Hiya I recieved the info I requested from PANL (provincial archives
of Newfoundland and Labrador) today, I asked them to search for my
Joseph Beeso born 1860 parents. It appears the tree is correct as His
father is Michael Beseau and mother Ann Lewis excellent!
The bad news is that PANL are closed now until 1st september as they
are moving location, so my idea to send for Mary Jane Butt's details
and also michael and Ann's details has gone out of the window sob...
It says on the paperwork any queries recieved after april 1st 2005
will be returned.
The tree is really growing now, if anyone wants to add their photos
or old family photos to the tree please let me know and I will put
them onto the Gedcom file. I have started to put a few of my family
on there, but need to scan some more in. The tree files will be
updated in a minute or two.
Michelle

Hiya everyone the tree really is growing now!!
In the files section I have added a gedcom file of the tree so far, I
am just learning how to do this so not sure how well it will work.
Basically its a file that you can open in your family tree building
software (family tree maker, genpro ect)that will let you view and
edit the people in the tree so far.
If you download it please go through your section of the tree and let
me know of any errors particulary in the spelling of your branches
surname i.e. besso, besaw, beeso ect as it gets quite confusing but I
would like to try and get it as accurate as possible.
Thanks everyone
Michelle

Hiya I found the following on chebucto site....

1908 Jan. 3 1908 Jan. 3 Holyrood Roman Catholic Francis Bensan [sic]
John & Jane Bensan  laborer


Any ideas where this might fit??

hi,, i would love to see the beeso tree ,, i try getting in there but i can
not,, can you tell me why,, mary beeso  hop you are all well



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Hiya Lori thanks for joining the group! Well there have been quite a
few different spellings in our branch of the tree and Besson has
appeared a few times. Whereabouts are your family from ? That should
help to narrow down your search as usually each country has its own
sites to help do research.
Michelle

Hey All,
I am a Besson and am new at doing the Family history. First I am
wondering are all these spellings connected? Where are the best
places to look? Any help would be wonderful!!! Thanks, Lori

I have had 2 replies to this posting sent to myself and it would
appear these people are part of our tree, have added them to my
updated tree on the links page for anyone who is interested.

Originally this group was on msn, and I have just found 2 messages
posted to the old site here they are below, have invited the author
to join this group .

Message 1
Hi,  We have a Bisso (Biso, Bissault) in our family.  Some relatives
are still living in PEI.  Laura Bisso married Jean Louis Moulin.
Laura's father was Thomas Biso.  Any connection?
Regards, Moe

Message 2
Hi Michelle,
We don't have a lot of information on this family.  We have talked to
relatives a couple of years ago living in P.E.I. who told us that the
spelling of their name was Bissault.  Our mother Laura May Bisso
married Louis Jean Moulin May 24, 1932 in St. Dunstan's Bastilica in
Charlottown, P.E.I.
There seems to be many different spellings of this name, do you think
there is a connection to the other families on this site?  Our father
changed the spelling of Moulin to Mollin by looping the "u" on his
marriage certificate.
We have relatives nearby who use the spelling Moulin.
Thanks for this site.
Donna and Maurice Mollin
Victoria, B.C.

Hello everyone hope you are all well and happy.

My mother has recieved a letter from a lady who married into a Beeso
family.
Her husbands father was a Stephen Beeso, he had brothers, William
James, Edward and Michael, and sisters Elizabeth, Christine , Angela
and Mary. These were born in Holyrood.
Their parents were Michael Beeso (born around Badger Newfoundland)
and Alice Mason from holyrood. They settled in holyrood.The family
later moved to Bell island.
The son Edward moved back to holyrood, Michael Married a Bertha Doyle
and moved to cameron New Jersey. Mary moved to Nova Scotia, Angela
moved to New Jersey and Christine moved to St Johns NFL.
The lady who wrote the letter says they are the only Beeso's on bell
island now.

Does anyone recognise these people and where they fit on the tree? I
would imagine they are related to me as my family branch is Beeso
too, any info would be great.

Thanks
Michelle

Hiya just looking through some old family photos will post them up
here soon and have found an Angus Mcphail who is a cousin to our
beeso family, he was from scotland. Has anyone else heard this
surname mentioned or have any scottish links?

