to have disappeared), 4 of whom either have autism/aspergers/and
>dyspraxia disorders. The mother does not have an autism disorder. The children
>were very hard to deal with and the household was mess  and chaos, but the
>mother was doing the best she could given her  circumstances.  She said that
>the hardest part is going out in public.

This would be about Luke Jackson's family - the young lad who wrote "Freaks,
Geeks and Asperger's syndrome" some time ago. The BBC made two programs about
them, one a play with Helena Bonham-Carter playing the mother and the other a
documentary with the family themselves. I think they originally went out on BBC4
- I could be wrong there, but I remember them well since these were the programs
which turned out to be the "lightbulb" moment for me, which everyone seems to
have
one way or another where they suddenly realise "I'm just like that!"

>It was an eye opener for me to see someone else's households daily life,
however
>what shocked me was that my household is just the same and in some instances
worse.
>Because I am a mother and I have Aspergers and my son has finally been
diagnosed
>with dyspraxia (but it could be more than that - he is aged 6) and my 4 year
old
>son is showing early signs of Aspergers too (he cant stand noise, the feel of
lots
>of clothes, cant deal with change, is super bright etc) I feel that I have to
cope
>with about the same load, if not more, because I cant think straight when I
have
>to multi task and when sensory perceptions become too much. She had the same
dreadful
>experience at the supermarket that I do (but only with her children, not her)
but I
>have it with 2 kids and with myself.  What I'm wanting to have a whinge about
is that
>support is so very scarce.  I've just been onto as many autism/asperger
websites as I
>can find, only to discover that most resources seem to be aimed mainly at
people who
>have to deal with autistic spectrum disorders.  I went to the Wessex autism
website
>- it seems to cater to everyone except us.  Does anyone know where I can go to
a
>monthly meeting where I can get together with Aspergers people.  Or are there
any
>annual conferences for us, those Adults with Aspergers.  Everything seems to be
>geared towards educating carers and catching symptoms in children early and
dealing
>with children.  Are we the forgotten ones - those adults who in many instances
have
had to battle through life for years and years before finding out that they have
Aspergers.

That last sentence is me to a T.

There is a general feeling that most support services are aimed at kids, and
little
realisation that these kids grow up - this is recognised by all sorts of people,
including
academics like Tony Attwood, Simon Baron-Cohen and Digby Tantam, all of whom
have written papers
or books at one time and another about adults with Aspergers or aimed at adults
with Aspergers.
So lots of realisation but precious little funding We have a local group, the
chairwoman of which
has tried to influence groups aimed at the parents of kids and been thrown out
when they realised
it was her that was autistic not her children. You might get lucky if you talk
to the local
Jobcentre - I did and they put me in touch with all that we get in terms of
local support, in
my case, this was a local group with monthly meetings and the local branch of
Prospects (run by the NAS)

The NAS wrote a report called "Ignored or Ineligible" about Asperger's in Adults
in 2001. This
might give you a clue as to society's attitudes.

I first saw the programs at the end of 2005 - I think they may have been repeats
though!
And that was when I realised I had Asperger's as well. It took me from then to
last December
to get any kind of recognition that I was what I was by anyone in health care,
and that was
after writing many letters to my MP. I'm in Scotland, I guess you are in England
since you
mention Wessex.

This has turned my employer's attitude as well - I'd come across the sort of
manager who
thought I was just lazy or defective, but now I have a formal diagnosis their
attitude
has altogether changed. That makes me lucky I guess. I was reading yesterday
about
a woman who was wrongly diagnosed or not diagnosed at all for over 30 years,
including some
time in prison. I'm not stupid, I have a first degree in Physics and a Masters
in Engineering,
but I was being treated like a dumb shmuck.

>I know I'm new but am I missing something.  Where are the resources that should
be there
>for us.  I must be blind because I cant find anything.  And its ten times worse
when your
>parents and family just dont want to know about it.

