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#230 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 2:42 pm
Subject: Fw: [atherton] Atherton Forum Meeting
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Hi All
Please note change of meeting for this month it's not Tonight it's Next Wednesday 11th November 2009. 
 
NEXT MEETING
Wednesday 11th November, 7.30pm, Jubilee Hall/St Richards, Crab Tree Lane, Atherton.
 
There After will continue to be the First Tuesday of the month.
 
Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Chairman & Treasurer
Atherton Forum (Formerly)
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
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Dear all,
 
You are cordially invited to attend the next Public Meeting of Atherton Forum (formerly known as Atherton Residents Association), to be held;
 
Wednesday 11th November, 7.30pm, Jubilee Hall/St Richards, Crab Tree Lane, Atherton.
 
Please send any apologies by 5pm Tuesday 10th November.
 
Please feel free to contact us should you require any further details.
 
Yours faithfully,
 
Angela M Wilson, Secretary
(on behalf of)
Atherton Forum (formerly known as Atherton Residents Association)
160 Bolton Road, Atherton, Manchester M46 9LF.
Tel: 01942 795060.
 
 
 
 
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#229 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: Ivites To Atherton Forum General Meeting
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Hi All

Please note for Committee Meetings you are required to inform myself if you would like to be invited.

This only applies to Invited guest or people the committee want to invite.

 

Public meetings are open to all.

Next Public meeting is an Extra called meeting on the1st September 2009  7.30pm jubilee Hall.

 

Next Committee Meeting.

25th August 2009 Hesketh Manor Market Street ATHERTON 7pm

This is a Committee Meeting +

This meeting will be open to all invited Guest only. 

 

This affects all Atherton Residents.

 

Next public Event

Our next public meeting is 1st September 2009 at Jubilee Hall / St Richards Club.

All Residents may attend this meeting and are very welcome.

Atherton Forum is open to all residents with a M46 Post code others can be invited though the Chair Or Vice Chair.

alanbirtles@... &  stevenkris@... or in fact any of the committee, address on line two of this E-Mail

Atherton Forum /ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Month time 7.30p

 

So for the simple quick read is a committee meeting before a general meeting.

 

General Meetings are

1st September 2009

6th October 2009.

4th November 2009

1st December 2008.

 

Committee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.

Tuesdays. 7pm

Next Meeting Committee

 

Committee Meetings are

25th August 2009

29th September 2009

27th October 2009

24th November 2009

15th December 2009

 

 Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Chairman & Treasurer
Atherton Forum (Formerly)
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@...

#228 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:32 am
Subject: Fw: [atherton] Re: Fw: Re:Atherton Forum formally know as Atherton Resident Association
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AGM Held on 4th August 2009.
 
Atherton Forum has now got a new committee comprising of 12 members any others can be invited as invited Members.
 
If you have received this E-Mail then you are invited.
Please note for Committee Meetings you are required to inform myself if you would like to be invited.
Public meetings are open to all.
Next Public meeting is a Extra called meeting on the 18th of August 7.30pm jubilee Hall.
 
Next Committee Meeting.
25th August 2009 Hesketh Manor Market Street ATHERTON 7pm
This is a Committee Meeting +
This meeting will be open to all invited Guest only. 
 
This effects all Atherton Residents.
 
Next public Event
Our next public meeting in 18th August 2009.
Followed by a new date the 1st September 2009 at jubilee Hall / St Richards Club.
All Residents may attend this meeting and are very welcome.
Atherton Forum is open to all residents with a M46 post code others can be invited.
 
Atherton Forham /ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Month time 7.30p
 
So for the simple quick read is a committee meeting before a general meeting.
 
18th August 2009.
1st September 2009
6th October 2009.
4th November 2009
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Tuesdays . 7pm
Next Meeting Committee
 
 
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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#227 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:17 am
Subject: Fw: [atherton] Re: Fw: Re:Atherton Forum formally know as Atherton Resident Association
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Subject: [atherton] Re: Atherton Forum formally known as Atherton Resident Association
 
AGM Held on 4th August 2009.
 
Atherton Forum has now got a new committee comprising of 12 members any others can be invited as invited Members.
 
If you have received this E-Mail then you are invited.
 
Please note for Committee Meetings you are required to inform myself if you would like to be invited.
Public meetings are open to all.
 
Next Public meeting is a Extra called meeting on the 18th of August 7.30pm jubilee Hall.
 
Next Committee Meeting.
25th August 2009 Hesketh Manor Market Street ATHERTON 7pm
This is a Committee Meeting +
This meeting will be open to all invited Guest only. 
 
This effects all Atherton Residents.
 
Next public Event
Our next public meeting in 18th August 2009.
Followed by a new date the 1st September 2009 at Jubilee Hall / St Richards Club.
All Residents may attend this meeting and are very welcome.
Atherton Forum is open to all residents with a M46 post code others can be invited.
 
Atherton Forham /ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Month time 7.30p
 
So for the simple quick read is a committee meeting before a general meeting.
 
18th August 2009.
1st September 2009
6th October 2009.
4th November 2009
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Tuesdays . 7pm
Next Meeting Committee
 
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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#226 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:10 pm
Subject: Fw: Re: Atherton Residents Association
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Hi all
This is part of E-Mail from Stephen Hall
Should anyone have any comments please send them to me at my Address so we don't clog up the site.
Subject: Re: Atherton Residents Association
 
Hi Alan,
 
I'm trying to think up some catchy slogan or slogans on the theme of we need a High School for Atherton, but haven't come up with anything yet.

I'll need to put my thinking head on as Wurzel Gummidge used to say, and see what I can come up with between now and our next meeting on the 18th.

I'll also send you some ideas concerning what I think we need to do practically from now on to win a our fight, which it might be a good idea to circulate to everyone before the meeting so that people can have some time to mull over them and suggest amendments and/or alternatives to them. Whatever we all agree should then be put forward to the people of Atherton as our plan of action to secure a first class Community run High School in our town to rival not only any in the borough but any in the country.

I think the idea of a new Atherton Town Council, or a committee of parents from Atherton taking on the management and running of such a new non-denominational Community High School will much better capture the imagination of the people of our town than our continuing to flog the dead horse of saving the current  CofE High School, which even the CofE has washed its hands of, and which under the joint management of the CofE and the Council's over the years has led the School to the sorry situation it is in today, as well as the poor reputation, rightly or wrongly,  it has created for itself amongst large section of Atherton's townsfolk.

Yes HFHS might be improving now, but the Governing body of the school, given its current make-up, can't be relied on to lead it anywhere other than to it closure. We need a new school and a new Governing body on the current HFHS site which ALL the people of Atherton would be proud of, and given the appropriate funding from the Council, their children might excel at educationally. Also one which might incorporate some or all of the 14-19 vocational courses which have been suggested by the Council for their  proposed PFI funded 14-19 Centre at the site once the HFHS has been closed and the existing buildings demolished.

I'm confident we can win this argument and we can achieve this aim if we all work together and wage a united fight for this objective.

Best wishes

Stephen



On 5 Aug 2009, at 22:22, alanbirtles@... wrote:

 
Hi All
I have sent this to the addressee's below I now am inviting all other members committee and public to our next meeting details below.
Please try to attend.
This will cover a High School for ATHERTON (The Way Forward).
Atherton's own Council.(The Way Forward).
And the usually Agenda items.
   
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
 
 
Date: 05/08/2009 22:03:23
Subject: Atherton Residents Association
 
Hi All
I would like to invite all of the above in the Addresses of this E-Mail.
To the next meeting of the Atherton Residents Association.
There was a fully attended meeting  on the 4th August 2009 in which I was elected as Chairman as I have in the past only been acting.
We have a full committee.
The Meeting will take place at Jubilee hall at 7.30pm on Tuesday 18th August 2009 this is a public meeting.
There have been some changes to ARA name and will as soon as I can make the necessary adjustments to documents and bank details Ect
Will now be known as ATHERTON FOR
UM.
This was the chosen name of the public and committee.
 
 
Please reply to this E-Mail if you can attend or not.
  
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060

 

#225 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:48 pm
Subject: Fw: RE: Forum Meeting
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Date: 06/08/2009 08:46:19
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Petition forms both sides need to be printed
 


Councillor Norman Bradbury

 


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Sent: 05 August 2009 21:44
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Subject: Re: Forum Meeting

Hi Norman
I totally agree.
No Problem with Bob we will co-op him on next meeting.
The Committee are meeting at 7pm briefly while public meeting will start at 7.30pm
Please can you send the form to sign please. 
 
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Registrar The Aviation Society
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Date: 05/08/2009 11:29:23
Subject: Forum Meeting
 

Hi Alan,
             I think if Brian Wilson does accepts the invitation to the meeting we could do without Peter Franzen calling him as we need to be constructive. I think it should be made clear to everybody that polititians or representatives from political parties should only attend if invited by the full committee.

I talked to Bob Splaine last night and he said that he would also like to be a member of the new Forum Committee, is it possible to propose him as a member at the next meeting which he will be attending as he's only away for ten days.


