--- hi anyone own one of these ? just bought one am interested to
hear any comments
rob
In baylinerboats@..., "Alistair" <alistair-
richardson@t...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that Ian,
>
> Ok, so i don't think the new 325 is all that bad, i quite like it.
> I have voted, and so far all the voted its equal.
>
> For those who haven't seen the boat in question, I have created an
> Album name 'New 325' with a series of photos for us all to comment
> on. Go and look, then vote in the poll section and then post your
> comments here.
>
> Cheers
>
> Alistair.
>
>
>
> --- In baylinerboats@..., "Ian (moderator)"
<ian@d...>
> wrote:
> > Here's a link to the new 325. If it doesnt open copy and paste it.
> >
> > http://international.bayliner.com/cruisers.asp?
> > modelid=50138&year=2005&reqtype=1,9,23
>
Subject: [baylinerboats] Re: Force 90 HP cooling system
Hi Alan once again thankyou for your help. I've managed to replace the impeller and the water is getting up to the powerhead but the overheat alarm is still going off. As long as i keep moving at a steady pace its fine but as soon as i stop the alarm sounds. The impeller was a very tight fit, is that normal? Could it take a little while for the impeller to wear in?
Hi Alan
once again thankyou for your help. I've managed to replace the
impeller and the water is getting up to the powerhead but the overheat
alarm is still going off. As long as i keep moving at a steady pace
its fine but as soon as i stop the alarm sounds. The impeller was a
very tight fit, is that normal? Could it take a little while for the
impeller to wear in?
cheers
Dave
it is a long time since I done this but I do remember changing an impellor on a force 120 on the beach & it took less than an hour
you will have to remove the gearbox housing to gain access to impellor housing. it is normally 4 -6 bolts from the underside and then draw the gearbox & shaft down - you will then see the housing at the top
Subject: Re: [baylinerboats] Force 90 HP cooling system
Hi Alan
Thankyou for your speedy reply.
I'm afraid your right, I did run the engine for about 30 seconds. Do I have to remove the bottom end to replace the impeller?
Cheers
Dave
======================================== Message Received: Jun 05 2006, 10:44 PM From: "ALAN ROBERTSON" To: baylinerboats@... Cc: Subject: Re: [baylinerboats] Force 90 HP cooling system
Hi Dave
did you run the engine out the water (even for seconds) with no mufflers by any chance if so you would have damaged the rubber impeller in the gearbox. this is a relatively easy job to do & is a minor inconvenience in the scale of marine maintenance
Subject: [baylinerboats] Force 90 HP cooling system
Hi all I bought a capri cuddy a couple of months back and after renewing the hydrolic pump have finally put her in the water. Unfortunately she is overheating after about 5 minutes. I'm new to boats so would appreciate any advice you can offer. The boat has never been in the sea. There is no water stream coming from the engine so I'm guessing either the impeller is shot or the system is blocked. What is the first thing I should be checking. I've had a look and cant see any easy way of checking the insides, it looks like the whole bottom end needs to be removed to check the impeller. I'm not even sure where the intake holes are so would greatly welcome any information and advice,
I'm afraid your right, I did run the engine for about 30 seconds. Do I have to remove the bottom end to replace the impeller?