There generally aren't any - you're not blind! I suspect you have to fight for
what you get.
But there are so many people with Asperger's you might well find a local support
group if
you keep your eyes open.

>I'm a bit down in the dumps today!

>Lisa

Some one once told me I'd probably been depressed all my life. Since I'm 58 now
that's a long time!
Get a copy of Mozart and the Whale as well!

John Wright

Gday Everyone,

Firstly do any men with AS post and secondly do the IM thingamajig?

As (no pun indented) only ladies write and I really whan't to learn as
(again) much as (ahhh) possible from those with a perspective as
(sorry) close to mine. No offence ladies - i truly dont intend to be
rude.

I welcome the conversation of any with which to discuss all things AS,
but its just from what i have heard the stronger sex have a different
experience to us men.

I have kept my computer on all the time in anticipation of contact
with fellow Aspies but not much has happened.

Probably me just wanting things to happen yesterday as usual so please
excuse this newb (im getting more web savy!)if he doesnt understand
the rules of engagment yet....

Take care all, stay strong;
ned

Gday,

Wow did you hit the nail on the head or what. Being in Australia I
haven't seen the show you are referring to however the same occurs
here. Trust me!

Not only is there a huge disparity in the funding and resources
allocated to 'us' there is further discrimination (again funding and
resources etc) to the 'undiagnosed generations'.

I personally was finally correctly diagnosed after years of
misdiagnoses from people that should have picked it up! To ad insult
to injury the allocation of resources given to older Aspies is to say
the least pitiful and embarrassing for a country that has long held
the tag and or sound byte; "The lucky country".

By the way. We all have really bad days. Trust me i have been "on the
edge shrinking back from the edge" for nearly a month now. Stick in
there and remember you have friends you haven't even met yet out there.

Warmest regards;
ned

--- In aspiesdugout@..., "Gabrielle" <molqurie@...> wrote:
>
> i am 27 and have AS would love to chat with you. i dont reply on here
> very often as i am busy with life. :-]
>

  Gday Gabrielle, I added you to my Yahoo thingamajig and sent a
message to see if you would like to be a yahoo fiend. I will tell you
now i am a terribly slow typer so if im allowed it would be great if i
can use my microphone... I was only Diagnosed in November of 2007
(though i always knew i was different and had trouble fitting in here
on earth) so i simply can not wait to make lasting friends on line to
speak with.

I hope this message finds you well, and i cant wait to speak with you.

Kind Regards;
ned

--- In aspiesdugout@..., "Gabrielle" <molqurie@...> wrote:
>
> i am 27 and have AS would love to chat with you. i dont reply on here
> very often as i am busy with life. :-]
>

--- In aspiesdugout@..., "finddavidandlisa"
<finddavidandlisa@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Everyone
>
> Did any of you manage to see the TV programme on Wed night 30 July
on
> BBC2 I think it was.  It was about a single mother in Blackpool who
> has 7 children (husband seems to have disappeared), 4 of whom
either
> have autism/aspergers/and dyspraxia disorders. The mother does not
> have an autism disorder.
> The children were very hard to deal with and the household was mess
> and chaos, but the mother was doing the best she could given her
> circumstances.  She said that the hardest part is going out in
public.
>
> It was an eye opener for me to see someone else's households daily
> life, however what shocked me was that my household is just the
same
> and in some instances worse. Because I am a mother and I have
> Aspergers and my son has finally been diagnosed with dyspraxia (
but
> it could be more than that - he is aged 6) and my 4 year old son is
> showing early signs of Aspergers too (he cant stand noise, the feel
> of lots of clothes, cant deal with change, is super bright etc) I
> feel that I have to cope with about the same load, if not more,
> because I cant think straight when I have to multi task and when
> sensory perceptions become too much. She had the same dreadful
> experience at the supermarket that I do (but only with her
children,
> not her) but I have it with 2 kids and with myself.
>
> What I'm wanting to have a whinge about is that support is so very
> scarce.  I've just been onto as many autism/asperger websites as I
> can find, only to discover that most resources seem to be aimed
> mainly at people who have to deal with autistic spectrum
disorders.
> I went to the Wessex autism website - it seems to cater to everyone
> except us.  Does anyone know where I can go to a monthly meeting
> where I can get together with Aspergers people.  Or are there any
> annual conferences for us, those Adults with Aspergers.  Everything
> seems to be geared towards educating carers and catching symptoms
in
> children early and dealing with children.  Are we the forgotten
ones -
>  those adults who in many instances have had to battle through life
> for years and years before finding out that they have Aspergers.
>
> I know I'm new but am I missing something.  Where are the resources
> that should be there for us.  I must be blind because I cant find
> anything.
>
> And its ten times worse when your parents and family  just dont
want
> to know about it.
>
> I'm a bit down in the dumps today!
>
> regards
> Lisa
>