                                                                                                                  Regards


 Councillor Norman Bradbury


 
 

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#224 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Wed Aug 5, 2009 9:22 pm
Subject: Fw: Atherton Residents Association
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Hi All
I have sent this to the addressee's below I now am inviting all other members committee and public to our next meeting details below.
Please try to attend.
This will cover a High School for ATHERTON (The Way Forward).
Atherton's own Council.(The Way Forward).
And the usually Agenda items.
   
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@...
 
 
Date: 05/08/2009 22:03:23
Subject: Atherton Residents Association
 
Hi All
I would like to invite all of the above in the Addresses of this E-Mail.
To the next meeting of the Atherton Residents Association.
There was a fully attended meeting  on the 4th August 2009 in which I was elected as Chairman as I have in the past only been acting.
We have a full committee.
The Meeting will take place at Jubilee hall at 7.30pm on Tuesday 18th August 2009 this is a public meeting.
There have been some changes to ARA name and will as soon as I can make the necessary adjustments to documents and bank details Ect
Will now be known as ATHERTON FORHAM.
This was the chosen name of the public and committee.
 
 
Please reply to this E-Mail if you can attend or not.
  
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@...

#223 From: Stuart Gerrard <stuartgerrard@...>
Date: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:09 pm
Subject: RE: [Atherton Residents Association] Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
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Subject: [Atherton Residents Association] Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association

 

 Re: Atherton Resident Association.
 
Next Committee Meeting
28th July 2009009 Hesketh Manor Market Street ATHERTON 7pm
This meeting will be open to all invited Guest and will concentrate solely on Hesketh Fletcher School.
 
This effects all Atherton Residents.
 
Our next public meeting in August would be to late to address your feelings on this matter however it will be discussed at the meeting for public on the 4th August 2009 at jubilee Hall / St Richards Club.
All Residents may attend this meeting and are very welcome.
 
Next public Event
 
 
[Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7.30pm.
 
4th August 2009.



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#222 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
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 Re: Atherton Resident Association.
 
Next Committee Meeting
28th July 2009009 Hesketh Manor Market Street ATHERTON 7pm
This meeting will be open to all invited Guest and will concentrate solely on Hesketh Fletcher School.
 
This effects all Atherton Residents.
 
Our next public meeting in August would be to late to address your feelings on this matter however it will be discussed at the meeting for public on the 4th August 2009 at jubilee Hall / St Richards Club.
All Residents may attend this meeting and are very welcome.
 
Next public Event
 
 
[Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7.30pm.
 
4th August 2009.
6th October 2009.
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Due To attendance has change to Tuesdays .
Next Meeting Committee
 
28th July 2009
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Assoiation
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@tiscali.co.uk
 



 
 
 
 
 
 

#221 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: Correct E-Mail address for H F School
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Correct E-Mail address for H / F School
 
 
   
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@...

#220 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: More for the website
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Hi Josie
I have placed on Web site E-Mail site. 
Thank You For the Docs.
Uploaded to site.
 
 
Date: 03/07/2009 17:28:07
Subject: More for the website
 
Hi Alan
 
I have attached a response to the meeting which was sent to the papers and a copy of a letter given out to parents which other parents could fill out and send online to Wigan.
 
I also think that if you advertise the school website www.heskethfletcher.sch.uk people can see all that we do within school and in the community which may persuade more people to support us.
 
See you soon
 
Josie
 
   
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@...

#219 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 7:08 pm
Subject: Fw: More for the website
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Hi All
Results off meeting with Andy Burham last Friday.
Date: 03/07/2009 17:28:07
Subject: More for the website
 
Hi Alan
 
I have attached a response to the meeting which was sent to the papers and a copy of a letter given out to parents which other parents could fill out and send online to Wigan.
 
I also think that if you advertise the school website www.heskethfletcher.sch.uk people can see all that we do within school and in the community which may persuade more people to support us.
 
See you soon
 
Josie
 

Local residents/parents meeting with Andy Burnham Friday 26th June 2009

 

The people protesting against the closure of Hesketh Fletcher High School thought that the meeting was well attended by a range of stakeholders including parents, past pupils of the school, teaching and non-teaching staff, governors and local residents. One notable absence was any representative of Manchester Diocese which has a role to play in the governance and the future of the school.

 

Whilst Andy Burnham seemed willing to listen to all the concerns expressed by the people at the meeting it was obvious that he had already made up his mind about what the future of education was to be in Atherton; he was not as open minded as the people most directly concerned with this issue hoped that he would be. Although he made notes and assured us that he would take our concerns to the LA the meeting did not get the feeling that there were any guarantees that the LA would listen.

 

The people at the meeting were not convinced that either the LA or Andy fully understood the passionate feelings that this issue has evoked in the local community or that any of the many questions have been answered throughout this very flawed consultation process. The local community remembers both Andy and councilor Susan Loudon coming into school and saying that Hesketh Fletcher would not close. Of course in Political Speak this means that they can interpret that as not necessarily keeping a High School but having some form of Educational Establishment on this site. Again there is no guarantee that this will happen as it actually says in the consultation booklet on page 3 that there may be 14-19 provision here.

 

The people feel that the key issue is really how the LA can keep a school at the heart of the community, a phrase frequently repeated in the same document, when Atherton children will be scattered through Westleigh, Tyldesley, Bedford and Hindley. Community cohesion will disintegrate in Atherton and all the ensuing problems that go with such as breakdown will be intensified and aggravated. If this closure goes ahead Atherton Children will always be on the periphery of any school that they go to; they will be listed on the admissions criteria as being outside the area and only be considered after looked after children, local children and siblings of those already in the schools I.e. At the bottom of the list. How will they feel if they are rejected from first and second choice schools?

 

Atherton children deserve an Atherton High School and it is discriminatory to suggest that they can easily travel. Why should they have this added pressure when beginning their secondary education? It puts them at a disadvantage before they even start secondary school. Parents also want to know why the LA Governor for the school, councilor Susan Loudon, is working for its closure. Surely the purpose of a school governor is to fight for the rights of the school and its pupils not against them? It is felt that this is a conflict of interest on her part and that she should resign. Councilor Loudons repeated claim that the school has only had 60+ first choices muddies the issue as parents have been influenced by the rumors of closure that have been circulating for three years. Where was the councils guarantee of clear catchments areas then?

 

Finally the people at the meeting gained the impression that the decision has already been made although the consultation process only finished that day and now the LA has to consider all the responses before a report is produced for the end of July so that the Cabinet can make its decision. All of this before GCSE results are published which could have strengthened the case for keeping the school open. In the end what the council and Andy Burnham are not doing is listening to the wishes of the local voters, people who elected them to serve the community, but who will, no doubt, make their feelings very clear at the next local and general elections.
 

 

Please print off I will up load to both sites.

 

Atherton Parents Association

 

1st July 2009

 

To Whom it May concern

 

I would like to add my support to the request that Hesketh Fletcher High School remains open. The community of Atherton, which numbers approximately 22,000 people, deserves to have a High School of its own to serve as a centre for community cohesion and development. Without the High School, one of the few remaining facilities that the town has, there would be nothing left in Atherton for the local community to focus on and this would inevitably lead to social breakdown.

 

Apart from the vital issue of leaving the heart of the community where it is, I would also like to say that the school provides an excellent nurturing and learning environment for my child and that their attachment to the school is very real and needs to be maintained. I do not see why they cannot remain at the school which is easy to access, cuts down on the need for transport and delivers an extremely good standard of education. The staff are rightly proud of what they do and the contribution that they make to developing the skills of Athertons future residents.

 

I can understand anyone wanting to improve the standards of further education at this end of the Borough but do not accept that it has to be a stand alone 14 to 19 centre. It could, just as easily, be an 11 to 19 centre and Athertons children would have the opportunity to remain where they flourish for longer. Andy Burnham has assured us that our concerns will be addressed and that everyones opinion will be considered before the LA makes a decision. I hope that the same guarantee will be forthcoming from the local council. The 2,200 signatures on our petition clearly indicate what the local people want.

 

My point is, why change what works well for Atherton and make us a dormitory town on the edge of several other townships? This will not improve our confidence in our local representatives and we need to be listened to.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

Parent of ______________________

 

Address:


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#218 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: [atherton] Re: ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher
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Please go to links to find the two doc's under Hesketh Fletcher.
 
 
Sorry forgot to attach docs
Date: 25/06/2009 21:11:03
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Subject: ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher
 
HI All
 
ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher,
 
20 People turned up to discus that very subject.
 
There is another meeting with Andy Burham Friday 6pm at the cricket club.
(Sorry I am working)
 
There was a great deal of discussion in fact for 2 hours.(7pm -9pm)
 
The next meet of the ARA will be 29th July 2009 Tuesday at (Hesketh Manor)
7pm upon we will find a representation to go to
Wigan on the 30th to be present at the meeting in the Town Hall 3pm.
 
Then at the Public meeting on the 4th August 2009 Tuesday at Jubilee Hall St
Richards Club at 7.30pm we will report all that has taken place.
I would ask as many people to attend this event.
 
So at least we can report to the people of Atherton.
Out of 22000 we should fill jubilee hall.
 
I hope that all that is taking place that we will have had our say.
 