Cheers
Dave
======================================== Message Received: Jun 05 2006, 10:44 PM From: "ALAN ROBERTSON" To: baylinerboats@... Cc: Subject: Re: [baylinerboats] Force 90 HP cooling system
Hi Dave
did you run the engine out the water (even for seconds) with no mufflers by any chance if so you would have damaged the rubber impeller in the gearbox. this is a relatively easy job to do & is a minor inconvenience in the scale of marine maintenance
Subject: [baylinerboats] Force 90 HP cooling system
Hi all I bought a capri cuddy a couple of months back and after renewing the hydrolic pump have finally put her in the water. Unfortunately she is overheating after about 5 minutes. I'm new to boats so would appreciate any advice you can offer. The boat has never been in the sea. There is no water stream coming from the engine so I'm guessing either the impeller is shot or the system is blocked. What is the first thing I should be checking. I've had a look and cant see any easy way of checking the insides, it looks like the whole bottom end needs to be removed to check the impeller. I'm not even sure where the intake holes are so would greatly welcome any information and advice,
did you run the engine out the water (even for seconds) with no mufflers by any chance if so you would have damaged the rubber impeller in the gearbox. this is a relatively easy job to do & is a minor inconvenience in the scale of marine maintenance
Subject: [baylinerboats] Force 90 HP cooling system
Hi all I bought a capri cuddy a couple of months back and after renewing the hydrolic pump have finally put her in the water. Unfortunately she is overheating after about 5 minutes. I'm new to boats so would appreciate any advice you can offer. The boat has never been in the sea. There is no water stream coming from the engine so I'm guessing either the impeller is shot or the system is blocked. What is the first thing I should be checking. I've had a look and cant see any easy way of checking the insides, it looks like the whole bottom end needs to be removed to check the impeller. I'm not even sure where the intake holes are so would greatly welcome any information and advice,
Hi all
I bought a capri cuddy a couple of months back and after renewing the
hydrolic pump have finally put her in the water. Unfortunately she is
overheating after about 5 minutes. I'm new to boats so would
appreciate any advice you can offer. The boat has never been in the
sea. There is no water stream coming from the engine so I'm guessing
either the impeller is shot or the system is blocked. What is the
first thing I should be checking. I've had a look and cant see any
easy way of checking the insides, it looks like the whole bottom end
needs to be removed to check the impeller. I'm not even sure where the
intake holes are so would greatly welcome any information and advice,
cheers
Dave
Simon,
I used to have a 1952 classic with a 3 litre OMC a few years back. It
wasn't too bad on fuel..better than my mates 2052 with the 4.3.
I averaged about 9gph at WOT, and he managed about 11 which, at the time
was quite a lot of cash for both of us. It would regularly cost in
excess of £250 for a weekend of heavy use (skiing etc..)
Have you considered a 602 with the 1.7 Mercruiser diesel?....I have and
it's a real fuel miser. Ok, it's not as quick out of the "hole" as a big
petrol but with a bit of practise you can get it moving fairly quickly.
It will top 43knots on a good day,(4 passemgers and 120l of ribena on a
flat calm) on an average cruise at 30 knots it will return about 3-4
gph...you do the maths at 46p per litre!!!
I am finding that since the switch my boating use has increased, I can
go further as red diesel is far more readily available and it doesn’t
burst the bank. Oh, and it keeps SWMBO sweet...!!!
I think that at the size of boat your looking at, with a cuddy cabin the
602, if cost is your thing is a good alternative. My problem is I'm now
looking for a 4 berth Bayliner cruiser with a diesel to enable the same
useage....it's seems I'm looking for the Holy Grail at my budget.
Regards,
Clyde.
-----Original Message-----
From: baylinerboats@...
[mailto:baylinerboats@...] On Behalf Of nismoglider
Sent: 03 June 2006 18:02
To: baylinerboats@...
Subject: [baylinerboats] Fuel usage
Hi Guys
New member here.
Looking to buy either a bayliner 2052 or 212.The problem with the
later is,fuel.What i cant seem to figure out is how much a 5ltr will
use compared to either a 4.3 or 3ltr engines found on the 2052.I keep
hearing that possibly a 4.3 could be as economical as a 3ltr but i
just dont see how,regardless of what speed your doing.Now i do know
that just cruising around, a 3ltr is very economical,but i'm worried
that a 5ltr will literally sink me,well my wallet.
Can anyone shed any light on this matter,any experiences with any of
these engine sizes.I mean,would a 3ltr in a 2052 travelling at say 35-
40 mph use the same as a 5ltr on a 212 travelling at say 20-25 mph.
Any information or figures would be really appreciated guys, and
thanks for reading
Simon
Yahoo! Groups Links
Hi Guys
New member here.
Looking to buy either a bayliner 2052 or 212.The problem with the
later is,fuel.What i cant seem to figure out is how much a 5ltr will
use compared to either a 4.3 or 3ltr engines found on the 2052.I keep
hearing that possibly a 4.3 could be as economical as a 3ltr but i
just dont see how,regardless of what speed your doing.Now i do know
that just cruising around, a 3ltr is very economical,but i'm worried
that a 5ltr will literally sink me,well my wallet.