i would have to agree with the "dead mail drop" comment as i hate
those  fake "iam so pretty" girls.
i cant undertsand how any guy or girl would find that active for more
5 mintues.
the way i see it if you are that damn perfect why are you here.
from me

i am 27 and have AS would love to chat with you. i dont reply on here
very often as i am busy with life. :-]

Gday from Australia,

My name is Nicholas or Ned(my nickname <lol> since birth). I am a 28
year old male living in Queensland Australia and would love to meet
other AS 25-30 people to chat with over instant messenger or this group.

Kind Regards;
ned

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this is not the first time this person has e-mailed me
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thannk you for the seaming intended help in this mater
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every blessing
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--- In aspiesdugout@..., Anna-Rose Mersh <armersh@...>
wrote:
> I am a young woman as it would appear you are there for these sorts
> of e-mails are not apropriet to be sent.

Firstly, the non-working link once again shows that this is NOT A REAL
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Secondly, if it were, it would be your response, not those of men, that
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This is a problem for the administrator or moderator to remove the
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Collin

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I am a young woman as it would appear you are there
for these sorts of e-mails are not apropriet to be
sent.
also there may be unwanted interest from men

if you truly have the same interests as me then by all
means please go on face book and join some of the
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www.autismhelp.com/uk or call +1 (413) 229-2100

LECTURE DATES + VENUES

Birmingham
SATURDAY 22 September 2007
9-11:30AM
University of Central England in Birmingham, Birmingham B42 2SU

Oxford
TUESDAY 25 September 2007
10-12:30AM
Kassam Stadium, Oxford OX4 4Xp

Brighton
THURSDAY 27 September 2007
7-9:30PM
Holiday Inn Brighton, Brighton BN1 2JF

Portsmouth
SUNDAY 30 September 2007
10AM-12:30PM
Portsmouth Football Club, Portsmouth PO4 8RA

London
SUNDAY 30 September 2007
6:30-9PM
The London IBIS Earl's Court Hotel, SW6 1UD

London
WEDNESDAY 3 October 2007
7-9:30PM
The London IBIS Earl's Court Hotel, SW6 1UD

Cambridge
THURSDAY 4 October 2007
7-9:30PM
University of Cambridge Churchill College, Cambridge CB2 0DS




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greetings

my name is anna-Rose mersh

I have aspergers syndrome as you do. you must be
carefull who you solicit atention from as not every
one is good to know.

also if you wish to carry on with these things then be
very carefull - do not give out your address and make
sure some one knows about what you are doing and any
one that does contact you so that help can be at hand
if trouble arises.

please be carefull

every blessing
a-R

FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE
GAVE HIS ONE AND ONLY SON TO BE
OUR SACRIFICE FOR ALL OUR WRONG
THOUGHTS AND WORDS AND ACTIONS STRONG
THAT WHO EVER BELIEVES IN HIM TRULY
WILL WHEN DEAD GO THE HEAVEN SURLY
AND HAVE EVER LASTING LIFE IN HIM
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