RE: [brightonhovecycleforum] No allocation of time to Bricycles on the agenda for Jun 3
Becky
As Chris has pointed out these items ARE explicitly on the agenda. Taking your points in turn:
1. This is in Item 2 which includes as bullet points both "Election of Chair (or agreement on rotating Chair)" and "Minutes of meetings"
2. This is referred to in Item 3. I know that interviews have been held. I'm sure that if there is any more information available we will hear about it at the meeting, but clearly if the post has not yet been formally filled then we can't expect any details yet.
3. In Item 3 "Cycle Freeways Grand Avenue/The Drive.
4. In Item 5 "Monitoring"
These issues are all wide ranging issues of concern to all cyclists in Brighton and hence to all members of the Forum. Hence they have been taken as general items i.e. to be introduced by either the council officers or myself. Also, because of the pressure of time due to the AGM bit (i.e. Item 2) I felt it was necessary to group similar issues together. The names against each item are therefore, as has always been the case, those people introducing the item and there is no suggestion that they will be the only people talking. I don't therefore see that this will restrict your ability to represent Bricycles' view. As far as I'm aware there has never been any dedicated allocation of time to any individual group in the past so I don't accept that the agenda as it stands is unfair.
I feel that there is sufficient time for discussion of each time given the restriction of 2 hours on the overall length of the meeting. Obviously, if members of the forum are able to conclude any item in less than the suggested time then this gives more time for other items. There are also 10 minutes of "unallocated" time to allow for slippage. However as I will be stepping down as Chair it will be the responsibility of the person that chairs the rest of the meeting to keep the meeting to time. This will of course be true whether they are elected as a Chair for the whole period or are chairing just this meeting.
Finally, Chris's points will need to be taken on by the Forum in the future. We had agreed a draft document setting out terms of reference but this has not been ratified due to the change in council structure. It is on the website (I've checked) under the title "City Cycling Forum draft Oct 07.doc". These will I'm sure need to be amended once the reporting process for the forum is agreed. I will bring copies to the meeting.
As Chris has proposed, this includes both a Chair and Secretary and I would be happy with his suggestion of a Vice Chair. I am not personally keen on the idea of a rotating Chair as I think at the current stage of work on cycling in B&H there needs to be a focus point of a very small number of individuals (no more than 2) who can show a degree of leadership and responsibility and represent the various views of all the bodies attending the forum. This perspective has been at the core of what I have been tried to do while serving as Chair (and de facto Secretary) of the Forum. But of course this is my own view and may not be the view of the meeting on Tuesday. The main thing is that it is discussed properly and that once a decision is made we all work together, including the council, to improve conditions for new and existing cyclists, to promote cycling and to encourage new cyclists.
Mark
Apologies for not having been around a while but I for one would benefit from an update as to how the Cycle Forum operates - who services it - organises meetings, takes minutes, draws up agenda. Some of these functions are the chair's responsibility but my concern is it will all get dumped on one person when it might be better spreading the load, not in terms of rotating chairs but dividing up some of the tasks on a permanent basis with perhaps a vice-chair (or two) (and / or a secretary).
To be fair to Mark Becky, I think that at least three of your items appear on the agenda and I imagine that there should be time to discuss the issues you've raised. I imagine that the people named are just introducing these items but I agree that sufficient time needs to be allocated for proper debate.
Regards,
Chris Todd
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Subject: [brightonhovecycleforum] No allocation of time to Bricycles on the agenda for Jun 3
Hi Mark, Bricycles has not been given any allocation of time on this agenda, nor have any of the items I raised been attributed to me. Could you please revise the amount of time given to others so that it is a bit fairer? I asked for 4 issues to be raised:
1. Rotating chair and minutes of meetings
2. Replacement for Dean Spears, (Principal Transport Planner - Walking and Cycling)
3. Grand Avenue / The Drive – safety issues
4. Monitoring and data
Please let me know how much meeting time has been allocated to me for these points which are of concern to my members.
Thanks,
Becky Reynolds, Bricycles Campaigns and Newsletter - www.bricycles.org.uk
CTC local Right to Ride Representative, Brighton and Hove www.ctc.org.uk/ and www.communigate.co.uk/sussex/ctcbrighton