Can anyone shed any light on this matter,any experiences with any of
these engine sizes.I mean,would a 3ltr in a 2052 travelling at say 35-
40 mph use the same as a 5ltr on a 212 travelling at say 20-25 mph.
Any information or figures would be really appreciated guys, and
thanks for reading
Simon
Brian
If its a Jabsco head it sounds like you need a service kit. Available
from good swindlers or Jabsco web site at about £26. The seacock lever
should as you say be aligned with the valve when open. Not sure were
the seacocks are on your boat. Are you pumping any water into the tank
if you hand fill the bowl ?
Ian
Hi,
New member here. I recently purchased a 1986 2550 Ciera. I love the
boat and all is well except I can't figure out how to flush the
toilet. No water seems to be coming into it and nothing is going into
the holding tank..(we learned this the hard way...don't ask). Anyway,
I read the owners manual section on this , which is pretty vague, and
was instructed to dismantle the pump and check the diaphragm..did
that and found no problem there. Talked to the former owner, who only
had the boat a few months before being relocated and selling it. He
is clueless as to what the problem is, says he never used the head.
I'm trying to get in touch with the guy who had it before him but am
asking for help here, just in case.
I see an inlet seacock on starboard side of engine compartment. I
assume this is for the head. I assume also the seacock is open when
the handle is aligned vertical, parallel to the hose, vs
horizontal,at 90 degrees to the hose. Correct?
Also, there is a macerator pump but i dont see a control switch for
it...where might it be?
What is the procedure for pumping out the holding tank?
Any help/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all
Brian Jalbert
805 423 1361
I recently acquired a 1984 Bayliner Capri with a 1984 Force 85 HP
motor. I am having great difficulty finding a propeller to fit the
motor. i-boats.com sent me one but it is wrong, and I can't seem to
find anyone who can tell me what propeller to buy. hmmm.... it has
a Michigan prop on it now. If anyone has an actual part number or even
a used prop, let me know.
Eamon S.
als911medic@...
Hi,
I have 2 5.7 V8 cylinder engines for sale, they have just come out of
my 2958 as new diesels are being installed...I know what they are
worth and are open to offers..I have just bought the boat and the last
owner has stated that the engines have done low hours and have not
been used as the last owner used the boat as a form of living space on
the thames.
Please email if interested at robinstall@...
They are currently lying in Cardiff..
Thanks for answering. I'm just north of Lochgilphead near Crinnan. The guy I bought it off reckons the seals may have gone. He knocked a fair bit off the price due to this. Being new to power boats I didn't want to get ripped off. Even a rough estitmate would be appreciated.
Cheers
Dave
======================================== Message Received: Mar 09 2006, 12:37 PM From: "Ian (moderator)" To: baylinerboats@... Cc: Subject: [baylinerboats] Re: tilt & trim
Welcome aboard Dave. Hard to say really cos it depends what exactly is wrong with it and were you are. If you can give us an idea were you are someone may be able to reccomend a mechanic and or give you a better idea. Ian
Welcome aboard Dave.
Hard to say really cos it depends what exactly is wrong with it and
were you are.
If you can give us an idea were you are someone may be able to
reccomend a mechanic and or give you a better idea.
Ian
Hi
I have just bought my first Bayliner. A capri cuddy 2002. Could anyone
give me a rough idea what a fair price is for having the tilt & trim
repaired. I think the seals have gone.
Cheers
Dave.
Hi all,hope someone can help me.I bought my boat last year as a runner
and soon discovered the 5litre v8 was shot.Have bought a new engine
(5.7litre vortec)from the US and im ready to fit it.I need to buy a
trailer and move her to my work place to carry out the work.im told i
need a 2000k 21ft but dont want to get it wrong as the seemlesly
endless money pit is gettin ever deeper.Thanks>>Paul..
PS/ IF ANYONE HAS A SUITABLE TRAILER AT A REALISTIC PRICE GET IN
TOUCH..Paul.07841040960
I used to be! And will be again! :-)
On Wednesday, March 01, 2006, at 02:08PM, Ian (moderator)
<ian@...> wrote:
>Whats all this talk of hibernation ?