 
Just for all we had the support of  Norman Bradbury & Bob Splaine at the
Meeting on Tuesday night.
 
Enclosed Two Docs
 
Building Schools for the Future
Consultation Response
 
Question 1: Should we use BSF to transform schools in the way described?
 
Yes, we should use BSF funds to transform our schools and few could quarrel
With the aims as set out in the consultation document.  Unfortunately the
Plans do not match the aspirations.  The aims have not been used as a
Yardstick to test the detail of the plans.  The cost of the transformation
In terms of the disruption to the education of pupils, the impact on the
Communities affected and the environment of the borough (particularly in
Terms of travel and transport congestion) is way too high.
 
For example, Atherton has had a secondary school at the “heart of its
community’” for a hundred years or so.  This has meant that the majority of
The population has shared a common experience.  Is there a better way to
Ensure ‘community cohesion’?  Dispersing that majority to schools outside
The township will be detrimental to a tight knit community. Over the last
Thirty years the adults have dispersed to find work elsewhere, following the
Decline of the major industries in the town. If the High School is closed
And a centre is established that serves children from across the whole of
The east of the borough, what will be left to hold the community together?
Atherton will become just another dormitory town lacking the heart that is
Currently its strength.
 
Through the consultation it is necessary to heed the concerns of the people
Of the town who have demonstrated their opposition to the plans in a public
Protest.
 
Question 2:  Does our vision describe what we want to achieve?
 
Yes in terms of today’s preoccupations.  It cannot, however be described as
‘visionary’.  It pays scant attention to what education in thirty years will
Look like.  For example, do those in charge of education in the future
Really think that “the latest technology – for example interactive white
Boards and computers” ( p.2), already widely used in most schools, describes
In any way the technology likely to be in use even ten years from now?  The
Vision is demonstrably limited in relation to technology and is equally
Limited in considering what is likely to be required of education in the
Future.
 
Similarly, there is some mention of the need to limit travel in the
Interests of the environment, yet this concern is ignored in the plans for
Children in Atherton.
 
Would it not be preferable to invest in what already serves the communities,
  Replacing or upgrading the buildings rather than destroying schools that
Serve their communities?
 
Question 3:  Should schools work together to turn our vision into reality?
 
Yes but if schools are to work together why is one school Fred Longworth
High School missed out of the Phase 1 plans and any developments for that
School deferred to phase 2?  Surely all schools affected by planned changes
In an area need to move together, especially since Fred Longworth is the
Closest school to Hesketh Fletcher, the school that the plan proposes should
Be closed?  Failure to include plans for Fred Longworth has limited the
Choice for existing pupils at Hesketh Fletcher and assumed that an 11-16
School of 1500 in Tyldesley is a good thing.
 
Question 4:  Have we considered all the issues that you feel need to be
Addressed as part of the re-organization?  If not please explain what you
think we have missed out.
 
Many of the issues have been identified but have not been fully addressed in
the plans.  It would appear that the plans have not been scrutinized
sufficiently to show up the inconsistencies that are present in the detail
of the proposals.  They seem to smack more of expediency than planning.
Clearly there is a limit to available funding, but these plans do not
describe the future convincingly, do not make best use of what is currently
available and sell the community of some 28,000 people in Atherton short.
The cost to the community of Atherton through the loss of its High School is
too great.
 
One very important issue not addressed is the optimum size for 11-16 schools
  When Fred Longworth had 1350 on role it was more difficult to manage. I500
is too many.  Three schools, each of about a thousand, would be much better
than the current proposal. Examination of the school numbers, in relation to
plans for the west of the borough, suggests that schools of around 750 are
acceptable.  If that is the case in the west then why is this not true for
the east?
 
Question 6:  Do you agree that local children should have priority for a
place at a local school?
 
For secondary school pupils of Atherton township this question is a vexed
one, since they will not have a “local secondary school” but will be on the
periphery of the all the others.  If, for example, they are given preference
for places at Fred Longworth, as the nearest school, what will then happen
to children in Mosley Common? This has been a difficult issue for many years
and the plans do not address it.
.
There does not appear to be much room for an increase in numbers in the area
  Considering the amount of building in and around Atherton and the need to
add classrooms to some local primaries, this would seem to be an important
consideration.
 
Question 7:  Do you think admission arrangements would be easier to
understand if each denominational school had a defined catchment area?
 
This is not the biggest problem that the plans for the future need to
consider particularly in the Atherton area.  The plans will result in the
closure of the only CE secondary school in the east of the borough.
 
Question 8:  What are your views on our proposal to establish two 14-19
Centres to deliver Diplomas and post-16 courses?
 
There are two surprising features of these proposals.  The first is the
absence of any reference to the local colleges.  What will their role be in
the education of 14-16 year olds in the east of the borough?  This is not at
all clear.  The professional experience of teaching this age group and
delivering vocational courses lies in the tertiary sector but the colleges
do not seem to figure in these plans.
 
There has been considerable investment in Leigh’s new 6th form centre but
this is not considered.
 
The second surprising feature is the way the plans seem to ignore the “home
grown” developments of skill centres that stemmed from the need to address
the lack of appropriate vocational education for some young people.  These
centres, deliberately located in industrial premises, have been largely
ignored.  Would it not have been better to learn from the experiences of
setting up these centres and successfully seeking employer support?  It is
interesting that the idea of a company limited by guarantee to run the
proposed centres has been borrowed from these developments while in other
respects they have been ignored.
 
Currently there is so little flesh on the bones of the proposals for the
skills centres that it is difficult to have much opinion of this part of the
plan.  The problem is that in order to establish the centres two schools
have to be closed –and for a pipe dream?
 
Question 9:  What do you think about the idea of the two area based trusts?
 
At the time of writing this idea seems to have been abandoned for lack of
support.
 
Question 10:  What are your views on community schools becoming foundation
School?
 
As for Question 9., this idea too seems to have found little support. Any
school with inherent problems in their building, such as acres of flat roofs
  would be mad to support this notion.
 
Of course, if all schools became foundation schools, it would play havoc
with the LA’s admissions procedures.
 
 
Question 11:  Overall do you think our proposals will help to develop
secondary education to meet the needs and challenges of the 21st Century?
 
NO.  For all the reasons detailed in the answers to the questions above
these plans fail to convince, in spite of the glossy publication.  They are
expedient rather than visionary. They fail to meet the needs and challenges
of the future and if implemented will be very costly for the communities
that the borough is supposed to serve.  Considering the strong public
opposition to the proposals pushing through this plan could be politically
disastrous, particularly at a time when the government is urging politicians
to connect with the people.
 
 
Other Questions.
 
Do you think that the document clearly explains why we are proposing to
discontinue Hesketh Fletcher CE and enlarge Westleigh High school?  Please
tell us what your concerns are.
 
The major reasons stated suggest that there is little support for a
secondary school in Atherton since numbers of first choice preferences are
low and GCSE results disappointing.  The numbers are low for two reasons.
The threat of closure was made public long before the choice of Secondary
school was made.  Consequently parents chose a school where the education of
their child would not be interrupted.  Secondly local parents naturally put
Fred Longworth as first choice hoping to secure a place at a more successful
school falling back on Westleigh when the option of Fred Longworth was
denied.
 
Scrutiny of the examination data for Hesketh Fletcher, over the last five
years, reveals interesting information.  There is little consistency year on
year in overall success as measured by 5 GCSEs A-A*,  32% in 2005, 50% in
2007. There seems to have been some improvement.   One consistent feature is
the poor performance in Maths and English.  The LA must have identified this
problem so surely it should have been tackled.  Why was Manchester Challenge
only involved when the school was chosen for closure?  It would appear that
Westleigh High School received funding at an earlier stage.
 
It would also appear that Hesketh Fletcher had a considerably lower budget
than other local secondary schools.  It was late receiving specialist status
  Unlike all the other local schools it has not received any Excellence
Cluster funding or support.  There must have been difficulty in finding the
necessary resources to bring about the required step change while other
schools forged ahead.   External advisory support is only partially
effective.  Additional staff based in the school, albeit requiring large
sums of additional school funding, is more valuable in raising levels of
pupil attainment.  It would therefore seem more sensible to have addressed
these problems rather than close the school.
 
Do you support the proposal to discontinue Hesketh Fletcher and offer
alternative places at Bedford, Westleigh and Fred Longworth High Schools?
 
  NO.  There are no places at Fred Longworth High School and never were. It
was misleading to include this possibility in the plan.  Travel
considerations for young pupils have been given little attention.
_____________
 
 
I have deliberately not filled in the questionnaire format provided in the
document since it seems to have been designed to generate a positive result
from any analysis of the responses.  This methodology is typical of the way
the consultation has been conducted.
 
One puzzle remains – how can a ‘drop-in session’ require an appointment?
 
One glaring omission from the questions has been any attempt to ask for an
evaluation of the consultation process, which in many ways has been
seriously flawed.  The local people do not trust the Local Authority, do not
trust their local councillor who has failed to support them and feel that
this is just another example of being dictated to.
 