Harbour Grace - Anglican Burial Records, 1830 - 1839


18 Mar 1830 Ann Bessom 86 yr of Spanyards Bay, & there was buried

Found listed in the plantation records, this may assist us in
determining the fancis or john bisson question...? (also phillip
beson mention in record at bottom of the page)

Conception Bay North Region
"Return of Possession held in Conception Bay 1805"
Pages 43 - 81
On August 21, 1804, in an effort to help avoid frequent disputes
regarding possession and rights of Fishing Rooms, Beaches, Flakes and
land, Governor Erasmus Gower issued an order directing his Surrogates
around the Island of Newfoundland to take an exact account of all
Fishing Rooms, Wharves, Beaches, Flakes, etc. within 200 yards from
the High Water Mark and register them in a book. The claims of every
Merchant, Planter, and Boat Keeper to the land he occupied were to be
clearly defined. This official Register of Fishing Rooms was to be
admitted as evidence in all land claim disputes.

278 Francis Beson 94 yds. from N.E. to S.West bounded on the S.W. by
Con. Kennedy 201 yds. from H.W.M. to the N. bounded on all sides by
the woods. 1S. 1F. 1H. 1 Garden " Francis Beson Cut and cleared
agreeable to Act Wm.111 Chap 25.Sec.7 F. Beson " 1792 "



715 John Besom 140 yds. from E. to W. bounded on the E. by Robert
Brown on the W. by the children of Francis Sheppard 70 yds. from
H.W.M. to the N. bounded on the N. by the woods . 1 Stage 1 Flake 1
Beach 5 Gardens 2 Houses. " " " Jno. Besom " 1803 "



892 Catharine Gosse 73 yds. from E. to W. bounded on the E. by Peter
Howell Jr. on the W. by Gosse & Chancey 256 yds. from H.W.M. to the
N. bounded on the N. by the woods. 1 House 1 Garden 1 Meadow. ''
Cath. Gosse Bread & Cheese Cove Purchased from Thos. Mann for £30
Gosse & Chancey '' 1804 Leased to Gosse & Chancey for 31 years for £5
per annum



958 Henry Warford 136 yds. from N.E. to S.W.by the Seaside 179 yds.
from H.W.M. to the N. bounded on the N. by the woods 1 Stage 3 Flakes
2 Gardens. Divided between the 5 children of Henry Warford by the
decree of the Court, 13th Oct. 1821, I Goup Nicolas Surrogate ? Do Do
Part purchased from Philip Besom of Jersey for £30 and part cut and
cleared agreeable to Act.Wm.3rd.Chap.25 Sec.7 H. Warford H.Grace Do
1776
  H. Warford sold for £30

I found the info below


Return of the names and ages of all the persons on the permanent
Pauper list on the 1st January 1849 [kept at Harbour Grace] Shewing
[exact spelling] the date of admission, the annual allowance of Her
Majesty's Government to each person, the names of the commisioners
appointed to conduct and manage the admissions of paupers, and paying
the same. The said annual allowance, with statement of the expenses
attending thereon. Names of the said Commisioners - Thomas Danson,
Robert John Pinsent, Joseph Ryan...{This is at the end of the list
with a Date of Feb 20, 1849 at Harbour Grace


Res = residence, Doa = date of Admission, Amt = amount of allowance,
abt. = about, Carb = Carbonear, Sal. C. = Salmon Cove, Och. C =
Ochrepit Cove, Wes. B = Western Bay, Low P. = Low Point, Bl. Me Dw =
Blow Me Down, H.G. = Harbour Grace, S. B = Spaniards Bay, Mos =
Mosquito, Sad. H = Saddle Hill, Up. Is. C. = Upper Island Cove, B. de
V. = Bay de Verds, H.M. = Harbour Main


John Besson, abt. 77 yrs (would make his dob 1771)
Res - S.B.
Doa - 1st April, 1844
Amt - £4/4/0

the following appear on the 1835 voters list for

North Point of Turk's Gut to McGrath's House on the South Side of
Holy Rood

BEESON, Francis Holy Rood North Side
BEESON, Michael Holy Rood North Side
BEESON, Edmund Holy Rood North Side

I found the info below


Return of the names and ages of all the persons on the permanent
Pauper list on the 1st January 1849 [kept at Harbour Grace] Shewing
[exact spelling] the date of admission, the annual allowance of Her
Majesty's Government to each person, the names of the commisioners
appointed to conduct and manage the admissions of paupers, and paying
the same. The said annual allowance, with statement of the expenses
attending thereon. Names of the said Commisioners - Thomas Danson,
Robert John Pinsent, Joseph Ryan...{This is at the end of the list
with a Date of Feb 20, 1849 at Harbour Grace