>Some of us have had our boat on the water all winter and still stop
>onboard even in the cold and the wet.
>Anyone else an allweather boater ?
>Ian
Ken
Seems that some areas suffer from premature anode erosion more than
others. Has to be down to galvanic isolation or summat surely. Had my
boat lifted for a leg service and a waterline antifoul 12 months ago,
hoping to get another 12 months then a full antifoul and another
service. Nobody said this boating lark was cheap, still "Its only
money"
Ian
Hi Ian,
This is the first winter I have spent ashore in several years. My
original intention was to take my boat out for the winter every 2 or
3 years to allow the hull to dry out completely. Previously I have
never kept a boat long enough to hit the 3 year point.
When I bought the Bayliner new in September 2004, the second or
third year storage was still in mind, but when I had her lifted in
March 2005 to antifoul and get the leg serviced I was surprised to
find the ring anode behind the props had all but disappeared. I had
been on shore power through the winter to run a dehumidifier so
thought this might be the problem, so I asked the Bayliner dealer to
fit a galvanic isolator, only to discover that there was already one
onboard (it's not listed on the Bayliner spec. sheet). I was
concerned it might not be working so tested it and it was OK.
I decided to bring her out this winter as there were a couple of
warranty jobs that needed to be done out of the water, when she was
lifted in November the anode had all but disappeared again.
So I am now faced with two lifts and anode replacement per annum or
take her out for the winter; financially this is break even, so have
decided to go for winter storage.
This problem is not limited to my boat, quite a few of my boating
neighbours have found a similar problem recently although I didn't
suffer it to anywhere near the same extent with previous boats in
the same berth. I spoke to a Volvo dealer who told me that some
boats find their anodes gone in less than 3 months!
Regards
Ken
Hi Lee,
That is a tale of woe that probably beats anything the rest of us can
come up with.
Here's hoping you get it sorted soon and can get back on the water.
Regards
Ken
Ian, i wouldn't mind being an all weather boater, but for some reason
i don't get that many invites out on boats!!! lol.
Cheers
Alistair.
--- In baylinerboats@..., "Ian (moderator)" <ian@d...>
wrote:
>
> Whats all this talk of hibernation ?
> Some of us have had our boat on the water all winter and still stop
> onboard even in the cold and the wet.
> Anyone else an allweather boater ?
> Ian
>
Whats all this talk of hibernation ?
Some of us have had our boat on the water all winter and still stop
onboard even in the cold and the wet.
Anyone else an allweather boater ?
Ian
On Tuesday, February 28, 2006, at 11:22AM, Alistair
<alistair-richardson@...> wrote:
>Hi Lee,
>
>Cricky, thats a hell of a story, sounds like a boater worst
>nightmare!!!
Could have been worse. Could have sank while we were out on her.
>Hope you get it sorted soon, and may i advice you change insurance
>companies.
Funny you should say that...
>You'll be soo looking forward to getting back in the water.
>Enjoy when you do.
I can hardly wait! It's going to be like starting boating all over again! :-)
Yes indeed it does upset me - although this is the reason that I part exed the Bayliner on the current Hardy that I bought - my fuel costs for last season were
£1355
Total nm = 320
£7.38 per mile
Average speed was 20kn
Ive yet to do the figures on the new 36fter but already a tank at 105UK gals = £230 as opposed to the Bayliner at 80UK gals of £469
Clive
Another Bayliner owner is coming out of winter hibernation.
My 245 is now prepared for the coming season and I'm looking forward to getting back on the water.
I have stored her ashore for the winter; launching is scheduled for early March.
We had the controversy last year on types of fuel and I promised to publish my consumption figures.
Last season I ran for 87 hours, covering 700 miles and consuming 187 gallons of Diesel. This gave me a consumption of 2.15 gph and 3.7 miles per gallon. (Hours measured on engine hour meter, miles from GPS)
My average speeds are lowish, this is due to having a fairly long stretch of restricted speed area from berth to open water and time spent relaxing or fishing. However once in open water I open her up and cruise in the low to mid twenties, dependant on conditions.
The maximum speed I have hit during the season was 30.5 knots
Fuel cost for the season was £384.