 
Please Print off as many as you want an ask people to sign please hand in
say 29th July 2009.
Please find the doc enclosed.
 
 
 
NameAddressSign
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
 
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Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
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#217 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher
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Sorry forgot to attach docs
Date: 25/06/2009 21:11:03
Subject: ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher
 
HI All
 
ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher,
 
20 People turned up to discus that very subject.
 
There is another meeting with Andy Burham Friday 6pm at the cricket club. (Sorry I am working)
 
There was a great deal of discussion in fact for 2 hours.(7pm -9pm)
 
The next meet of the ARA will be 29th July 2009 Tuesday at (Hesketh Manor) 7pm upon we will find a representation to go to
Wigan on the 30th to be present at the meeting in the Town Hall 3pm.
 
Then at the Public meeting on the 4th August 2009 Tuesday at Jubilee Hall St Richards Club at 7.30pm we will report all that has taken place.
I would ask as many people to attend this event.
 
So at least we can report to the people of Atherton. 
Out of 22000 we should fill jubilee hall.
 
I hope that all that is taking place that we will have had our say.
 
 
Just for all we had the support of  Norman Bradbury & Bob Splaine at the meeting on Tuesday night.
 
Enclosed Two Docs
 

Building Schools for the Future

Consultation Response

 

Question 1: Should we use BSF to transform schools in the way described?

 

Yes, we should use BSF funds to transform our schools and few could quarrel with the aims as set out in the consultation document.  Unfortunately the plans do not match the aspirations.  The aims have not been used as a yardstick to test the detail of the plans.  The cost of the transformation in terms of the disruption to the education of pupils, the impact on the communities affected and the environment of the borough (particularly in terms of travel and transport congestion) is way too high.

 

For example, Atherton has had a secondary school at the “heart of its community’” for a hundred years or so.  This has meant that the majority of the population has shared a common experience.  Is there a better way to ensure ‘community cohesion’?  Dispersing that majority to schools outside the township will be detrimental to a tight knit community. Over the last thirty years the adults have dispersed to find work elsewhere, following the decline of the major industries in the town. If the High School is closed and a centre is established that serves children from across the whole of the east of the borough, what will be left to hold the community together?  Atherton will become just another dormitory town lacking the heart that is currently its strength.

 

Through the consultation it is necessary to heed the concerns of the people of the town who have demonstrated their opposition to the plans in a public protest.

 

Question 2:  Does our vision describe what we want to achieve?

 

Yes in terms of today’s preoccupations.  It cannot, however be described as  ‘visionary’.  It pays scant attention to what education in thirty years will look like.  For example, do those in charge of education in the future really think that “the latest technology – for example interactive white boards and computers” ( p.2), already widely used in most schools, describes in any way the technology likely to be in use even ten years from now?  The vision is demonstrably limited in relation to technology and is equally limited in considering what is likely to be required of education in the future.

 

Similarly, there is some mention of the need to limit travel in the interests of the environment, yet this concern is ignored in the plans for children in Atherton.

 

Would it not be preferable to invest in what already serves the communities,  replacing or upgrading the buildings rather than destroying schools that serve their communities?

 

Question 3:  Should schools work together to turn our vision into reality?

 

Yes but if schools are to work together why is one school Fred Longworth High School missed out of the Phase 1 plans and any developments for that school deferred to phase 2?  Surely all schools affected by planned changes in an area need to move together, especially since Fred Longworth is the closest school to Hesketh Fletcher, the school that the plan proposes should be closed?  Failure to include plans for Fred Longworth has limited the choice for existing pupils at Hesketh Fletcher and assumed that an 11-16 school of 1500 in Tyldesley is a good thing.

 

Question 4:  Have we considered all the issues that you feel need to be addressed as part of the re-organization?  If not please explain what you think we have missed out.

 

Many of the issues have been identified but have not been fully addressed in the plans.  It would appear that the plans have not been scrutinized sufficiently to show up the inconsistencies that are present in the detail of the proposals.  They seem to smack more of expediency than planning.  Clearly there is a limit to available funding, but these plans do not describe the future convincingly, do not make best use of what is currently available and sell the community of some 28,000 people in Atherton short.  The cost to the community of Atherton through the loss of its High School is too great.

 

One very important issue not addressed is the optimum size for 11-16 schools.  When Fred Longworth had 1350 on role it was more difficult to manage. I500 is too many.  Three schools, each of about a thousand, would be much better than the current proposal. Examination of the school numbers, in relation to plans for the west of the borough, suggests that schools of around 750 are acceptable.  If that is the case in the west then why is this not true for the east?

 

Question 6:  Do you agree that local children should have priority for a place at a local school?

 

For secondary school pupils of Atherton township this question is a vexed one, since they will not have a “local secondary school” but will be on the periphery of the all the others.  If, for example, they are given preference for places at Fred Longworth, as the nearest school, what will then happen to children in Mosley Common? This has been a difficult issue for many years and the plans do not address it.

.

There does not appear to be much room for an increase in numbers in the area.  Considering the amount of building in and around Atherton and the need to add classrooms to some local primaries, this would seem to be an important consideration. 

 

Question 7:  Do you think admission arrangements would be easier to understand if each denominational school had a defined catchment area?

 

This is not the biggest problem that the plans for the future need to consider particularly in the Atherton area.  The plans will result in the closure of the only CE secondary school in the east of the borough.

 

Question 8:  What are your views on our proposal to establish two 14-19 Centres to deliver Diplomas and post-16 courses?

 

There are two surprising features of these proposals.  The first is the absence of any reference to the local colleges.  What will their role be in the education of 14-16 year olds in the east of the borough?  This is not at all clear.  The professional experience of teaching this age group and delivering vocational courses lies in the tertiary sector but the colleges do not seem to figure in these plans.

 

There has been considerable investment in Leigh’s new 6th form centre but this is not considered. 

 

The second surprising feature is the way the plans seem to ignore the “home grown” developments of skill centres that stemmed from the need to address the lack of appropriate vocational education for some young people.  These centres, deliberately located in industrial premises, have been largely ignored.  Would it not have been better to learn from the experiences of setting up these centres and successfully seeking employer support?  It is interesting that the idea of a company limited by guarantee to run the proposed centres has been borrowed from these developments while in other respects they have been ignored.

 

Currently there is so little flesh on the bones of the proposals for the skills centres that it is difficult to have much opinion of this part of the plan.  The problem is that in order to establish the centres two schools have to be closed –and for a pipe dream?   

 

Question 9:  What do you think about the idea of the two area based trusts?

 

At the time of writing this idea seems to have been abandoned for lack of support.

 

Question 10:  What are your views on community schools becoming foundation School?

 

As for Question 9., this idea too seems to have found little support. Any school with inherent problems in their building, such as acres of flat roofs, would be mad to support this notion.

 

Of course, if all schools became foundation schools, it would play havoc with the LA’s admissions procedures.

 

 

Question 11:  Overall do you think our proposals will help to develop secondary education to meet the needs and challenges of the 21st Century?

 

NO.  For all the reasons detailed in the answers to the questions above these plans fail to convince, in spite of the glossy publication.  They are expedient rather than visionary. They fail to meet the needs and challenges of the future and if implemented will be very costly for the communities that the borough is supposed to serve.  Considering the strong public opposition to the proposals pushing through this plan could be politically disastrous, particularly at a time when the government is urging politicians to connect with the people.

 

 

Other Questions.

 

  1. Do you think that the document clearly explains why we are proposing to discontinue Hesketh Fletcher CE and enlarge Westleigh High school?  Please tell us what your concerns are.

 

The major reasons stated suggest that there is little support for a secondary school in Atherton since numbers of first choice preferences are low and GCSE results disappointing.  The numbers are low for two reasons.  The threat of closure was made public long before the choice of Secondary school was made.  Consequently parents chose a school where the education of their child would not be interrupted.  Secondly local parents naturally put Fred Longworth as first choice hoping to secure a place at a more successful school falling back on Westleigh when the option of Fred Longworth was denied.

 

Scrutiny of the examination data for Hesketh Fletcher, over the last five years, reveals interesting information.  There is little consistency year on year in overall success as measured by 5 GCSEs A-A*,  32% in 2005, 50% in 2007. There seems to have been some improvement.   One consistent feature is the poor performance in Maths and English.  The LA must have identified this problem so surely it should have been tackled.  Why was Manchester Challenge only involved when the school was chosen for closure?  It would appear that Westleigh High School received funding at an earlier stage.

 

It would also appear that Hesketh Fletcher had a considerably lower budget than other local secondary schools.  It was late receiving specialist status.  Unlike all the other local schools it has not received any Excellence Cluster funding or support.  There must have been difficulty in finding the necessary resources to bring about the required step change while other schools forged ahead.   External advisory support is only partially effective.  Additional staff based in the school, albeit requiring large sums of additional school funding, is more valuable in raising levels of pupil attainment.  It would therefore seem more sensible to have addressed these problems rather than close the school.

 

  1. Do you support the proposal to discontinue Hesketh Fletcher and offer alternative places at Bedford, Westleigh and Fred Longworth High Schools?