Res = residence, Doa = date of Admission, Amt = amount of allowance,
abt. = about, Carb = Carbonear, Sal. C. = Salmon Cove, Och. C =
Ochrepit Cove, Wes. B = Western Bay, Low P. = Low Point, Bl. Me Dw =
Blow Me Down, H.G. = Harbour Grace, S. B = Spaniards Bay, Mos =
Mosquito, Sad. H = Saddle Hill, Up. Is. C. = Upper Island Cove, B. de
V. = Bay de Verds, H.M. = Harbour Main


John Besson, abt. 77 yrs (would make his dob 1771)
Res - S.B.
Doa - 1st April, 1844
Amt - £4/4/0

See below, This may be John Besson born c1739 who died in spaniards
bay


NFGenWeb Information Tidbits
Conception Bay North - Spaniard's Bay
Founding Families of Spaniard's Bay (Circa 1800)
Gleaned from the book The Settling of Spaniard's Bay by Eric M.
Gosse.
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William PEDDLE
Bartholomew NEIL
James KELLY
Charles NOSEWORTHY
William PORTER
Thomas NOSEWORTHY
John WARFORD
Timothy COLLINS
Henry SHEPPARD Jr.
Henry SHEPPARD Sr.
Jonathan SHEPPARD
Francis SHEPPARD
John BESOM

Well at least the birth date is in the middle of 1765 and 1776....I
think this is the best evidence of this man & woman yet...good work!

This Patrick is the son of James Beseau b1861 and with 2 marriages:
Mary Ann Penton or Petton and Mary Ann Kennedy. Craig Besaw says this
james is the forefather of the Central Nfld Beson families. You will
find this Patrick of the "Will" died April 14 1917 in the Battle of Arras.
Craig places James as the son of Francis Beseau & Catherine Abbott.

Have just found this in the ancestral file of the family search site

Ann Gosse
   Female   Family


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Event(s):
  Birth:  1775

  Christening:
  Death:
  Burial:


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Marriages:
   Spouse:  John Bissom  Family
   Marriage:  06 DEC 1796   Harbour Grace, Newfoundland, Newfoundland


It says he was born 1771 , which confuses things more!

This Patrick who married Elizabeth Flynn is indeed the son of John
Beeso who married jane Butler-Murphy

I have Patrick James Besso (b1901- Son of John Besso and Jane Butler)
as being married to Elizabeth Flynn (1906-1973) . The other two
patricks you mentioned I have no wives for them at all at present.

I have just found this, I know it doesnt give much info but its a
start..
    Eric BESSO
     Birth Date: 21 Aug 1897
     Death Date: Aug 1970
     Social Security Number:  019-18-5278
     State or Territory Where Number Was Issued:  Massachusetts

   Death Residence Localities
     ZIP Code: 02740
     Localities:  New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts

6 Dec 1796 John Bissom also Ann Gosse on the same date.  From NGB
site for marriages for the Chuchc of England. I do not have anything
more on the source.  Need to read the records in the archives to see
if age is given.

Oh yes sorry about that I should have put that, do apologise.
Tonight I have been going through Mike Cahills final version of the
tree and updated mine. I have left John Bisson and Francis as
separate people for now, and they do appear at present to be that way
as the info for their children is different, but still am not
positive. The birth dates of both this mens children are very similar
but they do seem to show two separate families at the moment. This
really is a big puzzle isnt it!

Note the various spellings that are place in the will.  Also wonder
who is father James is.  Wonder if this was made before going
overseas and he dieig in 1918.  Grand Falls had the highest ration
enlisted for WWI, maybe helped by the English mill owners
guarenteeing them their job when they came home and making up any
loss of wages.