That should upset a few of you with petrol fuelled boats
Regards and best wishes to all Bayliner owners for the coming season
Hi Lee,
Cricky, thats a hell of a story, sounds like a boater worst
nightmare!!!
Hope you get it sorted soon, and may i advice you change insurance
companies.
You'll be soo looking forward to getting back in the water.
Enjoy when you do.
Cheers
Alistair.
--- In baylinerboats@..., Lee Walton <leewalton@m...>
wrote:
>
> My poor 2055 has been out of the water for over 2 years now, but
will hopefully be ready to go back into the water this season.
>
> We had a catastrophic sequence of events that took place starting
in November 2003. The boat was out of the water having her engines
serviced by a reputable firm in Brighton Marina. However, when she
was returned to the water, due to an oversight by this firm water
was allowed to enter the engine compartment faster than the bilge
pumps could keep up with.
>
> Unoticed, the boat was moved back to her berth by the marina, and
over the next few hours she sank at her berth.
>
> This was just the start of our problems.
>
> I reluctantly agreed with the insurance company the she should be
refitted by Langney Marine in Eastbourne. After a year of Langney
Marine working on the boat, they were still waiting for parts, and
the boat was virtually stripped bare. In December of 2004, Langney
Marine went into administration, and the majority of the components
required to complete the work on the boat were sold by
administrators (illegally in my view, as they had already been paid
for).
>
> It took months to gain access to what parts still remained in
Langney's former offices due to various legalities, and for the last
six months or so Poole Aquatic have taken on the job of completing
the refit.
>
> Unfortunately, the insurance company no longer wants to know, and
I'm going to be very much out of pocket.
>
> The whole process has been made so difficult because many of the
parts required are no longer available from Bayliner... and this is
only a 2001 boat!!!
>
> Anyway, hopefully she'll be back in the water soon, and we'll be
able to enjoy cruising once again.
>
My poor 2055 has been out of the water for over 2 years now, but will hopefully
be ready to go back into the water this season.
We had a catastrophic sequence of events that took place starting in November
2003. The boat was out of the water having her engines serviced by a reputable
firm in Brighton Marina. However, when she was returned to the water, due to an
oversight by this firm water was allowed to enter the engine compartment faster
than the bilge pumps could keep up with.
Unoticed, the boat was moved back to her berth by the marina, and over the next
few hours she sank at her berth.
This was just the start of our problems.
I reluctantly agreed with the insurance company the she should be refitted by
Langney Marine in Eastbourne. After a year of Langney Marine working on the
boat, they were still waiting for parts, and the boat was virtually stripped
bare. In December of 2004, Langney Marine went into administration, and the
majority of the components required to complete the work on the boat were sold
by administrators (illegally in my view, as they had already been paid for).
It took months to gain access to what parts still remained in Langney's former
offices due to various legalities, and for the last six months or so Poole
Aquatic have taken on the job of completing the refit.
Unfortunately, the insurance company no longer wants to know, and I'm going to
be very much out of pocket.
The whole process has been made so difficult because many of the parts required
are no longer available from Bayliner... and this is only a 2001 boat!!!
Anyway, hopefully she'll be back in the water soon, and we'll be able to enjoy
cruising once again.
Another Bayliner owner is coming out of winter hibernation.
My 245 is now prepared for the coming season and I'm looking forward
to getting back on the water.
I have stored her ashore for the winter; launching is scheduled for
early March.
We had the controversy last year on types of fuel and I promised to
publish my consumption figures.
Last season I ran for 87 hours, covering 700 miles and consuming 187
gallons of Diesel. This gave me a consumption of 2.15 gph and 3.7
miles per gallon.
(Hours measured on engine hour meter, miles from GPS)
My average speeds are lowish, this is due to having a fairly long
stretch of restricted speed area from berth to open water and time
spent relaxing or fishing. However once in open water I open her up
and cruise in the low to mid twenties, dependant on conditions.
The maximum speed I have hit during the season was 30.5 knots
Fuel cost for the season was £384.
That should upset a few of you with petrol fuelled boats
Regards and best wishes to all Bayliner owners for the coming season
Ken
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