 

 NO.  There are no places at Fred Longworth High School and never were. It was misleading to include this possibility in the plan.  Travel considerations for young pupils have been given little attention. 

_____________

 

 

I have deliberately not filled in the questionnaire format provided in the document since it seems to have been designed to generate a positive result from any analysis of the responses.  This methodology is typical of the way the consultation has been conducted.

 

One puzzle remains – how can a ‘drop-in session’ require an appointment?

 

One glaring omission from the questions has been any attempt to ask for an evaluation of the consultation process, which in many ways has been seriously flawed.  The local people do not trust the Local Authority, do not trust their local councillor who has failed to support them and feel that this is just another example of being dictated to.

 

 

Please Print off as many as you want an ask people to sign please hand in say 29th July 2009.

Please find the doc enclosed.

 

 

 

Name

Address

Sign

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@...

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#216 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher
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Date: 25/06/2009 21:11:03
Subject: ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher
 
HI All
 
ARA Meeting Re Hesketh Fletcher,
 
20 People turned up to discus that very subject.
 
There is another meeting with Andy Burham Friday 6pm at the cricket club. (Sorry I am working)
 
There was a great deal of discussion in fact for 2 hours.(7pm -9pm)
 
The next meet of the ARA will be 29th July 2009 Tuesday at (Hesketh Manor) 7pm upon we will find a representation to go to
Wigan on the 30th to be present at the meeting in the Town Hall 3pm.
 
Then at the Public meeting on the 4th August 2009 Tuesday at Jubilee Hall St Richards Club at 7.30pm we will report all that has taken place.
I would ask as many people to attend this event.
 
So at least we can report to the people of Atherton. 
Out of 22000 we should fill jubilee hall.
 
I hope that all that is taking place that we will have had our say.
 
 
Just for all we had the support of  Norman Bradbury & Bob Splaine at the meeting on Tuesday night.
 
Enclosed Two Docs
 

Building Schools for the Future

Consultation Response

 

Question 1: Should we use BSF to transform schools in the way described?

 

Yes, we should use BSF funds to transform our schools and few could quarrel with the aims as set out in the consultation document.  Unfortunately the plans do not match the aspirations.  The aims have not been used as a yardstick to test the detail of the plans.  The cost of the transformation in terms of the disruption to the education of pupils, the impact on the communities affected and the environment of the borough (particularly in terms of travel and transport congestion) is way too high.

 

For example, Atherton has had a secondary school at the “heart of its community’” for a hundred years or so.  This has meant that the majority of the population has shared a common experience.  Is there a better way to ensure ‘community cohesion’?  Dispersing that majority to schools outside the township will be detrimental to a tight knit community. Over the last thirty years the adults have dispersed to find work elsewhere, following the decline of the major industries in the town. If the High School is closed and a centre is established that serves children from across the whole of the east of the borough, what will be left to hold the community together?  Atherton will become just another dormitory town lacking the heart that is currently its strength.

 

Through the consultation it is necessary to heed the concerns of the people of the town who have demonstrated their opposition to the plans in a public protest.

 

Question 2:  Does our vision describe what we want to achieve?

 

Yes in terms of today’s preoccupations.  It cannot, however be described as  ‘visionary’.  It pays scant attention to what education in thirty years will look like.  For example, do those in charge of education in the future really think that “the latest technology – for example interactive white boards and computers” ( p.2), already widely used in most schools, describes in any way the technology likely to be in use even ten years from now?  The vision is demonstrably limited in relation to technology and is equally limited in considering what is likely to be required of education in the future.

 

Similarly, there is some mention of the need to limit travel in the interests of the environment, yet this concern is ignored in the plans for children in Atherton.

 

Would it not be preferable to invest in what already serves the communities,  replacing or upgrading the buildings rather than destroying schools that serve their communities?

 

Question 3:  Should schools work together to turn our vision into reality?

 

Yes but if schools are to work together why is one school Fred Longworth High School missed out of the Phase 1 plans and any developments for that school deferred to phase 2?  Surely all schools affected by planned changes in an area need to move together, especially since Fred Longworth is the closest school to Hesketh Fletcher, the school that the plan proposes should be closed?  Failure to include plans for Fred Longworth has limited the choice for existing pupils at Hesketh Fletcher and assumed that an 11-16 school of 1500 in Tyldesley is a good thing.

 

Question 4:  Have we considered all the issues that you feel need to be addressed as part of the re-organization?  If not please explain what you think we have missed out.

 

Many of the issues have been identified but have not been fully addressed in the plans.  It would appear that the plans have not been scrutinized sufficiently to show up the inconsistencies that are present in the detail of the proposals.  They seem to smack more of expediency than planning.  Clearly there is a limit to available funding, but these plans do not describe the future convincingly, do not make best use of what is currently available and sell the community of some 28,000 people in Atherton short.  The cost to the community of Atherton through the loss of its High School is too great.

 

One very important issue not addressed is the optimum size for 11-16 schools.  When Fred Longworth had 1350 on role it was more difficult to manage. I500 is too many.  Three schools, each of about a thousand, would be much better than the current proposal. Examination of the school numbers, in relation to plans for the west of the borough, suggests that schools of around 750 are acceptable.  If that is the case in the west then why is this not true for the east?

 

Question 6:  Do you agree that local children should have priority for a place at a local school?

 

For secondary school pupils of Atherton township this question is a vexed one, since they will not have a “local secondary school” but will be on the periphery of the all the others.  If, for example, they are given preference for places at Fred Longworth, as the nearest school, what will then happen to children in Mosley Common? This has been a difficult issue for many years and the plans do not address it.

.

There does not appear to be much room for an increase in numbers in the area.  Considering the amount of building in and around Atherton and the need to add classrooms to some local primaries, this would seem to be an important consideration. 

 

Question 7:  Do you think admission arrangements would be easier to understand if each denominational school had a defined catchment area?

 

This is not the biggest problem that the plans for the future need to consider particularly in the Atherton area.  The plans will result in the closure of the only CE secondary school in the east of the borough.

 

Question 8:  What are your views on our proposal to establish two 14-19 Centres to deliver Diplomas and post-16 courses?

 

There are two surprising features of these proposals.  The first is the absence of any reference to the local colleges.  What will their role be in the education of 14-16 year olds in the east of the borough?  This is not at all clear.  The professional experience of teaching this age group and delivering vocational courses lies in the tertiary sector but the colleges do not seem to figure in these plans.

 

There has been considerable investment in Leigh’s new 6th form centre but this is not considered. 

 

The second surprising feature is the way the plans seem to ignore the “home grown” developments of skill centres that stemmed from the need to address the lack of appropriate vocational education for some young people.  These centres, deliberately located in industrial premises, have been largely ignored.  Would it not have been better to learn from the experiences of setting up these centres and successfully seeking employer support?  It is interesting that the idea of a company limited by guarantee to run the proposed centres has been borrowed from these developments while in other respects they have been ignored.

 

Currently there is so little flesh on the bones of the proposals for the skills centres that it is difficult to have much opinion of this part of the plan.  The problem is that in order to establish the centres two schools have to be closed –and for a pipe dream?   

 

Question 9:  What do you think about the idea of the two area based trusts?

 

At the time of writing this idea seems to have been abandoned for lack of support.

 

Question 10:  What are your views on community schools becoming foundation School?

 

As for Question 9., this idea too seems to have found little support. Any school with inherent problems in their building, such as acres of flat roofs, would be mad to support this notion.

 

Of course, if all schools became foundation schools, it would play havoc with the LA’s admissions procedures.

 

 

Question 11:  Overall do you think our proposals will help to develop secondary education to meet the needs and challenges of the 21st Century?

 

NO.  For all the reasons detailed in the answers to the questions above these plans fail to convince, in spite of the glossy publication.  They are expedient rather than visionary. They fail to meet the needs and challenges of the future and if implemented will be very costly for the communities that the borough is supposed to serve.  Considering the strong public opposition to the proposals pushing through this plan could be politically disastrous, particularly at a time when the government is urging politicians to connect with the people.

 

 

Other Questions.

 

  1. Do you think that the document clearly explains why we are proposing to discontinue Hesketh Fletcher CE and enlarge Westleigh High school?  Please tell us what your concerns are.

 

The major reasons stated suggest that there is little support for a secondary school in Atherton since numbers of first choice preferences are low and GCSE results disappointing.  The numbers are low for two reasons.  The threat of closure was made public long before the choice of Secondary school was made.  Consequently parents chose a school where the education of their child would not be interrupted.  Secondly local parents naturally put Fred Longworth as first choice hoping to secure a place at a more successful school falling back on Westleigh when the option of Fred Longworth was denied.

 

Scrutiny of the examination data for Hesketh Fletcher, over the last five years, reveals interesting information.  There is little consistency year on year in overall success as measured by 5 GCSEs A-A*,  32% in 2005, 50% in 2007. There seems to have been some improvement.   One consistent feature is the poor performance in Maths and English.  The LA must have identified this problem so surely it should have been tackled.  Why was Manchester Challenge only involved when the school was chosen for closure?  It would appear that Westleigh High School received funding at an earlier stage.