Will of Patrick Beson
from Newfoundland will books vol 11 pages 150 & 151 probate year 1918
(this surname was spelled many different ways throughout this will, I
spelled it ,each time, the way the court clerk had done,)

In re Patrick Beson       deceased


This is the Last Will and Testament of me Patrick Beson. Fireman of
(?????) Wood CHg(?) Dept. of the Paper Mills of the Town of Grand
falls in the Island of Newfoundland:
I give devise and bequeath to my sister Esther Harigan [nee Bessant]
all my household effects and all other goods belonging to me now in
the possession of my brother Francis Besant
I give devise & bequeath to my brother Pierce and Ronald Besant my
Life Insurance to the value of one thousand dollars now held by me in
the Canadian Manufacturers Life Insurance Company the full amount to
be held in trust by my executor hereinafter appointed until the
younger of my brothers has completed his twenty-first year and then
to be distributed to them in equal sums each receiving five hundred
dollars.
I give devise and bequeath the sum of one hundred dollars to the Rev.
William Finn P.P. Grand falls to have one solemn High Mass of Requiem
and five Requiem Masses and the balance in Low Masses for the repose
of my soul
I give devise & bequeath all moneys to my credit in the Bank of
Montreal Grand falls after the sum of one hundred dollars has been
deducted from them for Masses, to be equally apportioned and
distributed amongst my brothers Francis George Leo and John and my
father James Besant each receiving a like share. And I hereby
nominate and appoint Rev. William Finn Parrish Priest Grand falls to
be the sole Executor of this my Last Will & Testament.
In witness whereof I have hereunto subscribed my hand at Grand falls
this 29th day of February Anno Domini nineteen hundred and sixteen
Patrick Beson. Signed subscribed and declared by the said Patrick
Besant as his Last Will & Testament in the presence of us who in his
presence, at his request and in the presence of each other have
hereunto our names as witnesses subscribed Thos J. Dunphy   John W.
Kelly
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Correct Charles H. Emerson

I have just posted 2  WWI documents found on the
www.collectionscanada/archiviannet for a: Edward Besso b. Holyrood
July 16 1899...mother "Mrs Betty Besso  and for a : Eric Besso b. Aug
15, 1897 mother "Elizabeth Besso".
Who are their parents?
I have Patrick Joseph b1873 (parents: Patrick m. Cath Brien) married
to...??Elizabeth Davis...or?? Elizabeth Marie Flynn...and
Patrick Francis b. 1870 (parents: Patrick m. Mary Ellen Lewis)
...married to..??Elizabeth Davis or ??/Elizabeth Mariee Flynn
Can anyone help me out here?/
Thanks Evelyn

The Besso file that Michelle has posted from me (Evelyn Morrissey) is
just the result of my "musing" over the plethora of similar names we
have in the first 3 generations of the Besso and trying to place tem
in the correct generations and attached to the correct parents. If you
read the file you will find various explanations of why I did what I
did.....BUT..in no way was this version of the Besso family tree ever
intended to be totally correct...so please read it with that in mind.
In fact the more I look at it myself the more I think that "Francis
John" and "John" could be the same person and not brothers as I
proposed and "Anne Gosse" and "Catherine Gosse" are the same person &
not sisters as I proposed....but it is an interesting concept don't
you think?!
So if these people are the same person..and "Frances John" married
Catherine? Anne Gosse in 1897....my first question is: was he born in
1865 or 1876?? and my second question is: was Katherine MaKay a second
wife of Francis John?? Omce we get that sorted out then we can deal
with the offspring...
Evelyn

Hiya all, thanks for joining!! My first query on the family tree is
about my relative joseph beeso born 1860 who married mary jane butt
in harbour grace in 1889, his father was michael. Am I right in
thinking his father is Michael beeso who married ann ellen lewis? And
his father michael beeso who married sarah wall? Any thoughts or
comments let me know

Hiya now we have a major confusion between trees of where francis
john besson fits. I have found a marriage record dating 6/12/1796
between a john bissom and anne gosse in harbour grace.

now Len Besaw has Francis John Besson born 1765 married to Ann Gross
daughter of Robert Gross and Catherine Pike .

Craig Besaw has Francois "Francis" John Besson born 1765 approx,
married Anne Gosse 6/12/1796 in harbour grace nfl.

Mike Cahill has John Bissou/Besso born about 1776 married Mary Ann
Gosse on 6/12/1796 (same as craigs) in harbour grace.

Evelyn Morrisey has Francis John Besson(1765), married to Catherine
gosse about 1796 and Katherine Mckay about 1801. But there is
confusion as she has John Besson(1776) as a separate person who
married Anne Gosse  6/12/1796 (same date again) and their children
are born around the same time as Francis and Katherine Mckay's
children, so this couldnt be the same man with a different wife.

Now it seems the Anne or Mary anne seems to be a common theme, but we
need to establish whether John and Francis John are the same person?

Has anyone got any thoughts on this?