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Re: [brightonhovecycleforum] Why no improvements for cyclists in North Street?

I would like to propose on the back of Bricycles press release and concern being expressed by a number of cycle bodies that the Forum makes a public statement on this.  The most practical action that can perhaps be done at this stage is to ask for a deferment of the decision pending a cycle audit of the Quadrant (something Mark Strong suggested).  This is such an important link for cyclists and the cycle network that a decision must not be hurried through.  We obviously need to agree such a statement but that should not stop us making one if we are all agreed it is a good idea.  Over to you...
 
Also, I think that this report does raise some concerns for me about the way certain recommendations are coming forward within the Council.  I would like to see the Forum chair, with one or two cycle reps, meet Geoffrey Theobald the cabinet lead on this and set out our priorities for action.  To start a debate on this my three priorities would be:
  • A moratorium on new one-way streets (without a cycle contra-flow) and a phased programme of removing existing one-way streets (to allow 2-way cycling)
  • A significant and comprehensive expansion of cycle parking provision all over the city (and ensuring in new development - still not happening despite the policies in the Local Plan)
  • Filling in the gaps of key parts of the cycle network (such as between Palace Pier and Victoria Gardens), Vogue Gyratory, links to Marina, etc. and sorting out problem areas such as Coombe Terrace (Lewes Road).
Regards,
 
Chris
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: [brightonhovecycleforum] Why no improvements for cyclists in North Street?

Brighton and Hove City Council is set to disregard the results of its own public consultation about plans for the city centre. Originally presented as including ‘improvements for cyclists’, the scheme offered a two-way cycle route at the Clock Tower and the continuation of two-way cycling in Ship Street. These options were supported by a majority of the public, far outstripping the alternatives. But papers due to be discussed at the first Environment Cabinet Member Meeting on Friday include recommendations by council officers to ignore these results. Instead, they are recommending other options, including one which was not even part of the consultation. If accepted, the Clock Tower cycle route will never be put in place, and Ship Street will be made one way.

The danger to pedestrians in North Street is from buses, and that’s why the council got money for improvements. But the proposed changes take no account of the difficulties cyclists face in this area, particularly since the Council closed North Street Quadrant, a decision which we wholeheartedly opposed.

Brighton and Hove is a Cycling Demonstration Town, and as such should be making cycling easier in the city centre, not more difficult. One way streets are never for the benefit of cyclists and will only cause problems for people trying to get from A to B.

Contact Cllr. Geoffrey Theobald, lead Cabinet Member for the Environment Geoffrey.Theobald@brighton-hove.gov.uk and Jenny Rowlands, Director of the Environment jenny.rowlands@brighton-hove.gov.uk to express concern and ask for the popular choices to be instated.

Becky Reynolds

Bricycles Campaigns and Newsletter - www.bricycles.org.uk

CTC local Right to Ride Representative, Brighton and Hove www.ctc.org.uk/ and www.communigate.co.uk/sussex/ctcbrighton


From: brightonhovecycleforum@yahoogroups.co.uk [mailto:brightonhovecycleforum@yahoogroups.co.uk] On Behalf Of Tony Green
Sent: 27 June 2008 10:44
To: brightonhovecycleforum@yahoogroups.co.uk
Subject: [brightonhovecycleforum] FW: Environment Cabinet Member Committee on 4 July : North Street Mixed Priority Route Road Safety Scheme - Stage 2

Dear All

Below is our question to the Environment Cabinet Member Committee, on behalf of Bricycles & CTC, regarding the North Street Mixed Priority Route Road Safety Scheme - Stage 2.

Regards

Tony Green

Bricycles & CTC

http://www.bricycles.org.uk/


From: Tony Green [mailto:greentony@btinternet.com]
Sent: 27 June 2008 10:26
To: Tanya Massey (tanya.massey@brighton-hove.gov.uk)
Cc: Lisa Johnson (lisa.johnson@brighton-hove.gov.uk)
Subject: Environment Cabinet Member Committee on 4 July : North Street Mixed Priority Route Road Safety Scheme - Stage 2
Importance: High

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Dear Tanya, 

Re: North Street Mixed Priority Route Road Safety Scheme - Stage 2 

On behalf of Bricycles and CTC, we wish to ask a question at the Environment Cabinet Member Committee on 4 July:  

 "As a mixed use priority scheme, how do the stated recommendations which are not based on the results of the consultation, improve cyclists’ safety at the Clock Tower or their mobility in Ship Street, in the light of Brighton & Hove's Cycling Demonstration Town status? "

I would be grateful for early confirmation that my question has been accepted. I will attend the meeting.

Please also confirm receipt of this email. [Lisa please confirm in Tanya's absence].

Regards

Dr Tony Green

Bricycles & CTC

www.bricycles.org.uk/ 

www.ctc.org.uk



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Dear All Below is our question to the Environment Cabinet Member Committee, on behalf of Bricycles & CTC, regarding the North Street Mixed Priority Route Road ...
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Brighton and Hove City Council is set to disregard the results of its own public consultation about plans for the city centre. Originally presented as ...
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Dear All This is indeed very disappointing. The reasons given for overriding the outcome of the consultation on The Quadrant are the opinion of the principal...
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I would like to propose on the back of Bricycles press release and concern being expressed by a number of cycle bodies that the Forum makes a public statement...
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Dear All I seem to have been thrown in at the deep end, but, as co-chair of the City Cycling Forum, I heartily support Chris. Time is very short so could all...
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Jul 1, 2008
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My view is that opening the North Street Quadrant poses too much danger of conflict between cyclists and pedestrians. The area through which the cycle lane...
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Hi Adam I don't know why but neither Becky nor myself (and possibly others) received your email sent to the cycle forum on 01 July 2008 21:59. It was only when...
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My views: 1 - Cyclist/pedestrian conflict is not an issue on New Road. Where it is an issue, around the Palace Pier, used by far more pedestrians and a safe ...
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Dear Adam, Can I suggest the wording that: "The Cycle Forum requests the deferment of the decision on North Street Quadrant pending a full cycle audit for the...
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Hi Chris, Adam and all, Bricycles views on these questions is well known and have already been stated formally to the council. The City Cycle Forum as a whole...
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Adam et al I agree with Chris's proposal, except that I would revise it to read "The Cycle Forum requests the deferment of the decisions on North Street ...
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No problem with this - I agree to Mark's revised wording. Chris ... From: Mark Strong To: brightonhovecycleforum@... Sent: Wednesday, July 02,...
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