 

It would also appear that Hesketh Fletcher had a considerably lower budget than other local secondary schools.  It was late receiving specialist status.  Unlike all the other local schools it has not received any Excellence Cluster funding or support.  There must have been difficulty in finding the necessary resources to bring about the required step change while other schools forged ahead.   External advisory support is only partially effective.  Additional staff based in the school, albeit requiring large sums of additional school funding, is more valuable in raising levels of pupil attainment.  It would therefore seem more sensible to have addressed these problems rather than close the school.

 

  1. Do you support the proposal to discontinue Hesketh Fletcher and offer alternative places at Bedford, Westleigh and Fred Longworth High Schools?

 

 NO.  There are no places at Fred Longworth High School and never were. It was misleading to include this possibility in the plan.  Travel considerations for young pupils have been given little attention. 

_____________

 

 

I have deliberately not filled in the questionnaire format provided in the document since it seems to have been designed to generate a positive result from any analysis of the responses.  This methodology is typical of the way the consultation has been conducted.

 

One puzzle remains – how can a ‘drop-in session’ require an appointment?

 

One glaring omission from the questions has been any attempt to ask for an evaluation of the consultation process, which in many ways has been seriously flawed.  The local people do not trust the Local Authority, do not trust their local councillor who has failed to support them and feel that this is just another example of being dictated to.

 

 

Please Print off as many as you want an ask people to sign please hand in say 29th July 2009.

Please find the doc enclosed.

 

 

 

Name

Address

Sign

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Association
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@...

#215 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
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Please note due to restricted room if you wish to attend as a invited Guest please drop me a E-Mail and I will then invite you along.
Last Chance to state any comments are Friday 26th June 2009.
If  you are interested in making your feelings known then you should write to Janet Newton by E-Mail schoolsforfuture@...
Or in pen and paper to:
Wigan council,cyps school Placement Commissioning Team, Progress House Westwood Park Drive, Wigan WN3 4HH
 
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Next Committee Meeting
23th June 2009009 Hesketh Manor Market Street ATHERTON
This meeting will be open to all invited Guest and will concentrate solely on Hesketh Fletcher School.
Please note due to restricted room if you wish to attend as a invited Guest please drop me a E-Mail and I will then invite you along.
In the mean time should you wish more information please go to www.wigan.gov.uk/services/educationallearning/schools/schoolfuture
This will take you to the consultation document. 
 
If  you are interested in making your feelings known then you should write to Janet Newton by E-Mail schoolsforfuture@...
Or in pen and paper to:
Wigan council,cyps school Placement Commissioning Team, Progress House Westwood Park Drive, Wigan WN3 4HH
 
 
This effects all Atherton Residents.
 
Our next public meeting in August would be to late to address your feelings on this matter however it will be discussed at the meeting for public on the 4th August 2009 at jubilee Hall / St Richards Club.
All Residents may attend this meeting and are very welcome.
 
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Next public Event
 
 
[Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
Hi All
Committee Meeting.
23th June 2009Tuesday please try to attend.
 
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7.30pm.
 
 
4th August 2009.
6th October 2009.
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Due To attendance has change to Tuesdays .
Next Meeting Committee
 
23th June 2009
28th July 2009
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
Yours sincerely
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2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@tiscali.co.uk
 



 
 
 
 
 

#212 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Fri Jun 5, 2009 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Atherton Residents Association] Re: Document Handed to me about Hesketh Fletcher Proposed School Closure
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I just received this addition to my E-Mail on the subject of Hesketh Fletcher School.
 
Latest news on school closure
 
It seems that the land on which Hesketh Fletcher is built is under a Covenant from Lilford Estates that states that it can only be used for educational purposes. If the school closes it cannot be used for anything else. Of course Covenants can be broken and legally disbanded but this could take some time which makes it even more unacceptable that the school should close. What a waste of such a valuable resource!
 
 
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Date: 04/06/2009 18:30:59
Subject: [Atherton Residents Association] Re: Document Handed to me about Hesketh Fletcher Proposed School Closure
 
Hi All

Document Handed to me about Hesketh Fletcher Proposed School Closure.

 

 

Hesketh Fletcher Proposed School Closure

 

Reasons For (According to the Local Authority):

 

  • Falling Numbers on Roll for the past three years rumours have caused uneasiness in local primary schools after a series of meetings were held that gave possible options for the future of education in Atherton. Even then one of the proposals out of a possible seven was to close Hesketh Fletcher so what happened to the other six possibilities? Falling results cannot be the main reason for this shift away from sending local pupils to the local school. Our results have risen year on year overall and even last year were better than Westleighs in every area except the 5 A C with English and math's. The real reason for the falling numbers has been the lack of support from the LA and some feeder schools.

Parents cannot be blamed if they do not send their children to a school that could close if those pupils have to move schools at a crucial point in their education.

  • Perceived Image there has been a general belief that our pupils are ill-mannered and badly behaved because of the access to the town at lunchtime but this has been addressed, all pupils remain in school during a severely shortened lunchtime. Now local people and shop owners are praising our young people for the way in which they behave and there has been no trouble in the town centre at lunchtime for at least two years.

Some officers of the LA have suggested at the consultation meetings that the standards of education at the school were putting parents off but all our young people leave school with qualifications including NVQs and Vocational Qualifications that are necessary in the work place. We do not just concentrate on the gifted and talented although we have a programme in place to stretch them fully.

In addition three members of staff gained AST (Advanced Skills Teacher) status whilst at the school, another was nationally recognized by the RSC as an outstanding teacher of Shakespeare and another has gone on to deliver Early Intervention Strategies in failing schools in another LA. They did not suddenly become all of this when they left the school, they were excellent teachers whilst here.

Hesketh Fletcher is the only school in the area that teaches AS English and RE to year 11 pupils with a 90% + pass rate at grade C and above.

  • Financial Necessity The LA needs to reduce the number of secondary school places but this does not mean automatically closing a school. The LA should have addressed this problem three years ago by creating catchment areas to service all three schools in the area. This is one of the proposals in their BSF brochure and could still be applied to Hesketh Fletcher. Unfortunately political parties do not want to be seen closing the school as it serves their voters and so natural wastage has been encouraged. The LA can now say that this is the best solution to their problem.

The focus now is on bigger schools. However, there is no reason to believe that these are more successful, on the contrary they concentrate problems in one place which can be detrimental to the overall effectiveness of a school. Why not have three schools of equal size with a local feel to them?

 

Reasons Against:

 

  • Removal of a Valuable Local Resource - Hesketh Fletcher High School provides access for all within walking distance of all parts of Atherton. Fred Longworth can be reached on foot but this school is in the second phase of BSF and will not have places available until 2012 at the earliest but more probably 2014. Fred Longworth is not even in the consultation process although Westleigh is which suggests that only Westleigh or Bedford will be available to Atherton children.

     Children going to these schools will need to catch at least one bus

     At a cost of 8 per week or two buses to Bedford at a cost of 16

     Per week per child. When this proposal was eventually brought out

     Into the open it was suggested by local councilors that free

     Transport could be made available but now parents are being told

     That there will be no funding for this. Is this just another example

     Of how they have been misled?

  • Undermining Community Life If schools are the heart of the community as the BSF brochure repeatedly says then where will Athertons heart be? In Tyldesley, Westleigh or Bedford or all of these? That is where our children will be and that is where their parents will be asked to travel to for parents evenings, school events and to pick up sick children. If people do not have their own transport how can they easily access the resource that the LA says will be at the heart of their community?
  • Denying Local People Choices If Fred Longworth and Westleigh are oversubscribed how can they offer places before 2012? This means that parents who do not wish to see their childs education disrupted at the end of year 9 will have to send them to Bedford or Hindley, no choice! There is also the possibility that Westhoughton High School will look to offering  places to our children, again another transport cost, and I have anecdotal evidence that at least one parent was told to send her child to Standish and not Hesketh Fletcher. Another submitted two

Application forms for Hesketh Fletcher only to be told that they

had been lost and was then advised to look for a place elsewhere.

     Parents considering moving to allow them to send their children to

     Saint Marys could be left high and dry because the admittance

     criteria for Catholic schools places children of other faiths/no faith

     right at the bottom of their lists. There is already disruption at primary

    level and secondary education is becoming a post-code lottery for many

    parents.

          Why should parents have their children change schools at the end

          of year 9 with the cost of a new uniform and transport? Why

          should young people of 14 have to cope with a new environment, new 

          staff, new friends and the extra time spent travelling in addition to

          the pressures of GCSEs?

  • Local Support this is growing within the local community as parents begin to understand that they are not being treated fairly and that their views are being ignored just as the views of the staff at their consultation were ignored because they were denied the time to express their views and ask their questions. They were given an hour to consult with the LA and half of that time was taken up with a presentation. The Governors consultation will also be an hour. How much can be openly raised and discussed within that time?

Fred Longworth School, parents, pupils and governors are supporting our wish to remain the community school at the heart of Atherton. They do not want the proposed expansion as they are drastically short of space already. They also feel that the township of Atherton deserves its own school.

