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Re: [bbgforum] Instructions on not eating meat

A few weeks ago Cait read something to us which I said sounded to me like Roman Catholicism in it's tone of 'thou shalt not' and we all seemed to agree. Having reflected long and hard on this subject, I am coming to the conclusion that this feels the same to me. I reiterate my highly comfortable position where I don't actually have to give up anything, but if we were talking about other 'transgressions'.... I might be finding this a while lot more difficult.
 
I have 'pets' which eat other sentient beings - and they are fed to them live. My frog and mantids all eat live crickets. Is this wrong? It's what they would eat in the wild. I must say that I have recently made the decision, as the mantids die, to move over to phasmids, which are vegetarian but that is at least partly convenience!  When I had a cat, she ate meat. I believe you cannot keep cats as vegetarians, although you can dogs? Any transgressions I made in caring for her were far outweighed by the mutual love and affection we had for one another. I cared for her as she was dying and she taught me about letting go. Amazing story - won't go into it here but it was incredible to me.
Also, in my work, I sometimes need to kill and set insects in order to identify them microscopically. This doesn't sit easy with me but, if rare species are to be found in order to protect areas and habitats (and therefore species), there is sometimes no other way. Am I making excuses to excuse what I do? Probably - I think that's human nature!
 
I have never tried to convert anyone to vegetarianism, and never would. It's a personal choice, like religion.
 
Someone raised the topic of fish. Something I have never understood is how someone who claims to be vegetarian can eat fish! Their choice, of course, but eating the flesh of any living creature cannot be called vegetarian! Otherwise I could be a teetotaller who only drank malt whisky!!
 
Love this discussion - it's really making me think.
 
Hope the weather doesn't turn out as bad as they are suggesting as it looks as though travelling could be a bit tricky tomorrow.
 
Love
Sarah



Wed Feb 7, 2007 10:45 pm

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Hi all thought you may be interested...... with love Ian The following is translated from a New Year's Eve teaching given at Tergar Monastery by HH 17th Gyalwa...
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Jan 27, 2007
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Thank you Ian hope I got the right e-mail address re CAT Introd. Day at www.acat.me.uk/eventsandtraining.php as I remembered you said you might be interested...
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Dear All, How easy to sit back and take a 'holier-than-thou' stance!! Doesn't it just make you feel all smug and warm inside when something like this happens...
SARAH PATTON
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Feb 5, 2007
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hi sarah, Rinpoche says enjoy samsara, we are in it for a long time love m...
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Ah, but is that enjoy it MINDFULLY? Does anyone know of Rinpoche's reaction to HH Karmapa's request? Love Sarah Rmrichardsonuk@... wrote: hi sarah,...
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Feb 5, 2007
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Hi all, I was thinking about this today at work and I have to say I'm feeling all confused and at sixes and sevens about what to do. Like Sarah I've been a...
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Feb 5, 2007
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maybe jude does, it was her that sent the email and it was Rinpoche that translated the Karmapa's talk, so he couldn't have not had some reaction/response as a...
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hi sue how about reducing the buying and cooking of meat by one day a week to start with and maybe after a few months maybe one of the family could buy and...
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Hi Sue I agree, it's difficult (and not my idea of personal responsibility) to tell others what to do, it need sto be from them I think....... we make...
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Feb 6, 2007
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i do like all this gentle not-imposing-my-views-on-others-it's-not-BC (buddhistically correct!) stuff! however i can't resist spicing the discussion up a bit!...
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Feb 7, 2007
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But... Don't I also have to honour the choices I made years ago when I decided to get married and have children? It would be easier for me to say 'I'm not...
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A few weeks ago Cait read something to us which I said sounded to me like Roman Catholicism in it's tone of 'thou shalt not' and we all seemed to agree. Having...
SARAH PATTON
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Feb 7, 2007
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Is anyone else planning to go to the Chenrezig Empowerment in Chichester on 10th April? Sarah...
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Hi Sarah, Don't know anything about it - where, when etc??? X Sue SARAH PATTON <house.mouse@...> wrote: Is anyone else planning to go to the...
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Hi everyone Myself (Claire) and Ilsa will be going. Its costs £12.00 each and you have to phone and book. Tel 01243 671309 Jill/Andrew. They will then send...
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hi claire and everyone just a gentle mention in case anyone doesn't know - i'm sure you all do know, but just in case ... if you are considering taking an...
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Hi Cait & everyone Many thanks for your advice Cait, just wanted to clarify some points:- The event is being held in celebration of the 40th anniversary of ...
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Hi Claire again below message from Rinpoche: 'I think it is very good to receive the empowerment from Akong Rinpoche'. Love, RT...
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Mar 21, 2007
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Hands up anyone who thinks Cait pious!!!! I cna't believe that one! It's an interesting one.......... I'm all for a convincing argument that someone is...
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Feb 8, 2007
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whew thanks ian about the pious bit! re this whole discussion, i'm not actually so very interested in the vegetarianism per se, as in the issues it is bringing...
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just found this on the web m QUOTE(Karma Gedun @ Jan 29 2007, 02:08 PM) HH The Karmarpa was not issuing a diktat on meat eating , he was suggesting a...
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Hi All Follow this link to see what is happening in Bournemouth next week! As well as a sand mandala at the library there are a couple of dance performances. ...
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Hey does anyone fancy going? ix ... From: SARAH PATTON To: bbgforum@... Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: [bbgforum] Tashi Lhunpo...
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