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HH The Karmarpa was not issuing a diktat on meat eating , he was suggesting a reflection on it.
I'm not sure that this is entirely correct. From Vin Harris' report of HH Karmapa's teaching at the monlam, he does rule out eating meat and drinking alcohol at Kagyu centres and monasteries.
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With immediate effect: ·No meat is to be prepared in the kitchen of any Kagyu Monastery or Centre ·No one is to be involved in the business of buying and selling meat – for all of His followers this practice must stop. ·There is to be no killing of animals on Kagyu premises – the slaughterhouse at Turphu must be closed. ·He is aware of monks in robes going to buy meat and does not want to see this ever again.
Perhaps Vin Harris has not represented HH Karmapa's teaching correctly, and I would like to see a full translation of HH Karmapa's teaching as soon as possible. But if the text does faithfully reflect the intention of HH Karmapa, such an event would be going against it.
Best wishes, Michael.
I have heard multiple interpretations of this speech by others that were there.....we should wait for the transcript to avoid confusion......from what I heard....it seems Vin's notes may be a bit heavy-handed.
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