 

Concerns:

 

  • The lack of effort by some local councillors in support of the school
  • False impressions being given of the school and not being addressed within the local community
  • The speed of the consultation process and lack of in-depth discussion
  • The biased nature and the inconsistencies within the brochure produced to explain the thinking behind BSF
  • The fact that the LA officer responsible for seeing BSF through the council process is also in charge of the consultation and will be writing the report
  • The fact that the report will be written before the schools results are out in August
  • The fact that the improvement in the schools results was not part of the information in the brochure
  • The lack of investment in the school over the years. Hesketh Fletcher did not receive any funding under either the Coalfield Challenge or the Education Action Zone initiatives to improve local schools whilst both Westleigh and Bedford did yet the school has continued to improve.

 

Missed Opportunities;

 

At the last Directors Briefing for Chairs of Governing Bodies we were told that the LA is looking to devolve centralised services to 5 local areas, including Social Services, Welfare, Health and Housing, to make them more accessible to people of all ages. Hesketh Fletcher could be one such centre but if the school closes and the heart of our community is elsewhere how will parents, families and the elderly access these services easily? Not everyone has a car or can afford the bus fares.

Hesketh Fletcher is literally the only school at this side of the Borough that has room to expand. It is this aspect of the move to closure that is so attractive to the LA and Manchester Diocese. The site is prime building land with a lovely aspect over the Forestry Commission land; it is worth more to the LA and the Diocese to have the site unoccupied. Hundreds of houses could be built there. The question is where will the children in these houses go to school? One local primary is moving to change its admission number to two form entry as from next year. Will the LA need to expand Fred Longworth and Westleigh even more as these numbers percolate through to secondary level.

 

For a copy of the consultation document please ring 01942 486028/29 or write to Wigan Council, CYPS, School Placement Commissioning Team, Progress House, Westwood Park Drive, Wigan, WN3 4HH

 

You can also find this document at libraries, town halls and early years establishments and it is also available on the Wigan Council Web site at:

www.wigan.gov.uk/Services/EducationLearning/Schools/SchoolsFuture 

 

If you are interested in making your feelings known then you should write to Janet Newton at the above address or send an email to schoolsforfuture@wigan.gov.uk by June 26th or your views will not be counted.

 

It is important that everyone has their say.
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Yahoo Group
 

#211 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: Document Handed to me about Hesketh Fletcher Proposed School Closure
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Hi All

Document Handed to me about Hesketh Fletcher Proposed School Closure.

 

 

Hesketh Fletcher Proposed School Closure

 

Reasons For (According to the Local Authority):

 

  • Falling Numbers on Roll for the past three years rumours have caused uneasiness in local primary schools after a series of meetings were held that gave possible options for the future of education in Atherton. Even then one of the proposals out of a possible seven was to close Hesketh Fletcher so what happened to the other six possibilities? Falling results cannot be the main reason for this shift away from sending local pupils to the local school. Our results have risen year on year overall and even last year were better than Westleighs in every area except the 5 A C with English and math's. The real reason for the falling numbers has been the lack of support from the LA and some feeder schools.

Parents cannot be blamed if they do not send their children to a school that could close if those pupils have to move schools at a crucial point in their education.

  • Perceived Image there has been a general belief that our pupils are ill-mannered and badly behaved because of the access to the town at lunchtime but this has been addressed, all pupils remain in school during a severely shortened lunchtime. Now local people and shop owners are praising our young people for the way in which they behave and there has been no trouble in the town centre at lunchtime for at least two years.

Some officers of the LA have suggested at the consultation meetings that the standards of education at the school were putting parents off but all our young people leave school with qualifications including NVQs and Vocational Qualifications that are necessary in the work place. We do not just concentrate on the gifted and talented although we have a programme in place to stretch them fully.

In addition three members of staff gained AST (Advanced Skills Teacher) status whilst at the school, another was nationally recognized by the RSC as an outstanding teacher of Shakespeare and another has gone on to deliver Early Intervention Strategies in failing schools in another LA. They did not suddenly become all of this when they left the school, they were excellent teachers whilst here.

Hesketh Fletcher is the only school in the area that teaches AS English and RE to year 11 pupils with a 90% + pass rate at grade C and above.

  • Financial Necessity The LA needs to reduce the number of secondary school places but this does not mean automatically closing a school. The LA should have addressed this problem three years ago by creating catchment areas to service all three schools in the area. This is one of the proposals in their BSF brochure and could still be applied to Hesketh Fletcher. Unfortunately political parties do not want to be seen closing the school as it serves their voters and so natural wastage has been encouraged. The LA can now say that this is the best solution to their problem.

The focus now is on bigger schools. However, there is no reason to believe that these are more successful, on the contrary they concentrate problems in one place which can be detrimental to the overall effectiveness of a school. Why not have three schools of equal size with a local feel to them?

 

Reasons Against:

 

  • Removal of a Valuable Local Resource - Hesketh Fletcher High School provides access for all within walking distance of all parts of Atherton. Fred Longworth can be reached on foot but this school is in the second phase of BSF and will not have places available until 2012 at the earliest but more probably 2014. Fred Longworth is not even in the consultation process although Westleigh is which suggests that only Westleigh or Bedford will be available to Atherton children.

     Children going to these schools will need to catch at least one bus

     At a cost of 8 per week or two buses to Bedford at a cost of 16

     Per week per child. When this proposal was eventually brought out

     Into the open it was suggested by local councilors that free

     Transport could be made available but now parents are being told

     That there will be no funding for this. Is this just another example

     Of how they have been misled?

  • Undermining Community Life If schools are the heart of the community as the BSF brochure repeatedly says then where will Athertons heart be? In Tyldesley, Westleigh or Bedford or all of these? That is where our children will be and that is where their parents will be asked to travel to for parents evenings, school events and to pick up sick children. If people do not have their own transport how can they easily access the resource that the LA says will be at the heart of their community?
  • Denying Local People Choices If Fred Longworth and Westleigh are oversubscribed how can they offer places before 2012? This means that parents who do not wish to see their childs education disrupted at the end of year 9 will have to send them to Bedford or Hindley, no choice! There is also the possibility that Westhoughton High School will look to offering  places to our children, again another transport cost, and I have anecdotal evidence that at least one parent was told to send her child to Standish and not Hesketh Fletcher. Another submitted two

Application forms for Hesketh Fletcher only to be told that they

had been lost and was then advised to look for a place elsewhere.

     Parents considering moving to allow them to send their children to

     Saint Marys could be left high and dry because the admittance

     criteria for Catholic schools places children of other faiths/no faith

     right at the bottom of their lists. There is already disruption at primary

    level and secondary education is becoming a post-code lottery for many

    parents.

          Why should parents have their children change schools at the end

          of year 9 with the cost of a new uniform and transport? Why

          should young people of 14 have to cope with a new environment, new 

          staff, new friends and the extra time spent travelling in addition to

          the pressures of GCSEs?

  • Local Support this is growing within the local community as parents begin to understand that they are not being treated fairly and that their views are being ignored just as the views of the staff at their consultation were ignored because they were denied the time to express their views and ask their questions. They were given an hour to consult with the LA and half of that time was taken up with a presentation. The Governors consultation will also be an hour. How much can be openly raised and discussed within that time?

Fred Longworth School, parents, pupils and governors are supporting our wish to remain the community school at the heart of Atherton. They do not want the proposed expansion as they are drastically short of space already. They also feel that the township of Atherton deserves its own school.

 

Concerns:

 

  • The lack of effort by some local councillors in support of the school
  • False impressions being given of the school and not being addressed within the local community
  • The speed of the consultation process and lack of in-depth discussion
  • The biased nature and the inconsistencies within the brochure produced to explain the thinking behind BSF
  • The fact that the LA officer responsible for seeing BSF through the council process is also in charge of the consultation and will be writing the report
  • The fact that the report will be written before the schools results are out in August
  • The fact that the improvement in the schools results was not part of the information in the brochure
  • The lack of investment in the school over the years. Hesketh Fletcher did not receive any funding under either the Coalfield Challenge or the Education Action Zone initiatives to improve local schools whilst both Westleigh and Bedford did yet the school has continued to improve.

 

Missed Opportunities;

 

At the last Directors Briefing for Chairs of Governing Bodies we were told that the LA is looking to devolve centralised services to 5 local areas, including Social Services, Welfare, Health and Housing, to make them more accessible to people of all ages. Hesketh Fletcher could be one such centre but if the school closes and the heart of our community is elsewhere how will parents, families and the elderly access these services easily? Not everyone has a car or can afford the bus fares.

Hesketh Fletcher is literally the only school at this side of the Borough that has room to expand. It is this aspect of the move to closure that is so attractive to the LA and Manchester Diocese. The site is prime building land with a lovely aspect over the Forestry Commission land; it is worth more to the LA and the Diocese to have the site unoccupied. Hundreds of houses could be built there. The question is where will the children in these houses go to school? One local primary is moving to change its admission number to two form entry as from next year. Will the LA need to expand Fred Longworth and Westleigh even more as these numbers percolate through to secondary level.

