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Re: [Atheism UK] Hello all,I have a help-question!

Woody Allen said "I don't mind the thought of dying I
just don't want to be there when it happens."
Once you are dead you won't notice the problem is
fearing it. Just as we could be paralysed by fear of
being mugged or run over but we just get on with life.
The thing is when I deconverted from Christianity I
didn't think "there goes my eternal life" but I need
to get on with the life I have and not waste it with
something which is ultimately false.

Norman

--- suntsatula <suntsatula@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

I know I am new,but I need your help and
advice.Supposing you are
all atheists,how do you overcome the fear of
death?This awful
feeling that you will disappear one day,that you won`t
be
anymore,that you won`t be able to say no more "I" or
"myself",that
the world will go on,people will laugh and cry and
live ,but without
you,because once you die,is forever,you`ll never live
again,you`ll
never know what happened with the dear ones,you`ll
never walk or see
the sun again..?How do you manage to survive knowing
we have only
one life?For me,it`s a nightmare.I need your
help,give me the
courage to resist!


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I understand myself just fine, why are you trolling in the group again? We already dealt with your supernaturalism last time. And yeah, I probably have tons of...
John PM Chappell
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Mar 8, 2005
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Woody Allen said "I don't mind the thought of dying I just don't want to be there when it happens." Once you are dead you won't notice the problem is fearing...
Norman Hansen
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Hi I wonder what you are resisting? Is it that you need to believe there is something there, after death, to help you through your life – that you may meet...
elizabeth_dehner
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Mar 2, 2005
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Don't wish your life away !!! Very good point Elizabeth. If you are not happy that this is it, and there is nothing thereafter, perhaps you are a secularist...
Vicky Moore (freeuk)
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Mar 2, 2005
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Very compassionate, Vicky, but surely the real issue isn't what we would LIKE to be waiting for us after death, but what IS waiting for us: oblivion. As I said...
Tony Kehoe
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Mar 2, 2005
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I repeat - how do you know any of what you say? You are going on your own reasoning, which is fine, but it is only reasoning, and probably will change over...
paul miller
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Mar 6, 2005
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By saying "secularist", what I think you may be referring to is that impossible "Sitting On The Fence" trick they like to call agnostic. This person calling...
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hi bollox, could you please provide a few links to thease other athiest groupes? it would be interesting to read their ideas. bolloxtoreligionists...
William Heywood
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No,I am not a secularist,nor an agnostic.Certainly not.I just wanted to know how could I overcome this fear that one day i`ll stop existing.This was all!And I...
Little Lucy
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Mar 4, 2005
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Ask yourself why you have this fear of not existing. Do animals have this fear? I would say not, at least I hope not, as I would not want them to sink to our...
paul miller
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I don`t have to ask myself,I know the answer:I have the fear of not existing because I am alive.Every living being fears death and is trying to avoid...
Little Lucy
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Mar 9, 2005
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You don't have to ask yourself because you have the answer? We can "know" only 2 things - one, that we are alive, and 2, SOMETHING exists, but we cannot be...
paul miller
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Mar 9, 2005
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There's that wonky word again, "spirituality". You know it means "breathing", right? As for animals, whether they are aware or not of their immortality is...
Tony Kehoe
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Oh... You're a solipsist?! Tony Kehoe Elite@... ... From: paul miller To: atheismuk2@... Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re:...
Tony Kehoe
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Hey ho, Tony. At least you can admit there is something which is not subject to death, if only tentatively. Tony Kehoe <elite@...> wrote:There's that wonky...
paul miller
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Well, the universe might well end at a later date (in fact, I'll lay money on it). What does that do to your claims? Tony Kehoe Elite@... ... From: paul...
Tony Kehoe
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Well, it might, or it might not. Try to imagine nothing, then I'll pay you whatever you want in terms of bets owed. By the way, how do you understand the...
paul miller
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Infinity is spatial; eternity is temporal. (Of course, as spacetime is really one concept, with space and time as opposite sides of the same coin, the...
Tony Kehoe
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You will probably see these questions as old hat, but what will the universe expand into? What will then happen when the universe comes to an "end"? Will the...
paul miller
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What do you mean by "expand into"? The universe will continue to wind down until there is no more energy left, and it reaches zero equilibrium. This scenario...
Tony Kehoe
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I would have thought that was fairly simple to understand, but alow me to "expand" on it. The matter brought into existence by the big bang would have to go...
paul miller
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OK, Paul, this is getting boring and old, as we answered all this previously at least once, however I shall now answer a few points you have raised, yet again....
John PM Chappell
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Mar 14, 2005
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If this is boring and old, that says more about you than the subject. I really do not have any axe to grind as regards trying to convince you or anyone else...
paul miller
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Mar 16, 2005
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WTF is "spirituality"? It sounds like a meaningless concept. You may not like the way the universe is, Paul, but wishing it were different will not make it so....
Tony Kehoe
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Mar 16, 2005
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Paul If you havn't stopped looking in. You asked a reasonable question about why there was only yourself John and Tony involved in the discussion. One reason...
Norman Hansen
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Mar 15, 2005
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No, space itself is expanding, Paul. That's why it's called an inflationary universe. Tony Kehoe Elite@... ... From: paul miller To:...
Tony Kehoe
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WHAT IS SPACE EXPANDING INTO? Tony Kehoe <elite@...> wrote:No, space itself is expanding, Paul. That's why it's called an inflationary universe. Tony Kehoe...
paul miller
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of course space is expanding that has been scientiflcally prooven p.s sox bout spelling ... That's why it's called an inflationary ... to paul ... alow me to ...
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Hi Norman, nice to hear from you. I apologise for my tone, but I sometimes get a little carried away with my arguments. I am not a particularly good debater...
paul miller
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Your question is meaningless. Space isn't expanding into anything; its own totality is expanding. Tony Kehoe Elite@... ... From: paul miller To:...
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