 

For a copy of the consultation document please ring 01942 486028/29 or write to Wigan Council, CYPS, School Placement Commissioning Team, Progress House, Westwood Park Drive, Wigan, WN3 4HH

 

You can also find this document at libraries, town halls and early years establishments and it is also available on the Wigan Council Web site at:

www.wigan.gov.uk/Services/EducationLearning/Schools/SchoolsFuture 

 

If you are interested in making your feelings known then you should write to Janet Newton at the above address or send an email to schoolsforfuture@... by June 26th or your views will not be counted.

 

It is important that everyone has their say.
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Yahoo Group

#210 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: [atherton] Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
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Hi All
This is a direct like to document.
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 03/06/2009 15:59:20
Subject: [atherton] Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
 
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association.
 
Next Committee Meeting
23th June 2009009 Hesketh Manor Market Street ATHERTON
This meeting will be open to all invited Guest and will concentrate solely
on Hesketh Fletcher School.
Please note due to restricted room if you wish to attend as a invited Guest
please drop me a E-Mail and I will then invite you along.
In the mean time should you wish more information please go to www.wigan.gov
uk/services/educationallearning/schools/schoolfuture
This will take you to the consultation document.
 
If  you are interested in making your feelings known then you should write
to Janet Newton by E-Mail schoolsforfuture@...
Or in pen and paper to:
Wigan council,cyps school Placement Commissioning Team, Progress House
Westwood Park Drive, Wigan WN3 4HH
 
 
This effects all Atherton Residents.
 
Our next public meeting in August would be to late to address your feelings
on this matter however it will be discussed at the meeting for public on the
4th August 2009 at jubilee Hall / St Richards Club.
All Residents may attend this meeting and are very welcome.
 
Subject: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
 
Next public Event
 
 
[Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
Hi All
Committee Meeting.
23th June 2009Tuesday please try to attend.
 
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7
30pm.
 
 
4th August 2009.
6th October 2009.
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Due To attendance has change to Tuesdays .
Next Meeting Committee
 
23th June 2009
28th July 2009
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Assoiation
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Date: Wed Jun 3, 2009 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
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Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association.
 
Next Committee Meeting
23th June 2009009 Hesketh Manor Market Street ATHERTON
This meeting will be open to all invited Guest and will concentrate solely on Hesketh Fletcher School.
Please note due to restricted room if you wish to attend as a invited Guest please drop me a E-Mail and I will then invite you along.
In the mean time should you wish more information please go to www.wigan.gov.uk/services/educationallearning/schools/schoolfuture
This will take you to the consultation document. 
 
If  you are interested in making your feelings known then you should write to Janet Newton by E-Mail schoolsforfuture@...
Or in pen and paper to:
Wigan council,cyps school Placement Commissioning Team, Progress House Westwood Park Drive, Wigan WN3 4HH
 
 
This effects all Atherton Residents.
 
Our next public meeting in August would be to late to address your feelings on this matter however it will be discussed at the meeting for public on the 4th August 2009 at jubilee Hall / St Richards Club.
All Residents may attend this meeting and are very welcome.
 
Subject: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
 
Next public Event
 
 
[Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
Hi All
Committee Meeting.
23th June 2009Tuesday please try to attend.
 
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7.30pm.
 
 
4th August 2009.
6th October 2009.
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Due To attendance has change to Tuesdays .
Next Meeting Committee
 
23th June 2009
28th July 2009
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Assoiation
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@tiscali.co.uk
 



 
 
 
 

#208 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Tue May 26, 2009 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
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Next Meeting Committee
26th May 2009 Hesketh Manor
Today.
 
 
 
Subject: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
 
Next public Event
2nd June 2009
 
[Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
Hi All
Committee Meeting
This Coming Tuesday please try to attend.
 
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7.30pm.
 
 
2nd June 2009.
4th August 2009.
6th October 2009.
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Due To attendance has change to Tuesdays .
Next Meeting Committee
26th May 2009
23th June 2009
28th July 2009
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Assoiation
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@tiscali.co.uk
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 24/04/2009 08:25:14
Subject: Atherton Resident Association
 

Dear Alan

I hope that this e-mail finds you well. I know that you kindly sent me a list of dates for the future Atherton Residents Association Meetings and the Committee Meetings back in February but I  deleted it by mistake as my mailbox needed a clear out, sorry about this please would you therefore be able to send me the list again, I may have someone who is interesting in attending to raise an issue the I can let them know which is the meeting open to the public that they can attend meeting. Also there is an event coming up in Atherton in on June 03rd at Formby Hall that I would be grateful if you could put on your website.  I have attached the poster for your information.

I shall look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards
Andrea

Andrea Pugh
Health and Wellbeing Co-ordinator

Wigan and Leigh Housing
Atherton House
Car Bank Square
Atherton
Wigan
M46 9WH

Tel: 01942 882732
Mobile: 07833047687



>>Corporate Disclaimer<<
Wigan and Leigh Housing Company Limited is a company limited by guarantee registered in England and Wales
No. 4395696
Registered Office: Unity House, Westwood Park Drive, Wigan WN3 4HE
 
 
 

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#206 From: athertonresidentsassociation@...
Date: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:59 pm
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#205 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:43 pm
Subject: Fw: Re: Atherton Resident Association
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Next public Event
2nd June 2009
 
[Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
Hi All
Committee Meeting
This Coming Tuesday please try to attend.
 
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7.30pm.
 
 
2nd June 2009.
4th August 2009.
6th October 2009.
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Due To attendance has change to Tuesdays .
Next Meeting Committee
28th April 2009
26th May 2009
23th June 2009
28th July 2009
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Assoiation
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@tiscali.co.uk
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 24/04/2009 08:25:14
Subject: Atherton Resident Association
 

Dear Alan

I hope that this e-mail finds you well. I know that you kindly sent me a list of dates for the future Atherton Residents Association Meetings and the Committee Meetings back in February but I  deleted it by mistake as my mailbox needed a clear out, sorry about this please would you therefore be able to send me the list again, I may have someone who is interesting in attending to raise an issue the I can let them know which is the meeting open to the public that they can attend meeting. Also there is an event coming up in Atherton in on June 03rd at Formby Hall that I would be grateful if you could put on your website.  I have attached the poster for your information.

I shall look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards
Andrea

Andrea Pugh
Health and Wellbeing Co-ordinator

Wigan and Leigh Housing
Atherton House
Car Bank Square
Atherton
Wigan
M46 9WH

Tel: 01942 882732
Mobile: 07833047687



>>Corporate Disclaimer<<
Wigan and Leigh Housing Company Limited is a company limited by guarantee registered in England and Wales
No. 4395696
Registered Office: Unity House, Westwood Park Drive, Wigan WN3 4HE
 
 

#204 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:09 pm
Subject: Formby Hall
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Join us for a

Multicultural afternoon of

1pm to 4pm

Wednesday 3rd June 2009

Formby Hall Alder Street

Free Admission 

Entertainment

Bingo

Raffle

Free refreshments

Information and advice on services for the

Over 50s

How to get there:

From Wigan/ Hindley: 32 and 132

From Leigh: 12 and 582

From Tyldesley: 12,32,132,685 and 686

Ring and Ride enquiries: 01942 492252


#203 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:34 am
Subject: Re: [hagfold] Re: [Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
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[Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
Hi All
AGM
This Coming Tuesday please try to attend.
If not please send any issues by E-Mail to myself thank you.
AGM 7th April 2009.
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7.30pm.
 
7th April 2009.
2nd June 2009.
4th August 2009.
6th October 2009.
1st December 2008.
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Due To attendance has change to Tuesdays .
Next Meeting Committee
28th April 2009
26th May 2009
23th June 2009
28th July 2009
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Assoiation
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@tiscali.co.uk
 
 
 
 
 
 

#202 From: "alanbirtles@..." <alanbirtles@...>
Date: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: [hagfold] Re: [Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
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Hi All
Committeee Meeting
Hesketh Manor Tuesday 7pm 24th March 2009.
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 01/03/2009 17:34:38
Subject: Re: [hagfold] Re: [Atherton Residents Association] ARA General Meetings jubilee Hall.
 
Hi All
 
ARA General Meetings Jubilee Hall All First Tuesday Every Two Months time 7.30pm.
 
7th April 2009
2nd June 2009
4th August 2009
6th October 2009
1st December 2008
 
Committeee Meetings Every Month at present 7pm Hesketh Manor.
Due To attendance has change to Tuesdays .
Next Meeting Committee
24th March 2009
28th April 2009
26th May 2009
23th June 2009
28th July 2009
25th August 2009
29th September 2009
27th October 2009
24th November 2009
15th December 2009
 
Yours sincerely
Alan Birtles
Atherton Residents Assoiation
2 Kay Street
Atherton
MANCHESTER
M46 9GR
01942 795060
alanbirtles@tiscali.co.uk
 
 
 
 
 

#201 From: athertonresidentsassociation@...
Date: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:24 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to athertonresidentsassociation
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the athertonresidentsassociation
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   File        : /Health and Wellbeing pilot.large printpub.pdf
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   Description : Info File Wellbeing

You can access this file at the URL:
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/athertonresidentsassociation/files/Health%20and\
%20Wellbeing%20pilot.large%20printpub.pdf

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